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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Fatmikee (23:37:31 - 19-08)
karmi at 05:57:37 on 18/08:
yup.. if you don't see corniole, cybah, slowie, fingon, heista, carloscifo, innocenteyes, abbandando, arif, bahadirrr, kaperka, nbdy, moonburn (at least one of them) in top, thats not tempestuoso xD
Anonymous at 21:45:52 on 17/08:
To be fair you can talk about Tempestuoso as if they are an honorable and “old school” family, and rightfully so.. but nowadays it’s nothing alike. The game has changed and the people running that family back in the day are nowhere to be seen. I’m not playing and i’m not sure who is in charge, but my intuition says it’s people that were random members there at the time and that have lingered around long enough to claim the family name, such as Jaydakilla(?). You can’t compare Tempestuoso back then to the people who claim to be “running it” nowadays. It will only bring shame to omerta history, which is why i’m not a big fan of families being “reinvented”. The oldschool omerta spirit, or at least what it was claimed to be some 10-15 years ago is long gone - if you want to start up a family in present day omerta at least come up with a new name and let the people that ran in back then retain their pride. Even if they’re not around and not giving a shit about what’s going on these days (and rightfully so).
To be fair you can talk about Tempestuoso as if they are an honorable and “old school” family, and rightfully so.. but nowadays it’s nothing alike. The game has changed and the people running that family back in the day are nowhere to be seen. I’m not playing and i’m not sure who is in charge, but my intuition says it’s people that were random members there at the time and that have lingered around long enough to claim the family name, such as Jaydakilla(?). You can’t compare Tempestuoso back then to the people who claim to be “running it” nowadays. It will only bring shame to omerta history, which is why i’m not a big fan of families being “reinvented”. The oldschool omerta spirit, or at least what it was claimed to be some 10-15 years ago is long gone - if you want to start up a family in present day omerta at least come up with a new name and let the people that ran in back then retain their pride. Even if they’re not around and not giving a shit about what’s going on these days (and rightfully so).
yup.. if you don't see corniole, cybah, slowie, fingon, heista, carloscifo, innocenteyes, abbandando, arif, bahadirrr, kaperka, nbdy, moonburn (at least one of them) in top, thats not tempestuoso xD
I don’t post here but I will say I am forever storm.
Temp forever.
But Jaydakilla who was nothing more than a member looking for online dates did the same thing when he brought temp up last. He didn’t do much it was a shame, he just flirted with female accounts on the low
and had no strategy. Our family went inactive and he declared a fail war on Outfit and nobody really logged in to shoot at them. In the end I was told her emptied family bank for a prospect female account he had the hots for in our family. What a joke.
Anonymous (23:27:06 - 19-08)
Anonymous at 13:50:14 on 17/08:
McGee and EP some really miss u!
Maybe that’s a blonde with huge tits :p
Anonymous at 11:03:36 on 17/08:
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
McGee and EP some really miss u!
Maybe that’s a blonde with huge tits :p
Ep and mcgee
my dudes <3
Sollid (19:05:58 - 19-08)
karmi at 15:04:07 on 16/08:
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
The honor code! I remember that! Could've used that memory space for something more useful, but still :)
karmi (05:57:37 - 18-08)
Anonymous at 21:45:52 on 17/08:
To be fair you can talk about Tempestuoso as if they are an honorable and “old school” family, and rightfully so.. but nowadays it’s nothing alike. The game has changed and the people running that family back in the day are nowhere to be seen. I’m not playing and i’m not sure who is in charge, but my intuition says it’s people that were random members there at the time and that have lingered around long enough to claim the family name, such as Jaydakilla(?). You can’t compare Tempestuoso back then to the people who claim to be “running it” nowadays. It will only bring shame to omerta history, which is why i’m not a big fan of families being “reinvented”. The oldschool omerta spirit, or at least what it was claimed to be some 10-15 years ago is long gone - if you want to start up a family in present day omerta at least come up with a new name and let the people that ran in back then retain their pride. Even if they’re not around and not giving a shit about what’s going on these days (and rightfully so).
To be fair you can talk about Tempestuoso as if they are an honorable and “old school” family, and rightfully so.. but nowadays it’s nothing alike. The game has changed and the people running that family back in the day are nowhere to be seen. I’m not playing and i’m not sure who is in charge, but my intuition says it’s people that were random members there at the time and that have lingered around long enough to claim the family name, such as Jaydakilla(?). You can’t compare Tempestuoso back then to the people who claim to be “running it” nowadays. It will only bring shame to omerta history, which is why i’m not a big fan of families being “reinvented”. The oldschool omerta spirit, or at least what it was claimed to be some 10-15 years ago is long gone - if you want to start up a family in present day omerta at least come up with a new name and let the people that ran in back then retain their pride. Even if they’re not around and not giving a shit about what’s going on these days (and rightfully so).
yup.. if you don't see corniole, cybah, slowie, fingon, heista, carloscifo, innocenteyes, abbandando, arif, bahadirrr, kaperka, nbdy, moonburn (at least one of them) in top, thats not tempestuoso xD
Anonymous (21:45:52 - 17-08)
Mr Mcgee at 19:11:13 on 17/08:
not much nigga
Anonymous at 23:05:50 on 16/08:
What’s up Mcgee
Mr Mcgee at 21:43:52 on 16/08:
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
karmi at 15:04:07 on 16/08:
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
What’s up Mcgee
not much nigga
Anonymous (21:04:43 - 17-08)
User: Jazeem / / (Add to your friends list)
Rank: Pickpocket
Wtf he is PP allrdy
Who have sendt him 50k ?
Rank: Pickpocket
Wtf he is PP allrdy
Who have sendt him 50k ?
Mr Mcgee (19:11:13 - 17-08)
Anonymous at 23:05:50 on 16/08:
What’s up Mcgee
Mr Mcgee at 21:43:52 on 16/08:
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
karmi at 15:04:07 on 16/08:
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
What’s up Mcgee
not much nigga
Mr Mcgee (19:06:10 - 17-08)
karmi at 06:47:58 on 17/08:
%100 aggreed except the "people here live in the past" part.. the most annoying thing about these players who brought up the oldschool families, most of them didnt even play in the family xD
Anonymous at 23:05:50 on 16/08:
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
%100 aggreed except the "people here live in the past" part.. the most annoying thing about these players who brought up the oldschool families, most of them didnt even play in the family xD
I can see Jazeem brining up Conflict family if the fucking Tard ranks past LC
Mr Mcgee (19:03:19 - 17-08)
Anonymous at 12:40:12 on 17/08:
Ep is way cooler than Mcgee that we can all agree on
Anonymous at 11:03:36 on 17/08:
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
Ep is way cooler than Mcgee that we can all agree on
Yeah I agree with it to
Mr Mcgee (19:02:00 - 17-08)
Anonymous at 14:16:07 on 17/08:
Mcgee is into bald Dutchmen heads
Anonymous at 13:50:14 on 17/08:
McGee and EP some really miss u!
Maybe that’s a blonde with huge tits :p
Anonymous at 11:03:36 on 17/08:
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
McGee and EP some really miss u!
Maybe that’s a blonde with huge tits :p
Mcgee is into bald Dutchmen heads
xD
Anonymous (11:03:36 - 17-08)
Only thing lamer than bringing back an old family name is posing as a fucktard such as Mr McGee…Weird how many fan boys he has. Looking at you, EP and the rest of noobs posing as him.
karmi (06:47:58 - 17-08)
Anonymous at 23:05:50 on 16/08:
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
%100 aggreed except the "people here live in the past" part.. the most annoying thing about these players who brought up the oldschool families, most of them didnt even play in the family xD
Anonymous (23:06:55 - 16-08)
Anonymous at 17:35:57 on 15/08:
Are you stupid or what? Domains will be renewed automatically without a problem like with with all domains that are active on the world wide web. Only reason for this not to happen is if Omerta disables that or drops the domain.
Anonymous at 01:41:58 on 15/08:
Domain Information
Name: BARAFRANCA.COM
Registry Domain ID: 104114854_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Domain Status:
clientDeleteProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
Nameservers:
APOLLO.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
JO.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Dates
Created: 2003-09-25 20:23:53 UTC
Registry Expiration: 2021-09-25 20:23:53 UTC
25th of next month ... byeeee :w
Domain Information
Name: BARAFRANCA.COM
Registry Domain ID: 104114854_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Domain Status:
clientDeleteProhibited
clientTransferProhibited
Nameservers:
APOLLO.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
JO.NS.CLOUDFLARE.COM
Dates
Created: 2003-09-25 20:23:53 UTC
Registry Expiration: 2021-09-25 20:23:53 UTC
25th of next month ... byeeee :w
Are you stupid or what? Domains will be renewed automatically without a problem like with with all domains that are active on the world wide web. Only reason for this not to happen is if Omerta disables that or drops the domain.
Very true!
Anonymous (23:05:50 - 16-08)
Mr Mcgee at 21:43:52 on 16/08:
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
karmi at 15:04:07 on 16/08:
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Breaking out the old family names.
More proof people here live in the past.
That how it works though, people here are chickens I’d hate to say it, they wait on other people to start drama or play the game for them to pick a stance or have any direction.
Just like bringing back old family names to get some members, nostalgia sells on Omerta that’s why it’s a dead ass game.
(Hi everyone I’m the guy who asks you why you brought an old family back with hardly no tops there just to suck everyone’s dick) …. And hated for it to!!!!!
What’s up Mcgee
Anonymous (21:58:12 - 16-08)
karmi at 15:04:07 on 16/08:
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
so there was some pact he
karmi (15:04:07 - 16-08)
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
not good to diss an oldschool family.. i have so many good memories playing there.. the legendary family who brought the honor code to omerta that was accepted by the majority of players.. was the gold era of the game.. always the rebels against pacts.. fought some great outnumbered wars and had principles..
nevertheless it was brought up by some players later on after the main player base was no longer playing, so the name doesnt count.. we saw the same thing happening for other oldschool families as well for ex: mediterrano (which was actually the name of an alliance consist of tindari trapani terranova TTT & inzerillo lead by Franc hyobanshi rigazotti giddiness lpfiend genjohn and other legends that my memory cannot remember), cosanostra (Turkish member based fam which was insane at wars), catania, merovingians etc..
Lloyd (09:40:45 - 16-08)
Anonymous at 07:44:15 on 16/08:
Aqulias
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
Aqulias
HAHAH
Anonymous (07:44:15 - 16-08)
Anonymous at 03:31:30 on 16/08:
Tempestuoso
Anonymous at 23:25:04 on 15/08:
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
anyone knows what useless fams will be up?
Tempestuoso
Aqulias
To be fair you can talk about Tempestuoso as if they are an honorable and “old school” family, and rightfully so.. but nowadays it’s nothing alike. The game has changed and the people running that family back in the day are nowhere to be seen. I’m not playing and i’m not sure who is in charge, but my intuition says it’s people that were random members there at the time and that have lingered around long enough to claim the family name, such as Jaydakilla(?). You can’t compare Tempestuoso back then to the people who claim to be “running it” nowadays. It will only bring shame to omerta history, which is why i’m not a big fan of families being “reinvented”. The oldschool omerta spirit, or at least what it was claimed to be some 10-15 years ago is long gone - if you want to start up a family in present day omerta at least come up with a new name and let the people that ran in back then retain their pride. Even if they’re not around and not giving a shit about what’s going on these days (and rightfully so).
yup.. if you don't see corniole, cybah, slowie, fingon, heista, carloscifo, innocenteyes, abbandando, arif, bahadirrr, kaperka, nbdy, moonburn (at least one of them) in top, thats not tempestuoso xD
I don’t post here but I will say I am forever storm.
Temp forever.
But Jaydakilla who was nothing more than a member looking for online dates did the same thing when he brought temp up last. He didn’t do much it was a shame, he just flirted with female accounts on the low
and had no strategy. Our family went inactive and he declared a fail war on Outfit and nobody really logged in to shoot at them. In the end I was told her emptied family bank for a prospect female account he had the hots for in our family. What a joke.
Well said man