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02-11 Gambino under attack
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15:50:38 - 03-11
Anonymous at 15:34:54 on 03/11:
Johnny if u play this game for years, 1 word for you : get a life.
new ppl comes, old players goes, that is the way it is.

more families adv. :
- more spots benefits (in some cases, not Asfu case)
- being low in stats list, so you don't draw attention
- objects are distributed, this one also draws less attention

why did Gambino opened new fam Selvaggio. because they were raising high, and didn't wont to be top 5. so they opened new fam and famworth decreased.

Asfu did similar thing at the beginning, they didn't draw attention for long time.

So when Gambino does the same shit, its great Gambino; when Asfu same this shit, blame Asfu and new game style.

I hope Asfu brings down Traffi so that version is over and you can stfu

Ok skipping the personal part, it's pointless to argue.

Raising high on statistics and drawing attention is utterly ridiculous point. Anyone with a bit of experience looks at family stats 1st, then at ingame statistics.
Same as distributing objects, and more capo spot profits, especially with this HQ system. I wont explain why if you can't see yourself, feel free to pm me on irc.

I didn't say it's good cause Gambino did it and bad cause AsFu did it, I can't care less who did it. I'm not fan of Gambino at all. I'm not blaming AsFu either, all I said was don't blame admins for everything that players do, is that so damn hard to understand?
02-11 Gambino under attack
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15:39:13 - 03-11
Anonymous at 15:20:16 on 03/11:
admin licker?? who we have to blame? the fams who has lots of hq to use more fire power??

ofcrs we can call them huger pussy etc.. omerta players always baming the fams who r at top..

some ones in this verison.. saa trafi xzone asfu ili carneg kuro liberta etc.. nearly all of fams who has nice stand blamed with huger pussy just joined safed war.. as i see the fams who called huger have most kills and wars..

It doesn't matter who's on top, it matters how you got on top. It matters what have you done to get there. I'm not pointing finger at anyone, nor players or admins. Fact is if admins made something possible, doesn't mean it has to be used.
HQ was cheap with purpose, fact is players found way to exploit cheap HQ's. Admins didn't make it needed to have 10+ sister families, players wanted that. Just cause you can do something, doesn't mean you will do it.

I'm not admin licker, in fact everyone who knows me, knows how much I dislike admins, but stop putting all the blame on them.

And in the end, those families who you mentioned, hell I don't blame them for joining safe wars all the way through. Reason why I'm blaming them for is that no one of them is showing any single ambition to actually play their game.
Simple example AsFu and Trafficante shot Venture's bloods few weeks ago, and now they're shooting together. All threats are dead, there's no real threat left or anything, and yet these families continue to act like scared bunch. Worrying will something they do piss other ones off. Make a stand, if someone shoots your bloods act on it, don't forget it or let it go, or else you don't value your bloods at all. Think less about pure survival, and more about what you are actually doing.

Would be funny to see actually, can some of top families even name all of their bloods (dead and alive ones) without looking at fame page, and can they name families who shot their bloods...
02-11 Gambino under attack
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15:17:00 - 03-11
BORING at 15:02:57 on 03/11:
johnny boy on 2.4 affinitas was 50+ families and there were 130+ family ingame

kthxbai

And it's ironic that old Affinitas guy talks this way. Seeing Vinci as usually most often "Affi" referred families, you could see by now that only thing left from "Affinitas' Vinci" and current one is name only. Drastic change in style and game play showed things can change, and it's only matter of players do they want the change. If you want the change, start on yourself and your family, then blame Admins. And don't go back in past like "you did that and that in 2.x", it's important what you're doing now.
Also 2.4 had at least 2 times more active players than 3.2, with really fast ranking speed and constant action. Families kept dying and coming up, so it's not weird there were so many families in 2.4.
And 1 big difference from 2.4 and 3.2 is that in 2.4 you had shitload of wars, almost nonstop. Every day almost families would shoot and die, you had over 10 alliances in game almost all the time, some weaker some stronger, but families kept shooting and tried going for the win one way or another. And yes I do think 2.4 was bad version, probably the worst after 3.2, but look at 2.4 as cheap action flick who we all had guilty pleasure of playing.
02-11 Gambino under attack
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15:03:39 - 03-11
Anonymous at 14:45:13 on 03/11:
You're wrong, is all admins fault, becouse they only think about money!

Look at lackeys
Look how the game is locked becouse most of it runs in the base of DC's

Players did not choose this, they playing this way becouse admins make the game stay like this!!!

So I would blame on admins, if they would put omerta like old days I bet what we are seeying in this late versions would not happen!!!!

There's no Omerta like old days, cause there are no players or families like old days. It's not about game change.

You say lackeys ruined it, lackey is legal script. If you're playing game long enough, you should know what problem were scripts from 2.7. Some "players" were making serious money from it, why would Brando let anyone make money from his game. Only thing you can blame him for is that he didn't fight scripts effectively, maybe cuz it was hard, maybe cuz he didn't have enough people capable of doing it, however he did make "scripts" available for everyone, even for those who don't want to spend real money on game.
It's not best solution, far from it. However with stopping scripting problem maybe now he could pay attention on some other real problems, like game development.

And again admins could even make you famous 2.1 version, but it wouldn't be different much than what you see now. Fact is this game suffered so many good players loss over time. Old families just vanished, and instead of them 3-4 new small families popped up. Families who change alliances or "as 1" on monthly base. Can you imagine in old days some family swapping alliance so easy, and not just once but few times. That's not admins fault.

Players didn't choose this, players created this. Families were able to gain everything, just by sitting and doing nothing, shooting 4-5 brugs in huge wars calling themselves ninjas and say others don't need to know we shot. If you shot anything worth mentioning, people would've know you shot. If you shoot 3-4 brugs in war of 80 brug+ it's joke to even say you participated...
Tbh admins should just bring "death by aging" in this game.

Players should stop blaming admins for everything that's not good in this game, and look at themselves, what have you done to change way game is now? What have you done to not be just one of other 120 families who are up (except making sister fams, in that case you are not just one but more like 5-6).
02-11 Gambino under attack
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14:41:15 - 03-11
It's stupid to blame admins for 15-16 families alliances. It's stupid to blame admins cause some family made 14 fams to have 14 CD's. It's players mentality to blame.
Look back in past, in versions 2.1-2.4 you didn't even need capo money to promote to Godfather, you just needed 100% rp, and people still didn't make 1 account family just in war purpose. Ofc you had big alliances there, ofc you had shitload of families, but all those families had real top and members.

I am 1st of all not fan of Brando and his crew, I think there's so many things wrong with this game, but admins aren't ruining it, players are. Admins aren't doing much to stop players from ruining game, that's only thing you can blame admins for. Mass overpowering, 120+ families, current game situation it's all product of, as someone said before, "new style".

It's weird to see Gambino going down like this, they could've known this is coming after Tempe died, I expected them to act 1st. Never the less Gambino had nice round and imo it's one of few families who actually had plaid quite good, they took some risks and had some nice wars.
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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23:54:18 - 01-11
Ballantines at 23:43:46 on 01/11:
Johnny at 23:25:50 on 01/11:
Ballantines at 23:17:36 on 01/11:
Johnny at 23:12:12 on 01/11:
Ballantines at 23:10:22 on 01/11:
Johnny at 23:02:16 on 01/11:
Ballantines at 22:23:06 on 01/11:
And for the "selling our bloods out". Well we never sold out our bloods, and we jumped in in every war where our bloods were being shot.

Don't know did you sell bloods out, not any of my business either. Just it's not true what you wrote here about Levi jumping in every war where your bloods would get shot.

Well then Johnny tell me pls where didnt we jump in?? Besides the war where one of our bloods was shooting another... And that was the Ilimatada <-> Righelli war.

Correptio is currently beeing gunned down by Marazzino/Bleach, Camorra/666ers, Krays and Andalusia.

Correptio was your blood at that time.

And if you look one day before the Coreptio war....we were in a war against Vinci&Gravano and that war against you guys praticly made us empty...so we were in no position to jump in Coreptio.

Well then it's not "We jumped every time" now is it? :p
And if I'm not mistaken Correptio war started much earlier before you shot anyone... You shot 2 hours after Correptio was attacked, so plenty time to help your blood in need, not like Turkuz, Spamfam, Fusion and Catacomb weren't enough for 5-6 accounts...

You don't need to justify, I know why you didn't shoot for Correptio, I'm not moron. I just can't help laughing at lies. If you want to say you jumped for every blood then actually do that, if you don't jump for one, stop story. You made right move choosing to not help Correptio imo, everyone knows that. Just it's a fact you didn't jump for every blood.

If you actually did I would applaud you now, not tell you it's not true :p

Okey im sorry i said "every" time Johnny please forgive me, we were in quite a few wars this version so i forgot. That was the war we didnt jump in. But still if we could we would jump in.

Also i see that you know whats going on inside levi, and what we done in wars this version more than me.. So let me applaud you then :) :=

There's nothing to forgive. I actually remember stuff only that I was around to see, even if it's from few years ago. It's not about Levi, it's about almost every family I was in touch with one way or another.

Thanks for applause, didn't want minor detail spoil your good story (even though dark wont read it, he'll just post more crap as usual).
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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23:25:50 - 01-11
Ballantines at 23:17:36 on 01/11:
Johnny at 23:12:12 on 01/11:
Ballantines at 23:10:22 on 01/11:
Johnny at 23:02:16 on 01/11:
Ballantines at 22:23:06 on 01/11:
And for the "selling our bloods out". Well we never sold out our bloods, and we jumped in in every war where our bloods were being shot.

Don't know did you sell bloods out, not any of my business either. Just it's not true what you wrote here about Levi jumping in every war where your bloods would get shot.

Well then Johnny tell me pls where didnt we jump in?? Besides the war where one of our bloods was shooting another... And that was the Ilimatada <-> Righelli war.

Correptio is currently beeing gunned down by Marazzino/Bleach, Camorra/666ers, Krays and Andalusia.

Correptio was your blood at that time.

And if you look one day before the Coreptio war....we were in a war against Vinci&Gravano and that war against you guys praticly made us empty...so we were in no position to jump in Coreptio.

Well then it's not "We jumped every time" now is it? :p
And if I'm not mistaken Correptio war started much earlier before you shot anyone... You shot 2 hours after Correptio was attacked, so plenty time to help your blood in need, not like Turkuz, Spamfam, Fusion and Catacomb weren't enough for 5-6 accounts...

You don't need to justify, I know why you didn't shoot for Correptio, I'm not moron. I just can't help laughing at lies. If you want to say you jumped for every blood then actually do that, if you don't jump for one, stop story. You made right move choosing to not help Correptio imo, everyone knows that. Just it's a fact you didn't jump for every blood.

If you actually did I would applaud you now, not tell you it's not true :p
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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23:12:12 - 01-11
Ballantines at 23:10:22 on 01/11:
Johnny at 23:02:16 on 01/11:
Ballantines at 22:23:06 on 01/11:
And for the "selling our bloods out". Well we never sold out our bloods, and we jumped in in every war where our bloods were being shot.

Don't know did you sell bloods out, not any of my business either. Just it's not true what you wrote here about Levi jumping in every war where your bloods would get shot.

Well then Johnny tell me pls where didnt we jump in?? Besides the war where one of our bloods was shooting another... And that was the Ilimatada <-> Righelli war.

Correptio is currently beeing gunned down by Marazzino/Bleach, Camorra/666ers, Krays and Andalusia.

Correptio was your blood at that time.
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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23:02:16 - 01-11
Ballantines at 22:23:06 on 01/11:
And for the "selling our bloods out". Well we never sold out our bloods, and we jumped in in every war where our bloods were being shot.

Don't know did you sell bloods out, not any of my business either. Just it's not true what you wrote here about Levi jumping in every war where your bloods would get shot.
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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00:13:02 - 01-11
Paris at 21:18:26 on 31/10:
ok... sorry for wrong typing... my fault
As i said, i'm getting bored reading all those comments... so, i found ur comments, but not his...
I'm not in asfu... I dont even respecting them anymore... I was sympathizer of as-pa-va before asfu alliance... when there was as, pa and va... those 3 fams was great, but i never joined them, and probably won't, too...
I know that u didnt write anything about my fam (DIG or my first one Camorra (precisely, Kerberos), but dont write there about "bravery", "good things" for those "Samurais" from Serbia... I'm, Montenegrin (nemam precih :D) but, jebi ga, thats how the things going on and we cant change it...

I didn't write a good thing for Samurai's, I wrote it's a good thing for game in general. You should really read more carefully before you flame on.
I can't care less about Trotters or Samurai or whoever, cause I have Serbian flag doesn't mean I play with Kurosawa nor that I like them or even know them. I played this game long enough to be able to see good sides and bad sides of each thing.

Only remark I made was on Hugo's top statement, which even his blood Dellamorte wrote. I didn't praise Trotters or AsFu or any 3rd side. I never was or will be in Marazzino or Kurosawa families, there for it's really pointless to associate me with them. Though if you find my comments annoying just skip them, I'm sure you wont be only one who is doing that.

PS. I love you too Lv
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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18:36:09 - 31-10
Paris at 17:44:47 on 31/10:
for Trza, Jonny, Jebeno(really deserve that nick) and other big-mouth company

Look guys.. people are really getting tired of reading ur comments... but really... as no1, they are fake, patetic, unknow, weave, as no2, they are provocations, but totaly without respect of anyone... u guys think that kurosawa is in the middle of this game, and other 120+ fams are rotating over them... Some of u3 said that Trotters are not piece of shit, bla bla bla... Yes, they are piece of shit, Kuro is a piece of shit, and they deserve to be in the place where are they now (to be in offside of whole this game). U think ur kind of a samurai... LMFAO... i said what you are, so not gonna explain that cz im tired of explication!
Please, please, stfu, play with kuro, use ur bloods as much as u can, fake your blood as long as u can, banter to them as long as they notice it, and leave us, cz we deserve it!
Tnx, have fun o/

1st of all I couldn't care less about Kurosawa - Marazzinno - Trotters triangle, don't even see how you managed to place me there.
2nd I didn't say shit about your family (whichever it is), but assuming you are AsFu I can't help but wonder why you didn't put Dellamorte in same group as he wrote exactly same thing as me.

And it's Johnny not Jonny, if you gonna mention me at least write my nick right.
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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22:10:14 - 30-10
hugo at 22:00:30 on 30/10:
Johnny at 21:51:06 on 30/10:
Hugo Top Statement
Trotters were our old friends which we played many versions, and we never thought to fire them... but seems Cynakur doesn't think the same, whatever he choose his side and we are at our side. Kurosawa and Marazzino noobs shows him the wrong way, rip all who died ..

I can't help but see so many wrong things in this statement... Most things that I consider that are ruining this game more and more each version are in this top statement.

AsFu alliance shot down bloods of Trotters last night, there should every old peace and "friendship" end. I'm not saying you should pick out each others eyes and yell sob and never be friends again, but you can't expect to keep "peace" by going to war. It shows you either have very little respect for Trotters and not taking them seriously, or you're just arrogant enough to think no one will shoot you back, and you can do whatever you want.
If you are such great old friends blood each other, play together, don't talk here about who's choosing who's side and shit like that. Each action should get reaction. You overrun Trotters like they're joke, be happy with it.
And I actually hope there will be more actions. like the one tonight, in future versions (this one is already sad enough), that even close friends will shoot each other if there's proper reason for it.
Sorry Johnny , we r not professional as you are; we can not plan a war and sell bloods at war night like you did to Memento long time ago , or we never make underground deals like you, as all professional players did. Better to stfu and sit on your ass instead of making "innocent comments" ...

lol when did Vinci sell Memento? :')
30-10 Carneglia + Trotters → AsFu
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21:51:06 - 30-10
Hugo Top Statement
Trotters were our old friends which we played many versions, and we never thought to fire them... but seems Cynakur doesn't think the same, whatever he choose his side and we are at our side. Kurosawa and Marazzino noobs shows him the wrong way, rip all who died ..

I can't help but see so many wrong things in this statement... Most things that I consider that are ruining this game more and more each version are in this top statement.

AsFu alliance shot down bloods of Trotters last night, there should every old peace and "friendship" end. I'm not saying you should pick out each others eyes and yell sob and never be friends again, but you can't expect to keep "peace" by going to war. It shows you either have very little respect for Trotters and not taking them seriously, or you're just arrogant enough to think no one will shoot you back, and you can do whatever you want.
If you are such great old friends blood each other, play together, don't talk here about who's choosing who's side and shit like that. Each action should get reaction. You overrun Trotters like they're joke, be happy with it.
And I actually hope there will be more actions. like the one tonight, in future versions (this one is already sad enough), that even close friends will shoot each other if there's proper reason for it.
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10:00:20 - 22-10
`Donalo`Sixx at 04:31:35 on 22/10:
Ofc stupid Elindio, dont you know gravano & Vinci are omerta gods! You should thank them for letting you bath in their glorious shadow!

Wow, I had no idea we left that strong impression on you. I never had a clue you consider us God, now I know why you came to beg on start for a successor.
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15:02:48 - 19-10
Jonsered at 14:42:20 on 19/10:
It looks like some kind of Champions League, where Real, Inter, Barca, Milan, ManU, Bayern and other grands eliminate each other in group stages, then somehow lose against weaker opponents in 1/16, and only non-top teams like Genk, BATE or Olympiakos stay in competition.

Competition is still on, however all top team coaches and supporters say "screw this game, those teams play non-interesting football, we do not care who will win, bla bla reset this league and lets start over".

Now would those words be fair towards those low level teams, who are still in the competition, since some of them, knowing they are not as powerful, chose defensive style of play and managed to score at their only oportunity, some of them had a bit of luck, and some put REALLY REALLY hard effort to be where they are now - and this is their achievement of the history?

Would it be fair towards them?

Should there only be Omerta with Conflict, Vinci, Vaffa, Krays, Marazzino, Liberta, Gambino, Righelli, Lucchese and Nazdrovia, and when those fams are down version is considered boring/closed?


This is quite interesting comparison. Not far from the truth, but you missed point imo.
I ask you how many of you would sit home or in pub, alone of with friends and follow Semi finals between BATE vs Plzen and Genk vs APOEL? :p
Now talking about what UEFA cares about how many tickets will be sold for a final between BATE and APOEL? What will ratings be? And in the end most important imo is that we all know how long will 1 CL season last, and we all know why we watch CL.
So by CL standards, that we do we know about Omerta now? How long will this "peace" last? Will there even be "matches" worth watching?
Imo Omerta is atm in Offside :p

And Omerta is game which is really hard to determine winner, and somehow I don't consider being #1 on stats winning. It's way more important to get recognition by other players then to get on #1 spot in the end.

And it doesn't matter is core group large or small. It's stupid to judge what someone does on it's size, I judge families only on it's deeds.
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13:56:44 - 19-10
Anonymous at 13:36:50 on 19/10:
Long bloodslist isnt a new style. Didnt conflict play with a big list before in the versions they won?
Wasnt vinci part of pussypact?

Both mentioned fams also had a lot of asslicker fams. If Conflict (or vinci for the matter) got shot at, fam with no official relation (not being bloods) shot for them. Although not an official blood, cuz god forbid long bloodslist.

So its not really something new, neither is it something you didnt use yourself, although not openly.

Also you said 'old' fams wouldnt play the waiting game. Explain Righelli's strategy this version then.

Its all nothing new. In the versions Conflict did well and/or won with their bloodring, none official pact, it was vinci people and nazd people complaining here complaining about their style.

When Vinci did well, Conflict (and bloods) people complained here about their style of playing

And now when non of these 'old' fams are up atm, they seem to gather here to complain about the present top fams.

I do agree with what Johnny wrote in one of his previous posts. Fams who are on top now seem to be clueless on how to organise a war, or even how to win by really lock a version.

You're right. There was pussy pact and there was famous pact of Conflict and co. There were always "asslickers" and those who would jump in and we all have used it. There's no need to hide it.
When Conflict would be dominating they would have well known plan, to kill everyone but it's bloods, so you knew for sure Conflict will close game and make it end. Even if Conflict wouldn't give you chance to come back, you knew they won and that was simply it. Everyone whined cause we all felt powerless against it. But game was moving, and that's whole point.
We are in versions now where there are no more so dominating power houses such as Conflict's group back then.

But I can tell you 1 huge difference between now and then. Families back then shot, and kept shooting, pussypact or pact or even single, all of them had agenda had and clear idea what to do. No matter how dirty game was, lies, backstabs or whatever all that was happening in game was making game interesting and moving, was making those who got killed feeling screwed over. There were more than 2 groups, there were many families fighting own battles, making own enemies. And every now and then you would get big clash where a lot of families would involve. Back then families without idea what to do wouldn't last long cuz they would get shot in fight for top.

If you ask me now I would trade 10 of these clueless families for 1 Fumatore, who knows game and who has agenda.
And I'm totally wrong person to talk about Righelli, but Righelli which I saw this version is far from Righelli I know.

And maybe you're right, it's nothing new that fams follow those who scream louder, but it's completely new that families play without any ambition to do anything. And this keeps going on and on...
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13:10:10 - 19-10
Noobster at 12:38:14 on 19/10:
I agree that the tactic I mentioned is not perfect and idd, you still have to deal with bloods. However, if you have adapted you have also 10 bloods yourself, and half the bloods of the fam who you attack won't do shit anyways since they wanna keep hugging. And besides, many strong fam have enough money to buy bg's at obay. And during the night you can get your lowranked members, and won't be shot probably, put their bg's on obay for easy money...

I think conflict and righelli (just to mention 2 fams), 2 fams I respect due to their names and the old days, need some upgrades and some new members in top. In rl you need sometimes a new director/manager to gain new views and regain some enthousiasm etc....

So basically for new style you say each "old" fam should add at least 2-3 new bloods so they can compete with others? You just said new style = pussy style. There for adapting to new style means becoming pussy, blooding and waiting. I don't think "old" families function like that. Try imaging version played like this, where Conflict, Righelli, Lucchese, Coccada, Vaffanculo, Gravano, Krays, Nazdrovia, Vincitori would all blood within each other and wait for someone to hit them so others can jump in. Pretty pathetic right?

And I didn't mean to fight off these fams when you're up, I meant returning when most of them are waiting you to pop up just so they could have someone to shoot.
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12:26:24 - 19-10
Noobster at 12:10:19 on 19/10:
But if you could organise to get ppl online during the night in 2.7 or even before, why not anymore, while they are still your members? If they are loyal and threat them right, and not how many tops do, you will gain real loyalty and they will join. Your top is like 5-8 ppl? ;) So, then you need 5-10 more. You are from an old fam with probably players who are already in your fam from the start... Why can't you get them online? they are triggerhappy you say...

And nope, not gonna say which fam I am. Don't think it does add something to the discussion. And yes, around since 2.1 and been tops in several fams. Nope, not loyal to only 1, due to different circumstances. ;)

It's really not problem for me to get 20-30 old core plays online in 3 am to shoot, more of that is not even needed, but tbh when we played active offline was so much stronger than online, that it would just be damn stupid to shoot at 3-4 am. We actually used sms thing in our own advantage to bring people online to kill em.

Also I think your 10-15 shooter tactic works only on paper. 1st even if lets say your 10-15 perfect shooters do have a perfect attack, you get problem of long blooded fam lists, cause someone of 10 alive bloods of fam you just raped will shoot them down, while they're retraining bgs.

In the end new style vs old style, there's no even discussion. I don't even think new style exists, I really do think most of fams in top are completely clueless, and that they got no idea how they got there. I hope time on top at least help some of them create own identity and own style, I hope some of them show that I am damn wrong when I say they all wanna live happily ever after together, but I really doubt that will happen.

And I asked you for your family even though it was irrelevant cuz I was curious to see which fam of so cold "old ones" you believe needs style changing.
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Noobster at 11:12:11 on 19/10:
Thnx for your reply Johnny. I think you just mentioned yourself that the old style was to shoot with 2 or 3 fams and nowadays it's 20-30. So you can say as an old familly we stick to the old style, but that's not gonna work. So you have to form alliance of perhaps 20 famillies who shoot another alliance of 20 famillies, I don't know. Why is ervyone always shooting in the evening, about 20:00 OT? Why not during the night of early morning in the weekend. last version we saw (dunno which name exactly, but from south America) who shot at 4 o'clock and another fam shot sunday monring 8:00 o'clock and killed a bigger fam easily. And don't say it's not possible to arrange, because we both know half omerta is dupes, a quarter is students and the rest ranks also during work! :) Same for shooting offline targets, indeed it sucks that they are way too strong, but you have to deal with it so do more preshooting during the night. Not many have sms alert, and besides, half time it doesn't work. Last, but not least, you say that the number of ppl rankers is decreasing under 1k. This is partly because of lackeydupes, they are not mentioned, while most fams exist by them... But when shooting is needed, they will be online suddenly. So the statistics about online ppl are not a very good indication of ppl who can shoot or amount of actual players.

Well you got some points right, but again not completely.
It's quite easy finding 8-10 fams (in normal version) or 20-30 fams (in version like this) to shoot with you. That's not a new style or old style, outnumbering massively always did happen. Imo you could still do now 3 vs 1 if you plan it good. Problem is families with absolutely no idea what are they doing and why are they up. Those fams are the problem. Then take a look at this massive blooding which happens. When you see bloods shooting bloods it becomes clear to you those bloods are just made to try to be safe. And again bloods vs bloods is imo one of best things that could happen in this version, it shows that families still have their own agenda. Now you get bunch of fams who are scared to shoot each other cuz they don't know what will happen after. Passive families live long, families with no identity live long cuz they are easy to adapt to WHATEVER happens in game. These families got on top by pure luck (except maybe 3-4 max) by blooding and by doing almost absolutely nothing. That could be your "new style". Tbh I think it's in interest of every family in game to not adapt to it, and instead to try to make their own style. Tell me how many families saw bloods dying and did shit? That is your "new style". And that blood vs blood, so we stay out shit, that's really stupidest excuse ever.

Coming online in late night hours was something common practice for 2.3 after that version I saw it happen less and less. Last time I remember wars like that is either 2.5 or 2.7. There's nothing wrong in coming online in 2-3 am and starting war, but I think only few families can organize it today. And with all the KA changes lately, you pray your target is online, not offline. And when you outnumber your target by so much in the end you don't even care are they online or offline.

Lackey dupes I don't even count in as players, and (even though I don't know myself) I heard that bullet lackey isn't really that effective in buying bullets. So my guess is 100% lackey accounts are still joke, as spot ranked accounts were in 3.0. Problem, which many of people on irc told me, is people just don't find reason to come online anymore, cuz nothing happens, friends and people they know go away by every new day cause they're bored with what's happening.
Now this is game and players problem, not lackeys or whatever. Families and players in past would sit and wait for reset, chitchatting talking about top families. How can you even talk now about top families cause most of them didn't do absolutely anything to remember.

And I would like to ask you same thing as lunatiko did, would be lovely if you would share us your family origin with us.
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Noobster at 09:57:42 on 19/10:
For those who complain about version is over, reset, blabla: Stop crying! The aggressive fams are death because they could not addapt to new rankers, new gamestyle and are stuck to the 'old days'. Shooting offline targets is possible, but shooting 60k is just plain stupid! Reranking is still possible, since arcanine (i don't know the guy, so no opinion about him and his actions) has proven you can shoot a gf/fl with some shootingskills/strategy and lackeybrugs.

So those who complain about reset are those who only can motivate their members once (beginning of version), so they suck as a top anyways. Secondly, we see some fams back in top, like gambino, leviticus and temp (no opinion about them either, since I'm not in their fam) who have died several times but have the ability to recover.

And yes, version can be close by some fams, bu i think they are stocking bullets atm, so they can start shooting for a few days/weeks in a row!

Ok no offense but this theory about "new style" and adapting is complete nonsense for me.
There is no "New style" there is nothing to adept to, no one even mentioned shooting offline targets so don't know why you bring that up.
Reranking is always possible, but question is why for? When you see how game developed and when you realize that day when you go up you'll have at least 20-30 families to kill or be killed, families who barely did anything it just makes no sense to do so. Why go up to get shot down same day or week? That's not about motivating rankers or whatever, it's about having some responsibility for people who play in your family to not lead them to certain death just to show others or yourself you can go up.
Reset is needed when number of online players never passes 1k you know game is in serious problem, so tbh I think families who are up have problems motivating players to rank more. No one is showing ambition atm to do anything significant to win version. Maybe I'm wrong and there are plans, but I don't see anything changing any time soon. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we go into November without any real wars, and this can go on and on.

However when you already mentioned "new style" and "old families" I would really like to hear what you consider new style and where old families failed to adapt, and who are those who failed to adapt?