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General Comments & Major Rumors
18:02:44 - 15-04
General Comments & Major Rumors
21:00:58 - 09-04
Johnson at 16:29:40 on 09/04:
no but neither is it proof they dont...And why wouldnt they, makes perfect sense from a commercial point of view.. :)
sbanks at 15:25:34 on 09/04:
well thats no solid proof :p
Anonymous at 15:18:27 on 09/04:
They admitted that a couple of versions ago. I am 100% sure.
They have been doing it for ages actually. I remember versions where we just had reset and after 1-2 minutes we saw bids of 300k on DC's.
sbanks at 15:11:11 on 09/04:
proof?
Anonymous at 14:57:51 on 09/04:
Btw. Admins are buying DC`s on obay for 1 million a piece. Free-to-play? My ass.
Btw. Admins are buying DC`s on obay for 1 million a piece. Free-to-play? My ass.
proof?
They admitted that a couple of versions ago. I am 100% sure.
They have been doing it for ages actually. I remember versions where we just had reset and after 1-2 minutes we saw bids of 300k on DC's.
well thats no solid proof :p
no but neither is it proof they dont...And why wouldnt they, makes perfect sense from a commercial point of view.. :)
I can tell you unequivocally it happens. Big deal, it's part of running a company.
02-04 And the winner is?
18:27:11 - 02-04
In the interest of maintaining my reputation as a braggart I want to say Presidential was in many more wars than what we are identified as participants in.
Ofc, this is the case for many families, but in several of those unidentified wars Presi was responsible for nearly every opposing GF kill. Just thought I'd drop some knowledge on ya.
Regardless though, its clear Presi were not the winners this version.
Ofc, this is the case for many families, but in several of those unidentified wars Presi was responsible for nearly every opposing GF kill. Just thought I'd drop some knowledge on ya.
Regardless though, its clear Presi were not the winners this version.
General Comments & Major Rumors
05:38:33 - 02-04
Mcgee at 02:30:30 on 02/04:
Im kind of horny I haven't had an erection since v2.7
Im kind of horny I haven't had an erection since v2.7
that's not what your mom says
31-03 Retro on the loose
09:54:16 - 01-04
I'm the only retro thing in this game, fuckin' imposters.
General Comments & Major Rumors
01:56:49 - 28-03
ElMariachi at 23:52:46 on 27/03:
Well I kinda have to agree on some parts: we came from .nl to see what we could do on .com, started the version before any fam was even up yet with a bloodcircle of fams my fellow tops played with in 3.1 as Invocandi and a smaller part of Balashikha. The lack of competition was a bit disappointing on the other hand some strategic planned moves like the war on Krays to lure Marazzino into a trap and the help from SLC on Turkuz/Yigidos worked out well for us, also the fact that some other fams attacked the cicle individual instead of a mass co-op to do as much damage as possible. We can look back at a version where the bloods circle Quirites is part of dictated the version from start to end which is not a bad accomplishment on .com imo. Looking back at the fam stats 1 month after 1st fams where up I would not have predicted it would be this "easy" to get where we are now. So personally for us the version as Quirites project was a succes, but overall this version was pretty disappointing and we expected a bit more...
Anonymous at 23:06:11 on 27/03:
Good for him, at least wasnt his fam used and them shooted was the other way :)
im not angry, i just think the way the version was played wasnt the better, and i guess a fam like quirites didnt even had real competion but if they are happy to have a version like this one, good for him again. Same way to Liberta atm looks like a mix from Liberta+Violenza, didnt even was a main target of anyway war, if they are happy to , good for them also, just carefull last time tops from Liberta mix with Violenza i heard MT and some others screaming like hell.
Anyway its the version ppl chose to play :) gratzzz winners Conflict +Vincitori +LibertMIXvio +marrangello +Quirites
we still have the last act, its gonna be like 3.0.
Reset will be anounced and some will be pissed cos they wanna kill Bruinsma and Righelli others will cry cos they wanna kill Hangover, Caliente and Presi.
Proly that can fuck the relations fams have atm ot not, allways the same history... PPl will blame Admins but in my opinion its Players Fault
Redspeert at 22:52:22 on 27/03:
I know you are angry, but don't insult ElMariachi claiming he is a top of Purga, as he is a top of Quirites.
Anonymous at 22:43:23 on 27/03:
i got killed by the Reset Pact on the 1º war of this version, after that i put my lackey account ranking only with nick cars ranked to Lc and kill a Brug with +/- 350 rank points and bullet position from vincitori @ 05-03 war, atm ranking full speed to brug and ready to help any hijack!
Now tell me, wasnt you a Top from Purga?? what did you do besides having some gangbangs with the reset pact and got killed by the same guys??
ElMariachi at 21:50:56 on 27/03:
and what exactly did you do this version with your precious lackey acc :')
Anonymous at 19:00:39 on 27/03:
3.3 worst version ever, not even 1 hijack, ppl dont even wanna lose a lackey brug account trying, fags :W
3.3 worst version ever, not even 1 hijack, ppl dont even wanna lose a lackey brug account trying, fags :W
and what exactly did you do this version with your precious lackey acc :')
Now tell me, wasnt you a Top from Purga?? what did you do besides having some gangbangs with the reset pact and got killed by the same guys??
I know you are angry, but don't insult ElMariachi claiming he is a top of Purga, as he is a top of Quirites.
im not angry, i just think the way the version was played wasnt the better, and i guess a fam like quirites didnt even had real competion but if they are happy to have a version like this one, good for him again. Same way to Liberta atm looks like a mix from Liberta+Violenza, didnt even was a main target of anyway war, if they are happy to , good for them also, just carefull last time tops from Liberta mix with Violenza i heard MT and some others screaming like hell.
Anyway its the version ppl chose to play :) gratzzz winners Conflict +Vincitori +LibertMIXvio +marrangello +Quirites
we still have the last act, its gonna be like 3.0.
Reset will be anounced and some will be pissed cos they wanna kill Bruinsma and Righelli others will cry cos they wanna kill Hangover, Caliente and Presi.
Proly that can fuck the relations fams have atm ot not, allways the same history... PPl will blame Admins but in my opinion its Players Fault
Well I kinda have to agree on some parts: we came from .nl to see what we could do on .com, started the version before any fam was even up yet with a bloodcircle of fams my fellow tops played with in 3.1 as Invocandi and a smaller part of Balashikha. The lack of competition was a bit disappointing on the other hand some strategic planned moves like the war on Krays to lure Marazzino into a trap and the help from SLC on Turkuz/Yigidos worked out well for us, also the fact that some other fams attacked the cicle individual instead of a mass co-op to do as much damage as possible. We can look back at a version where the bloods circle Quirites is part of dictated the version from start to end which is not a bad accomplishment on .com imo. Looking back at the fam stats 1 month after 1st fams where up I would not have predicted it would be this "easy" to get where we are now. So personally for us the version as Quirites project was a succes, but overall this version was pretty disappointing and we expected a bit more...
Don't get me wrong you guys played well and I give you guys mad props for coming to a foreign server, but you also came for the first version I've witness where it was designed in such a way that massive families are already set up with an insane advantage with competent leadership. It wasn't about the core strength of families, it was about numbers. You guys came over with good numbers, competent leaders, some server vets, and started off well connected. You could be running a family of 5 year olds this version, but if your numbers are high, you were set to dominate. The Conflict Vinci Marangello Gravano etc crew was already set to thoroughly crush the version, you guys helped sure, but this is a bad version to gauge .com. Stick around for next version man, I think you can expect more of a challenge.
25-03 Wild night
00:32:10 - 26-03
tlg at 23:58:38 on 25/03:
Suicide? come on! There is no way to consider this action as suiciding. if it was, they would be alive.
Suicide? come on! There is no way to consider this action as suiciding. if it was, they would be alive.
http://i.qkme.me/352qp7.jpg
14-03 Pi Day war
23:49:12 - 15-03
Smul at 12:40:47 on 15/03:
It's funny how some people were not bothered at all at the start of the version, when lackey accounts, with the sole purpose of suiciding on top accounts in a war (as supposed to be a set up for the kill by a stronger account), actually killed their targets, top10 accounts killed by #1500 and such. You didn't hear them then, as it was in their favor. Now they have a couple of these cases themselves and everywhere you look (omerta forums, these forums) you see them talking about conspiracies. "Flagged accounts" "Changes in KA". Gotta love the Hypocrisy.
At least have the balls to talk about it in both occasions, and not just when it's bad for yourself.
It's funny how some people were not bothered at all at the start of the version, when lackey accounts, with the sole purpose of suiciding on top accounts in a war (as supposed to be a set up for the kill by a stronger account), actually killed their targets, top10 accounts killed by #1500 and such. You didn't hear them then, as it was in their favor. Now they have a couple of these cases themselves and everywhere you look (omerta forums, these forums) you see them talking about conspiracies. "Flagged accounts" "Changes in KA". Gotta love the Hypocrisy.
At least have the balls to talk about it in both occasions, and not just when it's bad for yourself.
Smul, this post is a tongue-in-cheek right? The logic in this post (or rather, lack thereof) makes me want to lobotomize myself.
05-03 Pepe le Pew pew!
07:54:14 - 06-03
RIP to those who died shooting and to those who died getting shot. Play on!
General Comments & Major Rumors
06:46:49 - 29-02
Deston at 04:22:41 on 29/02:
Talk about integrity and hijack in the same post?
Brusakin at 02:53:15 on 29/02:
I disagree, 36 families is alright, just blood 2-3 families each and you got a great game, with actual winners instead of just another piece of shit verison like this. Would be great to win with just you and your 2 bloods around wouldn't it? Then you really won, these guys, They at least win the award of biggest pact without any other alliance which comes even close to their power.
And why? They wanted to stop Leviticus/Gamb/IDT/Turkuz from doing the same they did last version, the only thing they did was turn themselves into the people they loath. There's only a few families with real integrity left, they are easy to spot really, even if there's such a big pile of shit which does block your view.
If you all whine about pacts, join a family which never makes a pact. If they make the same mistake you hijack them. Easy as that.
Anonymous at 00:33:39 on 29/02:
Then there would have been another reasons to group up. That's mainly a thing of players' mentality. And the problem was, that fams who did no go up at first gathered in too few other fams, and that those decided to blood each other early on. Still the version could have been saved at the first "War" if the other non-packed fams, would've realized what was going on and decided to put their personal issues (hello to Turkuz and Maraz and to Krays and Gambino), aside for a moment and worked together. Maybe the gangbang of Venture was the very last moment all non-pact fams together could have done something, instead of settling old scores (hello, Maraz again), and decided to actually help Venture. When Turkuz+ was gangbanged, the point of no-return had long been passed. All would've, could've and should've about missed opportunities are courtesy of Captain Hindsight
Anyway, I agree 36 was a too small number of fams. But you have ro remember why the fam. limit was installed in first place. Towards the end of last version (the last month or two), those one man fams start to pop up. Just to get another CDC.
The real error was to remove the CDC Rank for Capos and toward it to Brugs with 0 CM as long as they are Don of a family.
I am not sure how to solve that problem. With lackeys gathering CM has become even easier.
So bringing back CDC for Capos and make it tougher to become CDC in terms of CM (for GF).
I would also raise the required CM for GF rank massively, but I am kinda sure, a lot of people will object to this.
The other - in theory good - idea, behind limited fam spots was, to create competition, if you want to start a sis-fam shoot for the fam spot.
46 spots looks like a reasonable enough number.
Anonymous at 22:08:57 on 28/02:
Version has been closed; +20 families in a side with +550 brugs, the rest with not even 200 brugs.
As I had posted some months ago, 36 families wasn't nice for the game.
Admins and people voted 36 families have done a fatal error for this version.
Minimum 50 families by version, as I had voted.
Version has been closed; +20 families in a side with +550 brugs, the rest with not even 200 brugs.
As I had posted some months ago, 36 families wasn't nice for the game.
Admins and people voted 36 families have done a fatal error for this version.
Minimum 50 families by version, as I had voted.
Then there would have been another reasons to group up. That's mainly a thing of players' mentality. And the problem was, that fams who did no go up at first gathered in too few other fams, and that those decided to blood each other early on. Still the version could have been saved at the first "War" if the other non-packed fams, would've realized what was going on and decided to put their personal issues (hello to Turkuz and Maraz and to Krays and Gambino), aside for a moment and worked together. Maybe the gangbang of Venture was the very last moment all non-pact fams together could have done something, instead of settling old scores (hello, Maraz again), and decided to actually help Venture. When Turkuz+ was gangbanged, the point of no-return had long been passed. All would've, could've and should've about missed opportunities are courtesy of Captain Hindsight
Anyway, I agree 36 was a too small number of fams. But you have ro remember why the fam. limit was installed in first place. Towards the end of last version (the last month or two), those one man fams start to pop up. Just to get another CDC.
The real error was to remove the CDC Rank for Capos and toward it to Brugs with 0 CM as long as they are Don of a family.
I am not sure how to solve that problem. With lackeys gathering CM has become even easier.
So bringing back CDC for Capos and make it tougher to become CDC in terms of CM (for GF).
I would also raise the required CM for GF rank massively, but I am kinda sure, a lot of people will object to this.
The other - in theory good - idea, behind limited fam spots was, to create competition, if you want to start a sis-fam shoot for the fam spot.
46 spots looks like a reasonable enough number.
I disagree, 36 families is alright, just blood 2-3 families each and you got a great game, with actual winners instead of just another piece of shit verison like this. Would be great to win with just you and your 2 bloods around wouldn't it? Then you really won, these guys, They at least win the award of biggest pact without any other alliance which comes even close to their power.
And why? They wanted to stop Leviticus/Gamb/IDT/Turkuz from doing the same they did last version, the only thing they did was turn themselves into the people they loath. There's only a few families with real integrity left, they are easy to spot really, even if there's such a big pile of shit which does block your view.
If you all whine about pacts, join a family which never makes a pact. If they make the same mistake you hijack them. Easy as that.
Those two arent always mutually exclusive :p Though yes Brusakin was a bit hypocritical in the way he stated things.
I'm just going to c/p my last post cuz it got no love and I think that even though I was drunk when I wrote it, the points are still poignant.
Mickay at 08:40:46 on 19/02:
One of my chief complaints is certainly lackeys (particularly sluggs). But to answer your "why would more families make the game better" remark I would say consider this. One of the reasons we had more wars last version than this version is because with 100 families, the sides were not so cut and dry. One could hit at the outer edges, to weaken an alliance indirectly. Kind of a Cold War of sorts, with sphere's of influence. Via proxy wars, families could strengthen or weaken their standing. It also meant that there were Alliances within larger alliances, which gives a whole other war dimension, more diversity means more excitement... There's no such thing as a proxy wars with 36 families. It's why wars are overkills. One side picks another side and dismantles it. Tertiary families can't get involved because the sides are already blatantly clear... and because there are no tertiary families.
Additionally, with a 36 family limit, those families who get eliminated have a much more difficult time becoming relevant again... which further reduces opposition to dominating families. The way this version is set up, with kill based KS, ridiculously Lackey income, and sluggs, the first big Alliance that made a move was destined to be the winners. I'm a fan of the (soon-to-be) winners, not a fan of the version. I'm actually pretty drunk atm and rambling so everything i just said can probably be ignored. gnight
One of my chief complaints is certainly lackeys (particularly sluggs). But to answer your "why would more families make the game better" remark I would say consider this. One of the reasons we had more wars last version than this version is because with 100 families, the sides were not so cut and dry. One could hit at the outer edges, to weaken an alliance indirectly. Kind of a Cold War of sorts, with sphere's of influence. Via proxy wars, families could strengthen or weaken their standing. It also meant that there were Alliances within larger alliances, which gives a whole other war dimension, more diversity means more excitement... There's no such thing as a proxy wars with 36 families. It's why wars are overkills. One side picks another side and dismantles it. Tertiary families can't get involved because the sides are already blatantly clear... and because there are no tertiary families.
Additionally, with a 36 family limit, those families who get eliminated have a much more difficult time becoming relevant again... which further reduces opposition to dominating families. The way this version is set up, with kill based KS, ridiculously Lackey income, and sluggs, the first big Alliance that made a move was destined to be the winners. I'm a fan of the (soon-to-be) winners, not a fan of the version. I'm actually pretty drunk atm and rambling so everything i just said can probably be ignored. gnight
The biggest mistake of this version was the # of families. The second largest was sluggs. And 3rd largest was just the effectiveness of lackey's in general... Too much god damn money in the game. And that's my perspective. Learn it, Love it, Live it.
General Comments & Major Rumors
08:40:46 - 19-02
ElMariachi at 00:51:29 on 19/02:
exactly! lackeys made the game from dynamic to static and lackeys II +slugs made it even worse. Wonder what's next; give everyone a brug account on registration? doesn't matter anyways cause the balance is totally gone ...
rbaiao at 23:24:23 on 18/02:
In my opinion, lackeys have too much influence ingame and unbalance the game.
ElMariachi at 23:16:57 on 18/02:
And you expect the game to be any better when there is 80 fams up? only difference is the shooting of small fams no one rly cares about ...
Mickay at 22:29:13 on 18/02:
This version the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the admins. Implementing multiple major game changes was a terrible idea. That is to say reimplementing KS, making a family limit of 36 fams, adjusting online vs offline value of accounts, and making lackeys such an integral part of the game. There is so much money/bullets in the game now as a result of lackeys and sluggs that there is no difference between good players and bad players, the game becomes even more about pure numbers than strategy or teamwork, any one who cares to can have 1mil bullets.
The dumbest decision admins made by far was the family limit, but also adding the other three major changes at the same time made adjustment by the players difficult. I can tell you one thing its not the tops fault. Not this version. This version is fucked solely because there is no room to maneuver for families that don't have major numbers (i.e. not top 5 families)... no one can risk sticking their neck out. Really disappointed in Brando and crew.
Anonymous at 21:46:03 on 18/02:
25-12 First family up
27-12 First family down!
27-12 Trafficante down
28-12 Fratellanza under fire!
28-12 Anadolu down, Colossus hijacked
20-01 Pandora's box has been opened?
21-01 The Mexican standoff!
31-01 Sacrifice under fire!
07-02 Shit is on!
08-02 War of the flowers
10-02 Cotroni under slow fire
3 months has been since this version started and maybe 12 fams are down :D
As we know usually one version of omerta is 7,8 months (if im wrong correct me), so soon we will be on half of a version, and maybe 12 fams died, and we cant even say that there were 10 wars :P
Great mafia game!
Who to blame, admins, users, tops?
Lets say we can blame all of them, admins for makin this game dead, and even if u want u cant make tensions between families, coz nobody is here... come hire lackeys and bye bye...
Tops we can blame for playin some weird strategy...
We can agree that admins did fail this version, and every new version is just worse and worse... will admins become smarter and do some better things and listen users for next version, or they will make bots next version so players arent needed at all anymore to register or smth :D
25-12 First family up
27-12 First family down!
27-12 Trafficante down
28-12 Fratellanza under fire!
28-12 Anadolu down, Colossus hijacked
20-01 Pandora's box has been opened?
21-01 The Mexican standoff!
31-01 Sacrifice under fire!
07-02 Shit is on!
08-02 War of the flowers
10-02 Cotroni under slow fire
3 months has been since this version started and maybe 12 fams are down :D
As we know usually one version of omerta is 7,8 months (if im wrong correct me), so soon we will be on half of a version, and maybe 12 fams died, and we cant even say that there were 10 wars :P
Great mafia game!
Who to blame, admins, users, tops?
Lets say we can blame all of them, admins for makin this game dead, and even if u want u cant make tensions between families, coz nobody is here... come hire lackeys and bye bye...
Tops we can blame for playin some weird strategy...
We can agree that admins did fail this version, and every new version is just worse and worse... will admins become smarter and do some better things and listen users for next version, or they will make bots next version so players arent needed at all anymore to register or smth :D
This version the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the admins. Implementing multiple major game changes was a terrible idea. That is to say reimplementing KS, making a family limit of 36 fams, adjusting online vs offline value of accounts, and making lackeys such an integral part of the game. There is so much money/bullets in the game now as a result of lackeys and sluggs that there is no difference between good players and bad players, the game becomes even more about pure numbers than strategy or teamwork, any one who cares to can have 1mil bullets.
The dumbest decision admins made by far was the family limit, but also adding the other three major changes at the same time made adjustment by the players difficult. I can tell you one thing its not the tops fault. Not this version. This version is fucked solely because there is no room to maneuver for families that don't have major numbers (i.e. not top 5 families)... no one can risk sticking their neck out. Really disappointed in Brando and crew.
And you expect the game to be any better when there is 80 fams up? only difference is the shooting of small fams no one rly cares about ...
In my opinion, lackeys have too much influence ingame and unbalance the game.
exactly! lackeys made the game from dynamic to static and lackeys II +slugs made it even worse. Wonder what's next; give everyone a brug account on registration? doesn't matter anyways cause the balance is totally gone ...
One of my chief complaints is certainly lackeys (particularly sluggs). But to answer your "why would more families make the game better" remark I would say consider this. One of the reasons we had more wars last version than this version is because with 100 families, the sides were not so cut and dry. One could hit at the outer edges, to weaken an alliance indirectly. Kind of a Cold War of sorts, with sphere's of influence. Via proxy wars, families could strengthen or weaken their standing. It also meant that there were Alliances within larger alliances, which gives a whole other war dimension, more diversity means more excitement... There's no such thing as a proxy wars with 36 families. It's why wars are overkills. One side picks another side and dismantles it. Tertiary families can't get involved because the sides are already blatantly clear... and because there are no tertiary families.
Additionally, with a 36 family limit, those families who get eliminated have a much more difficult time becoming relevant again... which further reduces opposition to dominating families. The way this version is set up, with kill based KS, ridiculously Lackey income, and sluggs, the first big Alliance that made a move was destined to be the winners. I'm a fan of the (soon-to-be) winners, not a fan of the version. I'm actually pretty drunk atm and rambling so everything i just said can probably be ignored. gnight
General Comments & Major Rumors
22:29:13 - 18-02
Anonymous at 21:46:03 on 18/02:
25-12 First family up
27-12 First family down!
27-12 Trafficante down
28-12 Fratellanza under fire!
28-12 Anadolu down, Colossus hijacked
20-01 Pandora's box has been opened?
21-01 The Mexican standoff!
31-01 Sacrifice under fire!
07-02 Shit is on!
08-02 War of the flowers
10-02 Cotroni under slow fire
3 months has been since this version started and maybe 12 fams are down :D
As we know usually one version of omerta is 7,8 months (if im wrong correct me), so soon we will be on half of a version, and maybe 12 fams died, and we cant even say that there were 10 wars :P
Great mafia game!
Who to blame, admins, users, tops?
Lets say we can blame all of them, admins for makin this game dead, and even if u want u cant make tensions between families, coz nobody is here... come hire lackeys and bye bye...
Tops we can blame for playin some weird strategy...
We can agree that admins did fail this version, and every new version is just worse and worse... will admins become smarter and do some better things and listen users for next version, or they will make bots next version so players arent needed at all anymore to register or smth :D
25-12 First family up
27-12 First family down!
27-12 Trafficante down
28-12 Fratellanza under fire!
28-12 Anadolu down, Colossus hijacked
20-01 Pandora's box has been opened?
21-01 The Mexican standoff!
31-01 Sacrifice under fire!
07-02 Shit is on!
08-02 War of the flowers
10-02 Cotroni under slow fire
3 months has been since this version started and maybe 12 fams are down :D
As we know usually one version of omerta is 7,8 months (if im wrong correct me), so soon we will be on half of a version, and maybe 12 fams died, and we cant even say that there were 10 wars :P
Great mafia game!
Who to blame, admins, users, tops?
Lets say we can blame all of them, admins for makin this game dead, and even if u want u cant make tensions between families, coz nobody is here... come hire lackeys and bye bye...
Tops we can blame for playin some weird strategy...
We can agree that admins did fail this version, and every new version is just worse and worse... will admins become smarter and do some better things and listen users for next version, or they will make bots next version so players arent needed at all anymore to register or smth :D
This version the blame falls squarely on the shoulders of the admins. Implementing multiple major game changes was a terrible idea. That is to say reimplementing KS, making a family limit of 36 fams, adjusting online vs offline value of accounts, and making lackeys such an integral part of the game. There is so much money/bullets in the game now as a result of lackeys and sluggs that there is no difference between good players and bad players, the game becomes even more about pure numbers than strategy or teamwork, any one who cares to can have 1mil bullets.
The dumbest decision admins made by far was the family limit, but also adding the other three major changes at the same time made adjustment by the players difficult. I can tell you one thing its not the tops fault. Not this version. This version is fucked solely because there is no room to maneuver for families that don't have major numbers (i.e. not top 5 families)... no one can risk sticking their neck out. Really disappointed in Brando and crew.
10-12 Winner 3.2?
03:56:09 - 13-12
MaFia at 23:49:41 on 12/12:
One day will come and you wiLL shoot on us and then i wiLL say to you onLy one thing '' weLL done Johnny was a god job and was a pLeasure fight with you '' you may be sure that i wont talk about politics,dupes or leadership or bLa bLa Like you ...
My sincere apology too have a nice night ;)
Johnny at 23:36:32 on 12/12:
You're right MaFia...
How foolish I was to question TuRkuZ about anything you guys do, I should've known better that you do everything planed and with purpose. Your playing strategy, alliance building and inner family politics are light years a head of what can simple mind like mine can understand. I hope in future you will show me same devotion like you did this version and get another 20 families to shoot me with over such a short period as one month is! It really shows how great and capable leader you are, even if you showed me how merciful you really are when you offered me to join forces and work together during your "blitzkrieg" I knew I wasn't worthy and I have declined politely. I admire you MaFia really and I do hope one day my communication and leadership skills will be match to yours!
My sincere apology, it wont happen again MaFia!
MaFia at 23:20:36 on 12/12:
Hi junior ;) this version i saw you once and that was the time i've killed you. And you were crying here too that day. Now you are crying again. The Western Wall is at israil not here.in this vers your name has not ever been mentioned and now you came here to say i am here too and i won ( very tragic :D i wanna cry Like you ).
As a result of this , stop crying as you know there will be a reset at friday and open a new white page to yourself maybe you can catch us ;)
Johnny at 22:59:28 on 12/12:
Did you give admins your cheating ingames before or after you made all that drama on your fam page about how admins hate TuRkuZ, akill your innocent dupers and how you wont play anymore?
eyupdayi at 22:52:35 on 12/12:
So you've told that voting in same ip's are same as duping.
We might have akilled a lot yeah its true but do you know that we've talked to admins to kill cheaters and gave all the ingames in our fam to have them akilled?
PS: reset is coming @ friday and everyone will see turkuz again playing with honour and dignity.
So you've told that voting in same ip's are same as duping.
We might have akilled a lot yeah its true but do you know that we've talked to admins to kill cheaters and gave all the ingames in our fam to have them akilled?
PS: reset is coming @ friday and everyone will see turkuz again playing with honour and dignity.
Did you give admins your cheating ingames before or after you made all that drama on your fam page about how admins hate TuRkuZ, akill your innocent dupers and how you wont play anymore?
Hi junior ;) this version i saw you once and that was the time i've killed you. And you were crying here too that day. Now you are crying again. The Western Wall is at israil not here.in this vers your name has not ever been mentioned and now you came here to say i am here too and i won ( very tragic :D i wanna cry Like you ).
As a result of this , stop crying as you know there will be a reset at friday and open a new white page to yourself maybe you can catch us ;)
You're right MaFia...
How foolish I was to question TuRkuZ about anything you guys do, I should've known better that you do everything planed and with purpose. Your playing strategy, alliance building and inner family politics are light years a head of what can simple mind like mine can understand. I hope in future you will show me same devotion like you did this version and get another 20 families to shoot me with over such a short period as one month is! It really shows how great and capable leader you are, even if you showed me how merciful you really are when you offered me to join forces and work together during your "blitzkrieg" I knew I wasn't worthy and I have declined politely. I admire you MaFia really and I do hope one day my communication and leadership skills will be match to yours!
My sincere apology, it wont happen again MaFia!
One day will come and you wiLL shoot on us and then i wiLL say to you onLy one thing '' weLL done Johnny was a god job and was a pLeasure fight with you '' you may be sure that i wont talk about politics,dupes or leadership or bLa bLa Like you ...
My sincere apology too have a nice night ;)
I am skeptical that you will respond in that way. Call it a hunch.
10-12 Winner 3.2?
22:25:33 - 12-12
Impact at 18:06:21 on 12/12:
+1
corniole at 18:03:03 on 12/12:
nicest hijack: Tempestuoso who hijacked their own hijacked HQ back
nicest hijack: Tempestuoso who hijacked their own hijacked HQ back
+1
I'll give you guys that one :p
10-12 Winner 3.2?
01:40:34 - 11-12
Rather than posting stats like 'how many gf's' a fam lost, which is a negative statistic presented as a positive, you should display ratios, such as a families weeks of activity/wars, wars as attacker/defender out of total wars involved, etc.
General Comments & Major Rumors
21:50:54 - 30-11
Dellamorte at 21:18:48 on 30/11:
I have to work so i cannot continue this discussion, however please do not twist around my arguments - my main point is that it only depends on how a person looks into the game.
If the person sees this as an opportunity to live normal life, and still have a good game, being reachable and maybe sometimes gathering in the evening to chat with others who do the same - he will enjoy lackeys.
The people who leave because others don't come on irc much - only contribute in the negative process.
It's all about free will and not forcing people to sit and chat (because you still have to sit and click anyway).
I have to work so i cannot continue this discussion, however please do not twist around my arguments - my main point is that it only depends on how a person looks into the game.
If the person sees this as an opportunity to live normal life, and still have a good game, being reachable and maybe sometimes gathering in the evening to chat with others who do the same - he will enjoy lackeys.
The people who leave because others don't come on irc much - only contribute in the negative process.
It's all about free will and not forcing people to sit and chat (because you still have to sit and click anyway).
It is incredibly difficult to organize an effective war when 70% of your members rely solely on lackeys to rank. Furthermore, it is difficult to coordinate with other families because they face the same complications.
In my opinion the reason people blame lackeys for the downfall of the game is several fold... though the steady collapse of the game over the course of longer versions is actually a much broader issue.
#1 - Lackey's lead to families with high numbers of brugs, with low numbers of bullets. This can result in families being a huge pain in the ass to bring down, subsequently leading to fewer wars as more people turn solely to lackeys.
#2 - Suiciders also present a very real issue now that people are less attached to their accounts. This means that you better be ready to not only kill the primary players of a family, but the lackeys as well. Nothing makes you feel shittier than losing a member's (or your own) account to a suicider lackey account that you could have killed weeks prior but didn't because offline time was 10 days.
#3 - Due to the behavior of KS and RP, players and their families who have been going since the start of the version have an insane advantage over newcomers.
#4 - Starting again at this point, regardless of the actual effort you as a player put in, a 100% lackey ranked account can still ultimately kill you
#5 - Touching on #2, there are a lot of... unstable... players on this game. People who are easy to anger, difficult to reason with, and quick to suicide. Forcing those people to consider the time it will take to rerank an account used to serve to dissuade irrational actions. not any longer with lackeys. Unfortunately these people are too shortsighted to see the overall handicap to their own accounts, and lackeys present them an easy method to rerank.
It's also pointless at this point to attempt a resurgence of an aggressive play style as the ASFU alliance will crush you immediately, fearing eventual competition (makes sense for them). I think players that enjoy the aggressive, tactical nature of the game, are dissuaded from playing further as at this point in the game, it's the families that avoided war early on that rule the roost.
I've been a top of a wide variety of excessively aggressive fams over the last 8 years, and people who know me know I play 1 account per version. The reason for this is not only because I have other interests, but as a version progresses the game really does become much more bland. Families are not as willing to take risks (which is half the fun), bloodships are not as loyally upheld (due to families worrying more about saving their own ass and continuing to endure, knowing how inferior they would be if forced to restart), new families are introduced to the game led by tops who have no business being a top (just serving as a pestilence... or suiciding their entire family on an irrational whim), huggers populate the fam list (which means they are naturally going to be stronger than any account you can create on reboot), and players don't play with the same enthusiasm (probably for the above mentioned reasons).
This is my perception of the situation and my reason for not playing. Lackey's would not be a detractor if not for the ease with which they empower players I do not want empowered. I'm ready to play again, as I believe many others are a well, but I'm not going to waste my time playing in this environment. Then again, I don't mind waiting a few more months either.
tl:dr Lackey's are just a small part of a broader issue. Namely the natural de-evolution of a version as families become more self-interested, player base becomes less interested, and the whole game becomes more conservative, and therefore boring. Lackey's are a good idea in theory but in actuality encourage irrationality and empower players that shouldn't be empowered.
General Comments & Major Rumors
20:58:31 - 26-11
Anonymous at 15:35:16 on 26/11:
6 monyhs?? lol :D
Anonymous at 15:04:27 on 26/11:
true, asfu did great last time, but they have been up or months
Anonymous at 14:44:45 on 26/11:
how can asfu be a offensive fam when they hugged their accounts for 6 months??
Anonymous at 14:36:05 on 26/11:
The true winners of this version is without a doubt the Asfu allliance. Great offensive play guys! See you next v.
The true winners of this version is without a doubt the Asfu allliance. Great offensive play guys! See you next v.
how can asfu be a offensive fam when they hugged their accounts for 6 months??
true, asfu did great last time, but they have been up or months
6 monyhs?? lol :D
I honestly agree. I think ASFU won the version. They used a strategy that we considered but never executed. They did it very well. Granted, they waited months before shooting, and when they did they were shooting small defenseless families. They didnt really start going on the offensive until the actual competition were already dead. It's really our [read: everyones] fault for letting them grow to the size they did, while really not doing much. Do I think that they played the game well? Yes. Is it how I would like to play? No, definitely not.
General Comments & Major Rumors
19:36:18 - 25-11
Anonymous at 11:42:44 on 25/11:
LOL i dont play this game for almost 1 year but wanted to check how things are, when you see this top fams in the ?end? of a version:
#1 Army.ofcrime
#2 Turkuz
#3 Xzone
#4 Blacksea
#5 Rochester
#6 Legends
#7 Samagono
#8 Ihtilal
#9 Venture
#10 Fusion
Man i only see noob fams, not one single family worth mentioning in this list, can someone tell me what happened to this game?
LOL i dont play this game for almost 1 year but wanted to check how things are, when you see this top fams in the ?end? of a version:
#1 Army.ofcrime
#2 Turkuz
#3 Xzone
#4 Blacksea
#5 Rochester
#6 Legends
#7 Samagono
#8 Ihtilal
#9 Venture
#10 Fusion
Man i only see noob fams, not one single family worth mentioning in this list, can someone tell me what happened to this game?
General Comments & Major Rumors
10:04:40 - 13-11
Squalor at 15:40:37 on 12/11:
Its quite comfy really :')
Spy at 13:50:06 on 12/11:
Rofl, well that may be, but you're the one that sounds butthurt, not Presidential ;)
-Spy
`Donalo`Sixx at 03:25:38 on 12/11:
Dunno how presidents guys can walk with your head so far up their arse :p
Spy at 23:35:50 on 11/11:
Well, Presidential already had a decent core group of players when they started.
It wasnt just a 2 brug fam, it was a fam with a decent core group and tops who have experiance in the game. Not just some random noobs.
They grew out to be big in the end but that was because they had the guts to shoot when they were not this big, although they were never a small and deffonately not an inexperianced fam, new, yes, inexperianced and/or small, no.
Anonymous at 22:09:15 on 11/11:
Your point is nullified by just the history of this version alone. There were plenty of tiny, new fams that became big via shooting and gaining the respect of other families. I can name the presidents family off the top of my head.
Your point is nullified by just the history of this version alone. There were plenty of tiny, new fams that became big via shooting and gaining the respect of other families. I can name the presidents family off the top of my head.
It wasnt just a 2 brug fam, it was a fam with a decent core group and tops who have experiance in the game. Not just some random noobs.
They grew out to be big in the end but that was because they had the guts to shoot when they were not this big, although they were never a small and deffonately not an inexperianced fam, new, yes, inexperianced and/or small, no.
Dunno how presidents guys can walk with your head so far up their arse :p
-Spy
Its quite comfy really :')
lol, thats just because squalor es très homo and has le grande asshole :D
General Comments & Major Rumors
21:53:14 - 25-10
Jesus this version is still going? How has one of the massive alliances not dominated yet?
I did, and I see conflict getting shot down a lot and Inzerillo shooting down a lot. Perhaps we just have different perspective on things huh?
you dont see inze shooting down a lot, you see inzerillo helping their bloods conflict, in all the 5 or 6 times they got attacked, helping a blood that is being attacked countless times is different then planning and making wars. That was prolly the version in which conflict went down the most, but also the version were they came back to top #5, more times. Only in the end of the version you see inzerillo executing some wars, and even most of those with the help of conf, illu, righ, curse etc
The difference between our prespectives is that i consider both winners, both had ups and downs and both have started day #1 and finished the version on top, you on the other hand only thing inze desearves it.
Your memory sucks whoever you are Inze was involved in 80+ wars with us shooting many families ourselves many many families. We shot 3-4 in 30 seconds or less. And not 5-6 brugs like 20 or so. At one time we had 16 of the top 20 accounts. Inze DOMINATED period.
_O_ to Rigazotti, Panta, Lazial.
Ow and Rambo, dont forget smurfje henkie, giddi, giddis bro etc
Ha, I guess
Only had good ol' Fingon to go by in that stage of the game, and those articles say you shot them with NLS and Conflict, so that's what I remember eh xd
02-04 NLS + Inzerillo/Inzerilla + Conflict <-> MarazzinoRIP + PerfortaRIP + SalvatruchasRIP + FarinellaRIP + EdguoyuRIP
But to be fair, it didn't state who shoot who, so feel free to explain.
I believe Perforta/Salvatruchas shot Inzerillo.. not sure tho.
I am sure Inzerillo never shot Maraz, although Inze was a bad blood to them in the end.
STOP LIVING IN THE PAST YA BUNCH OF LOSERS! :p