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Grannqe` (01:17:05 - 22-12)
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A friend of mine once found a bulletfactory bug that Lusa might be using it, u could buy the whole local factory bullets, but u would pay only for the 1k.
Anonymous (16:25:35 - 21-12)
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Anonymous at 15:40:28 on 21/12:
MurderInc at 05:16:14 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 23:31:37 on 20/12:
MurderInc at 21:25:25 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?
When I'm commenting on this site, I'm not doing that as a reporter. Besides, as I have pointed out, neither article was in any way pro-pact. you chose to ignore that point.

Why are you asking me about what the admins are doing about the money trading issue? I'm no admin, it's not my decision. If it was up to me, I would tell them to:
1. Make an official announcement that trading will be punished the same way duping gets punished. As it stands now, only a few members of a single family got punished, and the only official document saying trading is punishable is some years-old wiki article. It's not included in the rules or anything. So make it official, then no one can complain about akills.
2. While they're at it, they should probably make a rule about pushing accounts in general, since part of their argument was that it was unfair for accounts to receive the majority of some other accounts money. If they think this should be illegal, make a rule for it, specifying as clearly as possible what is allowed and what isn't. That way, everyone would have to be treated the same way and no one could accuse them of taking sides anymore.
3. Invest in tooling that makes finding traders as much of an automated process as possible. It's not that hard to filter bank transactions from IP A to B on version X, and B to A on version Y within a certain period. That would cover probably 90% of the trading going on atm, and then the crew could spend their time finding the people who do it more covertly.

I have no idea exactly how many people from Lusa got akilled for trading. I remember 2 or 3.
so what is reason for remove HoF? if trade is legal,and lusa don get akill only?
Why or why are you asking this here? All I can say is that the crew used the HoF before to punish people for alleged cheating, even when they weren't able to show any solid proof someone was cheating in a particular version (Aeterna, Righelli). Of course their decision last version didn't make any sense at all, considering the fact that in previous versions shitloads of exploits were found and fixed, yet no one argued that those versions where somehow tainted and therefore should not get a HoF winner. Compared to those versions, last version was clean as a whistle. It was yet another terrible decision by .com version management, but we're used to that, aren't we? I don't think you'll find anyone who says they agreed with this decision (don't mistake laughing at you for agreeing), not even the families you accuse of somehow having talked the version management into making that decision. For all I care they could remove the HoF entirely, or at least the family section.

that version the star got removed later on , on behalf of using money bug and you know it mate

That's speculation. Admins busted Aeterna for example for using a money bug and removed the stars from previous versions and even stars of Righelli because some tops used to be Righelli. If admins had removed stars based on just proof, they could only take away a single star of that particular version. I know for a fact the money bug wasn't used in all won versions, so you can't per definition say 'they must've used it back then too'. Because that's not always the case. Admins removed multiple stars as some sort of 'punishment'. That being said, I think admins shouldn't remove without having proof of it. The reason for that is the fact that every winning family has some cheaters. This could be a moneytrader or a duper. Where do you draw a line.
Anonymous (15:40:28 - 21-12)
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MurderInc at 05:16:14 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 23:31:37 on 20/12:
MurderInc at 21:25:25 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?
When I'm commenting on this site, I'm not doing that as a reporter. Besides, as I have pointed out, neither article was in any way pro-pact. you chose to ignore that point.

Why are you asking me about what the admins are doing about the money trading issue? I'm no admin, it's not my decision. If it was up to me, I would tell them to:
1. Make an official announcement that trading will be punished the same way duping gets punished. As it stands now, only a few members of a single family got punished, and the only official document saying trading is punishable is some years-old wiki article. It's not included in the rules or anything. So make it official, then no one can complain about akills.
2. While they're at it, they should probably make a rule about pushing accounts in general, since part of their argument was that it was unfair for accounts to receive the majority of some other accounts money. If they think this should be illegal, make a rule for it, specifying as clearly as possible what is allowed and what isn't. That way, everyone would have to be treated the same way and no one could accuse them of taking sides anymore.
3. Invest in tooling that makes finding traders as much of an automated process as possible. It's not that hard to filter bank transactions from IP A to B on version X, and B to A on version Y within a certain period. That would cover probably 90% of the trading going on atm, and then the crew could spend their time finding the people who do it more covertly.

I have no idea exactly how many people from Lusa got akilled for trading. I remember 2 or 3.
so what is reason for remove HoF? if trade is legal,and lusa don get akill only?
Why or why are you asking this here? All I can say is that the crew used the HoF before to punish people for alleged cheating, even when they weren't able to show any solid proof someone was cheating in a particular version (Aeterna, Righelli). Of course their decision last version didn't make any sense at all, considering the fact that in previous versions shitloads of exploits were found and fixed, yet no one argued that those versions where somehow tainted and therefore should not get a HoF winner. Compared to those versions, last version was clean as a whistle. It was yet another terrible decision by .com version management, but we're used to that, aren't we? I don't think you'll find anyone who says they agreed with this decision (don't mistake laughing at you for agreeing), not even the families you accuse of somehow having talked the version management into making that decision. For all I care they could remove the HoF entirely, or at least the family section.

that version the star got removed later on , on behalf of using money bug and you know it mate
Anonymous (15:39:22 - 21-12)
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irc down ?
MurderInc Austria (05:16:14 - 21-12)
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Anonymous at 23:31:37 on 20/12:
MurderInc at 21:25:25 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?
When I'm commenting on this site, I'm not doing that as a reporter. Besides, as I have pointed out, neither article was in any way pro-pact. you chose to ignore that point.

Why are you asking me about what the admins are doing about the money trading issue? I'm no admin, it's not my decision. If it was up to me, I would tell them to:
1. Make an official announcement that trading will be punished the same way duping gets punished. As it stands now, only a few members of a single family got punished, and the only official document saying trading is punishable is some years-old wiki article. It's not included in the rules or anything. So make it official, then no one can complain about akills.
2. While they're at it, they should probably make a rule about pushing accounts in general, since part of their argument was that it was unfair for accounts to receive the majority of some other accounts money. If they think this should be illegal, make a rule for it, specifying as clearly as possible what is allowed and what isn't. That way, everyone would have to be treated the same way and no one could accuse them of taking sides anymore.
3. Invest in tooling that makes finding traders as much of an automated process as possible. It's not that hard to filter bank transactions from IP A to B on version X, and B to A on version Y within a certain period. That would cover probably 90% of the trading going on atm, and then the crew could spend their time finding the people who do it more covertly.

I have no idea exactly how many people from Lusa got akilled for trading. I remember 2 or 3.
so what is reason for remove HoF? if trade is legal,and lusa don get akill only?
Why or why are you asking this here? All I can say is that the crew used the HoF before to punish people for alleged cheating, even when they weren't able to show any solid proof someone was cheating in a particular version (Aeterna, Righelli). Of course their decision last version didn't make any sense at all, considering the fact that in previous versions shitloads of exploits were found and fixed, yet no one argued that those versions where somehow tainted and therefore should not get a HoF winner. Compared to those versions, last version was clean as a whistle. It was yet another terrible decision by .com version management, but we're used to that, aren't we? I don't think you'll find anyone who says they agreed with this decision (don't mistake laughing at you for agreeing), not even the families you accuse of somehow having talked the version management into making that decision. For all I care they could remove the HoF entirely, or at least the family section.
Anonymous (23:31:37 - 20-12)
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MurderInc at 21:25:25 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?
When I'm commenting on this site, I'm not doing that as a reporter. Besides, as I have pointed out, neither article was in any way pro-pact. you chose to ignore that point.

Why are you asking me about what the admins are doing about the money trading issue? I'm no admin, it's not my decision. If it was up to me, I would tell them to:
1. Make an official announcement that trading will be punished the same way duping gets punished. As it stands now, only a few members of a single family got punished, and the only official document saying trading is punishable is some years-old wiki article. It's not included in the rules or anything. So make it official, then no one can complain about akills.
2. While they're at it, they should probably make a rule about pushing accounts in general, since part of their argument was that it was unfair for accounts to receive the majority of some other accounts money. If they think this should be illegal, make a rule for it, specifying as clearly as possible what is allowed and what isn't. That way, everyone would have to be treated the same way and no one could accuse them of taking sides anymore.
3. Invest in tooling that makes finding traders as much of an automated process as possible. It's not that hard to filter bank transactions from IP A to B on version X, and B to A on version Y within a certain period. That would cover probably 90% of the trading going on atm, and then the crew could spend their time finding the people who do it more covertly.

I have no idea exactly how many people from Lusa got akilled for trading. I remember 2 or 3.
so what is reason for remove HoF? if trade is legal,and lusa don get akill only?
MurderInc Austria (21:25:25 - 20-12)
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Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?
When I'm commenting on this site, I'm not doing that as a reporter. Besides, as I have pointed out, neither article was in any way pro-pact. you chose to ignore that point.

Why are you asking me about what the admins are doing about the money trading issue? I'm no admin, it's not my decision. If it was up to me, I would tell them to:
1. Make an official announcement that trading will be punished the same way duping gets punished. As it stands now, only a few members of a single family got punished, and the only official document saying trading is punishable is some years-old wiki article. It's not included in the rules or anything. So make it official, then no one can complain about akills.
2. While they're at it, they should probably make a rule about pushing accounts in general, since part of their argument was that it was unfair for accounts to receive the majority of some other accounts money. If they think this should be illegal, make a rule for it, specifying as clearly as possible what is allowed and what isn't. That way, everyone would have to be treated the same way and no one could accuse them of taking sides anymore.
3. Invest in tooling that makes finding traders as much of an automated process as possible. It's not that hard to filter bank transactions from IP A to B on version X, and B to A on version Y within a certain period. That would cover probably 90% of the trading going on atm, and then the crew could spend their time finding the people who do it more covertly.

I have no idea exactly how many people from Lusa got akilled for trading. I remember 2 or 3.
Anonymous (19:26:48 - 20-12)
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Anonymous at 14:03:53 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 06:43:27 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?

Admins can't fix money trading but they can't fix duping either. They do akill for duping. So expect to be akilled when you're trading you can expect to be akilled. They consider it cheating now.
so whats problem then? why lusa get akill?

Money trading. Just because admins can't fix it doesn't mean it's illegal.
dead_man Serbia (15:03:28 - 20-12)
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reset pls
Anonymous (14:03:53 - 20-12)
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Anonymous at 06:43:27 on 20/12:
Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?

Admins can't fix money trading but they can't fix duping either. They do akill for duping. So expect to be akilled when you're trading you can expect to be akilled. They consider it cheating now.
so whats problem then? why lusa get akill?
Anonymous (06:43:27 - 20-12)
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Anonymous at 18:32:12 on 19/12:
MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?

Admins can't fix money trading but they can't fix duping either. They do akill for duping. So expect to be akilled when you're trading you can expect to be akilled. They consider it cheating now.
Anonymous (18:32:12 - 19-12)
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MurderInc at 17:25:22 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
are you pact lawyer?or you are reprter or beynod?
you didnt answer murderdick,what admin make for fix TRADE-money? you miss that question
and how much akill lusa get for trade-money?
MurderInc Austria (17:25:22 - 19-12)
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Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
No family has anywhere near that amount of active players, and definitely not all from one version.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
Lusa members got akilled for trading as well, not just for the "bug abuse" (that akill was way later). No other family got punished for trading.

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
1. mmm was a member of Sovereign, so he actually shot Aeterna last version.
2. You say Burguesia is a .pt fam. Earlier you said Lusa was highly involved in trading because they have mostly .pt members. Why doesn't that apply to Burguesia?
3. Why do you act as if someone posted fake logs? A lot of people have logs of tops of both families asking for money trade. Almost every family was involved in trading (mine too, but we didn't get punished).

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
The crew has a history of using the HoF to punish people even when they don't have solid proof someone cheated in a particular version. They did the same to Aeterna and Righelli. Why is it that only you are crying it's the admins taking sides? Did you hear Aeterna or Righelli claim the admins favored whoever they were enemies with that version?

Anonymous at 16:57:27 on 19/12:
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
1. Here's the article for the Lusa akill/capo money bug: https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725
2. Saying the money trade issue was just an excuse for admins doesn't make any sense at all. Again: Lusa was the only fam to get akilled over both this issue and the capo bug. Saying this is in some way the admins favoring Lusa requires a special kind of stupidity.
3. The HoF issue was mentioned in the reset article. It wouldn't make sense to create two articles with the same content on the same day. Here's the full text (written by mmm, the same guy you just accused of taking the pact's side):
[...]the biggest suprise is the fact that there will be no Hall of Fame this version, due to the 'amount of abuse' there has been this version.

Congratulations are in order though from OBN to Burguesia for being the #1 family standing at the end of the round.
A second congratulations go out to Arline, the First lady of Kurosawa, for being the highest ranking gangster left standing.
A somewhat lesser congratulations might go out to our Hall of Shame winner, the Lusa family, for having the highest ratio of a-kills this version.

These were based on stats alone, each individual can have their own opinion on the matter ofcourse.

Now please stop crying, thanks.
Anonymous (16:57:27 - 19-12)
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there is some facts:Lusa have 100+ players from pt ,aeterna have 100+ players from nl,and last 5 years ,they make trade company on nl-pt wersion.
After lusa get akill for bug,witch is not lusa mistake,but as admin say ,affter lusa got akill,Yes all fams have bug,but only LUSA IS ABUSE BUG.And that is only things why lusa get akill..and for their luck,its not first,lusa get alot akils in past...
So they are go on bramble pm,and start cry ...Then they are come on idea,lets make article Trade-Money and give bramble reason for remove HoF,and show our players ,we are not guilty for any bug...
MMM (aeterna player) open article,and anonymous start blame Burugesia and kurosawa for trade money.. burg is portugal family,Kuro serbian fam.So thats have no big point,if we know lusa-aeterna last 5 years trade money...
For bramble,thats was more then enough reason for delete HoF ,and give lusa support for their bug and stop lusa cry.Ofc affter that,noobody didnt blame Bramble for bug-capo money,nobody didnt blame Bramble for trade-money,but she got support from pt-nl fams and that was enough for excuse.
Question is,why reporter didnt open article for HoF,as we have here the most comment for that,and why didnt open article for bug-capo money? And what bramble make for fix trade money? or we used this trade-money only for excuse ,for admins and lusa errors?
Anonymous (16:32:44 - 19-12)
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Anonymous at 16:19:51 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 12:59:10 on 19/12:
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Anonymous at 17:09:56 on 18/12:
Anonymous at 15:19:46 on 18/12:
#1 atm with more than 1000 busts (~4.2 busts per minute for 4H long) impressive and selling dc's like a madmen i guess x)
Probably he play in lusa fam,if lusa win wersion is legal,if not ,he sell dc for nothing

Crybaby lol. You honestly are a crybaby. You guys didn't get the win because you won using money trading dupes. You cheated and got busted. Try to play legit and win. Then you'll get your first HoF spot.

you talk about?

I talk about those who keep crying 'You only get punished for win when you're not Lusa'. While Lusa and a lot of other families have been akilled in the last versions. A lot of families have lost their HoF spot (even when they were not busted that particular version but were busted for a cheat several versions later). But now since it's Burg / Kuro who lose their HoF spot, it's others who did it and they play victim themselves.

I've been trading with people from several families during last version, including lots of trades with Burg and Kurosawa. In fact, those families cry about not getting HoF, they may be LUCKY not to be akilled while Lusa did get akilled. But admins realised it was ofcourse bigger than just Lusa and decided to just reset the whole game / economy.
so admin closed now trade money ?

If admind didnt put HoF ,because some fams use trade money,and we know witch fams play pt-nl,so what admin make for fix that? nothing? so for example if Lusa die,admin will remove again HoF ,because some fams use trade money?
Anonymous (16:19:51 - 19-12)
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Anonymous at 12:59:10 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 11:57:39 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 08:31:57 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 17:09:56 on 18/12:
Anonymous at 15:19:46 on 18/12:
#1 atm with more than 1000 busts (~4.2 busts per minute for 4H long) impressive and selling dc's like a madmen i guess x)
Probably he play in lusa fam,if lusa win wersion is legal,if not ,he sell dc for nothing

Crybaby lol. You honestly are a crybaby. You guys didn't get the win because you won using money trading dupes. You cheated and got busted. Try to play legit and win. Then you'll get your first HoF spot.

you talk about?

I talk about those who keep crying 'You only get punished for win when you're not Lusa'. While Lusa and a lot of other families have been akilled in the last versions. A lot of families have lost their HoF spot (even when they were not busted that particular version but were busted for a cheat several versions later). But now since it's Burg / Kuro who lose their HoF spot, it's others who did it and they play victim themselves.

I've been trading with people from several families during last version, including lots of trades with Burg and Kurosawa. In fact, those families cry about not getting HoF, they may be LUCKY not to be akilled while Lusa did get akilled. But admins realised it was ofcourse bigger than just Lusa and decided to just reset the whole game / economy.
so admin closed now trade money ?
eddy (16:12:25 - 19-12)
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Anonymous $ 4,250,000 44S Go

moron selling dc
Anonymous (12:59:10 - 19-12)
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Anonymous at 11:57:39 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 08:31:57 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 17:09:56 on 18/12:
Anonymous at 15:19:46 on 18/12:
#1 atm with more than 1000 busts (~4.2 busts per minute for 4H long) impressive and selling dc's like a madmen i guess x)
Probably he play in lusa fam,if lusa win wersion is legal,if not ,he sell dc for nothing

Crybaby lol. You honestly are a crybaby. You guys didn't get the win because you won using money trading dupes. You cheated and got busted. Try to play legit and win. Then you'll get your first HoF spot.

you talk about?

I talk about those who keep crying 'You only get punished for win when you're not Lusa'. While Lusa and a lot of other families have been akilled in the last versions. A lot of families have lost their HoF spot (even when they were not busted that particular version but were busted for a cheat several versions later). But now since it's Burg / Kuro who lose their HoF spot, it's others who did it and they play victim themselves.

I've been trading with people from several families during last version, including lots of trades with Burg and Kurosawa. In fact, those families cry about not getting HoF, they may be LUCKY not to be akilled while Lusa did get akilled. But admins realised it was ofcourse bigger than just Lusa and decided to just reset the whole game / economy.
Anonymous (11:57:39 - 19-12)
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Anonymous at 08:31:57 on 19/12:
Anonymous at 17:09:56 on 18/12:
Anonymous at 15:19:46 on 18/12:
#1 atm with more than 1000 busts (~4.2 busts per minute for 4H long) impressive and selling dc's like a madmen i guess x)
Probably he play in lusa fam,if lusa win wersion is legal,if not ,he sell dc for nothing

Crybaby lol. You honestly are a crybaby. You guys didn't get the win because you won using money trading dupes. You cheated and got busted. Try to play legit and win. Then you'll get your first HoF spot.

you talk about?
Anonymous (08:31:57 - 19-12)
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Anonymous at 17:09:56 on 18/12:
Anonymous at 15:19:46 on 18/12:
#1 atm with more than 1000 busts (~4.2 busts per minute for 4H long) impressive and selling dc's like a madmen i guess x)
Probably he play in lusa fam,if lusa win wersion is legal,if not ,he sell dc for nothing

Crybaby lol. You honestly are a crybaby. You guys didn't get the win because you won using money trading dupes. You cheated and got busted. Try to play legit and win. Then you'll get your first HoF spot.