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09-05 Liberta vs Persico
Author: Smurfje
Last updated: 135d 1h 28m 0s ago by Redspeert
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Views: 7,811
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Version: 5.23
Involved families: Anonymous, Liberta, Persico
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Liberta shooting at Persico.

Persico returned fire.

Anonymous seems to also be involved in this war against Persico, but suffering heavily from backfire kills.
statistics
War started on: 20:06:53 09-05-2020 War ended on: 14:09:57 10-05-2020
Bullet difference: -4,260,437 War duration: 18h 3m
Money difference: -$416,108,954 Players died: 92




deaths
Dead Families:
[Anonymous] Family down on 14:01 10-05
[Liberta] Family down on 00:44 10-05
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Anonymous | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 1 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 182
Liberta | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 1 | brug: 32 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 494
Persico | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 0 | brug: 8 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 121
Total | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 7 | chief: 2 | brug: 50 | cd: 1 | gf: 2 | points: 797
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Anonymous (10:31:00 - 12-05)
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Maraz did nothing since fam is up?
Anonymous (04:03:51 - 12-05)
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Maraz probably sitting out there waiting to complain on obn after they get killed lol
Anonymous (00:39:36 - 12-05)
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Maraz/ Krays/Signoria vs Persico
Memento and Aquilas vs Batavia
Ontario/Blacksea vs Siberia/Dynasty

Let’s get ready to Rummmmmmmblr!
Anonymous (00:09:18 - 12-05)
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Anonymous at 22:51:50 on 11/05:
Persico godfather will be killed by liberta every day
We will see tomorrow thats nonsense.
Anonymous (22:51:50 - 11-05)
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Persico godfather will be killed by liberta every day
Anonymous (18:55:44 - 11-05)
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Shaon at 18:38:45 on 11/05:
Some people go away and found their own family. Some people do not have the motivation to build one from scratch. Some dont have guts and some stay with their fam out of pure loyalty. There is a difference among all these. You can not blame someone for a choice they made.You are free to make yours.

Not blaming anyone. But even if you wanted to make your own fam and even had a few players who would join you, it was pretty much impossible before. Now it is possible. So people who have thought about going up but didn´t do it cuz of obvious reason should try now. Not sure they will get a better opportunity than this.
Shaon Bangladesh (18:38:45 - 11-05)
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Some people go away and found their own family. Some people do not have the motivation to build one from scratch. Some dont have guts and some stay with their fam out of pure loyalty. There is a difference among all these. You can not blame someone for a choice they made.You are free to make yours.
Anonymous (18:37:52 - 11-05)
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ites at 15:37:09 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 15:24:41 on 11/05:
ites at 14:56:42 on 11/05:
Why? We always start without permission from the big scary fags closing cities. We might be complete and utter shit, but we do manage to get up.
Big family tops are to blame yes. So are their pussy members who would like to go on their own but can't find their balls

There is a big difference to go up as Krays, a family that has been around for a long time with tops everybody knows, compared to go up as New Fam with unknown tops. You gotta know that as well.

Is there?
I kinda feel you, before this round.
Now though?
10 brug fam in a city would at best cost 180k to kill, worst case 600k bullets. That's a cost of 1.2 billion for one empty famspot.

There are some real thick bastards in this game. I have yet to meet someone willing to spend 1.2 billion for 10 random, harmless brugs.

That is, until they found their balls and people realize they aren't harmless at all.
Looking at my fam and the amount of kills we've made, i doubt we can be categorized as harmless. That being said, even in our case, good luck finding someone willing to lose bullets and money cleaning us while there are still so many enemies around.
These bulletprices are a godsend for families wanting to up small.

Now is different, I agree with you there. The changes made has had a positive impact on the game, despite all the bitching from some people. I hope more people who have thought about starting their own fam will try next round.
ites Belgium (16:59:10 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 16:35:57 on 11/05:
ites at 15:37:09 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 15:24:41 on 11/05:
ites at 14:56:42 on 11/05:
Why? We always start without permission from the big scary fags closing cities. We might be complete and utter shit, but we do manage to get up.
Big family tops are to blame yes. So are their pussy members who would like to go on their own but can't find their balls

There is a big difference to go up as Krays, a family that has been around for a long time with tops everybody knows, compared to go up as New Fam with unknown tops. You gotta know that as well.

Is there?
I kinda feel you, before this round.
Now though?
10 brug fam in a city would at best cost 180k to kill, worst case 600k bullets. That's a cost of 1.2 billion for one empty famspot.

There are some real thick bastards in this game. I have yet to meet someone willing to spend 1.2 billion for 10 random, harmless brugs.

That is, until they found their balls and people realize they aren't harmless at all.
Looking at my fam and the amount of kills we've made, i doubt we can be categorized as harmless. That being said, even in our case, good luck finding someone willing to lose bullets and money cleaning us while there are still so many enemies around.
These bulletprices are a godsend for families wanting to up small.


you only will sit and wait without politics and without have an idea what is going on around and will shoot somewhere unexpected and will consider yourself as good family?
really wonder that when you will realize you and your family didnt achive a single sh*t here.
sad but true.
Saying sad but true don't make it so. You're just looking for excuses for your playstyle.
But yes, do without politics. Shoot at the right time, do some damage, and connections will come. And hopefully don't suck the cock of the big guys you just left, or you both will be akilled.
Anonymous (16:35:57 - 11-05)
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ites at 15:37:09 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 15:24:41 on 11/05:
ites at 14:56:42 on 11/05:
Why? We always start without permission from the big scary fags closing cities. We might be complete and utter shit, but we do manage to get up.
Big family tops are to blame yes. So are their pussy members who would like to go on their own but can't find their balls

There is a big difference to go up as Krays, a family that has been around for a long time with tops everybody knows, compared to go up as New Fam with unknown tops. You gotta know that as well.

Is there?
I kinda feel you, before this round.
Now though?
10 brug fam in a city would at best cost 180k to kill, worst case 600k bullets. That's a cost of 1.2 billion for one empty famspot.

There are some real thick bastards in this game. I have yet to meet someone willing to spend 1.2 billion for 10 random, harmless brugs.

That is, until they found their balls and people realize they aren't harmless at all.
Looking at my fam and the amount of kills we've made, i doubt we can be categorized as harmless. That being said, even in our case, good luck finding someone willing to lose bullets and money cleaning us while there are still so many enemies around.
These bulletprices are a godsend for families wanting to up small.


you only will sit and wait without politics and without have an idea what is going on around and will shoot somewhere unexpected and will consider yourself as good family?
really wonder that when you will realize you and your family didnt achive a single sh*t here.
sad but true.
am Norway (16:32:46 - 11-05)
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The long winter is over, just the last stand remaining. Get it over with woulda ya.
Anonymous (16:20:25 - 11-05)
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It's so funny to see this "ites" guy trying to be relevant LOL
ites Belgium (15:37:09 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 15:24:41 on 11/05:
ites at 14:56:42 on 11/05:
Why? We always start without permission from the big scary fags closing cities. We might be complete and utter shit, but we do manage to get up.
Big family tops are to blame yes. So are their pussy members who would like to go on their own but can't find their balls

There is a big difference to go up as Krays, a family that has been around for a long time with tops everybody knows, compared to go up as New Fam with unknown tops. You gotta know that as well.

Is there?
I kinda feel you, before this round.
Now though?
10 brug fam in a city would at best cost 180k to kill, worst case 600k bullets. That's a cost of 1.2 billion for one empty famspot.

There are some real thick bastards in this game. I have yet to meet someone willing to spend 1.2 billion for 10 random, harmless brugs.

That is, until they found their balls and people realize they aren't harmless at all.
Looking at my fam and the amount of kills we've made, i doubt we can be categorized as harmless. That being said, even in our case, good luck finding someone willing to lose bullets and money cleaning us while there are still so many enemies around.
These bulletprices are a godsend for families wanting to up small.
Anonymous (15:24:41 - 11-05)
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ites at 14:56:42 on 11/05:
Why? We always start without permission from the big scary fags closing cities. We might be complete and utter shit, but we do manage to get up.
Big family tops are to blame yes. So are their pussy members who would like to go on their own but can't find their balls

There is a big difference to go up as Krays, a family that has been around for a long time with tops everybody knows, compared to go up as New Fam with unknown tops. You gotta know that as well.
ites Belgium (14:56:42 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 13:00:04 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 11:01:56 on 11/05:
to be fair, its the sheer lazyness in rankers and 'oldskool' tops that killed this game.
people used to break off from big fams because they wanted gf themselves.
unfortunately the biggest fams settle for easy wins by keeping everyone following like sheep.
and most of the sheep have no motivation to do smth more because they dont know anything else than dumb ranking and are happy with 5m bm per week.

so yeah i can imagine why all these 'small failing' fams are pointing fingers at big fams
its the going for easy wins that has forged families that stay the same for years and pacts that are formed from day 1 effectively killing all renewing factors and destroying all servers.

Wouldn´t say it´s just lazyness that has prevented people from starting their own families the past few years. A bigger issure I would say is that big fams have "closed" cities before the round even started. Then to try start a small fam with 10 people is pretty much impossible. All you did was to give that cities big fam an extra spot.

I must admit I have not played in about a year or so, so I do not know how it has been the few versions before this one but in this version I think it would have been possible to start smaller fams and survive longer than a few hours. Plating is probably one reason. Another might be the no sister fams allowed, more space in cities.
Why? We always start without permission from the big scary fags closing cities. We might be complete and utter shit, but we do manage to get up.
Big family tops are to blame yes. So are their pussy members who would like to go on their own but can't find their balls
Anonymous (13:00:04 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 11:01:56 on 11/05:
to be fair, its the sheer lazyness in rankers and 'oldskool' tops that killed this game.
people used to break off from big fams because they wanted gf themselves.
unfortunately the biggest fams settle for easy wins by keeping everyone following like sheep.
and most of the sheep have no motivation to do smth more because they dont know anything else than dumb ranking and are happy with 5m bm per week.

so yeah i can imagine why all these 'small failing' fams are pointing fingers at big fams
its the going for easy wins that has forged families that stay the same for years and pacts that are formed from day 1 effectively killing all renewing factors and destroying all servers.

Wouldn´t say it´s just lazyness that has prevented people from starting their own families the past few years. A bigger issure I would say is that big fams have "closed" cities before the round even started. Then to try start a small fam with 10 people is pretty much impossible. All you did was to give that cities big fam an extra spot.

I must admit I have not played in about a year or so, so I do not know how it has been the few versions before this one but in this version I think it would have been possible to start smaller fams and survive longer than a few hours. Plating is probably one reason. Another might be the no sister fams allowed, more space in cities.
Anonymous (11:04:01 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 11:01:56 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 09:50:12 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 21:51:14 on 10/05:
The people who made the most toxic comments probably never had a top account nor they lead a faction nor they are even old-school. I can bet my dick on it. Only such ignorant people can make such stupidly toxic comment. Real top players are humble.There toxic because they cant achieve what few great players had done. Speaking of old school, there are many who exaggerate about their old school status. ...

Hear hear. You don't even have to be a great ranker to be a good top for a family. Rankers can be put at tactical spots, but leading a family is about keeping a group of players together and knowing the right strategy. I have to say the flaming hasn't changed that much over 16 years. It's always fingerpointing at the big families and at the admins, but never recognizing their own failures.


to be fair, its the sheer lazyness in rankers and 'oldskool' tops that killed this game.
people used to break off from big fams because they wanted gf themselves.
unfortunately the biggest fams settle for easy wins by keeping everyone following like sheep.
and most of the sheep have no motivation to do smth more because they dont know anything else than dumb ranking and are happy with 5m bm per week.

so yeah i can imagine why all these 'small failing' fams are pointing fingers at big fams
its the going for easy wins that has forged families that stay the same for years and pacts that are formed from day 1 effectively killing all renewing factors and destroying all servers.


Its easy to say big fams are just playing the game well.
Big fams could and should have realized they can't keep doing the same thing with the same people over and over and expect to keep an allround playerbase big enough to have a fun game.
They rather win 8 vers in a row and have no more server than win twice and dare themselves to innovate with new people, new fams and new targets.
Anonymous (11:01:56 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 09:50:12 on 11/05:
Anonymous at 21:51:14 on 10/05:
The people who made the most toxic comments probably never had a top account nor they lead a faction nor they are even old-school. I can bet my dick on it. Only such ignorant people can make such stupidly toxic comment. Real top players are humble.There toxic because they cant achieve what few great players had done. Speaking of old school, there are many who exaggerate about their old school status. ...

Hear hear. You don't even have to be a great ranker to be a good top for a family. Rankers can be put at tactical spots, but leading a family is about keeping a group of players together and knowing the right strategy. I have to say the flaming hasn't changed that much over 16 years. It's always fingerpointing at the big families and at the admins, but never recognizing their own failures.


to be fair, its the sheer lazyness in rankers and 'oldskool' tops that killed this game.
people used to break off from big fams because they wanted gf themselves.
unfortunately the biggest fams settle for easy wins by keeping everyone following like sheep.
and most of the sheep have no motivation to do smth more because they dont know anything else than dumb ranking and are happy with 5m bm per week.

so yeah i can imagine why all these 'small failing' fams are pointing fingers at big fams
its the going for easy wins that has forged families that stay the same for years and pacts that are formed from day 1 effectively killing all renewing factors and destroying all servers.
Anonymous (09:50:12 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 21:51:14 on 10/05:
The people who made the most toxic comments probably never had a top account nor they lead a faction nor they are even old-school. I can bet my dick on it. Only such ignorant people can make such stupidly toxic comment. Real top players are humble.There toxic because they cant achieve what few great players had done. Speaking of old school, there are many who exaggerate about their old school status. ...

Hear hear. You don't even have to be a great ranker to be a good top for a family. Rankers can be put at tactical spots, but leading a family is about keeping a group of players together and knowing the right strategy. I have to say the flaming hasn't changed that much over 16 years. It's always fingerpointing at the big families and at the admins, but never recognizing their own failures.
Anonymous (08:05:59 - 11-05)
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Anonymous at 22:04:56 on 10/05:
Anonymous at 21:51:14 on 10/05:
The people who made the most toxic comments probably never had a top account nor they lead a faction nor they are even old-school. I can bet my dick on it. Only such ignorant people can make such stupidly toxic comment. Real top players are humble.There toxic because they cant achieve what few great players had done. Speaking of old school, there are many who exaggerate about their old school status. I know it from my experience. I have been with persico for many years. I recruited many new players. One such player whom I trained from scratch to the bones, deserted us the next version, joined Provenzano an I was thundered to see written "Old School, Vincitori rank education, since 2.1" bla bla bla which he was not. People who created an account 10 years ago and never played starts playing from v5 and call themselves old-school. I think the way we consider being old-school is wrong. Who is old-school between a people who started on v5 ana played all rounds continuously or a guy who started on version 1 and till now only played 10 rounds?

Personally I think it's quite sad if you're proud that you started playing in v2.1 or w/e.
I know people that are considered new/newer players who are way better at killing than thse oldskool guys.

Also Vinci education is just a way of saying u used to suck dick
Just like liberta
Most all time winner of omerta in the past.
Why can't they win this?

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