I'm hearing this story since 2.3, and again in 2.4 and again in 2. .. I've been gone for a couple of years and play very casual now (i.e. lackeys play for me), and I still hear the same broken record. If anything, lackeys brought back quite a bunch of old players who got over the retardness of having to click all day long for 1 month to even have a chance at doing something meaningful in this game. Which was the main reason why they reverted to scripting after their manual career in the first place.

I stopped caring for my account at the moment I no longer play manual, be it legal or illegal scripting. Got shot in a war while you were enjoying a beer in your pub? No prob, fire up lackeys and there we go. Expecting people to play manual time after time should be a crime.

I'm not anonymously, but you are still a twat.

Yesterday I saw a docu on TV that covered why Turks their dick gets cut when they are age 6-7. And today I finally understand this game.

he is right though!

That's not really a valid argument as there was no organisation whatsoever on conflict side for example. There was no killtbot or any outlined target assignment. Just 'hire on (forgot name of the fam), online targets prio'. But then again, members of conflict are quite seasoned with wars and a good amount can see themselves what needs to be done, and communicate with eachother accordingly.

And ajax (and other dutch teams) does exactly the same with Belgian players for example. Just like Belgian teams buy a shitload of niggers each year. That seems to be the food chain during the past 15 years.


dutch teams got during the late 90s massive subsidies to improve their infrastructure, which is basically tax money that gave them an edge over other countries were the system is more strict cq they had different priorities


Not sure how familiar you are with basic economics, but all dutch team have quite a significant debt together, that is including ajax. Any healthy company should have bank debts, they become unhealthy when the debt total exceeds your earnings + your total value, which basically means you are bankrupt. The problem is that many clubs are virtually bankrupt, yet still are able to win prizes, since they live by the grace of some rich dude.



Well not sure how most of you guys are, but I remember the introduction of the champions league back in 92. So much money got involved all in a sudden that missing out on the CL was a drama for the big clubs. So they created artificial ways to be nearly certain of the CL money, like if you are #2, later #3rd and #4th you'd still get a spot.

Belgium for example had always teams finishing high in the European Cups, playing finals and winning them for 2 decades, until the CL was created. Belgium was #4 to #5 at that moment, and due to the crazy amounts of TV money they started to hand out in the bigger countries, it was no longer be able to compete. And the same is true for many other countries. Plenty of the big names back in the day were clubs you never hear again from today. If you had to go play to budapest or bucharest, or in belgrade, ... then you'd play teams that would regularly win a european cup.

My point being: the champions league destroyed the fair spread there once was in Europe, by no longer requiring that you had to be the champion of your country. That is the true reason why real madrid can do what they do nowadays. Because they are certain they 're in the CL pretty much every year, and due to that they have a bigger exposure, etc ... it's basically a snowball effect.

The only real way to solve it is to go back to the old formula: random draw with direct elimination so the big teams can no longer take the CL money for granted.

So does anyone have any juicy stories about who was behind that so called ddos attack lately? It seems the topic has gone quite, so figured it 'd be cool to bring it up again.

why not? are u ashamed of your mom? what did she do to you? you sick fuck

I referred to your 'why do you keep talking to yourself', after 3 'anonymous' posters replying and quoting eachother.

Totally agreed. Was just having a big fat joint, and I got a 15m laugh kick when I saw that comment!

First bullets were fired at
04/05 20:32:24 Cakalaz Bruglione Liberta
last death before site went down is
04/05 20:46:04 Biloxih Bruglione Conflict
first kill after downtime
04/05 21:56:56
Freak Bruglione Blacksea

They had 14 minutes for a first wave. I dunno, but the major damage should be done within the first few minutes of an attack. I don't really see why you would wait longer than 14 minutes to shoot as an attacker.

The downtime prevented the defenders from countering immediately (for those who didn't have dets running already). So the downtime for sure postponed the counter. But it screwed over the attackers their 2nd wave as well. Meanwhile defenders could get more people online, but some went off as well due to the downtime.

1. Using the downtime as an excuse for a poor first wave is retarded. There were 14 minutes for a 1st wave. A crappy first wave happens due to bad organisation, not due to downtime.
2. Downtime prevented a counter for the unprepared fams.
3. Downtime screwed up the 2nd wave for the attackers big time.

Yeah both sides got fucked by the downtime, and it doesn't make much sense whatsoever to say that one suffered more from it over he other.

I don't think the outcome of this war would've been much different if there would've been no downtime.

In my opinion there is very little one can say about all this. it remains pure speculation. Someone without any technical knowledge can buy a program online that can launch a ddos attack, costing only a few 100 dollars. One can assign a % of the botnet capacity to use, in order to make it much harder to stop the attack. Using such a tool ain't harder than playing a DVD on your computer. There is of course always the possibility that someone attacked who knew what he was doing. While in theory it might be easier to stop an attack from a single 'computer', I'd imagine that such a guy would also have the knowledge to make the attack last longer.

All depend on the goals (apparently there was another version that had a war last night as well, might be related to that), the capacity the attacker had and the way he carried out such an attack (since there are several ways to do it).

I dunno what reason omerta would have to lie about being ddos'd, nor do I see what a certain player would gain by ddosing omerta. Again it's pure speculation and it all doesn't make much sense to me.


That could be very well true, but it might very well be not.

This started somewhere, and it's a recurring thing. The very first version of omerta didn't start right away with pacts, sides and families on the day of launch. It's something that grew organically throughout the years, and will keep doing so. Players talk after a war, end up in the same war channel cause of a mutual blood, get closer, ... and before you know there is an inner circle of bloods who's hands are tied. There was a very similar situation in 2.3 and 2.4 where vinci had a serious pact going. It's totally up to the opposing sides to try and break that, not only with shooting but also with role playing. Something - i can be wrong - that has disappeared from the game: forcing an opponent into the corner where you want them, by trash talking, faking stuff, talk them into something they don't want ... etc.

There are so many ways why a webserver/app can crash (log partition that is full to name a stupid one over simply a bad script, etc ) ... and that all can lead to data corruption. So the troubleshooting, getting the data safe and get it back on track takes a bit of time. Even a ddos attack can come in different forms depending on the creativity of the attacker. Point being: it's pure speculation. I saw how that rumour started and 5 minutes later it was all over irc. Or do you really think that in case a guy actually ddos'd the servers that he told his friends/fam that he did that, and that that's how the rumor started? The other scenario is that teckna said it.

Either way it's just plain stupid to assume it was a ddos attack (unless you have other info), and it's even more stupid to assign such an attack to the defending or attacking side. Cause it doesn't make sense if you think 30 seconds. That's what my whole point was about

Compare it to a soccer game. Usually fans of both sides would leave x amount of time in advance, make their wway to the stadium and go to their respective seats. The way the stadium infrastructure is designed makes this whole process easy to handle.

Now imagine some joker makes a facebook post and asks all rivalling fans from other teams to go to that game as well, not to fight but just to create a chaos. So the traffic on the highway would get jammed, the queue to enter the stadium would be x10, and the stewards would be in trouble to weed out the people without a ticket from the genuine ticket holders. Complete chaos and the game would have to be postponed or have to start without most of the fans.

That's basically what happens during a ddos attack. Some joker obtains a botnet (thats a network of hacked / infected computers, typically through a virus or trojan) that he can buy for a very limited amount of money from russians, and then he starts sending page requests to a website / ip address. Instead of the usual traffic, the website gets flooded by a multitude of requests until the point where it can no longer handle it and just concedes. See it as 100k people logging in to omerta instead of 2k ones, and they all start to click all pages like mad men.

The thing is that most decent datacenters are more or less well equipped to deal with those every day ddos attacks. Obviously the scale of the attack (i.e. the amount of infected computers you can abuse to spam a website) can be that huge that it will take out most sites anyhow. But then again you can't ask omerta to have the same means as the nasa.

I called you out on what you write/say, not on who you are. If you want to take it personal, go ahead. But it's not my problem. But you added more nonsense to already existing crap; whereas you could have easily verified before questioning my simple arguments.

So you just prove my point that you are full of shit.

Yes you are wrong and full of shit. All it takes is check all deaths log, go back 10 pages to see where the timeline gets interrupted and you wouldn't spread this false info. People just yell something even while they are factually incorrect, and then the masses adopts that as the truth. It's not something that only happens in omerta, it happens everywhere. Anyways, I did it for you: and as you can see right when the servers went back up (21:56:56), the first 15 minutes have plenty of defenders dying (vinci, tremps, liberta), at least enough to classify your statement as nonsense.

Usturakemal Chief Yigidos 04/05 22:12:53
Fairydust Bruglione Conflict 04/05 22:12:48
Death Bruglione Gelibolu 04/05 22:12:47
Mechanic Bruglione Vincitori Capo 04/05 22:12:31
Blue Bruglione Marazzino 04/05 22:12:13
Bhamkeyx Bruglione Vincitori 04/05 22:12:11
Anaemic Soldier Vincitori 04/05 22:12:10
Paquito Pickpocket 04/05 22:12:07
Akosman Bruglione Yigidos 04/05 22:12:01
Goldfish Bruglione Marazzino 04/05 22:11:53
(BF) Novak Bruglione Blacksea 04/05 22:11:49
(BF) Rhan Bruglione Armada 04/05 22:11:49
(BF) Sisy Bruglione Liberta Consig 04/05 22:11:45
(BF) Hotandspicy Bruglione Argonauts 04/05 22:11:45
Skybert Bruglione Revelations 04/05 22:11:41
Prison Bruglione Tremps PB LV Meadows 04/05 22:11:17
Thesaboteur Bruglione Vincitori 04/05 22:11:12
(BF) Sisy Bruglione Liberta Consig 04/05 22:11:45
(BF) Hotandspicy Bruglione Argonauts 04/05 22:11:45
Skybert Bruglione Revelations 04/05 22:11:41
Prison Bruglione Tremps PB LV Meadows 04/05 22:11:17
Thesaboteur Bruglione Vincitori 04/05 22:11:12
Firelord Bruglione Tremps 04/05 22:11:08
Fire Bruglione Marazzino 04/05 22:11:00
Freak Bruglione Blacksea 04/05 21:56:56
Biloxih Bruglione Conflict 04/05 20:46:04

If it was a DDOS attack, then why didn't it got repeated, as in why was there no continuation? Like techna made his servers ddos proof within an hour timeframe or something. If the servers are hosted in a somewhat decent datacenter there are already means in place to fight ddos attacks, let alone that omerta could do anything themselves. If someone had a botnet powerful enough to take down the omerta servers, why would he/she stop doing it then?

I've seen the opposite as well. Shot myself as chief at a brug don and got owned in BF (which makes sense). Saw other chiefs not killing brugs and getting owned in BF as well. It's a good thing that you can take the risk to shoot full rather than having to outnumber the opponent 3v1. Account strength and the SH/travel game kick in again. So far I like it, but we'll have to see how it pans out once there are a few 100% brugs and GF's.

So far the KA looks pretty decent to me from what I've seen.