I have no idea who Tunc or Solstice are but if you are dark from 2.x and 3.x versions I can only laugh at stupid things you keep writing over years...

Any real top would be ashamed of this abomination players created to "win" game... I am merely a spectator for long time now, but this, right now, is the most pathetic epilogue of "version" I've ever witnessed...


This is beyond stupid... If people follow you blindly, you are dealing with sheep, not humans. If no one of 100 members is asking himself wtf is he or she doing wasting 3 weeks of their life for this, than that's even more sad. That doesn't mean you are doing something right, it just means you have player base uncappabble of thinking or that you run a bot army.
You can't expect all your members to understand game, but some at least have to have some understanding of the game and to realize what his or hers family is doing is the most cowardly way of "winning" game, ever. If all of your members get off on winning version with 70% of active players without proper wars and real challenge, that sounds more like 2nd grade competition in arts where everyone gets medal for participation, not for winning.


Saying today is us, tomorrow will be you is just making things worse. You, and few of the old players who keep playing this need to realize this doesn't have 10k active players anymore to create huge alliances or bloods, having 5-6 bloods could work in 3.x versions when there was 5k+ active players. From what I see now, having even 2 bloods is questionable, not to mention all as 1 shit that pop up.

Players effectively managed to run this game into the ground, and the ones to blame are old tops who didn't shake off their old disputes and habits. People act like losing here is worst thing that can happen, then make dozen bloods and as ones. Dying in these newer versions is nowhere near as punishable as it used to be, so it gives you even less reason to mass blood and close version within 1 month of it's start.

But hey maybe I'm completely wrong and people actually enjoy this .dm versions that .com turned into. I just know few years ago most players wouldn't bother playing if everything was decided before game even started...

Damn, if logs are on english I think everyone here wanna see them.

That's right and that should be purpose of ROM. However reset shouldn't happen before every other option for prolonging version is not viable. Just cause bunch of people died and don't see point in reranking doesn't mean it should stop family who is still alive and has real chances to win and make different ending for them or some other families from achieving it or at least trying to make their plans happen.

This game didn't need ROM for ages, and it didn't need voting to say when reset is needed. Now for anyone who played this game in 2.x versions think that game should reset before Guardians and Siyahsancak finish their war and clear winner of it is known is probably member of family (or families) that will not survive that war. There's is total of 0 reason to reset or announce reset during ongoing war, especially in a month long version. Surely people can wait for 1 more week to get so desired reset if they wish to play next version.

If you would announce winner and reset in war that is pretty much version deciding, it would be disrespectful to all players who played this version. It would show that admins who are in charge game and version don't really care about game events. It wouldn't surprise me if that happens but it would be another defeat for dying game.

It doesn't matter did they plan or not, hell they might be idiots who got incredibly lucky, or masterminds behind many wars but never bothered to show their real intentions. What matters is the end result. I know some of people who play in Sancak play this game for very long time, so they do have experience to be both masterminds and lucky idiots at the same time.

Hell if it's to believe what some people from Guardians and Marazzino said to us, it was Siyah who wanted Vincitori dead when they made 1st move together. So I think you're being harsh when you say they didn't plan shit. On the other hand I have no idea how did that group function inside, I just know what outsider can see, and from my point of view Siyahsancak pulled some really nice moves.

It's irrelevant what Birader or Siyahsancak said here, they played this game as it should be played, like an RPG mafia game. They made smart moves and used every war to make their position better, or at least it looks like that from the outside. They weren't blooded to Guardians from start, they had their own goals and they played smart to achieve it. Well played to them, with no matter how this ends.

This is coming from someone who didn't play for long, and got shot by Siyahsancak and most of families who are shooting tonight, I must say I am glad you guys shot us if this was your game plan all along, cause you definitely played this game right. Respect for that.

It would be disaster if admins announce reset before all this is settled, people can wait 1 more week before new version starts. It's actually really refreshing and encouraging to see families fight each other for that number one spot.

15-07 Welcome in 3.0
13-07 Reset announced

From this site in section of 3.0. You're right I was wrong it didn't last over a year, but it lasted a year.

My memory is still pretty good :P

I don't suffer from amnesia and I do remember how things here went in the past.

I don't get where does myth of Vinci starting massblooding come from?
You talk about 2,1 when Vinci started, or 2,3 to 2,4 where everyone played in alliance where idd Affinitas was huge? Or you talk about 2,8 where Vinci had 6-7 bloods which was normal for those times?
Or you talk about 2,9 where we had overall 8 bloods, (where never all of them were up at the same time) in version where Vinci was up twice. Now don't forget that during times Omerta was still at it's peak and it had around 10k active players at least.
Or you talk about 3,0 where we had one war against 20+ families? Even in that version we didn't have more than 6 bloods, 7 at the very end cause we blooded Dead Rabbits when version was already decided (Kerberos, Vaffanculo, Gravano, Gambino, Talamasca and later Leviticus and after that we added DIG because Talamasca joined them, Dead Rabbits and Liberta) in version that lasted almost a year. That's 8 families in a year long version. In version that probably had over 100 families up. And for the record we started with 5 bloods, which in that that time was pretty normal number.
Or you talk about 3,1 where we had 4 bloods? Vaffanculo, Gravano, Talamasca, Civella.
Or you talk about 3,2 where again we had 5 bloods on start adding 1 more later on? Conflict, Vaffanculo, Gravano, Liberta, Talamasca and we blooded Presidential after 1st war.
Or we are talking about 3,3 where we had 5 bloods again. Conflict, Marangello, Gravano, Liberta and Venture? Where we ended up killing Venture cause we found out they were making plan to kill us with our bloods.
I didn't play 3,4 but I don't think it went much different.

Most of you talking about pacts here have no clue where that word came from. First group people here called pact was Conflict - Curse - Righelli - Illusion (with some more fams). Those fams were literally making us all look like clowns trying to fight them and fail, that people started calling them pact cause everyone felt powerless in attempts to kill them. That lasted from 2.7 to 2.8a (4 versions, thought they didn't win 2.8).

It's amazing how people here suffer from amnesia and how events actually went. We as Vinci played our own role in pacts, and yes we did use that play style cause it is so effective, but please do not give bullshit here how we started it and this is just reaction to it. Vincitori prior to this version didn't play for 3 years, and you still say families play that way cause Vincitori forced everyone to play that way? Please stop lying to yourself or others. And besides look at versions where Vincitori wasn't shot out of pure fear or hate (2,9), we actually played quite different than most of you remember and talk here.

You're right about some things, I am out of date and it's a fair point no one gives a fuck about how I see version should end.

And it's sad thing if 3,1 is considered old days...
I will however correct you about history. In 3.1 we shot at Conflict's bloods and helped kill them so Nazdrovia was able to take that version for themselves. In 3,2 was 1st version where we and Conflict tried to play together without intention to backstab each other, and you can see yourself how did that go on this site. We (Vincitori) got shot by 20+ families in span of 1 week and Conflict had similar fate. We won only 1 version together with Conflict and that is 3,3 after that I retired, and Vinci did retire version after that, after having similar fate as in 3,2. Even then we as Vincitori had only 4 or 5 bloods while other fams had far higher number than ours. And please, we sucked Conflict and co. in same version we shot at them? Besides, Affinitas family (Magliana) and CCCE family (Sigma) were bloods already in 2,7 but it didn't work at that time, simple because game was played different then. And there's a point where people just get tired of fighting same wars and realize they have much more in common with those who they fight against than those who sit and wait for them to fight same old wars.

I will take responsibility and say yes we did have our fair share at creating sides, but all bullshit I see here written about past is just laughable, I'm not sure do people actually forget or they make their own twisted vision of events that did happen in past.

I was anon, but I wrote wrong password and din't notice I didn't log in.

Though it's pretty obvious these families work together and will continue to do so until they removed most of their threats.
People told me when I started this version game is like this now but I refused to believe it, though sad thing about this is that in current Omerta state 1 family having anything more than 2 bloods is too much. But when you have family that has 4 or more bloods, in current Omerta numbers that's really too much.

I just wonder how will this be at the end if they get to the end, will Guardians shoot Siyahsancak, or will Ferocia go against Guardians's bloods. Would be weird for Siyah to act so close to Guardians and Ferocia without being tied to them by some bloodship. Personally I doubt anything of that will happen, I just hope it does cause otherwise it would be bullshit ending for some really nice moves Guardians, Ferocia and Siyahsancak did. I hope all 3 powerhouses there go for the win, and don't settle with sharing it with other 2 fams.

I personally don't think it will happen, just that it would be fun if it does happen, because finishing version that never had 30 fams with 1/5 of game is just sad, but that's how omerta is these days...

What I'm saying is rather simple concept that I believe anyone who wants to, can understand without problems, but I can make it more clear.

I never expected to play sims, in fact only thing I regret this version is that we didn't shoot day before we got attacked on anyone so our members could have some fun shooting at least.

It is provoking to our people who came here for Stekke, ranked for 2 weeks, to be shot by family that has RIP Stekke on fam page. It is kind of provoking and there for I asked them myself to remove it from fam page, as it was making our people more salty. Also it's ironical that you shoot family that has least bloods in game, family that asked you to work together if your goal is to stop pacts from dominating, that came back to have fun with 0 idea of game (there for we had 0 bloods for long time, even if almost 50% of omerta asked us for bloods), while you also pay respect to Vinci's founder on fam page. We are perfectly fine of being shot, we are used to it, hell I can probably count on fingers of one hand times when we were shot with ratio of 2v1 or worse, so really we don't have problem with that, what we did have problem was seeing Stekke's name on family that's shooting us down. Not because we don't think they don't respect him or whatever, but because it was provoking to our people who came back for him.

It is ironic and especially when you know that our family has many rl friends and family of Stekke, that we built family in his honor to respect his wishes, to be shot by family that we considered friendly and talked daily to have RIP Stekke on fam page, while at same time killing people who grouped for sole reason of honoring him.

I do hope you can understand that people do get emotionally invested in this game, and that it is provoking to see something like that on family page of family that is shooting you down.

I am aware some of you might knew Stekke and some might considered him as friend, and it is perfectly fine to honor him on your profiles if you think you should, but keeping it on your fam page while you are decimating family he started and was brought back for him is at least provoking if not more.

I was here for war you're talking about, well not here since I was away for 2 weeks when that war happened but I do know part you're talking about. Yes reset wasn't announced then when war started, but it was announced same night or day after can not remember that exactly.

On the 2nd part, yeah we also did many ''gangbangs'' it's the nature of game, shoot or get shot at. You did your fair share of gangbangs yourself. And there's absolutely no reason to feel bad if you did pull out gangbang on family that is big threat and has potential to be that.

Did Vinci deserved this or not is irrelevant, it happened and that's all there is left to talk about.

Sadder thing is though and it says a lot about current state of Omerta is that if family that didn't play for 3 years, comes back bloods 1 family (that's not from either Anarchy or Siberia side), and gets shot for it before there are Godfathers in the game by families who tend to be anti-pact, says a lot about current state of the game.

I wont go into details on this news site as I tend to write articles instead of posts, just want to say there's no point in blaming or pointing fingers at Guardians or whoever for doing this kind of shooting, it's by far the safest way to shoot. Problem is in mentality of people, if hatered and fears or worries carry over for over 3 years, and even after assuring people that you don't plan to play with pacts and try to do play alone as much as possible, you're either offered to be someone's wardog or be shot, then I am afraid there's not much left of this game to be played.

It was fun to return for few weeks, and go through all the things that happen here daily, but in it's current game state it's mind blowing people keep playing this over and over again.

I mean I don't expect much from anonymous posters, but reading and understanding of what is written is very basic thing.

If you read beginning of Xerano's post that I quoted you will find your answer.

Anyway I'm over and out of this. I just shared my opinion had no intention to insult or provoke anyone, so good game to all of those who still play.

I never said I am solution. I tried playing as I said in my post, and we got shot with shitload of fams while we wanted to play open game for everyone (3.2). We got shot for exactly that, heaving least bloods while everyone else had way more.

In 3.3 I didn't care for anything of that, back then already I knew it will be my last version as top and all my bloods knew I just want to win. And that's how I played, I didn't care for good game anymore I just wanted to show all those fams who grouped to shoot us when we tried to play different what grouping leads to. I retired after that, and Conflict and Vincitori retired 1 version after that as well.

I honestly don't care will you guys keep doing this or not, I gave my opinion what's wrong with this game. I believed this was wrong in 3.3 when I did it as well, I wanted change and I tried to be the one, but change never came instead gangbanging came. Honestly I thought after Conflict and Vincitori are gone from the game as 2 families with big influence things will change, and I just saw how wrong I was.

Again your point in't that good. Faffie blooded different yes, Righelli kind of fell apart and joined up with others from what I see (unless you count Aeterna as Righelli, which I again I think is shame to unite big families with history like Vaffanculo, Righelli, Inzerillo and to some extent Fidelitas into huge fam).
Marazzino to my count blooded 8+ fams this version and made 2 sister families, it's not hard to blood different when you blood dozen fams. Marazzino blooded everyone who they worked with + some other fams just in case.

I am not anonymous but your points are rather weak.

Being member of Ferrante, Ferrante was never below 13 either in game or on ob news. In fact only time when Ferrante was below 11 was when Jannisary took them over for around day or two. Empire was also top 10 most of the time, same as Lusa (top 10 or around 10), so if you didn't blood top 10 fams you blooded top 15 fams for sure, cause not one of fams you blooded ever fell below number 15.

Also don't take this wrong, but with bloodings you guys did it is insulting to call others pact. Ascencion had 2 bloods when you killed em, and 2 sister fams of who neither one was in top 20 families, and their bloods had only 1 family in top 10 (Jannisary) if we count Ferrante as not top 10 which you do. Again I don't think Justice alliance is good for game, but calling them + Ascencion (+Marazzino?) pact after bloodings you guys did is laughable.

If you're so fast to throw word pact around, name one that was present in this version that you did not blood to? Gravano one - you pretty much destroyed it with blooding 2 old families of it. Turk pact - you blooded Marazzino from there. Only possible ''pact'' you weren't blooded to was Levi - Indelicato - Provenzano. Also any of these ''pacts'' had less bloods in top 15 (I wont say top 10 on purpose) than you. In fact there wasn't any other family besides Aeterna that had more families related to them in top 10 or top 15 from start of the version.

You won version fair and square, but way you did it is laughable to anyone who played this game long enough. Ask any top of family not blooded to you (actually I am sure some that are blooded to you think same just wont say it openly), what they think about your bloodings.

I completely agree with your 1st point. People here take everything too personal (hell I was same when I played), but yes that is biggest problem. People need to be able to kill and die without taking it personal, people need to understand that just cause someone shot with you in last 2 wars doesn't have to be your bff for the rest of the game. However I agree this is wishful thinking and that these things are very unlikely to change.

I was on both sides in these situations, part of huge groups and target of large groups, and I completely agree that all families need to be on the same page with this, cause it takes only 1 group and 1 bigger fam to stop this from happening. Families need to be run with desire to enjoy game and have fun playing, instead of run by fear and desire to ''pwn'' everyone else by any cost.

I actually think if families (and I mean all of em) would try this, ''new'' way of playing instead of standard lets blood till we drop, they would have more fun shooting in much more open wars. Dying and reranking would be very viable option, and it could keep game flow going on for much longer than month or two. Of course all this would ask for admin help in all of this, providing good KA and healthy game environment.

Actually I'm really happy that tops from leading fams see this as more interesting way to play game.

I have no clue who you are, my guess is either some top or high member of some family, but if you think what Aeterna did is move in right direction then my whole post is pointless. If you think that #1 family that's twice size of 2nd family and makes as 1 with family that is also in top 10, then bloods #2 and #3 proceeding to blood 3 more fams in top 10 (or very close to it) is right direction for this game to go then future of this isn't long lasting.

With what I wrote I didn't mean Aeterna only. I meant on every single family in game. Imagine if Marazzino, Aeterna, Faffie, Gravano, Provenzano (without making alliance) etc. would blood 2 or 3 fams, and that these fams instead of working together to crush others work for themselves and try to win version alone.

No offense Saros but what you just said here is equal to saying I pwn on PES after playing AI on very easy.

When I made account this version I really didn't expect game to be worse than when I left, turns out I was quite wrong. Now I wont talk about different styles of different families because that's pointless, everything does what they think is best for them. However there are things that need to be said:

Bloodings, as they're done these days are complete joke. Current number of bloods could work in 2.x or early 3.x versions but with this number of ''active'' players and families, having anything more than 4 bloods is too much. Not to mention amount of as 1 or alliances. While game kept shrinking and player base kept getting smaller blood lists remained same as they were before. Most top families, most big families, don't even consider blooding less amount of fams to keep game open. That is what leads to game being over after 1 big war.

At this point it's not even admins fault game is in this condition (granted admins aren't helping it at all, and they did their fair share in ruining game), it's tops of each family that are unwilling to risk dying or being weaker with mixing things up and trying to keep game ''healthy'' as possible.
This game, in this condition and with this number of players is not ready for megalomaniac families or alliances. If anyone of those players or tops really cares about game they should stop for a second and think what are they doing. Will blooding 6 big fams and ending version within a week really matter? And every single family matters, if you want a change, be change yourself. Don't look on others and say well they blooded so many so I have to as well. If you want to make game more enjoyable for everyone, don't look how to survive and be safe, look how to play RPG game.

Omerta in past had numbers and players to bring dozens of big alliances and have dozen of big wars and keep game open and make it possible for everyone to play, shoot and die, win and lose wars but never before condition of game was this bad. Maybe it's sign of dying game and probably nothing will change, nor will my rant here matter. I just know I had more fun winning and losing wars and versions where I knew there's more into game than 1 war.

In the end I should congratulate Aeterna for winning this version, you guys deserved it and there's no question about that.