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14-12 The blood keeps on spilling
Author: Terencio
Last updated: 2872d 1h 39m 36s ago by Kapow
Comments: 91
Views: 31,233
Votes: 1 (5 average)
Version: 4.10.3
Involved families: Godhand, Guardians, Hoogvliet, Paramount, Akronia, Blacksea, Confusion, Garristas, Horde, None, Oceans
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Latest trend on the streets these days is the mass amount of gun shooting between families, and this day is no different...as a few families declared war on Garristas..

The families of Hoogvliet, Guardians and Paramount began shooting this evening at Garristas.

The following families: Horde, Confusion and Akronia retaliate on Paramount.

The family None later came in and aimed their shots at Guardians
With such response from the above families has allowed Garristas to hit back

Godhand have shown up and are shooting at Garristas too.

The Oceans & Blacksea families are now shooting at Guardians.


/q Terencio^AFK for statements
statistics
War started on: 18:06:05 13-12-2016 War ended on: 20:50:05 18-12-2016
Bullet difference: +740,716 War duration: 5d 2h 44m
Money difference: +$1,074,115,222 Players died: 224




deaths
Dead Families:
[Guardians] Family down on 08:07 17-12
[Akronia] Family down on 21:26 16-12
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Akronia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 18
Blacksea | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 5
Confusion | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 14
Garristas | swin: 1 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 9 | brug: 17 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 301
Guardians | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 1 | chief: 5 | brug: 31 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 458
Hoogvliet | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 18
Horde | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 77
None | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 2 | chief: 4 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 112
Oceans | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 29
Paramount | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 8 | brug: 19 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 322
Total | swin: 7 | assa: 6 | lc: 5 | chief: 27 | brug: 82 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 1,354
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suppressor United States (13:22:32 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 07:03:29 on 15/12:
suppressor at 06:21:32 on 15/12:
I don't blame Para or Guardians for moving when they did. They knew they were going to be attacked, so they moved first. Can't fault them for that, it's damn smart warfare.

I like Kapow, Marla and several of the members of Guardians. The fact that they took the time to plan out this war smartly by blooding our bloods to keep them from shooting them for us was brilliant. It almost worked.

War is hell, and people get their feelings hurt. Mine were hurt for a bit, but I had a long talk last night with a top I respect a lot and I got some good sleep and woke up remembering that this is just a game that will reset in a couple of weeks anyways.

Peace out, mofos.

Quit talking like you're some big shot in this game man. And no i didn't die so don't bring up your usual weak response either.

I didn't realize that commenting on a forum made me seem like I thought I was some big shot in this game. I don't need any status in a game. Some of us play to have fun, not to be big shots. So, Mr Anonymous, who is too big of a pussy to post under his/her real name, you can stop feeling threatened by an internet post :)
Anonymous (13:18:12 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 10:25:01 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 07:03:29 on 15/12:
suppressor at 06:21:32 on 15/12:
I don't blame Para or Guardians for moving when they did. They knew they were going to be attacked, so they moved first. Can't fault them for that, it's damn smart warfare.

I like Kapow, Marla and several of the members of Guardians. The fact that they took the time to plan out this war smartly by blooding our bloods to keep them from shooting them for us was brilliant. It almost worked.

War is hell, and people get their feelings hurt. Mine were hurt for a bit, but I had a long talk last night with a top I respect a lot and I got some good sleep and woke up remembering that this is just a game that will reset in a couple of weeks anyways.

Peace out, mofos.

Quit talking like you're some big shot in this game man. And no i didn't die so don't bring up your usual weak response either.
Ofc you can't blame para and guardians shooting you.
But the real question Supressor is, can you blame horde to be responsable of this? by blooding a family that they actually knew from they would shoot Garristas they safed their self and put their 'mainblood' in a very bad situation.
Im my opinion this was their solit way to take away the hof from their bloods Garristas.
Now Garristas survived. But you guys were free to kill till the next the evening that u guys fired back with some more help.
But if it wasn't a Guardians(with all do respect to Guardians, you are good fam) but a family for an example like Merciless(with always sick amout of bullets) was shooting you guys would or dead or just few left.
So, here i come up to tho other qeustions.
Horde, why you do things what could caust your 'mainblood' ) their dead?
Second thing. Horde, blooding everything expect Paramount and Mitternacht so that Horde is safe and your other bloods can get all the hits, is so discusting. "Choose your allegeance".yeah right.
Does Horde really thinks that everyone is left let them just go away with the hof by playing this dirty?
I hope so not. I hope every familie that is left, realizes what Horde is trying to do and that is just doing nothing and win. (In rude way sucking everyones dick)
Lets see if it's gonna really work.
Well said! They did dirty shit last version too, so it's not a surprise.
Anonymous (10:31:58 - 15-12)
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Go FINALY FATALITY Favians , Galante :#
Anonymous (10:25:01 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 07:03:29 on 15/12:
suppressor at 06:21:32 on 15/12:
I don't blame Para or Guardians for moving when they did. They knew they were going to be attacked, so they moved first. Can't fault them for that, it's damn smart warfare.

I like Kapow, Marla and several of the members of Guardians. The fact that they took the time to plan out this war smartly by blooding our bloods to keep them from shooting them for us was brilliant. It almost worked.

War is hell, and people get their feelings hurt. Mine were hurt for a bit, but I had a long talk last night with a top I respect a lot and I got some good sleep and woke up remembering that this is just a game that will reset in a couple of weeks anyways.

Peace out, mofos.

Quit talking like you're some big shot in this game man. And no i didn't die so don't bring up your usual weak response either.
Ofc you can't blame para and guardians shooting you.
But the real question Supressor is, can you blame horde to be responsable of this? by blooding a family that they actually knew from they would shoot Garristas they safed their self and put their 'mainblood' in a very bad situation.
Im my opinion this was their solit way to take away the hof from their bloods Garristas.
Now Garristas survived. But you guys were free to kill till the next the evening that u guys fired back with some more help.
But if it wasn't a Guardians(with all do respect to Guardians, you are good fam) but a family for an example like Merciless(with always sick amout of bullets) was shooting you guys would or dead or just few left.
So, here i come up to tho other qeustions.
Horde, why you do things what could caust your 'mainblood' ) their dead?
Second thing. Horde, blooding everything expect Paramount and Mitternacht so that Horde is safe and your other bloods can get all the hits, is so discusting. "Choose your allegeance".yeah right.
Does Horde really thinks that everyone is left let them just go away with the hof by playing this dirty?
I hope so not. I hope every familie that is left, realizes what Horde is trying to do and that is just doing nothing and win. (In rude way sucking everyones dick)
Lets see if it's gonna really work.



Anonymous (09:06:10 - 15-12)
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Go FINALY FATALITY Favians , Galante :#
Anonymous (07:22:51 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 07:18:57 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 07:03:58 on 15/12:
Tony-E at 06:09:03 on 15/12:
Remaining families:
Stop love, make war.
Finaly, someone with a wise comment.

+1
Stop commenting on yourself

I see you're playing good cop - bad cop.
Anonymous (07:18:57 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 07:03:58 on 15/12:
Tony-E at 06:09:03 on 15/12:
Remaining families:
Stop love, make war.
Finaly, someone with a wise comment.

+1
Stop commenting on yourself
Anonymous (07:03:58 - 15-12)
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Tony-E at 06:09:03 on 15/12:
Remaining families:
Stop love, make war.
Finaly, someone with a wise comment.

+1
Anonymous (07:03:29 - 15-12)
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suppressor at 06:21:32 on 15/12:
I don't blame Para or Guardians for moving when they did. They knew they were going to be attacked, so they moved first. Can't fault them for that, it's damn smart warfare.

I like Kapow, Marla and several of the members of Guardians. The fact that they took the time to plan out this war smartly by blooding our bloods to keep them from shooting them for us was brilliant. It almost worked.

War is hell, and people get their feelings hurt. Mine were hurt for a bit, but I had a long talk last night with a top I respect a lot and I got some good sleep and woke up remembering that this is just a game that will reset in a couple of weeks anyways.

Peace out, mofos.

Quit talking like you're some big shot in this game man. And no i didn't die so don't bring up your usual weak response either.
suppressor United States (06:21:32 - 15-12)
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I don't blame Para or Guardians for moving when they did. They knew they were going to be attacked, so they moved first. Can't fault them for that, it's damn smart warfare.

I like Kapow, Marla and several of the members of Guardians. The fact that they took the time to plan out this war smartly by blooding our bloods to keep them from shooting them for us was brilliant. It almost worked.

War is hell, and people get their feelings hurt. Mine were hurt for a bit, but I had a long talk last night with a top I respect a lot and I got some good sleep and woke up remembering that this is just a game that will reset in a couple of weeks anyways.

Peace out, mofos.
Anonymous (06:10:54 - 15-12)
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Tony-E at 06:09:03 on 15/12:
Remaining families:
Stop love, make war.

Tega: +1
Tony-E Netherlands (06:09:03 - 15-12)
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Remaining families:
Stop love, make war.
Anonymous (05:11:04 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 04:58:12 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 04:55:55 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 04:06:58 on 15/12:
Big Bob at 03:27:51 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 01:48:10 on 15/12:



Garristas didn't pick this fight. 3 families and later a 4th tried to gangbang Garristas. Garristas bloods countered against some of those involved and some "bloods" turned out to be water and did nothing. Garristas regrouped and shot back. Guardians weren't defending. They attacked and failed. I'm sure someone will take out Garristas as they're severely damaged but they made a nice stand and still remain stronger than the gangbang pact that attacked them.


This is probably one of the funniest comments I've read on here in days!

Garristas had plans to attack later the same day with at least 6 other fams (read:gangbang) so the target fams attacked first.

Calling Guardians & Co. a gangbang is just hilarious really. Garristas alone had more Brug/chiefs than the attacking fams put together. Add in all their "brave" bloods who came to help and the ratio was easily 4 to 1 for the defenders.

With all the whining about how Horde/Gari/None have mass blooded you would think the families who take a shot at them would get some thanks instead.

Maybe some others will open their eyes now and take the opportunity to damage them some more as well.

Oh, you knew garristas plans? xD Garristas just shot in a chief war and lost some good accounts in bf. Guardians and gangbang partners saw an opportunity so they took it and got raped in return. No need to sugarcoat
Was the plan?
Horde Galante None > Paramount
Garristas backup on Guardians?

And why yes?
And thats why Garristas got shot cause they were too pussy to even hit Paramount. So they ate led instead.

Guardians and gangbang partner(s). Ehehe.

Bro 15-Dec @ 02:47:59 Bro failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Bro
Julia 15-Dec @ 00:19:51 Julia failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Julia
Micenx 14-Dec @ 23:29:05 Micenx failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Micenx
Lens 14-Dec @ 21:16:46 Lens failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Lens
Endless 14-Dec @ 21:06:53 Endless failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Endless
Sawyer 14-Dec @ 19:01:33 Sawyer failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Sawyer
Popeye 13-Dec @ 23:21:24 Popeye failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Popeye
Vera 13-Dec @ 23:11:24 Vera failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Vera
Revenge 13-Dec @ 21:37:54 Revenge failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Revenge
Timisoara 13-Dec @ 20:59:07 Timisoara failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Timisoara

This says enough :D

yesssss but Paramount - Guardians sold Mitternach-Forlenza first war
That is relevant how?

Or we need to go into how Fortress got shot right before countering with Paramount, Guardians and how Paramounts Guardians were hired on by Galante and 2 more families in that war so they couldnt quite move or it would be suicide right there and then?

We do not dicuss the decisions made by Guardians & Paramount we discuss how this was a gangbang waiting to happen from Garristas Horde etc side.. The ones that claim others are gangbanging their pact.
Anonymous (04:58:12 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 04:55:55 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 04:06:58 on 15/12:
Big Bob at 03:27:51 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 01:48:10 on 15/12:



Garristas didn't pick this fight. 3 families and later a 4th tried to gangbang Garristas. Garristas bloods countered against some of those involved and some "bloods" turned out to be water and did nothing. Garristas regrouped and shot back. Guardians weren't defending. They attacked and failed. I'm sure someone will take out Garristas as they're severely damaged but they made a nice stand and still remain stronger than the gangbang pact that attacked them.


This is probably one of the funniest comments I've read on here in days!

Garristas had plans to attack later the same day with at least 6 other fams (read:gangbang) so the target fams attacked first.

Calling Guardians & Co. a gangbang is just hilarious really. Garristas alone had more Brug/chiefs than the attacking fams put together. Add in all their "brave" bloods who came to help and the ratio was easily 4 to 1 for the defenders.

With all the whining about how Horde/Gari/None have mass blooded you would think the families who take a shot at them would get some thanks instead.

Maybe some others will open their eyes now and take the opportunity to damage them some more as well.

Oh, you knew garristas plans? xD Garristas just shot in a chief war and lost some good accounts in bf. Guardians and gangbang partners saw an opportunity so they took it and got raped in return. No need to sugarcoat
Was the plan?
Horde Galante None > Paramount
Garristas backup on Guardians?

And why yes?
And thats why Garristas got shot cause they were too pussy to even hit Paramount. So they ate led instead.

Guardians and gangbang partner(s). Ehehe.

Bro 15-Dec @ 02:47:59 Bro failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Bro
Julia 15-Dec @ 00:19:51 Julia failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Julia
Micenx 14-Dec @ 23:29:05 Micenx failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Micenx
Lens 14-Dec @ 21:16:46 Lens failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Lens
Endless 14-Dec @ 21:06:53 Endless failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Endless
Sawyer 14-Dec @ 19:01:33 Sawyer failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Sawyer
Popeye 13-Dec @ 23:21:24 Popeye failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Popeye
Vera 13-Dec @ 23:11:24 Vera failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Vera
Revenge 13-Dec @ 21:37:54 Revenge failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Revenge
Timisoara 13-Dec @ 20:59:07 Timisoara failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Timisoara

This says enough :D

yesssss but Paramount - Guardians sold Mitternach-Forlenza first war
Anonymous (04:55:55 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 04:06:58 on 15/12:
Big Bob at 03:27:51 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 01:48:10 on 15/12:



Garristas didn't pick this fight. 3 families and later a 4th tried to gangbang Garristas. Garristas bloods countered against some of those involved and some "bloods" turned out to be water and did nothing. Garristas regrouped and shot back. Guardians weren't defending. They attacked and failed. I'm sure someone will take out Garristas as they're severely damaged but they made a nice stand and still remain stronger than the gangbang pact that attacked them.


This is probably one of the funniest comments I've read on here in days!

Garristas had plans to attack later the same day with at least 6 other fams (read:gangbang) so the target fams attacked first.

Calling Guardians & Co. a gangbang is just hilarious really. Garristas alone had more Brug/chiefs than the attacking fams put together. Add in all their "brave" bloods who came to help and the ratio was easily 4 to 1 for the defenders.

With all the whining about how Horde/Gari/None have mass blooded you would think the families who take a shot at them would get some thanks instead.

Maybe some others will open their eyes now and take the opportunity to damage them some more as well.

Oh, you knew garristas plans? xD Garristas just shot in a chief war and lost some good accounts in bf. Guardians and gangbang partners saw an opportunity so they took it and got raped in return. No need to sugarcoat
Was the plan?
Horde Galante None > Paramount
Garristas backup on Guardians?

And why yes?
And thats why Garristas got shot cause they were too pussy to even hit Paramount. So they ate led instead.

Guardians and gangbang partner(s). Ehehe.

Bro 15-Dec @ 02:47:59 Bro failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Bro
Julia 15-Dec @ 00:19:51 Julia failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Julia
Micenx 14-Dec @ 23:29:05 Micenx failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Micenx
Lens 14-Dec @ 21:16:46 Lens failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Lens
Endless 14-Dec @ 21:06:53 Endless failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Endless
Sawyer 14-Dec @ 19:01:33 Sawyer failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Sawyer
Popeye 13-Dec @ 23:21:24 Popeye failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Popeye
Vera 13-Dec @ 23:11:24 Vera failed to kill you but did some damage, you tried to hit back but did no damage to Vera
Revenge 13-Dec @ 21:37:54 Revenge failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Revenge
Timisoara 13-Dec @ 20:59:07 Timisoara failed to kill you but did some damage, you hit back and did some damage to Timisoara

This says enough :D
Anonymous (04:14:07 - 15-12)
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can add blacksea to the list of attacker on Guardians too :)
Anonymous (04:06:58 - 15-12)
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Big Bob at 03:27:51 on 15/12:
Anonymous at 01:48:10 on 15/12:



Garristas didn't pick this fight. 3 families and later a 4th tried to gangbang Garristas. Garristas bloods countered against some of those involved and some "bloods" turned out to be water and did nothing. Garristas regrouped and shot back. Guardians weren't defending. They attacked and failed. I'm sure someone will take out Garristas as they're severely damaged but they made a nice stand and still remain stronger than the gangbang pact that attacked them.


This is probably one of the funniest comments I've read on here in days!

Garristas had plans to attack later the same day with at least 6 other fams (read:gangbang) so the target fams attacked first.

Calling Guardians & Co. a gangbang is just hilarious really. Garristas alone had more Brug/chiefs than the attacking fams put together. Add in all their "brave" bloods who came to help and the ratio was easily 4 to 1 for the defenders.

With all the whining about how Horde/Gari/None have mass blooded you would think the families who take a shot at them would get some thanks instead.

Maybe some others will open their eyes now and take the opportunity to damage them some more as well.

Oh, you knew garristas plans? xD Garristas just shot in a chief war and lost some good accounts in bf. Guardians and gangbang partners saw an opportunity so they took it and got raped in return. No need to sugarcoat
Big Bob (03:27:51 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 01:48:10 on 15/12:



Garristas didn't pick this fight. 3 families and later a 4th tried to gangbang Garristas. Garristas bloods countered against some of those involved and some "bloods" turned out to be water and did nothing. Garristas regrouped and shot back. Guardians weren't defending. They attacked and failed. I'm sure someone will take out Garristas as they're severely damaged but they made a nice stand and still remain stronger than the gangbang pact that attacked them.


This is probably one of the funniest comments I've read on here in days!

Garristas had plans to attack later the same day with at least 6 other fams (read:gangbang) so the target fams attacked first.

Calling Guardians & Co. a gangbang is just hilarious really. Garristas alone had more Brug/chiefs than the attacking fams put together. Add in all their "brave" bloods who came to help and the ratio was easily 4 to 1 for the defenders.

With all the whining about how Horde/Gari/None have mass blooded you would think the families who take a shot at them would get some thanks instead.

Maybe some others will open their eyes now and take the opportunity to damage them some more as well.
Anonymous (01:48:10 - 15-12)
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Anonymous at 21:49:29 on 14/12:
Anonymous at 21:43:26 on 14/12:
Anonymous at 21:37:51 on 14/12:
Anonymous at 21:26:10 on 14/12:
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Anonymous at 21:14:18 on 14/12:
Guys, it's just a game, have fun, kill and get killed. Why so many butthurt insults?

Garristas had the numbers to fight Guardians + Paramount and it would have been fair and fun, but they got None to counter on Guardians and Horde to counter on Paramount.

Why not save themselves some bullets and get their bloods to do the shooting? Those 3 BF are clearly not enough for all the 1 previous war they were in!

So now we have the 3 biggest families shooting on Paramount vs Guardians.

But that's just not enough clearly, and Confusion had the brilliant idea to counter on Paramount too, because this war was just to close to 1vs1 for them to feel comfortable still.

Garristas used their bloods and massive SH times to save themselves, nothing wrong there (overlooking the general top mass blooding ofc xD).
Just don't go around saying you're so brave, because all your tops hid away in SH or offline all night, and didn't even try to shoot last night or today basically. Just hid till the bloods actually did the shooting. (even Oceans was called in to join on the fun just in case xD)

But it's the other's side bloods that should be ashamed really (Confusion I'm looking at you).

+1 although u forget akronia..

Garristas,Horde,Confusion,Akronia,Oceans,None 6 fams, to shoot 2 families with less total people than garristas.. it got a bit out of hand

stop crying around you had enuf time to finish Garristas but you didnt, you was to sure you won the fight thets the payback!
Please tell me how 25 brugs finish 39 brugs in less then 24h while also getting shot.

I wanna take a note for my crew next version.

Garristas are defending. They didnt shoot Guardians and Co, Guardians & Co shot them. Now they sit on 5bg full def with no bf and still lost 2 dons. Marla's a ghost in a safehouse. Tick tock...



ur arguement is invalid, same thing happened for garristas.. they lost 2 dons, and were defending.. and safehoused 24/7.. thats part of the game..

Garristas didn't pick this fight. 3 families and later a 4th tried to gangbang Garristas. Garristas bloods countered against some of those involved and some "bloods" turned out to be water and did nothing. Garristas regrouped and shot back. Guardians weren't defending. They attacked and failed. I'm sure someone will take out Garristas as they're severely damaged but they made a nice stand and still remain stronger than the gangbang pact that attacked them.
Anonymous (22:30:10 - 14-12)
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Crane at 22:26:11 on 14/12:
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Anonymous at 21:56:29 on 14/12:
analyze whatever you want, it all comes down to bloods. Rounds are decided when rounds have hardly started because the big fams all have each others back. It does win you a round, it does not make this game fun.

To be fair bloods and as1 dont really mean anythong anymore tho. You can blood all you want but never be sure they actually help. The only ones you can trust are your real bloods, those you have played with a long time and know have your back, just like you have theirs, no matter what.

ofcourse, but you and i both know that there are enough real bloods to make rounds be decided very early on. Which is kinda logic when players have been playing the game for years and years. of course there are lots of ppl you know and respect. Automatically this will create an elite group which always wins. I guess..

Your guess, in my opinion, is totally unaccepted, and we can see that rare is the version when the same families win.

not same fams, but there is a select group of fams with have a real chance