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16-02 The Pact is Broken
Author: mmm
Last updated: 2986d 20h 36m 58s ago by MrWhite
Comments: 269
Views: 78,627
Votes: 1 (1 average)
Version: 4.9.4
Involved families: Gambino, Marazzino, Siyahsancak, Corvus, Guardians, Rivera
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With the ROM's ending in sight in a couple of hours, war once again enrages the streets of omerta!
Something many have thought to be impossible, the big Pact that was on everybody's lips since the massive strike versus Vincitori is now being shattered apart.
What could have caused this to happen? What would probably be the best description is today's unfolding of the #1 and #2 family swapping places, thus awarding another family in the much desired Hall Of Fame.

Siyahsancak and Gambino launch a strike versus Guardians, while about an hour later Marazzino is hitting Corvus and Rivera.

What's noticable is that this afternoon a top from the Siyahsancak family made a statement and I quote "Don't worry, there will be no war between us. We are a Packt and the competition will be go between us." How will this affect their very foundation of trust? Only time will tell.
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Birader (Siyahsancak): Yes, this war has begun BECAUSE, at the beginning of the version we did an agreement that position #1 family will bu supported and vouchers will be shared. At the end of the version, position #1 family was WE and until that moment we have saved Rivera, Guardians and Republic. We did backups. We prevented lots of war etc.

Lots of plans have been made for the last war, but for every plan there were someone who rejects it. Anyway, the last war has formed and the version is finished. Then, as we were #1, we have to be supported but Guardians did equivocations and they said that they wanna join the competition.

As pact, we agreed that every fam would take their asone’s members and the version will over whoever will #1. If someone doesn’t comply the agreement, there will be a war against them. The guarantor of it was Marazzino.

Guardians took the members of their asones, but they still couldn’t pass us. Then they did some “games” to be #1 like “he was our ex-member” , “she is my girlfriend”, “He prefer to come to our fam”… We warned Guardians again. But their attempt to taking members from Rivera, Republic and Corvus was not something tolerateable.

Nevertheless, I didn’t think war is a good idea because I wanted to win the version, not to lose. But I realized that Guardians has never obey any rule or agreement, on the contrary they took lots of members from outside. We tried to talk with Laving but he said he don’t deal with those issues anymore. Mafiaturk said same. Then when I talked with Pupale, all I had see was “lie” and “hate”. We couldn’t find a solution because we couldn’t even discuss the problem.

And the last day caliente’s shot to Ohana made things harder. Because Caliente was a fam that under control of Guardians. And today Lionsgate’s down by Guardians cannot be accepted too.
This war’s reasons are lie, betrayal, insubordination and non-complied agreements by Guardians and their attempt to make us in a sucker situation.
All families’ bosses and our friends are witness of all of those issues.
Good Luck Everyone.

Kapow (Guardians): Birader said it so it must be true.


Pupale (Guardians): We started this version without any ambition to win any hof we just gathered fams who were tired of dying or getting played by siberia or anarchy side - Guardians, Republic, Corvus, Rivera, Ferocia and we all agreed to stick together don’t take bloods outside our circle and play against those 2 sides, Corvus and Rivera already had made some bloods outside of the circle so they said they just want to blood us and not be a pact which we agreed on and so it all started.
Ferocia asked us Guardians to don’t shoot Gambino this version and we gave our word to Ferocia that we wont shoot them .
I want to note that Siyansancak family was a sidekick family of Ferocia and Ferocia asked for insurance that we wont shoot them so we gave our word to them (Even Ferocia came to Guardians asking to make channel together with us just so Siyahsancak feels safe ).
We achieved our goal the moment all our enemy’s went down and we are very proud of it .
After the last war with last standing enemy’s (Colossal Bosphorus) instead of constructive talks about closing version only offers, treats and pressure came from all sides to step back and in other many well packaged words to leave easy hof to Siyahsancak but we knew they made pussy play which means didn’t deserve it and we didn’t step back .
I want to give a final thank to all our members( Including Liberta, GCT, Akincilar ) and outside friends (; for job well done this version we did a terrific job we are proud of you all for making this big effort _o_
Last but not least BIG respect to Republic, Corvus and Rivera tops and members for not leaving us alone even when we die and prove everyone what a real bloods means. They know they can expect same for us anytime. And thanks to Ohana for cooperation even though our ways crossed at some point.
Ps: All are expected to report at Reset and you know where to find us o/
Ps1: If bitches lie, cry, deny any of this i got logs screenshots whatsapp chats to prove it :P

lavi\zZz (guardians):First of all, i might write a long statement because i will answer whatever is written and will add up more.

-This war happened because some people just wanted that way.We didnt make any agreement about star in the beginning of version.When I was talking to siyah about playing together, only thing that was said to me was : "we cant shoot anarchy but we can shoot their bloods with you if needed". I said okay then. Np we will arrange something. Nothing less nothing more. No aggrement about star. Plus even if they mentioned star, i would just say, hey its too early to talk about it yet, lets just see what will happen first.

-Lots of plans were made for the last war and most of them were cancelled because of siyah. Because after they said they cant shoot anarchy in beginning, they also said" we have nonshooting with colossal and bosphorus" in the middle and through the end of the game.(Basicly They had 3 nonshooting agreement with 3 big fams out of 5 big fams except our side.) . "So we cant shoot them eithe"r. Everyone was like wtf. After phoenix war, they said they have nonshootings with them . But 2 days before colossal/bosphorus war, they said we have been blooods with colossal for 2 weeks already.So suddeny all nonshooting agreemnts turned in to a bloodship all of a sudden without our knowledge. 2 weeks and they hided it, and even after phoenix war when i asked them especially and personally if they were bloods with colossal, they said no we have nonshooting but we will shoot colossal if it will end the version.(Dont say lie, got logs.)Then we started to plan on colossal bosphorus and they started to whine like oh we cant shoot colossal because we are bloods with colossal for 2 weeks already.( 2 different speech in 3 days.) So all the plans were cancelled and ferocia offered to add gambino to shoot colossal together if we give them guarantee for not killing them. So by trusting ferocia/marazzino,we promised them not to shoot them for ferocia's relations.

-When siyahsancak contacted me about the HoF for the first time after colossal war, i was "ordered" to give them 2-3 brugs because as they said ferocia was being asshole and gonna recruit lionsgate. I said "no, not giving my brugs to anyone. I personally dont care about hof but need to talk to others." 15 mins after that birader called me and said noone will recruit from others except as1s. I said ok i will talk. and 30 mins after birader's call, siyahsancak asked ohana to give them brugs. And also asked osmanli the same. They might deny everything. But there is only 1 truth :) When they are denied by both of fams, they understood they cant recruit from others so they also pushed for not recruiting from others since they cant do it . But then they started to steal fero ppl in lionsgate and some (4) gambino people. And stll they were claiiming them as their members. They claimed anarchy members as their members out of desperation:') Also got proofs for that. So when they do it all , i was kinda tired with listening them and i said i wont deal with such a thing. everyone does whatever he wants. so lets open the gates for eveeryone. Then when some people offered us to help since they thought we deserve, we didnt turn them down.
-When i talked to their tops, all i saw were lies also about colossal blood thing etc. But i didnt use them to make excuses to shoot them. Yeah i could but as i told to other people, we didnt wanna be the backstabber one for a hof. They can do it, they can shoot us, its possible, so let them do it. They can live with that. We cant. And meanwhile we also denied the offers for shooting gambino as well because of the word we gave to ferocia.

-And about Caliente thing. They are just paranoiac to create such a reason. If i wanted caliente to harm siyah, i would tell them to shoot siyah. Did i ? (why would they even listen to me even if i asked them that)Ask any of them. All i said to caliente, noone will shoot you as long as you dont shoot anyone. But if u decide to shoot someone, i cant protect you either. They were ok, didnt expect anything and they are big family enough to decide things on their own. Caliente wasnt under control of guardians. Guardians gave their word for caliente .and when they shot on ohana, Guardians didnt even protect them. I was peronally the first one to jump in to Vindicta 's pm :') And also meanwhile ohana's blood siyah was going offline to keep their #1 and avoid any lose while some of guardians ppl were dying eventhough we werent bloods with ohana.so stop being paranoiac.
And same terms for caliente was also with gambino- ferocia. In normal conditions, when maraz wanted us to keep gambino alive, and when gambino shot some of us, maraz should have shot gambino due to our aggrement. But instead they made plans with gambino and became the bridge between siyah and gambino.


and yes only maraz and siyah are witnessses of these things, noone else. But its not suprising that they would confirm each other since they made this plan together.Wwe have a saying in Turkish " siracinin sahidi bozacidir." which means the blind leading the blind .

we had chances and enough power to shoot gambino or siyahsancak in last 1 week.But we didnt because of the words we gave to ferocia and didnt wanna backstab someone who we played with us for a version and shot alongside, just for a fucking star.

p.s: They can also make excuse like you killed our 6chief+ in that day so we returned the fire. I already told them, if someone from guardians shooting siyahsancak without any permission, kill those shooters. "Witnesses? I have many of them."

Excuses are for the ones who seek it. I dont need any excuse. We might die. Personally i feel in peace even when i died, for not backstabbing anyone. Now people know what they would do for a hof, and what we wouldnt do even for a hof
And still thanks to everyone who played with us whole version.and also thanks to everyone who shot us [ sorry for not making nonshooting with ya guys and being a target :( ] or we shot.


and the people who know me, also know that i am not lying about any of these.As they said, i have witnesses but not from 1 fam only. From every fam. :')
As the last word thanks again and have fun
And also Merton For President.
Sorry for long post. Should give a potato? :')
statistics
War started on: 16:37:03 16-02-2016 War ended on: 22:56:04 18-02-2016
Bullet difference: -32,239,771 War duration: 2d 6h 19m
Money difference: -$3,010,407,377 Players died: 234




deaths
Dead Families:
[Rivera] Family down on 19:30 18-02
[Guardians] Family down on 17:58 18-02
[Corvus] Family down on 22:41 16-02
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Corvus | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 5 | brug: 5 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 167
Gambino | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 162
Guardians | swin: 14 | assa: 3 | lc: 9 | chief: 13 | brug: 47 | cd: 5 | gf: 3 | points: 1,007
Marazzino | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 25
Rivera | swin: 1 | assa: 3 | lc: 3 | chief: 5 | brug: 24 | cd: 0 | gf: 3 | points: 481
Siyahsancak | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 4 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 178
Total | swin: 18 | assa: 7 | lc: 13 | chief: 29 | brug: 98 | cd: 7 | gf: 7 | points: 2,020
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lolollddd (00:27:56 - 17-02)
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MurderInc at 00:26:30 on 17/02:
It's always a pleasure to see conspiracy nutjobs getting pwned.

If only it weren't for the other conspiracy nutjobs who now claim admins support the other side ...


when i see you talking here i just log in to check gambino fam page
MurderInc Austria (00:26:30 - 17-02)
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It's always a pleasure to see conspiracy nutjobs getting pwned.

If only it weren't for the other conspiracy nutjobs who now claim admins support the other side ...
Anonymous (00:13:24 - 17-02)
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No hof for guardians :)

Poor laviszzz sh whole day ^^
localgimpi (23:34:26 - 16-02)
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The "pact" that killed you is broken, now let's all take a minute to call it stabbing etc! Oh wait, I see you're already going at full speed 8)
Crackajack United States (23:25:51 - 16-02)
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Live by the pact die by the pact

Rip Bruce

Hi Aart
Toby's evil Twin (23:14:55 - 16-02)
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Whilst it may not be the best result for my family, this war was needed.This version I have reached brug and a 60% + chief (due to me picking assosiate for some unknown reason). A friend made brug twice. You can rerank if you want to and this break up back stab or whst ever you want to call it is good. Hopefully the next version will be even more exciting than the close of this one. It has been shown that the two groups can be matched and hopefully a fourth or even fifth group can get together and mix shit up!

Love 'n'stuff
Merton Xxx
mmm Netherlands (23:08:13 - 16-02)
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Johnny at 23:01:00 on 16/02:
mmm at 22:48:31 on 16/02:
If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.

That's right and that should be purpose of ROM. However reset shouldn't happen before every other option for prolonging version is not viable. Just cause bunch of people died and don't see point in reranking doesn't mean it should stop family who is still alive and has real chances to win and make different ending for them or some other families from achieving it or at least trying to make their plans happen.

This game didn't need ROM for ages, and it didn't need voting to say when reset is needed. Now for anyone who played this game in 2.x versions think that game should reset before Guardians and Siyahsancak finish their war and clear winner of it is known is probably member of family (or families) that will not survive that war. There's is total of 0 reason to reset or announce reset during ongoing war, especially in a month long version. Surely people can wait for 1 more week to get so desired reset if they wish to play next version.

If you would announce winner and reset in war that is pretty much version deciding, it would be disrespectful to all players who played this version. It would show that admins who are in charge game and version don't really care about game events. It wouldn't surprise me if that happens but it would be another defeat for dying game.

That's exactly why the whole rule of the #1 family at the end of a ROM = the winner should just go.
Anonymous (23:03:01 - 16-02)
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Johnny at 23:01:00 on 16/02:
mmm at 22:48:31 on 16/02:
If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.

That's right and that should be purpose of ROM. However reset shouldn't happen before every other option for prolonging version is not viable. Just cause bunch of people died and don't see point in reranking doesn't mean it should stop family who is still alive and has real chances to win and make different ending for them or some other families from achieving it or at least trying to make their plans happen.

This game didn't need ROM for ages, and it didn't need voting to say when reset is needed. Now for anyone who played this game in 2.x versions think that game should reset before Guardians and Siyahsancak finish their war and clear winner of it is known is probably member of family (or families) that will not survive that war. There's is total of 0 reason to reset or announce reset during ongoing war, especially in a month long version. Surely people can wait for 1 more week to get so desired reset if they wish to play next version.

If you would announce winner and reset in war that is pretty much version deciding, it would be disrespectful to all players who played this version. It would show that admins who are in charge game and version don't really care about game events. It wouldn't surprise me if that happens but it would be another defeat for dying game.
you are right
Anonymous (23:01:26 - 16-02)
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MurderInc at 22:59:07 on 16/02:
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MurderInc at 22:52:39 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:48:11 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:44:26 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:37:46 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:35:32 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:31:55 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:26:52 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:16:59 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:11:34 on 16/02:
I don't know about you, but I'm curious to see how the version management will decide on the ROM tomorrow. If they decide to reset, then in theory they would have to give the win to Guardians as long as they don't go down within the next ~2 hours or so[1]. The best approach would probably be to run another ROM till friday and let them finish this war.

Anyway, good to see this war happen. Hopefully certain families can now understand why they were shot in the past for similar acts.

[1]: "The top Family is The Family with the highest 'Family worth' at the moment that the RoM decides a version will be closed."


If rom ends guardians are the winner right?
If ROM ends and Guardians is still up and admins decide that the ROM resulted in a "Yes" vote, then yes, they would technically be the winner. Historically, the threshold for "Yes" was set rather arbitrarily, though. In a case like this, I would imagine (and hope!) the fact that a war is ongoing would be taken into account. That's why I'm curious about the result.
tehnicly you are admin voice,and tehnicly new managment was top of guardians,and tehnicly,they want from you to show public,why guardians need win :D
I'm not in favour of closing the version, I would run another ROM till friday and see who's #1 then. Like, you know, I stated in my first post.

like this situation is happend milion time,and admin need give mroe time for reset,because war is happend... but as dot was top of guardians,it will be not suprise and they can decide and first time change rulles and give guardians win
You see conspiracies everywhere, don't you? No one gives a fuck about old family ties on an online RPG when your job and income is on the line This is not the first version Guardians exists, and it's not the first version Dot is in a position of power. How was this not a thing before? You people just need something to cry about, no matter how far-fetched it is.

no i see theory only when you come with bullshit story some hours before reset..Guardians was shit fam last 5 years,and now when their top join managment ,guardians worth 1 night before reset up 1000 poen :D so i hope miracle wont happend,but you are god voise :D
You didn't even understand my "bullshit story", which clearly says I'm in favour of NOT deciding the version based on the current ROM.

Why do I even argue ...
well it was same when siberia kill marazzino, 1 days before reset... and aeterna was shoot for win last hour of reset... whats happend then? siberia aeterna take win,so ofc now maraz or Siyahsancak will take win... so i really dont no why you have theory like this
Read my original post. Then read it again. Focus on the HOF rule I quoted. Then think about the difference between the current situation and the Sib/Maraz and Aeterna versions. Hint: it involves the exact timing of the ROM ending, and the question of which fams were up at the time it ended. Now you either understand my point, or you need medical assistance.
i hope you will be right,and guard take win...then new managment need left game much faster then bramble did :D so it will be chance for neutral ppl join as managment,and this game can start recover and grow up
Johnny Serbia (23:01:00 - 16-02)
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mmm at 22:48:31 on 16/02:
If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.

That's right and that should be purpose of ROM. However reset shouldn't happen before every other option for prolonging version is not viable. Just cause bunch of people died and don't see point in reranking doesn't mean it should stop family who is still alive and has real chances to win and make different ending for them or some other families from achieving it or at least trying to make their plans happen.

This game didn't need ROM for ages, and it didn't need voting to say when reset is needed. Now for anyone who played this game in 2.x versions think that game should reset before Guardians and Siyahsancak finish their war and clear winner of it is known is probably member of family (or families) that will not survive that war. There's is total of 0 reason to reset or announce reset during ongoing war, especially in a month long version. Surely people can wait for 1 more week to get so desired reset if they wish to play next version.

If you would announce winner and reset in war that is pretty much version deciding, it would be disrespectful to all players who played this version. It would show that admins who are in charge game and version don't really care about game events. It wouldn't surprise me if that happens but it would be another defeat for dying game.
Anonymous (23:00:57 - 16-02)
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still 1 hour left go go siyah!
Anonymous (23:00:10 - 16-02)
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mmm at 22:53:50 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:50:53 on 16/02:
mmm at 22:48:31 on 16/02:
If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.

war is happend and need finish,they we can see who is real winner :D

You clearly didn't read a word of what I just sayd.

said* FTFY
MurderInc Austria (22:59:07 - 16-02)
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Anonymous at 22:55:41 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:52:39 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:48:11 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:44:26 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:37:46 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:35:32 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:31:55 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:26:52 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:16:59 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:11:34 on 16/02:
I don't know about you, but I'm curious to see how the version management will decide on the ROM tomorrow. If they decide to reset, then in theory they would have to give the win to Guardians as long as they don't go down within the next ~2 hours or so[1]. The best approach would probably be to run another ROM till friday and let them finish this war.

Anyway, good to see this war happen. Hopefully certain families can now understand why they were shot in the past for similar acts.

[1]: "The top Family is The Family with the highest 'Family worth' at the moment that the RoM decides a version will be closed."


If rom ends guardians are the winner right?
If ROM ends and Guardians is still up and admins decide that the ROM resulted in a "Yes" vote, then yes, they would technically be the winner. Historically, the threshold for "Yes" was set rather arbitrarily, though. In a case like this, I would imagine (and hope!) the fact that a war is ongoing would be taken into account. That's why I'm curious about the result.
tehnicly you are admin voice,and tehnicly new managment was top of guardians,and tehnicly,they want from you to show public,why guardians need win :D
I'm not in favour of closing the version, I would run another ROM till friday and see who's #1 then. Like, you know, I stated in my first post.

like this situation is happend milion time,and admin need give mroe time for reset,because war is happend... but as dot was top of guardians,it will be not suprise and they can decide and first time change rulles and give guardians win
You see conspiracies everywhere, don't you? No one gives a fuck about old family ties on an online RPG when your job and income is on the line This is not the first version Guardians exists, and it's not the first version Dot is in a position of power. How was this not a thing before? You people just need something to cry about, no matter how far-fetched it is.

no i see theory only when you come with bullshit story some hours before reset..Guardians was shit fam last 5 years,and now when their top join managment ,guardians worth 1 night before reset up 1000 poen :D so i hope miracle wont happend,but you are god voise :D
You didn't even understand my "bullshit story", which clearly says I'm in favour of NOT deciding the version based on the current ROM.

Why do I even argue ...
well it was same when siberia kill marazzino, 1 days before reset... and aeterna was shoot for win last hour of reset... whats happend then? siberia aeterna take win,so ofc now maraz or Siyahsancak will take win... so i really dont no why you have theory like this
Read my original post. Then read it again. Focus on the HOF rule I quoted. Then think about the difference between the current situation and the Sib/Maraz and Aeterna versions. Hint: it involves the exact timing of the ROM ending, and the question of which fams were up at the time it ended. Now you either understand my point, or you need medical assistance.
Anonymous (22:55:41 - 16-02)
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MurderInc at 22:52:39 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:48:11 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:44:26 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:37:46 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:35:32 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:31:55 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:26:52 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:16:59 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:11:34 on 16/02:
I don't know about you, but I'm curious to see how the version management will decide on the ROM tomorrow. If they decide to reset, then in theory they would have to give the win to Guardians as long as they don't go down within the next ~2 hours or so[1]. The best approach would probably be to run another ROM till friday and let them finish this war.

Anyway, good to see this war happen. Hopefully certain families can now understand why they were shot in the past for similar acts.

[1]: "The top Family is The Family with the highest 'Family worth' at the moment that the RoM decides a version will be closed."


If rom ends guardians are the winner right?
If ROM ends and Guardians is still up and admins decide that the ROM resulted in a "Yes" vote, then yes, they would technically be the winner. Historically, the threshold for "Yes" was set rather arbitrarily, though. In a case like this, I would imagine (and hope!) the fact that a war is ongoing would be taken into account. That's why I'm curious about the result.
tehnicly you are admin voice,and tehnicly new managment was top of guardians,and tehnicly,they want from you to show public,why guardians need win :D
I'm not in favour of closing the version, I would run another ROM till friday and see who's #1 then. Like, you know, I stated in my first post.

like this situation is happend milion time,and admin need give mroe time for reset,because war is happend... but as dot was top of guardians,it will be not suprise and they can decide and first time change rulles and give guardians win
You see conspiracies everywhere, don't you? No one gives a fuck about old family ties on an online RPG when your job and income is on the line This is not the first version Guardians exists, and it's not the first version Dot is in a position of power. How was this not a thing before? You people just need something to cry about, no matter how far-fetched it is.

no i see theory only when you come with bullshit story some hours before reset..Guardians was shit fam last 5 years,and now when their top join managment ,guardians worth 1 night before reset up 1000 poen :D so i hope miracle wont happend,but you are god voise :D
You didn't even understand my "bullshit story", which clearly says I'm in favour of NOT deciding the version based on the current ROM.

Why do I even argue ...
well it was same when siberia kill marazzino, 1 days before reset... and aeterna was shoot for win last hour of reset... whats happend then? siberia aeterna take win,so ofc now maraz or Siyahsancak will take win... so i really dont no why you have theory like this
mmm Netherlands (22:53:50 - 16-02)
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Anonymous at 22:50:53 on 16/02:
mmm at 22:48:31 on 16/02:
If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.

war is happend and need finish,they we can see who is real winner :D

You clearly didn't read a word of what I just sayd.
MurderInc Austria (22:52:39 - 16-02)
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MurderInc at 22:44:26 on 16/02:
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MurderInc at 22:35:32 on 16/02:
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MurderInc at 22:26:52 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:16:59 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:11:34 on 16/02:
I don't know about you, but I'm curious to see how the version management will decide on the ROM tomorrow. If they decide to reset, then in theory they would have to give the win to Guardians as long as they don't go down within the next ~2 hours or so[1]. The best approach would probably be to run another ROM till friday and let them finish this war.

Anyway, good to see this war happen. Hopefully certain families can now understand why they were shot in the past for similar acts.

[1]: "The top Family is The Family with the highest 'Family worth' at the moment that the RoM decides a version will be closed."


If rom ends guardians are the winner right?
If ROM ends and Guardians is still up and admins decide that the ROM resulted in a "Yes" vote, then yes, they would technically be the winner. Historically, the threshold for "Yes" was set rather arbitrarily, though. In a case like this, I would imagine (and hope!) the fact that a war is ongoing would be taken into account. That's why I'm curious about the result.
tehnicly you are admin voice,and tehnicly new managment was top of guardians,and tehnicly,they want from you to show public,why guardians need win :D
I'm not in favour of closing the version, I would run another ROM till friday and see who's #1 then. Like, you know, I stated in my first post.

like this situation is happend milion time,and admin need give mroe time for reset,because war is happend... but as dot was top of guardians,it will be not suprise and they can decide and first time change rulles and give guardians win
You see conspiracies everywhere, don't you? No one gives a fuck about old family ties on an online RPG when your job and income is on the line This is not the first version Guardians exists, and it's not the first version Dot is in a position of power. How was this not a thing before? You people just need something to cry about, no matter how far-fetched it is.

no i see theory only when you come with bullshit story some hours before reset..Guardians was shit fam last 5 years,and now when their top join managment ,guardians worth 1 night before reset up 1000 poen :D so i hope miracle wont happend,but you are god voise :D
You didn't even understand my "bullshit story", which clearly says I'm in favour of NOT deciding the version based on the current ROM.

Why do I even argue ...
Anonymous (22:50:53 - 16-02)
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mmm at 22:48:31 on 16/02:
If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.

war is happend and need finish,they we can see who is real winner :D
mmm Netherlands (22:48:31 - 16-02)
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If we are to look at it from a basic point of view, the whole purpose of a ROM is to decide whether a reset is needed or not, NOT to determine who will win a spot in the hall of fame. The end result of the ROM is sufficient enough for admins to push the button as they have done so in the past. If they do decide to have another ROM going, the whole purpose of the ROM has become irrelevant. It's not just the existing families voting on a ROM, it's everybody. You can't just deny everybody's wishes to reset just because some families got pissed off about today's statistics update.

But that's my opinion.
Anonymous (22:48:11 - 16-02)
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MurderInc at 22:44:26 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:37:46 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:35:32 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:31:55 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:26:52 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:16:59 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:11:34 on 16/02:
I don't know about you, but I'm curious to see how the version management will decide on the ROM tomorrow. If they decide to reset, then in theory they would have to give the win to Guardians as long as they don't go down within the next ~2 hours or so[1]. The best approach would probably be to run another ROM till friday and let them finish this war.

Anyway, good to see this war happen. Hopefully certain families can now understand why they were shot in the past for similar acts.

[1]: "The top Family is The Family with the highest 'Family worth' at the moment that the RoM decides a version will be closed."


If rom ends guardians are the winner right?
If ROM ends and Guardians is still up and admins decide that the ROM resulted in a "Yes" vote, then yes, they would technically be the winner. Historically, the threshold for "Yes" was set rather arbitrarily, though. In a case like this, I would imagine (and hope!) the fact that a war is ongoing would be taken into account. That's why I'm curious about the result.
tehnicly you are admin voice,and tehnicly new managment was top of guardians,and tehnicly,they want from you to show public,why guardians need win :D
I'm not in favour of closing the version, I would run another ROM till friday and see who's #1 then. Like, you know, I stated in my first post.

like this situation is happend milion time,and admin need give mroe time for reset,because war is happend... but as dot was top of guardians,it will be not suprise and they can decide and first time change rulles and give guardians win
You see conspiracies everywhere, don't you? No one gives a fuck about old family ties on an online RPG when your job and income is on the line This is not the first version Guardians exists, and it's not the first version Dot is in a position of power. How was this not a thing before? You people just need something to cry about, no matter how far-fetched it is.

no i see theory only when you come with bullshit story some hours before reset..Guardians was shit fam last 5 years,and now when their top join managment ,guardians worth 1 night before reset up 1000 poen :D so i hope miracle wont happend,but you are god voise :D
MurderInc Austria (22:44:26 - 16-02)
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Anonymous at 22:37:46 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:35:32 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:31:55 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:26:52 on 16/02:
Anonymous at 22:16:59 on 16/02:
MurderInc at 22:11:34 on 16/02:
I don't know about you, but I'm curious to see how the version management will decide on the ROM tomorrow. If they decide to reset, then in theory they would have to give the win to Guardians as long as they don't go down within the next ~2 hours or so[1]. The best approach would probably be to run another ROM till friday and let them finish this war.

Anyway, good to see this war happen. Hopefully certain families can now understand why they were shot in the past for similar acts.

[1]: "The top Family is The Family with the highest 'Family worth' at the moment that the RoM decides a version will be closed."


If rom ends guardians are the winner right?
If ROM ends and Guardians is still up and admins decide that the ROM resulted in a "Yes" vote, then yes, they would technically be the winner. Historically, the threshold for "Yes" was set rather arbitrarily, though. In a case like this, I would imagine (and hope!) the fact that a war is ongoing would be taken into account. That's why I'm curious about the result.
tehnicly you are admin voice,and tehnicly new managment was top of guardians,and tehnicly,they want from you to show public,why guardians need win :D
I'm not in favour of closing the version, I would run another ROM till friday and see who's #1 then. Like, you know, I stated in my first post.

like this situation is happend milion time,and admin need give mroe time for reset,because war is happend... but as dot was top of guardians,it will be not suprise and they can decide and first time change rulles and give guardians win
You see conspiracies everywhere, don't you? No one gives a fuck about old family ties on an online RPG when your job and income is on the line This is not the first version Guardians exists, and it's not the first version Dot is in a position of power. How was this not a thing before? You people just need something to cry about, no matter how far-fetched it is.