Then the Chief must have messed up with his bodyguards. A decent chief who shoots 60k with attacking bodyguard wiould have killed you easily if you were full attack.

There was no vaffan this version

Out of that list, only faffie are righelli bloods and no provenza werent righelli bloods either

Well i'm a brug, was trained full attack, offline in not my home city, not in villa etc. Got shot by a chief with 60k bullets, survived and killed him in BF. To me, that makes brugs seem a lot stronger than chiefs when defending, but not when attacking.

If that's the case, then I do agree, it's a problem. People should ofc. not die every single time, they were shot at - especially not, if the shooter is way weaker. But I still think it's too early to conclude anything - these wars were mainly between chiefs and low brugs.

It all leads to the Bruglione rank being too weak from the start off. Before you have enough account strength to shoot safely you need to have atleast 400k or so more bullets than your opponent or so..that is not realistic. Apparently only backfire has been modified to be a little stronger.

But that did not solve the problem of people dying too easily..not talking about backfire kills but defending.

I haven't played for a while and have just returned a bit, but I still wonder if it isn't too early to conclude something and trip all out? This is still the beginning of the version, which means that a difference of 60k bullets between two account might actually mean, that the difference in bulletsposition becomes unnaturally big, since a lot of people will have something in between - but overall then 60k isn't that big a difference in account strenght, hence the account with the high bullets position won't have that big an advantage as the numbers dictate. Same goes for all the other stats.

Maybe we should wait a bit to conclude something, untill the differences in stats actually reflect a big difference, and if the same still occurs, then it's ok to bitch - then I even agree. :-)
It was your own choice to start wars right in the beginning of the version (and it seems like it was the case in all the last versions so nothing new), so you can't bitch about the KA, before there actually is a significant difference in strength of the accounts you compare. If you had waited a few weeks before you attacked, then the outcome might have been different, but you decided to rush these wars through, hence you might have been served as deserved....

though provenzano was righelli's bloods:')

righelli, trafficante and nazdrovia. All the same pussy! This is a maffiagame. Shooting is part of it. Play sims if you want build something

Well you wanted 2.2 similar KA.. This is how it was back then,. And wars filled with backfire kills were happening then aswell..

but the one thing everyone seems to forget is at the start of a version esp with lackeys these days, there's rly not that big of a difference between a #44 brug and a #242 chief, same goes for the bullets ...

sure bf is a bit too strong, but the very example above if ppl want a different KA with stronger bf a bf kill can be expected imo

Bulletposition 1300, check my achievements.

Kcode will never admit he is wrong, Ofcourse this is gonna be a long version, all fam's will wait to get attacked in stead of attacking theirselves..

The only bullets i'll shoot will be in backfire :W

1.3k bullets? or 13k bullets?

Thanks for the publicity. :-) Anyways we have seen too many near impossible BFs. We have heard bulletcounts should be worth more etc. Last night for example i shot a chief with 1300 bulletpos and 1.5% onlinetime. He would have max 30k bullets or so if im not entirely mistaken. I survived with 1 health, minus 3bgs and 1 suit. While i was #44 rp and #13 bullets. If the time i(and others) invest in this game, simply doesnt matter, its no fucking point doing so anymore. I could do equal damage barely being online, just fixing lackeys from time to time.

Lets all start collecting flowers. This shooting doesnt do anyone good :''')

+1

Chief on Chief, shooter att trained, 17k preshot -> BF kill
Brug on the same Chief shortly after that -> BF kill
Brug: RP: #44, Bullets: #13
Chief: RP: #242, Bullets: #231

Move along folks, nothing to see here!

Amen.

Exactly as I predicted.

People ask for a less-attacking friendly KA..what does crew do..? 'slightly' tweak backfire and make it overpowered. What we really asked for is stronger accounts that survive 60k, not necessarily much stronger backfire.

There is NO way anymore to properly defend your account. Items get destroyed and have awfully long timers on them so you cant rebuy, if you somehow manage to survive an attempt.

I asked Kcode about this and he thought it's fair that 90% of the attempts are successfull because people shoot 60k..he expects us to do more pre-shoots. Pre-shoots that are impossible with double backfire settings still existing.

They felll into the trap, lets see if they are willing to listen to experienced players.

This is a suicide KA where a Brug account is just as much worth as an Assassin.

in my opinion righ blooded both sides so they could play neutral and not lose numbers in the start.

Vaffa+, Grav, Gambino, Faffie, Pav, Anarchy