I love when my day starts with a laugh, thank you :D

You are right, we haven't been hit by all Omerta cuz that's literally impossible (I hoped you'll realize that by now). We got shot by 20+ families (when there was around 50 families up) from whom for sure all 20+ weren't our enemies, as we did favours to some of families who attacked us. From main 7 families who attacked us 4 asked bloods from us, so it's pretty stupid to say only our enemies attacked.

I don't think you know enough to bring subject of our war last version, and as much as I love repeating facts, I find it pointless to do more. So just skip whole subject. I don't think we have much choice but to wait and see what's gonna happen, cuz all this is just random "I bet that will happen" and "You pussies"...

If you have questions feel free to pm me on irc, I usually hang on #Vincitori, you'll rarely find me on #Hangover.

1st of all I am glad we got your attention mr. Anonymous.
Pact? Hardly, we (as Vinci and families we choose to blood) just do what bloods are actually supposed to do, and that's stand and fight for each other, without changing alliances or similar good deeds.
Cowards? Fine, I have no problem being called coward. Last version actually my own idiotic thought that you can play with 5 bloods, while rest bloods 8 to 10 got us killed. I try to learn from my mistakes so I don't repeat them.
Afraid of being hit by rest of omerta? Wait I am having deja vu... Isn't this exactly what happened last version? Did we look afraid then?
Atrocita as sister? Doubt it will happen for sister, but you never know what will happen if they ask for bloods ;)

Then again I could be mistaken ofc...

For a bullet factory? Isn't it obvious...

I said enough for anyone who knows this game, I wont tell you anything which Levi tops don't know either...

We loaned Levi succ last version when some of their friends fucked them, later they killed us. It's a game, so it happens. Does that mean we play now just to kill Leviticus? Don't be ridiculous...
In this game everyone who isn't on your bloods list can be your threat, there for everyone is potential target, as we don't make no shooting deals, but we don't break our word either. We start neutral with every family and we make our moves for what's best for our family.

Families aren't even up, you guys tell what wars will happen. If Vinci and Conf didn't change long history of killing each other you would already be waiting for that war, now you need some other war so you feel safer thinking you know what's gonna happen. If you worry for Levi whoever you may be (Levi member, top, someone 3rd), do you want me to deny killing Levi? Why would I? As long as we don't see them as direct threat, we have no reason to kill them.

There I hope I helped you sleep safe at night.

Dear mr. Anonymous, I'll be glad to inform you Vinci wont fight wars cause of of past versions, cause only those who wish to get nailed do that. We haven't even started and you're already making rumors... That's kind of sad isn't it?

PS. Why should we always be in 1st war of the version? Don't you think it's time for someone else to step up this time?

PS2. Looking forward to logs o>

PS3. You're putting Marazzino in 2 starting wars according to you. Doesn't that look unreal enough?

I wrote you in text why I think there's not many chances that these families work together, simply they have very little in common. Though you do seem like very well informed person, especially cause you know who we blooded before us, and ofc knowing who'll we shoot is also absolutely great.

Maybe you can gimme a pm on irc cause I sure could use your vision on game. Cheers

Don't think you play game for long time or you have bad memory, or you just took really bad examples... There's always choice, but what you named as example is complete nonsense.
Conflict, Leviticus and Vincitori aren't alliance families so I doubt you'll see them make alliance with anyone. Then families you named have very little in common, there for chances of them working together aren't highest, doesn't have to mean they'll dig each others eyes out on 1st chance.

Then if you're trying to mark Conflict, Leviticus and Vincitori as "anti turk" families that's even more wrong. Each one of these families worked with families who's tops were Turks and they worked really successful (Conflict - Ilteber, Leviticus - Turkuz, Vincitori - Liberta).

Alliances aren't only made to be strong and relevant, after 2.5 alliances are made only when families are scared from other fams and don't know what to do, so they make alliance to look bigger and there for harder to take down. This usually has counter effect than desired cause ppl like shooting alliances.

Also why people bashed Turkish families here it's probably cause of stereotypes. It's most common that Turkish families make alliance and dozen sister families, and that is pretty annoying for any normal player. Also I saw smth typical for Turkish and that's "As one" thing, now some leaders of big turkish families tried explaining me this but tbh it sounds just really damn complicated.
But in the end will family be good or bad has least to do with players origin. You had tons of examples of really good Turkish families in past (Notte, Favians, Kerberos). These families weren't fucking game up with 10 sister fams and 3 alliances, these families really lifted game to the new level in past and made versions more interesting. And with majority of players atm being from Turkey, their families have most of influence how will game go. Will they barricade themselves with 10 bloods and 5 sisters or they'll try to play open game. Only sad thing is lately there was less and less good new "Turkish" families, tbh only ones who can come to my mind are Venture.

And in the end, everyone should just see difference between normal players and noobs (or whatever is right word), cause others ones are making huge alliances, calling everyone racists and working only with people from same nation/country.

But ofc this is just my 2 cents :p

You're right MaFia...
How foolish I was to question TuRkuZ about anything you guys do, I should've known better that you do everything planed and with purpose. Your playing strategy, alliance building and inner family politics are light years a head of what can simple mind like mine can understand. I hope in future you will show me same devotion like you did this version and get another 20 families to shoot me with over such a short period as one month is! It really shows how great and capable leader you are, even if you showed me how merciful you really are when you offered me to join forces and work together during your "blitzkrieg" I knew I wasn't worthy and I have declined politely. I admire you MaFia really and I do hope one day my communication and leadership skills will be match to yours!

My sincere apology, it wont happen again MaFia!

Did you give admins your cheating ingames before or after you made all that drama on your fam page about how admins hate TuRkuZ, akill your innocent dupers and how you wont play anymore?

Thanks to Rix for this site I could follow what's going on without being on irc. Tbh it would be awesome if you would just write me where I was wrong in my comments and write reasons why then just saying that I don't know what have been here last 8 months :p

I disagree
War was decided when DIG Venture Xzone etc decided to shoot Talamasca/Cartel and Vincitori decided to jump in. At that point war was lost for Vincitori. If Vinci just closed eyes and looked Tala/Cartel died war could've go both ways even if Vaffa Gravano and Vincitori were outnumbered and losing bloods and friendly fams on daily bases. After 1st initial hit war was really hard to say which way will go. I actually checked some comments from that war on this site, some n00bs like PPAL was crying how families need to hit Conflict and Vincitori immidately or they'll kill them very soon, so by that I guess some people actually thought Vinci's side is winning war.

BoHeM mate you lost all your credibility calling Carneglia war best of best of all omerta, I wont take your opinion about game events serious anymore.

I can't help but wonder one thing tbh.

1st of all I wasn't around for Carneglia war, I didn't see it happen, I've just read about it on OB News when you guys started mentioning it.
From what I saw about that war is that war was decided even before started, Carneglia etc really stood minimal chances from things I see on OB News. That leads me to think this war was really well planed and executed. From what I see whole Carneglia side in that war got really owned, even if attackers suffered some damage but comparing to the victims it was minimal. So there for I would say that war seems pretty safe and decided much more before it started, even if numbers don't show that.

Now on other hand End of Cold War was big version opener, it was unpredictable and for me at least really top point of whole 3.2.
Simply in End of Cold war families weren't infested with lackeys, you knew each brug who died was either manually ranked or scripted so there were no easy targets, it involved all best known families Omerta has to offer, it also involved bunch of smaller families who came in war later for one side or another. And it was really hard to see which way will war go after initial 1st 3-4 days. You saw some epic kills and epic stands, you some real tactics made and change during war. And there were no barging during war, no selling outs. It was one of those wars which really makes you play and like this game...

With this I just wanna ask:
On one side you have war in which more brugs(lackeys) died more families died, but war which also seems quite easy and already decided before starting.
On other side you have drama packed thriller war, which goes from great to shitty in about 10-15 minutes (for both sides) war which you really need to show some balls of steel to make and enter (before it's decided). War which is hard to pick "right side" cuz you don't know who'll win.

And you guys pick already decided war just cause it was easier to laugh during it?

For me there's no question about this, I like shooting, but there's no bigger war pleasure than to watch or take part in wars which are hard to see it's outcome, especially when the war offers most known families on omerta slamming into each other...

Tbh I would like to know why Turkuz too, same as why Conflict for most disappointing.
It's pointless to write Positive Surprise Turkuz and then not explain why :p

So you're telling me Brando and his buddies made following?
Bafra
Ferugia
Calogero
Xxzone
Xxlzone
Xcalogero
Xxxzone

then they even put those nice :^ ________ x3 (insert family name here) on your fam pages?

Notice when you started repeating yourself in fam names? That's where you should've stopped.

Seriously what it takes for you guys to take responsibility for some things you did? You point to admins and say they made us do it...

Don't worry I'm not judging you I'm just amazed how stupid you think other players are, cause it insults everyone with IQ higher than 70 to say "You should respect". Respect what? That you know how to set up a new family? Great job mate!

You were the ones of most responsible for this situation and 120+ families at 1st place, with your 10 sis fams + 5-8 bloods + :^ kisses on fam page for 3-4 families. People should thank you for cleaning your own mess?

Imo even voting for winner shows this version was pretty much joke... Yes Ex-Memento group (AsFu - Samagono - Xzone - Sindikat) closed version but imo they aren't winners, nor any other family did anything to stand out as winner.
Truth is I didn't follow game much after April, but what I saw till then promised version completely different from what it turned out to be.
Imo counting who lost more accounts is completely pointless as well, and I'm sorry to say this article even with good intentions has no real purpose but to start bashing and flaming on other families...

Instead of following this pattern I'll try to give my vision of version even if again I say I didn't follow big part of it. This is what I'll write is my opinion, so there for I'm sure a lot will disagree...

Imo this version started out really promising, cold war, no obvious 1st war it was a lot of tension, it was waiting for a big bang to shake up everything. Only thing that really sucked in the start was that in all "mind play" families looked more how to "blood" to avoid war which created massive blood lists.... Almost everything what happened later in version just showed that it matters a lot will version be good or bad from families "in control"

Family with best performance: Leviticus
I was doubting between DIG and Leviticus, but decided for Levi cause Levi was single family and had part in almost every important shoot out (which I know for). Leviticus really did have great round for themselves, imo they made many good moves after they decided which path they gonna walk on. If anyone was close to winning this round it was Leviticus

The Best War: 17-04 End of Cold War
I can really say that I think 1st big war this version was one of best I saw for long long time. I think KA put defending families in advantage, but overall war was really huge, and it involved almost all big families. War itself lasted over a month, with breaks and it brought something new to Omerta. I must give kudos to families who decided to attack, it takes some guts to make such a move, and those who did it (Violenza, Leviticus, Gambino, Righelli, Tempestuoso, Bruinsma) showed guts. I also must say Vaffanculo, Gravano and Vincitori did remarkable job of being pain in the ass of families who wanted them down at that time. And this feud involved almost every family in game in war sooner or later during that 1 month which lasted.

Positive Surprise: Gambino
It surprised me determination and way of handling things Gambino showed on start of version, I saw in them family with huge potential to become one of dominant and leading families in future, however I didn't follow whole version so don't know did they keep up as how they started.

Negative Surprise: Righelli
With name and reputation Righelli has, they didn't reach potential they have imo. Righelli started out great, 1st war even if they died it seemed they have clear goal what they want. But soon after that Righelli just blended into whole "dead sea" version...

Most disappointing family: Marazzino
Without question Marazzino for me, these guys keep showing they can always do worse than before on tactical field every new version. Marazzino had countless times a chance to get rid of their threats and take control over version, but they always failed to act and do so. Marazzino is proof that some people just don't learn from their mistakes.

Best Newcomers: Presidental
Tbh I don't know much about these guys, but I saw people mention them a lot and talk about how many wars they had etc. For a brand new family I think they managed to make a name and reputation now hard part is keeping it.

The Undying: Vincitori
Well here I just want to say imo Vincitori did something which is really old school. Damaged war after war, shooting and getting shot almost all the time for about a month, Vincitori managed to stay up and shoot when no one expected them to. From victim to attacker and vice versa. Imo Vincitori did something which was long forgotten on Omerta, and that's fighting for every blood no matter how many brugs or bullets you have. For about a month Vincitori fought against 20+ families. Vincitori didn't return as many families did, but imo what Vinci did for that 1 month was imo just great show for everyone expect for the fams who tried to kill them.

Almost impossible to kill: Schopenhauer
Yes this guy, as much as annoying it was for me, he really was making fool out of everyone who tried to kill him (until Corva did it actually). With combination of a bit luck and good organization he was surviving wars and avoiding shots with no problem for quite a while.

Most ridiculous moment: AsFu alliance
Moment when they started popping new families like mushrooms after rain, it was just what the fuck? Now many people will say, it's tactic they used it, blame admins. Ok fair enough, but just cause something is available doesn't mean it should be used. I mean it's just shameful to see families such as Liggio or Memento as 1 man family part of some huge alliance. I mean moment when you can't come up with creative new name for family it means you have enough sister families... (For the record spelling As-Pa-Va and Fu-Si-On is not creative)

There are probably many more categories possible and many many more families who did leave a mark on 3.2 one way or another, just my post is already long enough and I'm bored of writing more...
So there's my 2 cents :p

Someone write this as Turkuz top statement (if this guy is real Turkuz top), it's fucking epic!

Wait, someone actually said this as reason for not participating in war? :')