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Grannque. (01:17:54 - 19-11)
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so nowadays the versions ends with 11fams alive? blegh.
am Norway (22:56:29 - 18-11)
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Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.

Can I just point out that its chief+, where the + means "and over that rank"....therefore Smul who killed a lot more brugs and GF than Kujala won the star.
Tbag (22:01:25 - 18-11)
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Johnx at 21:53:23 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:50:07 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:44:52 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:40:01 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
u don't know a shit and u didn't see the logs what i saw. so can't try to judge us cuz u have no rights to do that. ah and everyone knows that Vaffanculo is the best bloodseller here. this is the one thing what u are better than us:)
Why would i need logs, i saw the actions brah, actions are what really speak. And I've never ever sold a blood in my time of playing omerta (yet hhuehuehue) so how can you say you as a comment to me, as i've been in vaffanculo, which i've never been in the time i've played this game. U DONT KNOW A SHIT AND U DIDN'T SEE THE LOGS, LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE.
hahah no hard feelings bro no hard feelings just don't comment if U DON'T KNOW A SHIT AGAIN.
But there is the problem, i do know what happened, since i was a witness to it. So if you want to counterproof what actually happened with logs, you kinda have to show them, everyone knows it is the guilty part who has to prove his innocence (duuuhh)
yeah i agree but the thing is we are not the guilty part here so i haven't to prove smth. anyways like i said no hard feelings and not crying, in a mafia game you should be realist and tricky when necessary and vaffan, well played that versy. that's all what u need to know.
Johnx Denmark (21:53:23 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:50:07 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:44:52 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:40:01 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
u don't know a shit and u didn't see the logs what i saw. so can't try to judge us cuz u have no rights to do that. ah and everyone knows that Vaffanculo is the best bloodseller here. this is the one thing what u are better than us:)
Why would i need logs, i saw the actions brah, actions are what really speak. And I've never ever sold a blood in my time of playing omerta (yet hhuehuehue) so how can you say you as a comment to me, as i've been in vaffanculo, which i've never been in the time i've played this game. U DONT KNOW A SHIT AND U DIDN'T SEE THE LOGS, LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE.
hahah no hard feelings bro no hard feelings just don't comment if U DON'T KNOW A SHIT AGAIN.
But there is the problem, i do know what happened, since i was a witness to it. So if you want to counterproof what actually happened with logs, you kinda have to show them, everyone knows it is the guilty part who has to prove his innocence (duuuhh)
Anonymous (21:52:01 - 18-11)
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KUJALA YOU DOG
Tbag (21:50:07 - 18-11)
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Johnx at 21:44:52 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:40:01 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
u don't know a shit and u didn't see the logs what i saw. so can't try to judge us cuz u have no rights to do that. ah and everyone knows that Vaffanculo is the best bloodseller here. this is the one thing what u are better than us:)
Why would i need logs, i saw the actions brah, actions are what really speak. And I've never ever sold a blood in my time of playing omerta (yet hhuehuehue) so how can you say you as a comment to me, as i've been in vaffanculo, which i've never been in the time i've played this game. U DONT KNOW A SHIT AND U DIDN'T SEE THE LOGS, LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE.
hahah no hard feelings bro no hard feelings just don't comment if U DON'T KNOW A SHIT AGAIN.
Anonymous (21:49:49 - 18-11)
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KUJALA SUCK MY PENSIS.
Anonymous (21:45:33 - 18-11)
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its quit clear kujalalovers:

REAL killer Smul:

Kills: 23
Bullets shot 1,820,002 (Backfire: 420,000)

FAKE killer (empty account killer) kujaloser:

Kills: 25
Bullets shot 1,200,000 (Backfire: 0)

Nobody can kill that clean and with 0 bf during wars in whole version :D
Johnx Denmark (21:44:52 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:40:01 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
u don't know a shit and u didn't see the logs what i saw. so can't try to judge us cuz u have no rights to do that. ah and everyone knows that Vaffanculo is the best bloodseller here. this is the one thing what u are better than us:)
Why would i need logs, i saw the actions brah, actions are what really speak. And I've never ever sold a blood in my time of playing omerta (yet hhuehuehue) so how can you say you as a comment to me, as i've been in vaffanculo, which i've never been in the time i've played this game. U DONT KNOW A SHIT AND U DIDN'T SEE THE LOGS, LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE.
Saros`away Netherlands (21:44:28 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:40:01 on 18/11:
Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
u don't know a shit and u didn't see the logs what i saw. so can't try to judge us cuz u have no rights to do that. ah and everyone knows that Vaffanculo is the best bloodseller here. this is the one thing what u are better than us:)

Claiming that's the only thing we are better in.

Ha! Good one.
Anonymous (21:41:11 - 18-11)
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Kujala would kill his own mother if that would grant him top killer xD
Tbag (21:40:01 - 18-11)
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Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
u don't know a shit and u didn't see the logs what i saw. so can't try to judge us cuz u have no rights to do that. ah and everyone knows that Vaffanculo is the best bloodseller here. this is the one thing what u are better than us:)
Aart (21:37:05 - 18-11)
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Johnx at 21:35:20 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
*i'm just sitting here with popcorn :') go on, go on*
Johnx Denmark (21:35:20 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:33:13 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
what shame? the shame Ascension has by all the times you sold your bloods or betrayed?
Tbag (21:33:13 - 18-11)
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Saros`away at 21:31:48 on 18/11:
Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
yea the pain can fade away, that's not my worries. but the shame?
Rokii Denmark (21:32:37 - 18-11)
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Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members <-- Basically, that.

Oh yeah, and the fact that he's trying to justify it by ''not knowing'' whether their BF was on or not. Yeah, wow.
Anonymous (21:32:25 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)
Bloods is not equal to own family, i suppose.
It's all tactic and that version was good one, but if u can remember back in time, ascension/signoria tried to betray vaffan by planning wars on them. They shot before and won version.
But that kujalaaa duuuudeeeeee... Pathetic. :')
Saros`away Netherlands (21:31:48 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)

I see it still hurts, no worries amk, the pain will fade away eventually.
Johnx Denmark (21:31:39 - 18-11)
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Tbag at 21:29:00 on 18/11:
Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)
wasn't hard to sell them, quite the bargain i believe for such cheap bloods.
Tbag (21:29:00 - 18-11)
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Saros`away at 21:25:08 on 18/11:
Anonymous at 21:14:20 on 18/11:
Rokii at 19:53:38 on 18/11:
[16:29] <+Knele> Killing own family for top killer award :)
[16:29] <+Knele> make a top dishonour killer
[16:29] <+Knele> :')
[16:29] <+kujala^work> how can I know their bf is open or close ?

Omg, lol. Dude..
what's ur problem with that? even if kujala killed his own members, he still deserve to win top killer award. he shot bullets? yes. he killed more than smul? yes totaly. so what's wrong with this? btw the rule is clear: "The top killer is the player with the most chief+ kills". if i m wrong kujala is the first player who cheats for "top killer award". it s just funny and i m pretty sure u can find an excuse, u always find:) ah and also jonko killed his members too, i just remembered

Yeah, no.

Jonko never killed anyone inside Vaffanculo at the time.
yeah may be he just sold his own bloods :)