OB News - 08-10 Return of the admins

Anonymous (11:14:17 - 09-10)

Anonymous at 08:46:35 on 09/10:

Anonymous at 02:16:37 on 09/10:

bruce at 01:30:49 on 09/10:

Anonymous at 22:36:14 on 08/10:
The only question is did they cheat or not?
Having like 100k+ bo doesn't prove anything, yeah they were extremely quick local chief but how do they cheated then (bugs, scripting or did they share and let multiple people play and bust on 1 account) and did admins tell them what they were akilled for.

It's all easy to laugh about people getting akilled, but that doesn't give us answers, same as we didn't received an answer last version with Bruce.

I'm against cheating 100%, but what did they actually do i'm curious, what did they do wrong? (except from ranking so exremely fast that people get suspicius, what exactly was their cheating? if they did it at all).

Bruce was killed for sharing if i remember correctly (i'm not saying he actually shared just that admins gave that reason), these akills were for the same reason? not only bigdaddy/fakelover but also okei shared?

Okey, here is the deal. http://hizliresim.com/8Qk95Q. Last version, me and my group was outranking everyone, by the time we got akilled we were stand #1 #2 and #3(Gabriel, Luffy, Castiel). Since even i dont know the details or havent seen or heard any proof about akills, lets keep the conclusion of admins and make assumptions basic on their inference which was sharing. Most importantly, i believe every single one of you know that it is impossible to get help via TV when it comes to busting so that is out. Scripts arent that fast when it comes to busting so that cant be it too. Since i dont ve anyone else(my own real life lackey "Alfred" tho THAT COULD BE SUPER COOL :r) to help me to bust while i was sleeping(that's a bit tricky hard to believe but still). Besides if i had someone then i'm sure i'd be way faster than i was, means that those two rankers Fakelover and Bigdaddy wouldn't able to show me slow or outranking me, if you check statistics you can easily see the difference) :). then again that wasnt the reason why we akilled back at then. Also they didnt akilled "Luffy" who had more bos than me. Last of all(that's the best part) they told us that we were sharing with Crackajack and Murderinc(who get revive later on).

First of all thanks for responding, I believe you Bruce i was only trying to write a text about transparency from the admins in these matters, they seem just like yours random (only because so far ahead). Scripts can't have done that amount of bust uts we alle know that, only option is sharing in real life (since tv bustingwon't be that quick), the question remains if that is the case how can they proof that?

I believe so fast ranking can be done, sell lot of dc's for buy out + early ray speciallvl 10 makes it easily possible to get 100k+ bo, yes you will have to rank and bust no life but it can be donewithout cheating.

+1

This is spot on. People cheat, no doubt about it. Some People who has been akilled has been clean. It is impossible to prove irl sharing, you can look at the online patterns and at some point say; "ok, it's not possible to be online for 6 days straight without sleep".
The real problem is how this is adressed by the admins. No reason given (often) and the community doesn't really have a Clue to if it's legit or not when a gamechanging account is killed.
If admins are Judge, jury and executioner, then they should atleast have to inform the community as to why they have killed these top accounts (and the Family). A reason to how they got to the conclusion that they cheated would change everything.
If there would have been made room for an explanation like that, either on OBN or the forum, I think People would calm Down around the a-kills. Sure People will argue, but atleast the reasoning will be out there so that a decent debate can happen, and not just jibberish.

Solstice (09:44:28 - 09-10)

Bosco at 09:39:55 on 09/10:

Anonymous at 07:54:27 on 09/10:

Bosco at 05:57:08 on 09/10:
Just cap acc strength from Bo's.

Makes no sense anyway and it would probably end this madness. And perhaps make the game even more attractive.

Yes make it even easier for suiciders, more great ideas?

Maybe you should ask yourself why these people suicide. Suiciding is an option you can use it has been an option for 10 years stop whining about it... Perhaps they suicide because it is impossible to kill the overpowered accounts later on???? Giving the blame to suiciders is just ignorant

If you wanted to suicide in the past you'd have to put in the work. Nowadays you just turn on your lackeys, turn on sluggs. Work up to 60k, kill account of someone that invested a shitload of time. I'm fine with suiciding tbh, but not with the way it's set up now. I think for you to be able to suicide you should have put in atleast something close to the hours of the man you're trying to kill.

Bosco

(09:39:55 - 09-10)

Anonymous at 07:54:27 on 09/10:

Bosco at 05:57:08 on 09/10:
Just cap acc strength from Bo's.

Makes no sense anyway and it would probably end this madness. And perhaps make the game even more attractive.

Yes make it even easier for suiciders, more great ideas?

Maybe you should ask yourself why these people suicide. Suiciding is an option you can use it has been an option for 10 years stop whining about it... Perhaps they suicide because it is impossible to kill the overpowered accounts later on???? Giving the blame to suiciders is just ignorant

Solstice (09:35:36 - 09-10)

Bosco at 05:57:08 on 09/10:
Just cap acc strength from Bo's.

Makes no sense anyway and it would probably end this madness. And perhaps make the game even more attractive.

You'd need a whole lot of other stuff to make this game attractive again. Basically the only things people do these days are busts and group crimes. Eliminating 1 of 2 options that can help you make a difference to your account, without spending 300 euro's on dc's isn't something i would do at this time. Instead i'd look for more stuff to differentiate from lackey-only players. If you've got 5/6 options to strengthen your account busting won't be so overpowered anymore.

Anonymous (08:46:35 - 09-10)

Anonymous at 02:16:37 on 09/10:

bruce at 01:30:49 on 09/10:

Anonymous at 22:36:14 on 08/10:
The only question is did they cheat or not?
Having like 100k+ bo doesn't prove anything, yeah they were extremely quick local chief but how do they cheated then (bugs, scripting or did they share and let multiple people play and bust on 1 account) and did admins tell them what they were akilled for.

It's all easy to laugh about people getting akilled, but that doesn't give us answers, same as we didn't received an answer last version with Bruce.

I'm against cheating 100%, but what did they actually do i'm curious, what did they do wrong? (except from ranking so exremely fast that people get suspicius, what exactly was their cheating? if they did it at all).

Bruce was killed for sharing if i remember correctly (i'm not saying he actually shared just that admins gave that reason), these akills were for the same reason? not only bigdaddy/fakelover but also okei shared?

Okey, here is the deal. http://hizliresim.com/8Qk95Q. Last version, me and my group was outranking everyone, by the time we got akilled we were stand #1 #2 and #3(Gabriel, Luffy, Castiel). Since even i dont know the details or havent seen or heard any proof about akills, lets keep the conclusion of admins and make assumptions basic on their inference which was sharing. Most importantly, i believe every single one of you know that it is impossible to get help via TV when it comes to busting so that is out. Scripts arent that fast when it comes to busting so that cant be it too. Since i dont ve anyone else(my own real life lackey "Alfred" tho THAT COULD BE SUPER COOL :r) to help me to bust while i was sleeping(that's a bit tricky hard to believe but still). Besides if i had someone then i'm sure i'd be way faster than i was, means that those two rankers Fakelover and Bigdaddy wouldn't able to show me slow or outranking me, if you check statistics you can easily see the difference) :). then again that wasnt the reason why we akilled back at then. Also they didnt akilled "Luffy" who had more bos than me. Last of all(that's the best part) they told us that we were sharing with Crackajack and Murderinc(who get revive later on).

First of all thanks for responding, I believe you Bruce i was only trying to write a text about transparency from the admins in these matters, they seem just like yours random (only because so far ahead). Scripts can't have done that amount of bust uts we alle know that, only option is sharing in real life (since tv bustingwon't be that quick), the question remains if that is the case how can they proof that?

I believe so fast ranking can be done, sell lot of dc's for buy out + early ray speciallvl 10 makes it easily possible to get 100k+ bo, yes you will have to rank and bust no life but it can be donewithout cheating.

+1

Anonymous (07:54:27 - 09-10)

Bosco at 05:57:08 on 09/10:
Just cap acc strength from Bo's.

Makes no sense anyway and it would probably end this madness. And perhaps make the game even more attractive.

Yes make it even easier for suiciders, more great ideas?

Bosco

(05:57:08 - 09-10)

Just cap acc strength from Bo's.

Makes no sense anyway and it would probably end this madness. And perhaps make the game even more attractive.

Anonymous (02:16:37 - 09-10)

bruce at 01:30:49 on 09/10:

Anonymous at 22:36:14 on 08/10:
The only question is did they cheat or not?
Having like 100k+ bo doesn't prove anything, yeah they were extremely quick local chief but how do they cheated then (bugs, scripting or did they share and let multiple people play and bust on 1 account) and did admins tell them what they were akilled for.

It's all easy to laugh about people getting akilled, but that doesn't give us answers, same as we didn't received an answer last version with Bruce.

I'm against cheating 100%, but what did they actually do i'm curious, what did they do wrong? (except from ranking so exremely fast that people get suspicius, what exactly was their cheating? if they did it at all).

Bruce was killed for sharing if i remember correctly (i'm not saying he actually shared just that admins gave that reason), these akills were for the same reason? not only bigdaddy/fakelover but also okei shared?

Okey, here is the deal. http://hizliresim.com/8Qk95Q. Last version, me and my group was outranking everyone, by the time we got akilled we were stand #1 #2 and #3(Gabriel, Luffy, Castiel). Since even i dont know the details or havent seen or heard any proof about akills, lets keep the conclusion of admins and make assumptions basic on their inference which was sharing. Most importantly, i believe every single one of you know that it is impossible to get help via TV when it comes to busting so that is out. Scripts arent that fast when it comes to busting so that cant be it too. Since i dont ve anyone else(my own real life lackey "Alfred" tho THAT COULD BE SUPER COOL :r) to help me to bust while i was sleeping(that's a bit tricky hard to believe but still). Besides if i had someone then i'm sure i'd be way faster than i was, means that those two rankers Fakelover and Bigdaddy wouldn't able to show me slow or outranking me, if you check statistics you can easily see the difference) :). then again that wasnt the reason why we akilled back at then. Also they didnt akilled "Luffy" who had more bos than me. Last of all(that's the best part) they told us that we were sharing with Crackajack and Murderinc(who get revive later on).

First of all thanks for responding, I believe you Bruce i was only trying to write a text about transparency from the admins in these matters, they seem just like yours random (only because so far ahead). Scripts can't have done that amount of bust uts we alle know that, only option is sharing in real life (since tv bustingwon't be that quick), the question remains if that is the case how can they proof that?

I believe so fast ranking can be done, sell lot of dc's for buy out + early ray speciallvl 10 makes it easily possible to get 100k+ bo, yes you will have to rank and bust no life but it can be donewithout cheating.

bruce

(01:30:49 - 09-10)

Anonymous at 22:36:14 on 08/10:
The only question is did they cheat or not?
Having like 100k+ bo doesn't prove anything, yeah they were extremely quick local chief but how do they cheated then (bugs, scripting or did they share and let multiple people play and bust on 1 account) and did admins tell them what they were akilled for.

It's all easy to laugh about people getting akilled, but that doesn't give us answers, same as we didn't received an answer last version with Bruce.

I'm against cheating 100%, but what did they actually do i'm curious, what did they do wrong? (except from ranking so exremely fast that people get suspicius, what exactly was their cheating? if they did it at all).

Bruce was killed for sharing if i remember correctly (i'm not saying he actually shared just that admins gave that reason), these akills were for the same reason? not only bigdaddy/fakelover but also okei shared?

Okey, here is the deal. http://hizliresim.com/8Qk95Q. Last version, me and my group was outranking everyone, by the time we got akilled we were stand #1 #2 and #3(Gabriel, Luffy, Castiel). Since even i dont know the details or havent seen or heard any proof about akills, lets keep the conclusion of admins and make assumptions basic on their inference which was sharing. Most importantly, i believe every single one of you know that it is impossible to get help via TV when it comes to busting so that is out. Scripts arent that fast when it comes to busting so that cant be it too. Since i dont ve anyone else(my own real life lackey "Alfred" tho THAT COULD BE SUPER COOL :r) to help me to bust while i was sleeping(that's a bit tricky hard to believe but still). Besides if i had someone then i'm sure i'd be way faster than i was, means that those two rankers Fakelover and Bigdaddy wouldn't able to show me slow or outranking me, if you check statistics you can easily see the difference) :). then again that wasnt the reason why we akilled back at then. Also they didnt akilled "Luffy" who had more bos than me. Last of all(that's the best part) they told us that we were sharing with Crackajack and Murderinc(who get revive later on).

Terencio

(23:37:24 - 08-10)

Aart at 20:54:32 on 08/10:
Terencio shit report.
I dont have an account so add the fams pls;( browsing all deaths is so time consuming for an old man.

Done Master Aart.

Anonymous (22:36:14 - 08-10)

The only question is did they cheat or not?
Having like 100k+ bo doesn't prove anything, yeah they were extremely quick local chief but how do they cheated then (bugs, scripting or did they share and let multiple people play and bust on 1 account) and did admins tell them what they were akilled for.

It's all easy to laugh about people getting akilled, but that doesn't give us answers, same as we didn't received an answer last version with Bruce.

I'm against cheating 100%, but what did they actually do i'm curious, what did they do wrong? (except from ranking so exremely fast that people get suspicius, what exactly was their cheating? if they did it at all).

Bruce was killed for sharing if i remember correctly (i'm not saying he actually shared just that admins gave that reason), these akills were for the same reason? not only bigdaddy/fakelover but also okei shared?

Anonymous (22:17:39 - 08-10)

stop bo rp after 100% and its all ok :)

darklazytologin (21:57:07 - 08-10)

Btw i post on Aarts comment but it was to support ur thoughts maybe first time xd

tunning

(21:46:57 - 08-10)

nice for bigdaddy , now i can die in peace

darklazytologin (21:43:50 - 08-10)

Aart at 20:54:32 on 08/10:
Terencio shit report.
I dont have an account so add the fams pls;( browsing all deaths is so time consuming for an old man.

On topic:

Kcode at 16:38:00 on 08/10:
There are a lot of work going on in the background to improve the state of v4 (COM/NL)

Q: Why "improve" v4 if v5 is allready up and running and supposedly is omerta's future? Basic logic says it is double work (double time) and to be painfully fair, working fast is not really one of the stronger qualities for the omerta devs.
A: We are still beta testing it (answer will not suffice, you've been on this since what.. 4.0?)

Kcode at 16:38:00 on 08/10:
and with that it will also allow admins to have better tools to catch cheaters.

Q: Shouldn't omerta get better (read: unbiased) admins instead of better tools for the admins?
A: lol (answer will suffice)

Kcode at 16:38:00 on 08/10:
It's sad that we have to put so much resources into the anti-cheat measures instead of focusing in creating a better environment and game for all of us

Q: Shouldn't you say that after ten years of cheating gameplay (whether you deny it or not) this ship has (unsuccesfully) sailed? Plus, a better environment and game allready removes the need for cheating (if done properly)
A: <insert here>

Oh and PS: Stop locking ingame threads, it makes you come across like the fuherin (bramble if you didn't get the reference). A forum is supposed to be an open place for discussion. Otherwise develop an ingame sticky board for v5, an intern should be able to code that in 2 weeks.

Since when KCODE became saint of omerta? What kind of hipocrat are u mate? As i remember u were a script owner and u made good money with it. Now u complain about old u. Haha. Accept or not cheating, ssuiciding is part of game. Admins job is develop the game as priority. I believe u had no proof when u AKILLED Bruce and AMAT. Neither u had for JOHNGOTTI or ZIZUS. I dont defence scriptorz or cheaters either. For me it doesnt matter. I look the facts. If u re akilling people to cover ur weakness, that shows you re weak. To create an excuse is easy for admins. When u re under pressure just put all blame on a goat and run away.

For ages omerta needs improvement and changes. But nothing has been changed. If u are putting all blame on users which are cheating, make some serious changes and it ll stop them. If u come and cry about ppl who is cheating and u re trying to stop them; thats because u dont improve the game at all. Else they have to work and find some new bugs in ur new game.

Ps. I donno why u re mad at us but Hmd reddy crack dont cry about last version. Anarchy didnt do anything to u. You gain what u deserve. Thats why redvendetta keep his silence and u do not

Aart (20:54:32 - 08-10)

Terencio shit report.
I dont have an account so add the fams pls;( browsing all deaths is so time consuming for an old man.

On topic:

Kcode at 16:38:00 on 08/10:
There are a lot of work going on in the background to improve the state of v4 (COM/NL)

Q: Why "improve" v4 if v5 is allready up and running and supposedly is omerta's future? Basic logic says it is double work (double time) and to be painfully fair, working fast is not really one of the stronger qualities for the omerta devs.
A: We are still beta testing it (answer will not suffice, you've been on this since what.. 4.0?)

Kcode at 16:38:00 on 08/10:
and with that it will also allow admins to have better tools to catch cheaters.

Q: Shouldn't omerta get better (read: unbiased) admins instead of better tools for the admins?
A: lol (answer will suffice)

Kcode at 16:38:00 on 08/10:
It's sad that we have to put so much resources into the anti-cheat measures instead of focusing in creating a better environment and game for all of us

Q: Shouldn't you say that after ten years of cheating gameplay (whether you deny it or not) this ship has (unsuccesfully) sailed? Plus, a better environment and game allready removes the need for cheating (if done properly)
A: <insert here>

Oh and PS: Stop locking ingame threads, it makes you come across like the fuherin (bramble if you didn't get the reference). A forum is supposed to be an open place for discussion. Otherwise develop an ingame sticky board for v5, an intern should be able to code that in 2 weeks.

Anonymous (20:22:09 - 08-10)

Anonymous at 19:59:28 on 08/10:
they are waiting when all acc give up bo they are starting to akill this accouns amins wont be cie a bust limit cause u are eling too many dc for boo an they are earning lots off money hwen they cant earn they akill all off

There is so much anger in this post, I got scared.

Anonymous (20:20:40 - 08-10)

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Anonymous (20:04:26 - 08-10)

Anonymous at 19:59:28 on 08/10:
they are waiting when all acc give up bo they are starting to akill this accouns amins wont be cie a bust limit cause u are eling too many dc for boo an they are earning lots off money hwen they cant earn they akill all off

well if they have proof those accounts cheated the akills are justified, but like 100k+ bo could be done without cheating (yeah i know no-life way) but it can be done, so i'm interested if they really have any proof for those akills, i hope so, otherwise in the future others (that possibly don't cheat but no-life ) and bust alot could be next.

Anonymous (19:59:28 - 08-10)

they are waiting when all acc give up bo they are starting to akill this accouns amins wont be cie a bust limit cause u are eling too many dc for boo an they are earning lots off money hwen they cant earn they akill all off