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General Comments & Major Rumors
21:16:45 - 04-04
General Comments & Major Rumors
21:14:13 - 04-04
Anonymous at 20:25:16 on 04/04:
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Nordip at 20:16:42 on 04/04:
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
Please don't compare vitoria to Adolf kanka.
Vittoria jumped for their bloods and shot quite a lot given their size. They are not an 80 Brug+ family.
Adolf Kanka just waited till the good fams (including fams who were dumb enough to blood him) were empty and/or down and shot the remains (at least he just shot the fams not blooded to him at that moment). And then he started to play Turks United and blooded/as1/whatever every Turkish family he could find. And some other scared as shit fams, and his pentagram noobs were #1 fam in terms of value by far. Every reranking fam, no matter if they were previously blooded to him or not, got shot. Including reranking Messina/Gravano. Ask Profestum what he thought of that.
Of course Adolf Kanka came apologizing then to those "bloods", and after reset it was payback time and he got what he deserved from those "bloods".
Now really, how can you compare Adolf Kanka to Vittoria.
Im not comparing both fams trough their play style, i'm stating the fact that in that situation there is resemblance of action shooting re ranking or just starting fams but not encounter those families when they were on full strength. So it's not a comparison but rather a resemblance in action. Vittoria did shoot for bloods even with their small playerbase that does not make them a winner. But it gives them reputation that they are loyal to their bloods. And with that reputation they can continue of course. They achieved that no one can deny that. It's at least a much better reputation than Adolf Kanka.
General Comments & Major Rumors
20:16:42 - 04-04
When we think about a winner we must think about what such had impact on the gameplay of the version. I see many people mentioning some "sidekick" families and proclaiming they are winners. Other mentions a group of families as winners.
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
To conclude a family as a winner one has to follow the gameplay closely and see which family can be announced winner. This version was not you're regular version where a group of families which can be called pact or anti pact to proclaim as winners.
The measurement of a winner is calculated about what kind of impact they made to make such a family a winner. I mean people say you can't say that a dead family is the winner which is entirely untrue. Some of the dead families paved a road for other families which did not do anything to proclaim as winner. See that is unfair. Everyone can stay out of all fights or shoot already empty/broken families and claim that they won. See Pentagram they have their hall of fame record but ask anyone are they winners? I bet you will answer for yourself that they were not the real winners of that version.
Other families that are still alive at the moment say we are winners mainly because they managed to kill reranking families or families that are empty. This is not the way. The way to see if a family wins is to see if they made such a impact that practically managed to kill such a fam that they even would be scared of you once the reset comes.
Ill give a simple example, Ive seen some say Campania or Vittoria as winners, ofcourse you can claim that they are one of the few that are still standing atm. But did they create such a impact alone that changed the gameplay entirely? Even for future versions? I mean lets say this we reset the version and Campania on their own face for example Gravano. Gravano in general will slaughter Campania with ease which means all the achievements that Campania reached this version as "winner" will be drained as easy as one claimed that they are winners.
Plus they are simply one of the fams that helped other families achieve their goal so in reality they did not win their own batle but they helped another family win the battle thus in reality they won something for someone else.
Next step is for example Vittoria can claim the version mainly because they shot on their own and killed some starting families which is understandable and thus they can claim we killed this much etc. Same thing Adolf did when Pentagram shot many reranking and damaged families. But think about it, did it change the gameplay in general even that they are feared upon in the future? In reality in the future after a reset such a family will be seen as a zip that needs to be squeezed rather than a family which should have full focus in order to claim winner of a version.
There were few fams that had many leading rolls this version. This included of course the Gravano side vs the Lucchese side. As these sidekick families that claim they won the version were fighting battles for the these families mentioned above.
We can see that Gravano had a large battle as the focus was on them for quite a while. They managed to survive for quite long even after taking a large part down of the opponents side. They fought while the spotlights were aimed on them. This is a family that can be considered winners for their gameplay.
Lucchese on the other hand had to deal with as much battles as Gravano did. They fought their way back up after being downed and managed to rally along other families to achieve their goal. And they did a pretty good job. All the sidekick families did help them to achieve it but in the end it is them that can walk with glory with achieving that Goal. thus they can also be considered winners.
Fidelitas altho they might be practically down at the moment they did big thing this version. After lucchese went down Fidelitas was in the spotlight, as they had the Gravano side as opponent, they managed to survive as long as possible and managed to bring down the resistance of the opponent side. Ofcouse with the help of the sidekick families but remember it was Fidelitas goal and not the sidekick families.
There as some other families that can be considered winners but now u know atleast who can be considered a winner manily because they achieved their goal and not achieving another familes goals to proclaim winner.
To other families such as sidekick families that want to be winners, all i can see is put yourself in the spotlight if you want to be a winner. Have personal vendetta's large families and stop their goals by making them your personal goal and not your bloods goal etc. rally as much fams as you want and make those fams your sidekick because it is your goal and not theirs. Ones you are in the spotlight you might be considered as winner.
Till then keep on crying and bitching that you won the version, no worries no one cares :')
General Comments & Major Rumors
22:31:36 - 01-04
Anonymous at 22:12:37 on 01/04:
lol I'm having a hard time beliving those numbers being unique registered users, especially that 4.5 mil
game has lost like 4.498.000 players then :D
Nordip at 21:57:07 on 01/04:
Well since the time barafranca LTD has been running they had over 4.5 million unique registered users, but take into account on all servers .dm .nl .de etc etc. In July 2009 version 3.0 of Omerta was released. In the first month after the release more than 100 000 players registered.
these might not all be 100k unique but we can assume 90k where unique 10k got killed in that month's process including the dupes. And we all know that after 3.0 it went downwards. I remember back in 2005 playing on .nl around 4am and there were like more players online than we have now when a version gets reset. So don't be amazed if there were actually 100k players maybe not all active but it is something.
manager at 20:55:15 on 01/04:
I don't think there was ever a moment where there were 100.000 players?
I don't think there was ever a moment where there were 100.000 players?
Well since the time barafranca LTD has been running they had over 4.5 million unique registered users, but take into account on all servers .dm .nl .de etc etc. In July 2009 version 3.0 of Omerta was released. In the first month after the release more than 100 000 players registered.
these might not all be 100k unique but we can assume 90k where unique 10k got killed in that month's process including the dupes. And we all know that after 3.0 it went downwards. I remember back in 2005 playing on .nl around 4am and there were like more players online than we have now when a version gets reset. So don't be amazed if there were actually 100k players maybe not all active but it is something.
lol I'm having a hard time beliving those numbers being unique registered users, especially that 4.5 mil
game has lost like 4.498.000 players then :D
It's hard to believe but it is unfortunately true, remember these 4.5 are not only on .com divide them over all subversion but leaving .com with having the majority.
Remember when statistics pages used to have a single family as big as couple families now
Now the average family HQ lies between 75/100
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General Comments & Major Rumors
21:57:07 - 01-04
manager at 20:55:15 on 01/04:
I don't think there was ever a moment where there were 100.000 players?
I don't think there was ever a moment where there were 100.000 players?
Well since the time barafranca LTD has been running they had over 4.5 million unique registered users, but take into account on all servers .dm .nl .de etc etc. In July 2009 version 3.0 of Omerta was released. In the first month after the release more than 100 000 players registered.
these might not all be 100k unique but we can assume 90k where unique 10k got killed in that month's process including the dupes. And we all know that after 3.0 it went downwards. I remember back in 2005 playing on .nl around 4am and there were like more players online than we have now when a version gets reset. So don't be amazed if there were actually 100k players maybe not all active but it is something.
whats with the essays lately Nordip?
A essay gives more information on background purposes than one-liners. The ones that actually read such essays will understand rather than creating their own imagination and heresy based on the one-liners and become know-it-all without realizing the bigger picture.