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Novu (02:54:07 - 11-04)
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@Deston, I was the one who involved Denmark in the "USA - Norway - who is the better" discussion. Since I'm Danish and Denmark and Norway is much alike, I felt I would contribute to that discussion better by talking about something I knew firsthand, instead of talking about USA and Norway where I actually haven't been to either place yet.
Novu (02:52:03 - 11-04)
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hahaha at 02:31:27 on 11/04:
Haha yes exactly, now days you can "visit" anywhere online, I would only want to go experience more culture and people not so much the places. If I had the $$ I'd love to visit every country in the world and live there for a few weeks or months just to have the full experience :)

And when you are reasonably intelligent and motivated you can make a living for yourself anywhere, it is really where you want to be in what circumstances. I LOVE the weather here, I couldn't stand living in the northern region even in the USA but coming from Denmark you may be more comfortable in a northern states whereas I like the south.

To find the group of people and climates that suit you best you should travel around like you said, I would give myself 2 months if I were you though. My family did a "cross country road trip" and saw probably 80% of the states/country for a few days (up to about 5 in Vegas I think) and it took I think a month and a half almost so if you want more than a "drive through" experience you should give a little more time. Based on what you can afford of course :)

And anything you see about America on tv you can probably find in one state and city or another just because of the sheer size population and mix of culture that is America lol

I'm thinking for Europeans it will be easiest to fit in on the East coast or in California, so that's where I'll visit for sure. The view I have of the South is, excuse me, mostly of hillbillys and very religious ppl, which I don't do good with as long as they want to condemn you for not being very religious and believing the same as them. I will go investigate myself though, cause again what you see on TV and hear from ppl can be very different from your own experiences. I would like to kinda zigzag up and down the country. As for the time used around the country it's hard to decide. There's really a lot to see and if I could afford it, I'd stay as long as I felt I would need and just sorta take 1 day at a time, but that's pretty much unrealistic :P Should I ever go live there, I would love to sail to New York and see the Statue of Liberty as the first thing etc. Not that it means anything liberty/freedom related to me, I'm not oppressed, it's just more of a nostalgic thing :P
Deston Palestinian Territory, Occupied (02:35:44 - 11-04)
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hahaha at 15:25:23 on 10/04:
I love websites where the admins flame more than the players :')

I assure you my family income is 4 times what yours is without even asking, you are correct there are a lot of worthless people here, but if you compare our country to yours the only thing you have ever conquered is whale blubber and rotten shark meat, talking about military action is lost on deaf ears.

Congratulations at moving out of your family home at 43 years old \o/

I forgive you probably mostly due to the fact that you barely complete highschool before you are considered "educated" for a Norwegian based on your little fact list :')
You've got to be pretty fucking retarded to think Norway is poor, but then again claiming you're family is '4 times as big' is a good indication of what is your family. You even mentioned your country is overpopulated, well thank the heavens, cause it's mostly idiots like you that contribute to that.

ps. What has Denmark got to do with it?
hahaha United States (02:31:27 - 11-04)
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Haha yes exactly, now days you can "visit" anywhere online, I would only want to go experience more culture and people not so much the places. If I had the $$ I'd love to visit every country in the world and live there for a few weeks or months just to have the full experience :)

And when you are reasonably intelligent and motivated you can make a living for yourself anywhere, it is really where you want to be in what circumstances. I LOVE the weather here, I couldn't stand living in the northern region even in the USA but coming from Denmark you may be more comfortable in a northern states whereas I like the south.

To find the group of people and climates that suit you best you should travel around like you said, I would give myself 2 months if I were you though. My family did a "cross country road trip" and saw probably 80% of the states/country for a few days (up to about 5 in Vegas I think) and it took I think a month and a half almost so if you want more than a "drive through" experience you should give a little more time. Based on what you can afford of course :)

And anything you see about America on tv you can probably find in one state and city or another just because of the sheer size population and mix of culture that is America lol
Novu (01:37:04 - 11-04)
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hahaha at 00:50:31 on 11/04:
I applaud the nice un biased write up and I agree, But it depends where in society you live and in what area of any country, if you look at a country as a whole (GDP welfare weather healthcare schools taxes or etc) you can only apply that to 10-20% the rest is richer/poorer overcrowded/less crowded hotter/colder richer/poorer that figure is only a median.

There are loads of shortcomings with any country, no 1 country is perfect, but depending where you live and the means you have to live on you can have your own utopia :)

What are your goals for coming to the US? You are right about making it big in business but you have to have a good plan, good strategy, product Also the backing for it and a market. Or were you just going to come tour :) Lots of land, little to actually see :P

Compared to everywhere else there is not as much history as it is a relatively new country in comparison so less to actually "tour" in my opinion

Well the gap between rich and poor is small in Denmark whereas it is large in the USA. Here it doesn't matter too much about the area of the country, but we are also tiny, and yet you can still see a difference between our less populated areas and our bigger cities in the sense of job opportunities definitely.

I'll definitely agree there is no perfect country. I have searched. I'm thinking Switzerland could be a good choice actually, but it's not hot enough for me there, and official language isn't English, although I do speak German also.

I'm not sure if I have any specific goals or let's say one primary goal with going to the US. I think a lot of it is this whole American Dream thing, although most likely I won't be better off there than here. Business-wise I feel the taxes block me in Denmark. It's actually easy to start a business here, we have little bureaucracy compared to other countries etc, but the taxes aargh. I just don't want to invest 60-80 hours a week on starting whatever business, when the state take as large a bite of the money as they do. The extra pay-off simply isn't that big when you compare a high paid normal job vs. starting a business and think of the extra hours you have to put into it. It's also harder to find funding for business start-ups here compared to USA, there's a lot more venture capital over there for example, if you need that. Competition in the USA is pbb harder, but that only makes it that much more exciting. I imagine I'll start with a month long vacation to check out places and see if I like the atmosphere so to speak, if I can picture myself living there. What you see on TV and what you experience in reality is often very different :P If I like it, I imagine settling for a couple years at first, and if it's great I might end up staying. The weather is a big part of it for me, cause I dislike the rainy, sad, grey weather we have here a lot of the year and alternatively I could move to France or Spain, but I don't speak neither language atm :) I think it's all about just wanting to try something different from living my whole life here like everyone else :P It's about making your own future I think, and it seems in many ways to be more exciting over there.

I like history, so I guess it's weird I would move to America, but in reality then most history is approached through books and TV and little is visited. I imagine I can visit just as many historic sites still on summer vacations etc. :)
counselor Canada (01:17:29 - 11-04)
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Anyone ever read a book by Ramana Maharshi?
hahaha United States (00:50:31 - 11-04)
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I applaud the nice un biased write up and I agree, But it depends where in society you live and in what area of any country, if you look at a country as a whole (GDP welfare weather healthcare schools taxes or etc) you can only apply that to 10-20% the rest is richer/poorer overcrowded/less crowded hotter/colder richer/poorer that figure is only a median.

There are loads of shortcomings with any country, no 1 country is perfect, but depending where you live and the means you have to live on you can have your own utopia :)

What are your goals for coming to the US? You are right about making it big in business but you have to have a good plan, good strategy, product Also the backing for it and a market. Or were you just going to come tour :) Lots of land, little to actually see :P

Compared to everywhere else there is not as much history as it is a relatively new country in comparison so less to actually "tour" in my opinion
Novu (00:25:57 - 11-04)
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This is a rather long post, and please don't comment unless you read the whole thing, thank you.
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If you really want to talk about which is the greatest country in the world, you'll have to define first. I won't do that, I'll just comment from my perspective.

USA is on so many levels a third world country. Yes I said it. There are so many things wrong with that country and it amazes me that they would support any official third world countries with development money - they should start by supporting themselves. 1 in 6 (16% or 49.1 million) in the USA is poor. [I had a link to an article with those numbers here, but was told it was too long, sorry] Greatest country in the world? Sure as hell ain't. What good is it to measure the GDP per capita in USA, if all that GDP is in the hands of those infamous 1%?

In my book there needs to be a state that collects taxes to make sure everyone has free health care and free education (maybe not necessarily for university levels) and both to an acceptable standard. I hear many public schools in USA are rubbish.

In the USA you're living on the edge, there's never long to the bottom. In the European welfare states there's a security net under the population. That is in many ways good I guess, but the European countries ain't all that good either. I'm Danish. We have the highest taxes in the world. When we buy a new car, the state puts a 180% tax on it. We're a safe country. We got free education and free health care. Low crime rates ("Poverty is the mother of crime" + We don't have a ridiculous gun law like in the USA). So what is in my eyes wrong with my own country? Well, I don't really like that security net. I don't feel like I have a huge incentive to work. The state will pick me up if I don't work, make sure I'm good. When I work the state will take about 50% of what I earn. It seems empty and stupid to become a worker bee for the state. Compared to many countries us Danes really are born with a silverspoon up our asses imo, but we still complain until we get out into the outside world and see how priviledged we are at home.

So with the obvious shortcomings of the USA and the alledged paradise I live in, why would I ever want to even consider moving to the USA? (Which I would like to at least try one day).

Well I think the USA is still unquestionable the country where you got the best opportunities to make it big in business for example. They have a homemarket of 300+ million, in Denmark we have 5+ million. A marginal market share wouldn't make you rich here, but it pbb would in the USA. You have lower taxes, so you actually get paid for your work. And then I like the idea of the more or less lacking security net. You have to take responsibility for your own life, sometimes I feel like that's unthinkable in Denmark. Many people don't even save up enough money to get by if they get fired, cause they just get money from the state instead. And then important for me: for example California is sunny and warm, Denmark got "London weather" :/

In my opinion neither USA or European welfare states are the best. For me it would be something in the middle of those.

And I don't consider myself a capitalist nor a socialist.

(PS. Glad to see the nutcase Rick Santorum dropped out of the election. Never mix politics and religion that's a no-go!)

Oh and I think this whole discussion started by talking about military power? There's no doubt USA is the #1 military power by far. However considering the money they spent, they have got to be #1 also. Just don't forget this money is spent at the expense of other important things like better public schools, healthcare etc.
hahaha United States (20:09:41 - 10-04)
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Plus then redspeert would shoot me for riling him up ^^

You guys are playing right?
hahaha United States (20:03:26 - 10-04)
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sbanks at 19:56:40 on 10/04:
hahaha at 19:14:22 on 10/04:
Sbanks are you going to make an Sbanks family this version?


only if you will join and be Don!


hahahaha _o_

I would gladly be the Sbanks family GF but why would you give the honor away! You are after all SBanks yourself XD
sbanks Guatemala (19:56:40 - 10-04)
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hahaha at 19:14:22 on 10/04:
Sbanks are you going to make an Sbanks family this version?


only if you will join and be Don!
hahaha United States (19:14:22 - 10-04)
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Sbanks are you going to make an Sbanks family this version?

hahaha United States (19:13:21 - 10-04)
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microbi at 18:12:45 on 10/04:
Two old pensioners are taking a trip down memory lane by going back to the place where they first met.

Sitting at a caf?, the little old man says, "Remember the first time I met you over 50 years ago? We left this cafe, went round the corner behind the gas works, and I gave you one from behind."

"Why, yes, I remember it well, dear," replies the little old lady with a grin.

"Well, for old time's sake, let's go there again. and I'll give you one from behind."

The two pensioners pay their bill and leave the cafe. A young man sitting next to them has overheard the conversation and smiles to himself, thinking it would be quite amusing to see two old pensioners at it. He gets up and follows them. Sure enough, he sees the two pensioners near the gas works. The little old lady pulls off her knickers and lifts up her dress.

The old man pulls down his pants and grabs the lady's hips, and the little old lady reaches for the fence. Well, what follows is 40 minutes of the most athletic sex the man has ever seen. The little old man is banging away at the little old woman at a pace that can only be described as phenomenal. Limbs are flying everywhere, the movement is a blur, and they do not stop for a single second. Finally, they collapse and don't move for an hour.

Well, the man is stunned. Never in his life has he ever seen anything that equates to this -- not in the movies, not from his friends, not from his own experiences.

Reflecting on what he has just seen, he says to himself, "I have to know his secret. If only I could shag like that now, let alone in 50 years' time!"

The two old pensioners have by this time recovered and dressed themselves. Plucking up courage, the man approaches the pensioner.

He says, "Sir, in all my life I have never seen anybody shag like that, particularly at your age. What's your secret? Could you shag like that 50 years ago?"

The pensioner replies, "Son, 50 years ago, that fucking fence wasn't electrified."


hahahaha Nice one, but you can't change the topic, this guy is too funny, it is constant jokes from him :)


Redspeert at 15:39:28 on 10/04:

You are so stupid that even a redneck in Georgia would shake his head and claim the country is going to hell.

You would know Redspeert you think and type exactly like the "rednecks" I have met from Ga.

Which is funny you pick that state to fail at stereotyping with your uneducated opinions since the "rednecks" are probably less than 1/8th of the population in Ga. and you have no idea :')

Back to google searching for you to try and show of that superior intelligence you possess :')
sbanks Guatemala (18:51:21 - 10-04)
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microbi at 17:51:39 on 10/04:
Just facts, flaming wont do any good...

"World education rankings: which country does best at reading, maths and science?"

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/
Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/12/7/
1291740184391/PISA-rankings-within-OECD-001.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/
datablog/2010/dec/07/
world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading

source: guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 7 December 2010


Greetings from Finland
:w


ps. had to put links like that because I got this "Error!
You have used too long words, and therefor your comment hasn't been added. The maximum amount of characters per word is 50."

use the BB code --> [ url= "http...."> name [ /url ]
microbi (18:12:45 - 10-04)
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Two old pensioners are taking a trip down memory lane by going back to the place where they first met.

Sitting at a caf?, the little old man says, "Remember the first time I met you over 50 years ago? We left this cafe, went round the corner behind the gas works, and I gave you one from behind."

"Why, yes, I remember it well, dear," replies the little old lady with a grin.

"Well, for old time's sake, let's go there again. and I'll give you one from behind."

The two pensioners pay their bill and leave the cafe. A young man sitting next to them has overheard the conversation and smiles to himself, thinking it would be quite amusing to see two old pensioners at it. He gets up and follows them. Sure enough, he sees the two pensioners near the gas works. The little old lady pulls off her knickers and lifts up her dress.

The old man pulls down his pants and grabs the lady's hips, and the little old lady reaches for the fence. Well, what follows is 40 minutes of the most athletic sex the man has ever seen. The little old man is banging away at the little old woman at a pace that can only be described as phenomenal. Limbs are flying everywhere, the movement is a blur, and they do not stop for a single second. Finally, they collapse and don't move for an hour.

Well, the man is stunned. Never in his life has he ever seen anything that equates to this -- not in the movies, not from his friends, not from his own experiences.

Reflecting on what he has just seen, he says to himself, "I have to know his secret. If only I could shag like that now, let alone in 50 years' time!"

The two old pensioners have by this time recovered and dressed themselves. Plucking up courage, the man approaches the pensioner.

He says, "Sir, in all my life I have never seen anybody shag like that, particularly at your age. What's your secret? Could you shag like that 50 years ago?"

The pensioner replies, "Son, 50 years ago, that fucking fence wasn't electrified."
Barayev Bahrain (17:55:18 - 10-04)
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ITT: My stupidass country is better than your stupidass country.

inb4 Portugal sucks.
microbi (17:51:39 - 10-04)
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Just facts, flaming wont do any good...

"World education rankings: which country does best at reading, maths and science?"

http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/
Guardian/Pix/pictures/2010/12/7/
1291740184391/PISA-rankings-within-OECD-001.jpg

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/
datablog/2010/dec/07/
world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading

source: guardian.co.uk, Tuesday 7 December 2010


Greetings from Finland
:w


ps. had to put links like that because I got this "Error!
You have used too long words, and therefor your comment hasn't been added. The maximum amount of characters per word is 50."
Rambo (16:23:40 - 10-04)
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hahaha at 15:37:08 on 10/04:
me at 15:33:55 on 10/04:
hahaha at 15:25:23 on 10/04:
I love websites where the admins flame more than the players :')

I assure you my family income is 4 times what yours is without even asking, you are correct there are a lot of worthless people here, but if you compare our country to yours the only thing you have ever conquered is whale blubber and rotten shark meat, talking about military action is lost on deaf ears.

Congratulations at moving out of your family home at 43 years old \o/

I forgive you probably mostly due to the fact that you barely complete highschool before you are considered "educated" for a Norwegian based on your little fact list :')

uh oh don't talk about education. I'm sure there are exceptions, but as a whole, USA's education scares me.

Oh my God it scares the hell out of me. Half of the people in the USA are probably drop outs with 8 years of schooling or immigrants with less. Fortunately that is also based heavily on location, where I'm from if you don't have a 4 year degree from a credited college you can't even get a good job.

You are full of shit too.
Rambo (15:54:42 - 10-04)
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Redspeert at 15:39:28 on 10/04:
hahaha at 15:25:23 on 10/04:
I love websites where the admins flame more than the players :')

I assure you my family income is 4 times what yours is without even asking, you are correct there are a lot of worthless people here, but if you compare our country to yours the only thing you have ever conquered is whale blubber and rotten shark meat, talking about military action is lost on deaf ears.

Congratulations at moving out of your family home at 43 years old \o/

I forgive you probably mostly due to the fact that you barely complete highschool before you are considered "educated" for a Norwegian based on your little fact list :')


You are so stupid that even a redneck in Georgia would shake his head and claim the country is going to hell. I don't know your familys income, but looking at how you behave and write I'd say its a small amount - Unless the welfare is really good in the states of america. What you are right about is conquering, as we kinda stopped that around 1000 years ago and became civilized, somthing you and your likes yet have failed to become. I'd tell you about the warfare of Scandinavia from 700 to around 1050, but its a waste of typing as you are most likley too stupid to even understand the easiest parts.

And about education, don't make me laugh buddy. Your country education is a joke compared to most countries - maybe you beat some of the east european countries, but it will be a hard race.


Fuck off hey.

The only thing wrong with our education system is people choose to not go. You cannot compare ours to other countries that have 1/10th the population and are run with a socialist government.
Kyra Seychelles (15:50:59 - 10-04)
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Redspeert at 15:39:28 on 10/04:
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And about education, don't make me laugh buddy. Your country education is a joke compared to most countries - maybe you beat some of the east european countries, but it will be a hard race.

I'm east European, and trust me , at least till recently, people who finished uni here, had a hell lot of more knowledge then most west European ones.
Since we started to "copy" the west model everything went down hill