alot of turk fams will be playing upcoming one to kill portugals and dutch

The plans they'd shoot with such big group leaked quite early hence aeterna had to add more bloods because empire would be blooded both sides they'd have not enough people backing them up.

You are right on the first paragraph but Aeterna blooded Anarchy/Ferrante before that situation developed. Hell that situation only developed because maraz decided to shoot anarchy middle of the night. Which gave faffie a reason to shoot @ maraz

Not at all, people can blood whoever they want. But those Impact/Kurosawa/Gravano/DIG/Provenano/Leviticus/Krays++ plans just leaked, showing they were trying to get Faffie into a war with Marazzino so both of those families couldn't counter for Aeterna (leaving them exposed alone) while they would open fire on Aeterna with around 260 brugliones.

Aeterna just responded by expanding from 3 to 5 bloods and equaling the playing field. I don't see the problem in that since it was obvious from the start both sides were not going to stay one big side like that since both consisted of families that weren't blooded to each other. One of the two sides just executed it extremely weak which caused Aeterna to stand strong even after that war.

faffie sold their bloods , end of discussion...

but that makes no sense? if i wanted to "safe" my account, i would have stayed in capi as fl with the strongst account in the game, capi and "moneymake" were alrdy bloods, and cata had a "we dont attack our bloods blood" thingy going on with their bloods. If my account was SO importent to me last version, i would have accepted the sl that i was offered instead of suiciding on a gf in vila. I just wantet to freaking die.
If i gave a damn about my account this version, i would at least have bought dc's so i could have lackeys running. I would have kept ranking when i got to #1.
You can accuse me of a lot of things, but that one is just wrong :) e.g not carring enough to get anything out of me accounts. But that is me, when i stop having fun, i stop carring. As top last version, stop carring rly was not an option, and i wish i would have been strong enough to finish that version in a better way, but loosing sleep over an onlinegame seemed, i dont know, a bit uhm not worth it, so i desided to take the easy way out, and keep my mental health a bit longer. As i said, im aware that most of the problems there is on me, and i toke the consequences of it, and left, so the rest could try and get it to work. None of this is any of your buiness :-)
This time, what would be the point in leaving? where should i go? what fam would let a strong brug account in, they dont rly know all the well midtgame? i know i would not as top.
The only point i see in you posts is, that it is my point of view on the game that does not fit anymore, and im fin with that, i think my addiction is finally cured. Toke long enoug :)
Best of luck with the upcoming versions.

Instead of blaming Aeterna, i blame the fams weak enough to ask or accept bloodships from Aeterna. Maraz, Empire, Faffie was established pretty early on right? Ferrante/Anarchy blooding Aeterna was just bad gameplay by those two fams. I dont think the fams who blooded Aeterna in the very start liked that they added 2 additional big bloods. Its pretty clear Aeterna would do everything needed in order to win. The excuse that Indelicato blooded Grav, Krays, Prov+ etc is also rather weak. Many fams have alot of haters out there, that doesnt mean they blood the other half of the game

Meh I'm kind of disappointed with your follow up posts. I did expect more tbh but you clearly don't look at the big picture instead get tangled in the smaller one. I see no point in continuing this so this will be my last response to you.

I gave the capitalis example to prove a point. So you are saying that last version you made a promise to one person thats why you left Capitalis but this version you made promises to two people and that was too much to leave Aeterna? :) NO! Last version after Catania died you were left with Maraz as Capitalis and your faiths were tied and it was pretty obvious Maraz was going down. So you decided to leave them,break your commitment, and join Catania people to up a new fam so you could continue with Impact/Anarchy if Maraz died. This version however you decided not to break your word and stay in Aeterna. The only thing common in these both situations were that you chose the path that you could have survived. That's why I was pointing out how your account is important on your decisions and how your decision on joining Aeterna just shows how your actions and words contradict each other. Since you choose to join a power house and have an easier version then joining an underdog and fighting them that's why i mentioned how Faffie would be a nice suit for you :)

I hope you understand the reasoning after the last 3 posts I made and why I turned it personal against you by giving examples of your actions since they were clearly against your words. Anyways I will always like you as a person but that doesn't mean I also respect you. Good luck..

No, I can't say I consider this version fun.
I believe simply blaming Aeterna and their blood decisions would be too easy though.

This version started with a huge akill wave. Some fams got seriously crippled by that even before they went up by losing most of their top rankers (which was fair and everything, but obviously had influence on the rest of the version).

As for the spot distribution, you had a family with a lot of very active players holding the best spots in Detroit. Allowing a family that's as eager to shoot as Faffie to hold those objects is basically an invitation for them to shoot everything that moves without running out of bullets.

Add to that the fact that for the first time in quite a few versions, the opening war wasn't Gravano/Faffie/Anarchy & co. vs. Vaffan/Blackrose/Theogony/Aeterna (yeah, I know, not the same fams, but you get my point.)
This meant the game didn't lose all those strong accounts early on, and it seems the rest of the fams had a hard time handling that (it's much easier to clean the winning side afterwards when they're decimated). I don't think you can blame those fams for wanting to avoid the same opening war for a change. The other fams will just have to learn to live with those changes.

Aeternas blooding, well, it might have been a bit over the top. If you look at the numbers objectively, you'll see they've had around 30-35% of highranks on their side (that's their numbers and direct bloods, and you can probably add another 10% for fams that usually shoot with those bloods and/or their as1's - i.e. Gambino moving with Faffie/Anarchy a lot). Then again, they saw a huge threat in DIG/Prov+ forming an alliance against them, and seeing as Gravano/Impact/Kurosawa joined the first chance they got as well, I believe we've seen worse blood decisions considering their situation (anyone remember Marazzinos blood list?).

So yeah, various reasons this version went the way it did. I believe however that it was a neccessary change to the usual "this-side-vs-that-side"-versions we've seen for a long time, and it might have some positive effects in the long-run. Let's see what those other fams can make out of this new situation.

Lets face it, the version ended with the Death of THE Emlin....
there just isn't enough fun charming people around to carry a version the way I do ;)

I like the Sweety part :p
Was it now or last version i was afraid of loosing me account?
anyways, i fail to see how me leaving capitalis last version is ON topic? but hey im bored, so i'll bite. I made a deal with one person, if i joined capi he would stay too, else he would go play in another fam. And i can promise you, that he totally understood my decision. What went wrong in capi was mostly on me idd, and i have never said anything else :)
again i fail, where did i say my account was importent? i stopped ranking a long time ago, i dont i even have lackeys on, have not had for a long time. And the last part about joining faffie where does that come from? lol

uhm but they were blooded to maraz and faffie long before then? this is getting way to personal, freaking hell, i just wanted to know if this is what ppl find fun

People tried explaining you but you don't respond to that. There were bigger families and alliances that teamed up to shoot them down. What should be done? Just lay on your back and let big alliances who often hug and gangbang their way threw?

They blooded non related families who were also enemies of eachother. Most of their bloods shot at eachother and they ended with 3 families in the end which really shows they tried downscaling pacts and alliances.

Its a small victory for normal families that don't want to pact or join up with alliances.

The only reason I posted anonymously was because what I was saying is more important than my name and because of my name and the family I represent things would have got off topic quickly.

Just so you know I'm not Aeterna Lusa nor Faffie. Just from another incompetent family who saw what was coming but didn't have the power to do anything about it but I'm not going to cry about it and blame AL/Faffie for doing whats necessary to bring them the victory. Instead I choose to blame the rest of the smart asses who waited till the last minute for other families to do the dirty work and martyr their selves so it would be an easy clean up for the ones uninvolved.

This version should be a lesson for certain families. But will they learn and evolve I highly doubt and since the families that are capable of having an impact on the game are not even playing anymore, we are destined to shitty versions run by few certain fams.

See now I'm getting off topic. So back on it, you saying what kept you in Aeterna was the promises you made to certain people and when you realized what the situation was it was too late and the game was "hopelessly uneven". Well if I'm right you made same promises last version to Capitalis you were even a top there but that didn't keep you from leaving them in the middle of the version when you had some issues did it? and sorry sweety but stating that your account is more important then your ideals and principles don't say much about your character does it :) Even though you couldn't have survived by leaving for your beliefs, you could have died trying and that would show there is much more too you but I'm afraid there isn't. Just keep complaining here and join Faffie next version. I'm sure they would welcome a nice ranker like you :)

you calling me names as ano makes you what?
anyways you facts are wrong, you point is right, i joined when maraz was a fam you would never ever blood again, i joined before fidel desided to join you :)
but when i found out i could ofc have left, i could have have joined another fam, I could have done a lot of things, but to be honest by then the version was hopelesly uneven. And i had made promisses to be there to 2 ppl. But yes it does make me a hypocrite.
I am sorry that i dont understand the way you guys see this, im sorry that i totally miss to see what you are saying about needing to play this way. And im sorry that you think im blaming faffie :)
Now all this said, me not agreeing with you, are my problem, i can deside not to play, or i can deside to play in another fam a bit more suided to the way i see the game. I just wanted to know i it was me who was wrong in this or not :)

The 3 powerhouses didn't blood up tho. Based on statspage: Maraz wasn't blooded to Faffie.

Next to that the other big houses were Provenzano++ (same size as Aeterna) wasn't blooded to any of those. Ascension was a good sized alliance and so was Jannisary alliance. All were not connected to them.

@Rose

I don't understand what you are yapping about. You and Amorphis was the last 2 joining Aeterna and you very well knew how big they were going to be. What did you expect they were going to fight everyone on their own?

Its funny that you are accusing Aeterna of picking the easy route to the end via their bloodings when you, your self, picked the easy route and joined the biggest power of the version so your account could live to the end?

Its also amusing to read that you think fams like Faffie should just sacrifice themselves for the greater good and fight the biggest threats every version but not care about their own members and their own survival. When you, your self, don't even bother to be in a family or project to take a stand against these big power houses?

What a hypocrite you are eh? :)

But shame on faffie/aeterna for not letting rest of the incompetent people have some fun..

What I don't get is, why Destination-Prov-Levi and Krays decided to blood Gravano this version.

Gravano are on a downward spiral for the last versions, so that move was like boarding the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.

people will always blame others...either wins are cowardly done...than fams are blamed for always fighting same wars and if you change things up...these fams get blamed for blooding each other.
The reason why this version unfolded as it has is, playmakers > lackeys.
Aeterna and Faffie are fams that can fight even outnumbered on even ground for a not so short time...furthermore they are probably the most warlike of the fams...so they get alot of action and action with this KA means strong accounts. On the other hand...the main threats(each other) are removed that gives alot more confidence as the remaining fams are not that warlike and therefor not so strong.

Maraz wasn't blooded to faffie, or the other way around, which left plenty of opportunities open for other fams to plan something.