Messina + Bloods vs Krays

Like I said, that's an outside perspective, and as somebody from old Europe, it is always a bit difficult to lecture the US and wat they should do (ok AMericans do it all the time, one of the reasons they are often perceived as annoying).

Well anyway, the discussion whether the US are screwed or not is not particularly new. That goes back to the Reagan era (if not farther). The problems then: screwed up state deficit, school system, health care. But the zeitgeist was different.
But back to your question, there are many different things that need to get sorted out, and most of them are sacred cows.
One thing is, the bi-party system with two dinosaurs (the elephant and jackass) a system is not really open changes. The Republicans have to bind voters from the far right to the centre. The Democrats from the left to the centre. Elections are won in the center/middle of society and not on its wings. This becomes esp. true, if you just have two parties to choose from.
What you could now watch wonderfully in the preliminaries was the following. The (extreme) right wing make a huge proportion of the active party members of the Republicans. And all the candidates reached out for them to win the ticket to run against Obama (Romney and Huntsman did so less than the rest of the pack, but even Romney became more extreme "conservative"). But in the upcoming election Romney will move back to the center again. To gather votes there.
But in general both parties will need to start a camapaign which represents 50%+x of the US society (well let's better say of the registered voters who actually go to vote). Which is impossible. We have a diverse society, but a non-pluralistic political system, which features two parties. A more pluralistic party (and selection system) would solve a few problems the US politics currently have.
The Tea-party movement has imho hijacked the Republican Party. They block every compromise in congress. Some time ago, some represantatives form the Republicans and Democrats agreed on a compromise on how to fix the budget for the moment (it included putting an end to certain loopholes in the tax system minimal raise in taxes (what the democrats wanted) and cutting expenses (what the republicans wanted)). But the mighty Tea Party movement said, not with us. Bringing the US to the bringe of bankruptcy just not to compromise. That's clearly not, what the founding fathers had with a system of checks and balances in mind. In a more party system, with the tea party as a party of their own, the Republicans (the less extremist of them), would have been able to do what their share of voters wanted to do and could let the tea party and their supporters do what they wanted to do and save face. And the respective voters would be better represented.
The democrats would probably split in 2 or more parties too, if one does not count the green party of america as an offspring already. But I think with more parties it would actually be easier to find compromises than with two big dinosaurs, in which one is currently some sort of civil war about the leader ship is going on.

@ Hyo

Not to burst ya bubble, but you kinda killed Marazzino in that version ;d

@ Due

Awh hell naw bro, nevah again ;(

@ Panna

Gotta give credit where credit is due. Conflict should atleast change that little fampic of theirs, not only because 2.7b is not even a version (it kinda looks silly when you claim you won a version that never existed) but because they are probably talking about 2.71, and they just didn't win that one imho.

Is it official?

fam system will be lower than 36 fams.. gl guys

Who gives a shit about inze, they were up for 1 vers and then they quited. Non importe imo

Saros`away, get your ass on irc :@

Dude, Inze was all but a cheater fam, offc we hade dupes and scripters, but what fam doesnt.. nothing to do about that!
And yeah we rly liked to attack. But that would have never worked without NLS, Marazzino, Selvatica and other bloods!

Inzerillo was 15 peepz with loooooooooooooooots of dupes :) (i was one of them :') )

Yeah, Conflict started out strong like always, but starting out strong has nothing to do with winning a version. I remember the gangbang on conflict, it was one of the biggest wars I have ever been a part of and left the game in a state of total chaos for days. After that, Inzerillo (and to lesser extend their bloods NLS) took over control and Conflict came back later. And I could be wrong here, but the only reason Conflict even ended up in #1 was because Inzerillo was either in war or being suicided at, literally all the damn time

And lets talk in numbers here, Inzerillo had 29 (!) wars against 12 from Conflict in the 4 months 2.71 lasted. I would put Conflict in #3 in total ranking of that version with NLS (Nuevitas, Lucchese & Squad) being #2. But Inzerillo won in a truly amazing way and remain one of the most agressive families this game has ever had (best of all they didn't need help from 15 other families to back them up) and they deserve way more credit for it. If I had one regret in my omerta 'career' it's that I left Inzerillo midway for Lucchese back then ;d

its not hard to go check the wars in which they were that version (you can do it in this site) and since they started first war, had a shitload during the version and ended the version on top of the list, i guess we can qualify them as winners of that version, with others.

Actually 2.71 started with Conflict/Righelli/Illusion/Curse on top, (winners of 2.7), they first took out Letalis/Memento/Notte, then got attacked by pretty much all omerta, conflict died in that war only to return a couple of days later, their side won that war, they reached #1 again quickly, got suicide by tempestuoso and lost alot again, then if i remember correctly they got attacked several times more, making them not war rdy, in that time inzerillo grew stronger (they helped conflict as well), and had more wars, doesnt change the fact that conflict started that version on top, and finished that version on top also, its true inzerillo had more wars, but only cause conflict was attacked a shitload of times, both of them finished the version, both winners, same as illusion , curse , righelli, selvatica etc

hey petarpanairlines o/

WAR !!!

rofl ciaoooooo o/

Fixed it it seems. Please report if anyone still has problems.

Hello Rix! Can you read me?

is it just me or should the messages be in a different order ( last message on top etc.

Meh didnt bother me when not logged , in fact it just helped me get rid of the forever alone feeling and thinking its much more going on this forum :P

Alright we seem to have a bug with your notification bubble which shows the amount of new comments. Apparently the counter is only reset when you are viewing a page while logged in, so viewing a page while you are just a guest keep the counter on its old value.

I'll look at the code tomorrow and hopefully fix it as well.

Hello Reddy!