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Anonymous (10:12:43 - 08-06)
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Why on the earth we never saw a suicide on DON of Lusa. Does that mean that their mass dupes are suiciding on their possibly enemies?


Waiting a suicide on their don for ages. :)
Baboon (09:59:12 - 08-06)
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Damn,, thanks JohnX for the information!

That sounds like FIFA to me :D

Johnx Denmark (09:55:48 - 08-06)
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Baboon at 09:54:31 on 08/06:
Johnx at 09:47:26 on 08/06:
Baboon at 09:36:48 on 08/06:
Can someone explain me how this rebirths of revive system works?
- i always thought that there was a 72 hour timeframe, is that correct?
- when you get a rebirth/revive, will you get the missing RP for the time you were dead?
And
When can one get a rebirth?
Thanks :D

72 hours frame is just an excuse they use depending on who you are, and who got akilled. I've seen plenty people exceed the 72 hour fram and still get a revive. When you get a revive they transfer the rp from your rebirth to your revived account.

You can get a revive if you've been killed by a cheater or if you've been wrongfully akilled

Hmm okay, Thanks for the fast response!

So there are no rules for revive, it only depends on the Admins?
and it is possible to die as a swindler and to revive 5 days later as a Local chief?

Do i get that right?
It is if admins likes you enough / dislikes your killer enough you'd be revived as swindler and then favored with rp to local chief :)
Baboon (09:54:31 - 08-06)
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Johnx at 09:47:26 on 08/06:
Baboon at 09:36:48 on 08/06:
Can someone explain me how this rebirths of revive system works?
- i always thought that there was a 72 hour timeframe, is that correct?
- when you get a rebirth/revive, will you get the missing RP for the time you were dead?
And
When can one get a rebirth?
Thanks :D

72 hours frame is just an excuse they use depending on who you are, and who got akilled. I've seen plenty people exceed the 72 hour fram and still get a revive. When you get a revive they transfer the rp from your rebirth to your revived account.

You can get a revive if you've been killed by a cheater or if you've been wrongfully akilled

Hmm okay, Thanks for the fast response!

So there are no rules for revive, it only depends on the Admins?
and it is possible to die as a swindler and to revive 5 days later as a Local chief?

Do i get that right?
Johnx Denmark (09:47:26 - 08-06)
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Baboon at 09:36:48 on 08/06:
Can someone explain me how this rebirths of revive system works?

- i always thought that there was a 72 hour timeframe, is that correct?

- when you get a rebirth/revive, will you get the missing RP for the time you were dead?

And

When can one get a rebirth?

Thanks :D
72 hours frame is just an excuse they use depending on who you are, and who got akilled. I've seen plenty people exceed the 72 hour fram and still get a revive.
When you get a revive they transfer the rp from your rebirth to your revived account.

You can get a revive if you've been killed by a cheater or if you've been wrongfully akilled
Baboon (09:36:48 - 08-06)
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Can someone explain me how this rebirths of revive system works?

- i always thought that there was a 72 hour timeframe, is that correct?

- when you get a rebirth/revive, will you get the missing RP for the time you were dead?

And

When can one get a rebirth?

Thanks :D
Solstice (08:47:09 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 08:37:15 on 08/06:
Redspeert at 02:50:01 on 08/06:
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
crying? :D:D:d:d:s:s

Just plain and simple truth.
Anonymous (08:37:15 - 08-06)
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Redspeert at 02:50:01 on 08/06:
They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
crying? :D:D:d:d:s:s
Anonymous (07:51:53 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 14:03:00 on 07/06:
Stats guy at 11:48:28 on 07/06:
Here are some statistical info about the existing fams which i gathered from beyond. ( didnt count this round.)

My comments about these stats which are below ;

Righelli is the most aggressive fam depending on their ratio ( 5 wars for per version they have started.)
Marazzino is also another fighter fam (103 wars ) also started up in 24 versions with the same name _o_
Gambino, Provenzano, Trafficante also had started up in many versions (19, 21, 23) but their war amounts are too less. ( huggers ? )
Persico, Lusa, Aeterna also have good ratios about involving wars depending on their short past. If they keep going on with the same names, they will pass many older fams in a couple of versions later.

#Version Existed #Wars involved
Vizzini : New fam 0
Marazzino : 24 103
Siberia : 7 23
Renewal : New fam 0
Phoenix : New fam 0
Enfoire : 3 8
Blacksea : 13 40
Lusa : 14 55
Colossal : 3 11
Gambino : 19 73
Unholy : New fam 0
Ndrangheta: 3 3
Persico : 11 34
Righelli : 19 103
Casagnitio: New fam 0
Provenzano: 21 59
Imperial : 1 3
Shield : 2 2
Aeterna : 8 30
Sangreal : 2 10
Ndrine : 1 1
Trafficante : 23 67
Tempestuoso: 18 61
Andalusia : 10 25
Darkness : 1 4
Samagono : 19 64



Lies lol. Where are these stats come from?

cool bro. vizzini is anarchy. other new fams you indicated are also ex-fams. well now, please dont take a shit stats into account again.

the another thing is vizzini know they will be fucked up soon. so that they are trying to win dog_fight instead of dying with honor. we see soon, the bullshit pacts cannot finish the version in the beginning.
Solstice (07:37:20 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 00:25:39 on 08/06:
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?

Friendlist is the magic word. I never buy myself out, but i've been a topbuster+ranker on a couple of versions. If you start early and send friend requests to other busters you'll get out within a few seconds when busters start becoming better. I doubt any of the top busters have bought themselves out after let's say associate or mobster.

You are touching a good problem though. It's very hard figuring out how to rank properly as a newcomer, since most families don't take in and school you anymore. And the game has never been very clear about this. There has always been a lot of secrecy about what f.e. a bust brings you in term of rp and in term of account strength. Or group crimes. Or pretty much everything for that matter.
theking (07:06:49 - 08-06)
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where is #c(A)rt(A)gen(A) when you need them
free daniel free vato!!
Killerzzz Netherlands (04:55:33 - 08-06)
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MurderInc at 00:31:10 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 00:25:39 on 08/06:
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
If you're referring to buyout money: I've stopped ranking with busts after they removed bust rp and made it to page 1 multiple times (first GF in 4.6 or so, AM I COOL YET BEST ACCOUNT EVZ XERANO CAN CONFIRM).

In terms of account strength, busting could still be worth it even without buyout money (or maybe just using the money you make yourself). Plenty of families also boost their top accouns heavily with fambank or objects, if that's your thing.

who needs buy out money when everyone just stays in one city and bust while lackeys rank lol
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (02:50:01 - 08-06)
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They need to introduce 5.0 into .com asap and change .com managment, else more and more people will quit.
Mickgee aka mcgee (01:11:55 - 08-06)
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I'm a sad man.
Aaaaahahaha
MurderInc Austria (00:31:10 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 00:25:39 on 08/06:
so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
If you're referring to buyout money: I've stopped ranking with busts after they removed bust rp and made it to page 1 multiple times (first GF in 4.6 or so, AM I COOL YET BEST ACCOUNT EVZ XERANO CAN CONFIRM).

In terms of account strength, busting could still be worth it even without buyout money (or maybe just using the money you make yourself). Plenty of families also boost their top accouns heavily with fambank or objects, if that's your thing.
Anonymous (00:25:39 - 08-06)
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so acc on 1 page have 25k+ bo,can you explain me ,how i can make it,without money?
MurderInc Austria (00:22:53 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 00:12:27 on 08/06:
MurderInc at 00:09:06 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).

No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?

It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?

I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.

well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
I don't know why you keep bringing up DCs. I know plenty of players who build strong accounts without selling DCs. if you want my opinion on DCs: It's a legal method of cheating.

My point is: If you have an account that's stronger than someone elses account, it should have an effect, and not be completely meaningless before Brug. That's literally how every game on this planet works, the only thing I can accept talking about would be what should make your account stronger or weaker, but actually talking about whether it should make a difference at all makes me lose brain matter with every character I type.

Whether Siberia has won any stars or not is completely irrelevant to this discussion, we've had plenty of fun in various versions (both with and without winning).
I'm talking about game mechanics, and not everyday politics.
Anonymous (00:16:18 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 00:12:27 on 08/06:
MurderInc at 00:09:06 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).

No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?

It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?

I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.

well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...

this is acutally the mentality that fucked up this game, your sentence "Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin", like this game is all about getting the HOF stars. The game is about having fun, honour, help your bloods, not about massblooding, stabbing have no honour but still be in the HOF.
Anonymous (00:12:27 - 08-06)
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MurderInc at 00:09:06 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).

No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?

It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?

I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.

well your point is,you put 200e on acc,make bo,first page,strong acc,big fam,and you can kill all omerta player :D well my brothers,or teach play or quit this game...Dont forget only star what siberia get its given by admin...so you are retard player,but active,and i really hope you can change yourself and start play smart...
MurderInc Austria (00:09:06 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 00:06:31 on 08/06:
MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).

No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?

It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
You do realize how fucking retarded it is to tell someone you have to play shit in order to play good, and think that's a good situation?

I'd guess you're just naturally a shit player and quite happy that anyone who's better than you can still be killed easily as a lowrank. Just like the people that were crying when this KA was introduced and their dupe armies suddenly were shit.