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General Comments & Major Rumors section.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Baboon (09:36:48 - 08-06)
Solstice (08:47:09 - 08-06)
Anonymous at 08:37:15 on 08/06:
crying? :D:D:d:d:s:s
Redspeert at 02:50:01 on 08/06:
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
Just plain and simple truth.
Anonymous (08:37:15 - 08-06)
Redspeert at 02:50:01 on 08/06:
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
Anonymous (07:51:53 - 08-06)
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cool bro. vizzini is anarchy. other new fams you indicated are also ex-fams. well now, please dont take a shit stats into account again.
the another thing is vizzini know they will be fucked up soon. so that they are trying to win dog_fight instead of dying with honor. we see soon, the bullshit pacts cannot finish the version in the beginning.
Anonymous at 14:03:00 on 07/06:
Lies lol. Where are these stats come from?
Stats guy at 11:48:28 on 07/06:
Here are some statistical info about the existing fams which i gathered from beyond. ( didnt count this round.)
My comments about these stats which are below ;
Righelli is the most aggressive fam depending on their ratio ( 5 wars for per version they have started.)
Marazzino is also another fighter fam (103 wars ) also started up in 24 versions with the same name _o_
Gambino, Provenzano, Trafficante also had started up in many versions (19, 21, 23) but their war amounts are too less. ( huggers ? )
Persico, Lusa, Aeterna also have good ratios about involving wars depending on their short past. If they keep going on with the same names, they will pass many older fams in a couple of versions later.
#Version Existed #Wars involved
Vizzini : New fam 0
Marazzino : 24 103
Siberia : 7 23
Renewal : New fam 0
Phoenix : New fam 0
Enfoire : 3 8
Blacksea : 13 40
Lusa : 14 55
Colossal : 3 11
Gambino : 19 73
Unholy : New fam 0
Ndrangheta: 3 3
Persico : 11 34
Righelli : 19 103
Casagnitio: New fam 0
Provenzano: 21 59
Imperial : 1 3
Shield : 2 2
Aeterna : 8 30
Sangreal : 2 10
Ndrine : 1 1
Trafficante : 23 67
Tempestuoso: 18 61
Andalusia : 10 25
Darkness : 1 4
Samagono : 19 64
Here are some statistical info about the existing fams which i gathered from beyond. ( didnt count this round.)
My comments about these stats which are below ;
Righelli is the most aggressive fam depending on their ratio ( 5 wars for per version they have started.)
Marazzino is also another fighter fam (103 wars ) also started up in 24 versions with the same name _o_
Gambino, Provenzano, Trafficante also had started up in many versions (19, 21, 23) but their war amounts are too less. ( huggers ? )
Persico, Lusa, Aeterna also have good ratios about involving wars depending on their short past. If they keep going on with the same names, they will pass many older fams in a couple of versions later.
#Version Existed #Wars involved
Vizzini : New fam 0
Marazzino : 24 103
Siberia : 7 23
Renewal : New fam 0
Phoenix : New fam 0
Enfoire : 3 8
Blacksea : 13 40
Lusa : 14 55
Colossal : 3 11
Gambino : 19 73
Unholy : New fam 0
Ndrangheta: 3 3
Persico : 11 34
Righelli : 19 103
Casagnitio: New fam 0
Provenzano: 21 59
Imperial : 1 3
Shield : 2 2
Aeterna : 8 30
Sangreal : 2 10
Ndrine : 1 1
Trafficante : 23 67
Tempestuoso: 18 61
Andalusia : 10 25
Darkness : 1 4
Samagono : 19 64
cool bro. vizzini is anarchy. other new fams you indicated are also ex-fams. well now, please dont take a shit stats into account again.
the another thing is vizzini know they will be fucked up soon. so that they are trying to win dog_fight instead of dying with honor. we see soon, the bullshit pacts cannot finish the version in the beginning.
Solstice (07:37:20 - 08-06)
Anonymous at 00:25:39 on 08/06:
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
Friendlist is the magic word. I never buy myself out, but i've been a topbuster+ranker on a couple of versions. If you start early and send friend requests to other busters you'll get out within a few seconds when busters start becoming better. I doubt any of the top busters have bought themselves out after let's say associate or mobster.
You are touching a good problem though. It's very hard figuring out how to rank properly as a newcomer, since most families don't take in and school you anymore. And the game has never been very clear about this. There has always been a lot of secrecy about what f.e. a bust brings you in term of rp and in term of account strength. Or group crimes. Or pretty much everything for that matter.
MurderInc at 00:31:10 on 08/06:
If you're referring to buyout money: I've stopped ranking with busts after they removed bust rp and made it to page 1 multiple times (first GF in 4.6 or so, AM I COOL YET BEST ACCOUNT EVZ XERANO CAN CONFIRM).
In terms of account strength, busting could still be worth it even without buyout money (or maybe just using the money you make yourself). Plenty of families also boost their top accouns heavily with fambank or objects, if that's your thing.
Anonymous at 00:25:39 on 08/06:
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
In terms of account strength, busting could still be worth it even without buyout money (or maybe just using the money you make yourself). Plenty of families also boost their top accouns heavily with fambank or objects, if that's your thing.
who needs buy out money when everyone just stays in one city and bust while lackeys rank lol
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
Mickgee aka mcgee (01:11:55 - 08-06)
I'm a sad man.
Aaaaahahaha
Aaaaahahaha
Anonymous at 00:25:39 on 08/06:
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
In terms of account strength, busting could still be worth it even without buyout money (or maybe just using the money you make yourself). Plenty of families also boost their top accouns heavily with fambank or objects, if that's your thing.
Anonymous (00:25:39 - 08-06)
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
Anonymous at 00:12:27 on 08/06:
well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
MurderInc at 00:09:06 on 08/06:
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
My point is: If you have an account that's stronger than someone elses account, it should have an effect, and not be completely meaningless before Brug. That's literally how every game on this planet works, the only thing I can accept talking about would be what should make your account stronger or weaker, but actually talking about whether it should make a difference at all makes me lose brain matter with every character I type.
Whether Siberia has won any stars or not is completely irrelevant to this discussion, we've had plenty of fun in various versions (both with and without winning).
I'm talking about game mechanics, and not everyday politics.
Anonymous (00:16:18 - 08-06)
Anonymous at 00:12:27 on 08/06:
well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
MurderInc at 00:09:06 on 08/06:
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
this is acutally the mentality that fucked up this game, your sentence "Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin", like this game is all about getting the HOF stars. The game is about having fun, honour, help your bloods, not about massblooding, stabbing have no honour but still be in the HOF.
Anonymous (00:12:27 - 08-06)
MurderInc at 00:09:06 on 08/06:
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.
Anonymous (00:06:31 - 08-06)
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?
It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous (23:41:56 - 07-06)
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Anonymous (23:07:45 - 07-06)
Anonymous at 18:11:33 on 07/06:
Hired.
Anonymous at 18:09:24 on 07/06:
Target its "Hell". Send him to his place pls.
Anonymous at 18:07:38 on 07/06:
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.
Target its "Hell". Send him to his place pls.
omg thast true !
H`HMD at 21:51:49 on 07/06:
Right now i'm beyond the point where I intend to find out who suicided on my 3 highest rankers (Colossal, fyi) and seek revenge. It's been happening to us in every single version we have been up so far, but this version it seems like every family is being targeted and it's utterly ridiculous.
More than the actual suiciders, I believe that the crew is responsible for all this because they allow it. If you want to weaken an enemy, you give a dc or two to an inactive player and have him suicide at them. It's legal because their policy is to only revive accounts killed by cheaters, which they're not. Meanwhile the active players, mostly top 20 overall on page 1 accounts, the ones keeping the company running with their significant DC investments are being punished by this glitch.
What also bothers me is the crew's feedback system. Since the resets are usually on thursday/friday families will go up in the weekend of the following week. If your top ranker gets suicided on, not only will you lose the account itself but also the money invested in the don spot, which is a major setback. But since the crew doesn't give a fuck about their company during the weekend, and a valuable 'customer' will get some kind of automated response to their e-mail and a denied request for a revive on monday. By then the advantage that comes with having one or more first page rankers will be long gone.
Worst of all is that a solution to all of the above already exists; a bullet limit. It's implemented in Omerta v5 that is currently already live on both .dm and .tr. God knows why the 2 biggest versions, nl/com, aren't updated to this new version yet. Probably comes with these 2 versions being managed by a different crew member.
So yea.. long story short I think the crew needs to change their attitude towards their players and customers, the few that's left keeping their company up and running. But after all these years, I should know better than that.
Anonymous at 21:21:46 on 07/06:
I agree, but it's too late. I'm done after this version. So are my friends.
Fenrir at 21:15:10 on 07/06:
These suicides is the lowest actions i have experienced in a long time. Its cowardly and pathetic. Admins should consider the possibility of reviving all these top accounts and implent the .dm changes onto .com aswell immediately. The suicides is exploits of a weakness in the gamesystem. 5% online time, inactive lackey accounts shouldnt be able to kill dedicated top accounts as easy as this.
If Omerta wants to keep this dying playerbase for a tiny bit longer they should react asap to this. If they dont take care of their most dedicated players they will surely lose them sooner or later.
These suicides is the lowest actions i have experienced in a long time. Its cowardly and pathetic. Admins should consider the possibility of reviving all these top accounts and implent the .dm changes onto .com aswell immediately. The suicides is exploits of a weakness in the gamesystem. 5% online time, inactive lackey accounts shouldnt be able to kill dedicated top accounts as easy as this.
If Omerta wants to keep this dying playerbase for a tiny bit longer they should react asap to this. If they dont take care of their most dedicated players they will surely lose them sooner or later.
Right now i'm beyond the point where I intend to find out who suicided on my 3 highest rankers (Colossal, fyi) and seek revenge. It's been happening to us in every single version we have been up so far, but this version it seems like every family is being targeted and it's utterly ridiculous.
More than the actual suiciders, I believe that the crew is responsible for all this because they allow it. If you want to weaken an enemy, you give a dc or two to an inactive player and have him suicide at them. It's legal because their policy is to only revive accounts killed by cheaters, which they're not. Meanwhile the active players, mostly top 20 overall on page 1 accounts, the ones keeping the company running with their significant DC investments are being punished by this glitch.
What also bothers me is the crew's feedback system. Since the resets are usually on thursday/friday families will go up in the weekend of the following week. If your top ranker gets suicided on, not only will you lose the account itself but also the money invested in the don spot, which is a major setback. But since the crew doesn't give a fuck about their company during the weekend, and a valuable 'customer' will get some kind of automated response to their e-mail and a denied request for a revive on monday. By then the advantage that comes with having one or more first page rankers will be long gone.
Worst of all is that a solution to all of the above already exists; a bullet limit. It's implemented in Omerta v5 that is currently already live on both .dm and .tr. God knows why the 2 biggest versions, nl/com, aren't updated to this new version yet. Probably comes with these 2 versions being managed by a different crew member.
So yea.. long story short I think the crew needs to change their attitude towards their players and customers, the few that's left keeping their company up and running. But after all these years, I should know better than that.
<Bramble> en waarom dan niet eens zien of je hetzelfde kan doen? een keer niet besluiten om als eerste op te gaan maar en masse suiciden op hun accounts?
"why don't you check if you can do the same thing? decide not to go up first for a change and do a mass suicide on their accounts instead?"
Apart from being completely retarded in terms of game mechanics, this is also terribly bad for Omerta from a business point of view, as there are numerous players who have either given up on hardcore ranking or retired completely as a result. We're usually talking about tops of big families who fall victim to suicides, so quite often there's a big network effect in terms of retirements as well.
As long as suicides are such an effective weapon against your enemies top accounts, the situation can realistically only get worse. To be honest, It's quite amazing something like this version isn't the status quo already. In a game that is essentially a race to the bottom (see: blood lists, exploits), and where trying to change this game for the better tends to simply get you killed (see: various attempts of both small and big families at taking only a small number of bloods and then getting gangbanged anyway), that's really no good news for Omerta.
This is coming from someone who has lost something like five first-page accounts to suicides in the last year or so, and whose family has lost their three highest rankers this version.
// edit: yes yes, I know, hypocrite, saving you the trouble of pointing that out.
By the way, for those not keeping track of .dm, this is the bullet limit that's been mentioned:
Limit of bullets to shoot
Since the beginning of Omerta there has been the limit of shooting a maximum amount of bullets (60,000) regardless of rank. From now the maximum amount of bullets that can be fired is defined by your rank.
Rank Bullets to shoot
Empty Suit: 0
Delivery Boy/Girl: 1,000
Picciotto: 1,500
Shoplifter : 2,250
Pickpocket: 3,500
Thief: 5,000
Associate :6,500
Mobster: 8,000
Soldier: 10,000
Swindler: 11,000
Assassin: 12,000
Local Chief: 15,000
Chief: 40,000
Bruglione: 60,000
Capodecina: 60,000
Godfather/First Lady: 60,000
Since the beginning of Omerta there has been the limit of shooting a maximum amount of bullets (60,000) regardless of rank. From now the maximum amount of bullets that can be fired is defined by your rank.
Rank Bullets to shoot
Empty Suit: 0
Delivery Boy/Girl: 1,000
Picciotto: 1,500
Shoplifter : 2,250
Pickpocket: 3,500
Thief: 5,000
Associate :6,500
Mobster: 8,000
Soldier: 10,000
Swindler: 11,000
Assassin: 12,000
Local Chief: 15,000
Chief: 40,000
Bruglione: 60,000
Capodecina: 60,000
Godfather/First Lady: 60,000
- i always thought that there was a 72 hour timeframe, is that correct?
- when you get a rebirth/revive, will you get the missing RP for the time you were dead?
And
When can one get a rebirth?
Thanks :D