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19:43:41 - 12-10
First a little log to show you I wasn't aware of this :)

Dutch log

Few facts:
- If we talk about just the Complexio family itself(that's Feldelta, Diehard and the product of a fusion: Complexio), we shot down 11 family's, including some smaller and some bigger ones.
- You guys speak about shooting too few. I think you don't know where you are talking about. If I need to track every bullet shot by one of us it will cost me a few days.
- I have a fact though: Dondeon, Mindfuck and Garii are the 3 accounts we have or had that shot the most bullets(though other accounts are getting close). Those 3 accounts fired over 1.900.000 bullets together, making a total of 25 highrank kills(of which 18 were brug+, so I don't count lower ranks). Note this is just 3 accounts, one of them is dead =)
- If Complexio would not have shot any bullet at all this version it would be sky high on the number one position, as well as the whole alliance we are in.

So please people. If you have any noteworthy thing to say on this, don't let anything stop you. If not, stop whining and posting lies when you don't know shit about the things you talk about.

Good evening ladies and gentlemen :)
03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
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00:13:37 - 08-10
Rix at 08:43:33 on 07/10:
klementino at 08:07:10 on 07/10:
soad at 19:04:28 on 05/10:
snooopy at 18:29:58 on 05/10:
People here are talking like they shoot in every war, but the fact is that 99 out of 100 fams shoot just as little. And they never dare to shoot in fear wars like Righelli and Nazdrovia did. And Im also pretty sure all those people complaining over Nazdrovia and Righelli brave actions here are people that barely shoot themself.


well said.

+1

Also posting anonymously and acting big is kinda pathethic... worst thing is people seem to take them for serious people.

Happy to see the bashing stops a bit :)
Had more important stuff to do than having bitchfights on ob news, haha :p
If they actually have a well founded point you should respond on that point, not on the nick which said it.

I'm not just annoyed by the fact they post anonymous. They talk like they know the facts better than family's that are deepest involved in things like in this and DIG vs Nazd war. I can show you logs, I can show you proof of everything, but I don't think that's necessary. I show I'm involved so you can take it for granted I know what I'm talking about and if they don't show who they are and post things that are absolutely wrong they should come up with proof first and then act big. Haven't seen any proof yet.
05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
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17:48:20 - 07-10
Anonymous at 11:09:20 on 07/10:
klementino at 08:03:56 on 07/10:
Amproof at 23:29:02 on 06/10:
Hey I'm no expert, I just see 11 fams vs 1 here.

agreed on overkill + caesarea is empty, that on one side

on the other hand, they actually get out of their caves and shoot... is worth some respect right?

nice job :)

Only 1 account from them shot already more then ur crappy fams so sush pls

Just a few tops in only Complexio of who I know the amount they shot(maybe even more) already goes way beyond 3 mil of bullets, so you're trying to tell me one of their guys shot over 3mil bullets(it's just at least 3 mil for like 5 people, no time to figure it all out)?

now you shush please before you know how much we shot, we ripped already over 10 family's so please get your facts right :w
03-10 Ilimitada Alliance Under Attack
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08:07:10 - 07-10
soad at 19:04:28 on 05/10:
snooopy at 18:29:58 on 05/10:
People here are talking like they shoot in every war, but the fact is that 99 out of 100 fams shoot just as little. And they never dare to shoot in fear wars like Righelli and Nazdrovia did. And Im also pretty sure all those people complaining over Nazdrovia and Righelli brave actions here are people that barely shoot themself.


well said.

+1

Also posting anonymously and acting big is kinda pathethic... worst thing is people seem to take them for serious people.

Happy to see the bashing stops a bit :)
Had more important stuff to do than having bitchfights on ob news, haha :p
05-10 AsFu + Levi → Caesarea
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08:03:56 - 07-10
Amproof at 23:29:02 on 06/10:
Hey I'm no expert, I just see 11 fams vs 1 here.

agreed on overkill + caesarea is empty, that on one side

on the other hand, they actually get out of their caves and shoot... is worth some respect right?

nice job :)
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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12:32:53 - 03-10
Smul at 12:01:07 on 03/10:
PannaJunk at 07:46:24 on 03/10:
First Im a cheater also wont deny it anymore and I know DIG cheats and I know its not only scripting, but np every fam does that.
Second Smul, wasnt it you maraz kuro who shot us last time with a ratio like 10:1 ? So stop the complaining about us shoot like 1:1.

You really don't know how to read in proper perspective of what is said heh?

about the ratio's: I merely said people shouldn't bitch, if they do the same themselves. I'm not bitching about ratio's now am I?

And I really wonder what scripts and cheats DIG uses :) Name some, instead of spreading rumours

oh, and...
PannaJunk at 07:46:24 on 03/10:
Lol smul that was more crap in 1 post then I mostly do in here.
I think you just beaten me again :)

carr at 09:21:15 on 03/10:
that smul cant see,because he is in sh when bloods jump for him :)
What did you do again in Firenze/Andalusia war? Ah, same tactic :) Hypocrite.

Don't say every family cheats! Ofcourse every fam get's an akill some time, you can't check all members, certainly not if you grow bigger... but Complexio+ = cheat clean, so don't spit your frustation down on everybody
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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12:31:08 - 03-10
Anonymous at 12:27:27 on 03/10:
klementino at 10:34:33 on 03/10:
Anonymous at 06:38:58 on 03/10:
Republica still surviving. what the hell ??

Complexio don't have enough balls to finish?

Ah damn I forgot to organize, I was having sex with my girlfriend past few nights... my bad :(

yeah and your gf is ELizabeth right?

p.s: El = hand in Turkish and we used ELizabeth for the wankers who love their hands like as their gfs :p

You're almost right, her name is Elise :)

And she does not have a mustache :^
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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10:34:33 - 03-10
Anonymous at 06:38:58 on 03/10:
Republica still surviving. what the hell ??

Complexio don't have enough balls to finish?

Ah damn I forgot to organize, I was having sex with my girlfriend past few nights... my bad :(
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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17:26:17 - 28-09
Nice,

Gorbachev, Dondeon and many others can't shoot or get shot for 2 days :')

As if things weren't going too slow already xd
22-09 [Upd #2] Omerta hacked
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16:50:35 - 27-09
sbanks at 10:18:18 on 27/09:
Brando - rly at 07:13:05 on 26/09:
NB Sbanks - I emailed - did not yet contact me.

I don't pretend to be 'a dev' or to have any specific technical expertise of any merit. I am working with skilled people who do that.

My complaint here is simple: this 'news' article is just a made up pack of lies.

I'd like to interview Sbanks about his source... knowing full well that *he does not have one*

Over and out.

o/

since i don't have a source how come i have the following information:

testament from about ~100 users : Testament

and

global vars from your server

why just 100 members? now you fuck people over on selection, if you come with this proof, come with all users you have.
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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11:18:03 - 26-09
PannaJunk at 10:51:53 on 26/09:
klementino at 10:49:56 on 26/09:
PannaJunk at 10:23:11 on 26/09:
klementino at 10:08:50 on 26/09:
PannaJunk at 07:34:30 on 26/09:
klementino at 02:37:07 on 26/09:
kosta at 16:03:01 on 25/09:
i hired on them whole night & morning and they were in sh all night,
so dont blame gorbachev & madpros to take a nap also :)

since when is being out of safehouse once every 48 hours taking a nap? :')

In the time they were looking for players to come online and shoot them you were here bashing maybe you should login and take some shots instead of compaining here.
Anyways whats the deal of using Safehouse on both sides, Im top in naz and i wont disagree with DIG using it as much as my own users. When you have a strong account you dont have to ruin it @ the first hour I would also join a safehouse if i was ivo, helena or gorbachev, wait till the right moment and take some shots with this KA you dont have much choices.

Well, I think I can´t do much damage as I already died. I don´t say Nazdrovian players can´t be in safehouse, but people who act like they are from Nazdrovia here claim that it´s all DIG with "pussy style safehousing", while Nazdrovia is only still up because of that. I don't say it's a bad thing to use it in general.

I can add that most people who respond here anonymously, and act like they know everything, while the things they say are actually completely ridiculous and most probably only meant to troll. I don't care if people troll, but other people seem to believe them. That's where it get's tricky.

RIP on both sides ofcourse

"Nazdrovia here claim that it´s all DIG with "pussy style safehousing", while Nazdrovia is only still up because of that."

Kinda stunned with that one.
First: we are the attacking fam so took the most risks in dying
Second: most of the strong accs went into safehouse because of the BG's they are waiting for (wich appoints to my earlier message, you wanna make much kills not die when its not needed too)
third: we are still alive because fams are helping us who are also tired of this boring version and dont wanna close with DIG and 30 fams, wich dig allready almost did in 3.0.

So your statement here is kinda strange, if someone is still up because of the SH its dig and not naz and I dont say its a bad thing cuz dig also have help from bloods ofcourse wich keep them alive, and what I allready said earlier I would do the same if I was DIG. So please klementino, play the game some longer get info about fams how the work how they play etc and then start judging.

Read what I said again. I just say that I don't blame Nazdrovia players being in safehouse. But that I certainly dislike people WHO ACT LIKE THEY ARE from Nazdrovia complain about DIG being in safehouse.

In fact it's a cat's and mousegame. I don't blame you guys for it, but I certainly know Madpros and Gorbachev are in SH like 20 hours a day, and I don't say DIG players aren't, but I think this highranks cat's and mouse game will just be finished when one of the family's runs out of money for bullets, bg's and safehouse.

So anyway you didn't read well or misunderstood me, as I said cleary that I didn't like those anonymous people who act like they are from Naz.

Yeah or you should state your sentence in a better form.

Anyways you guys could kill gorbachev this night since he was asleep and not in safehouse to spare his money.
This means you guys werent looking for him so you cant know :) no hush!

Gorbachev has had plenty of chances to kill Ivo and Dondeon as well. Only thing is you can't always shoot. Same counts for them, also need to recover and shit. As I said, cat's and mouse game
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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10:49:56 - 26-09
PannaJunk at 10:23:11 on 26/09:
klementino at 10:08:50 on 26/09:
PannaJunk at 07:34:30 on 26/09:
klementino at 02:37:07 on 26/09:
kosta at 16:03:01 on 25/09:
i hired on them whole night & morning and they were in sh all night,
so dont blame gorbachev & madpros to take a nap also :)

since when is being out of safehouse once every 48 hours taking a nap? :')

In the time they were looking for players to come online and shoot them you were here bashing maybe you should login and take some shots instead of compaining here.
Anyways whats the deal of using Safehouse on both sides, Im top in naz and i wont disagree with DIG using it as much as my own users. When you have a strong account you dont have to ruin it @ the first hour I would also join a safehouse if i was ivo, helena or gorbachev, wait till the right moment and take some shots with this KA you dont have much choices.

Well, I think I can´t do much damage as I already died. I don´t say Nazdrovian players can´t be in safehouse, but people who act like they are from Nazdrovia here claim that it´s all DIG with "pussy style safehousing", while Nazdrovia is only still up because of that. I don't say it's a bad thing to use it in general.

I can add that most people who respond here anonymously, and act like they know everything, while the things they say are actually completely ridiculous and most probably only meant to troll. I don't care if people troll, but other people seem to believe them. That's where it get's tricky.

RIP on both sides ofcourse

"Nazdrovia here claim that it´s all DIG with "pussy style safehousing", while Nazdrovia is only still up because of that."

Kinda stunned with that one.
First: we are the attacking fam so took the most risks in dying
Second: most of the strong accs went into safehouse because of the BG's they are waiting for (wich appoints to my earlier message, you wanna make much kills not die when its not needed too)
third: we are still alive because fams are helping us who are also tired of this boring version and dont wanna close with DIG and 30 fams, wich dig allready almost did in 3.0.

So your statement here is kinda strange, if someone is still up because of the SH its dig and not naz and I dont say its a bad thing cuz dig also have help from bloods ofcourse wich keep them alive, and what I allready said earlier I would do the same if I was DIG. So please klementino, play the game some longer get info about fams how the work how they play etc and then start judging.

Read what I said again. I just say that I don't blame Nazdrovia players being in safehouse. But that I certainly dislike people WHO ACT LIKE THEY ARE from Nazdrovia complain about DIG being in safehouse.

In fact it's a cat's and mousegame. I don't blame you guys for it, but I certainly know Madpros and Gorbachev are in SH like 20 hours a day, and I don't say DIG players aren't, but I think this highranks cat's and mouse game will just be finished when one of the family's runs out of money for bullets, bg's and safehouse.

So anyway you didn't read well or misunderstood me, as I said cleary that I didn't like those anonymous people who act like they are from Naz.
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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10:08:50 - 26-09
PannaJunk at 07:34:30 on 26/09:
klementino at 02:37:07 on 26/09:
kosta at 16:03:01 on 25/09:
i hired on them whole night & morning and they were in sh all night,
so dont blame gorbachev & madpros to take a nap also :)

since when is being out of safehouse once every 48 hours taking a nap? :')

In the time they were looking for players to come online and shoot them you were here bashing maybe you should login and take some shots instead of compaining here.
Anyways whats the deal of using Safehouse on both sides, Im top in naz and i wont disagree with DIG using it as much as my own users. When you have a strong account you dont have to ruin it @ the first hour I would also join a safehouse if i was ivo, helena or gorbachev, wait till the right moment and take some shots with this KA you dont have much choices.

Well, I think I can´t do much damage as I already died. I don´t say Nazdrovian players can´t be in safehouse, but people who act like they are from Nazdrovia here claim that it´s all DIG with "pussy style safehousing", while Nazdrovia is only still up because of that. I don't say it's a bad thing to use it in general.

I can add that most people who respond here anonymously, and act like they know everything, while the things they say are actually completely ridiculous and most probably only meant to troll. I don't care if people troll, but other people seem to believe them. That's where it get's tricky.

RIP on both sides ofcourse
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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02:38:20 - 26-09
Annastasis` at 21:35:16 on 25/09:
koxal at 21:10:07 on 25/09:
poor dig still running away as possible as , i try to understand why allies fams of dig gonna still die for them, but i can not! LoL. xzone and venture find the truths. dig (now dg) = cowards.. !

It's more like, Poor you ..

You have no idea what's going on, you just think you do and talk shit about it.
Get your facts straight before you comment some bullshit. :L

+1
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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02:37:07 - 26-09
kosta at 16:03:01 on 25/09:
i hired on them whole night & morning and they were in sh all night,
so dont blame gorbachev & madpros to take a nap also :)

since when is being out of safehouse once every 48 hours taking a nap? :')
25-09 Talking towards 3.3
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01:24:13 - 26-09
Kill Algorithm:

I think the last thing on earth we want is being an easy target when you're not even here to make sure you don't die if you survive or die with few effort. So in my opinion, just changing online>offline is not a smart idea. I already posted an idea on this once, but after reading Rix' reply I agree with him. I came up with something new. Why don't they filter out the inactives from the actives who just sleep. So let's say, when you are offline you are still slightly stronger(reduce the differences, but keep some advantage for those who are not behind their pc), but when you have been very inactive for a fixed amount of days(let's say 1 week) and let's say beneath 10% online percentage the advantage of being offline is gone, and maybe even turned around. Things that should be included in KA are: Rankpoints(simply combined stats of bullets and RP and count them as 1 thing), kill skill(as been explained in next subject), bodyguards(see below how they should work), protection and some other stats like being offline, position in your family.

Kill Skill:

The old killskill was less fun than the bodyguards are now. With shootingrange and bottle everybody had 100% killskill on assa or something like that without even shooting someone. In my opinion KS as introduced on 3.3 on .dm is a step in the right direction but still worse than the BG's. In my opinion you should only be rewarded if you succeed to kill someone. How can you get skill from a failing attempt on killing someone? If you make sure you only get killskill when you actually kill someone, you also don't have to mind KS-farming. Also don't make it decrease after not shooting for a while. When you had a tough war and spent a lot of bullets you need some time to recover. Once your bullets are back on normal level your ks could be gone, and where is that reward you got from the shooting?! Right! : GONE!

So killskill should be gained by making actuall kills, and the amount of KS you get should be based on the difference of rank and accountstrength(so if the target is a lot weaker you get few KS(the bigger the difference the fewer you get) and if the target is a lot higher you got a lot of KS(the bigger the difference the more ks you get). Let's say you need about 10 to 20(somewhere in between maybe?) decent kills(brug vs brug or something like that) to reach 100% killskill, so it's a bit exclusive to reach. Also add a position of killskill so you can compare the bulletposition and the way you spent those bullets.

Shooting limits:

Just simply remove them. In the real maffiaworld of the 30's Al Capone would kill a Delivery Boy with no doubt when that was necessary, so it's actually a laugh you can't do that anymore in Omerta. I say don't make it impossible to someone that is over 2 ranks higher due to settings in the killpage but make it incredibly hard because of KA(NOT IMPOSSIBLE!)

Capodecina rank:
I think it's not a smart idea to make CD rank return to all capo's now lackeys are here. You will simply have too many CD's. My sugestion: CD rank is for top3. Requirements for CD rank: 15 million dollar capoprofit. Requirements for GF rank: 15 million dollar capoprofit, being current don, and a special amount of networkpoints(so those are not useless) so it becomes way more exclusive. Make sure money can't buy a GF rank for you. CD's should be slightly stronger than brugs always. If the CD is a top player(in his stats) the advantage of being CD becomes bigger. 1 thing for sure: as stated, GF is the Ferrari under the omerta-ranks and it should in all ways be like it's the most exclusive thing around. GF/FL should never die in backfire of a brug or a capodecina. How well the account was build up should make up the result of the damage done to the GF's target. If you don't have a GF to shoot at a GF, let's say you need a group of strong brugs to target the GF multiple times.

Familysystem:

Combine the best points from both systems is what I think is best.
Familyrank should be there for unlockables such as objects, spots, crushers and other stuff.
Spots should be bought(on the same map but different spots as business objects) like before. When you start a family you need 2 tops/successors who have the same requirements to be don(at least LC). You buy a spot for the don with a 50 members headquarters for 50 million dollars, without a capo option. When you expand(could depend on familylevel), you can buy a capospot, to appoint a capo and gain 25 hq space. This should cost 25 million(it's too cheap nowadays). When the capo and the capo successor die, the spot gets lost, as well as the members on that spot. Bring back that oldschool part!

Just simply fix the amount of spots you have in every city. It's true most family's could get more family's in 1 city with creating smaller family's but a simple donhq has no capo spot, making boosting quitte a hard job so no GF for those small family's. Also those family's can't get any business objects.

Lackeys:

They should be removed, certainly. I don't think that will happen soon, but instead of focussing that much on lackeys as they did and still do. They could have make it a LOT harder to cheat actually. Anyway, long discussion, will see where it ends, but bring back the balance, the urge to be on irc/online more often and differences by lackeybrugs and actual good players who build good accounts.

Bodyguards:

Remove the special ability's of bodyguards. Shorten the amount of time and money needed to train them. Just plain attack and defense vallues, but make more bodyguards available. Bg's with higher defense or attacklevels should be unlocked on higher ranks, cost more money to buy(in the first place), and a bit more money to train(keep the training mostly the same, the buy would do the job). 1 BG should be fully retrainable in 1 hour. Remove bodyguards from obay. All bodyguards should need a vest, a gun and maybe other equipment?

Other changes or remarks:

-Donation codes
I think this might be the most important thing I have to say. Cap the maximum amount you can get for a DC on obay on 1 million. I see to often that people start a family and go from nowhere to top 10 position on bullets within 1 day. A strong account shouldn't be for sale. Lackeys are 1 thing, but I have seen examples of people wasting over 500 euros on dc's, getting an insane amount of bullets in a very short amount of time. Spending money to rank and get some features like dc(+) and sms is 1 thing. Buying ingamemoney with dc's is too much of an advantage. The only reason I think they should still be on obay is that people should be able to choose whether they donate or not, and they should be able to get lackeys both. In my opinion the best way to stick closest to the "free to play" ethos this game claims to have.

-Casino objects

I don't mind it if people are able win huge amounts of cash through poker when game economy is stable and normal again, but poker shouldn't make other objects lose their meaning.
In my opinion the bookies should either change dramatically to make them useful or be removed(whether they were an important part of the real maffia or not).
Poker should be an object as well. Just a poker table, the owner can change the settings. Change it to Casino Hold'em poker so players play against a bank, that makes it possible to get profit from it as owner or to steal away cash from a pokertable owner and eventually make him/her lose it. This still makes it possible to win huge pots(with same settings as before), but it's more equal to a normal casino object. I even think a new most wanted object is born!
25-09 Talking towards 3.3
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17:23:22 - 25-09
Aiden at 17:15:14 on 25/09:
Kill Algorithm:
Easy ranking = easy killing, imo. As you could be brug again in just a few weeks, why not let you die just as fast. But, shooting should be favoured.
This concludes to me a KA in which a brug with his/her account sorted out, so he/she got their BGs right etc, should be able to kill another proper brug with one 60k shot.
BF shouldn't be too strong, killing like 2 BGs and doing like 90% damage. This brings me back to versions like 2.7, in which you'd survive BF with like 2% health left.
To achieve this, I think the def value of a villa should be reduced and the importance of RP in the KA should be reduced.
I think, or hope, this would lead to a more volatile/turbulent version in which more wars will happen, more changes of the group in power etc.


Defense in current KA influences the chance of surviving an attack. When you get shot still your attack will influence how many damage yuo do in bf, reducing villa defense wouldn't influence the amount of bf-kills, but simply the amount that survive multiple shot while being offline in villa.
25-09 Talking towards 3.3
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16:58:02 - 25-09
Simple changing online>offline would be stupid. How are we supposed to get some sleep, when neither a person you share with nor a script is getting you online to remain strong. You will get pussy wars, just waiting till the other fams are offline and kill the whole family like clearing a bunch of chickens. I don't say offline>online is good, but it's at least better.

I already said this once:

I would like to see it like, being weaker when lackeys are running. If you fire lackeys, it takes 1 hour to be "lackeyfree". (like a cooldown).
This would make you choose between ranking while you are offline or being a less weak target while you're not around. Would make it more fair imo.

Rest I dont have time to read now, will reply later maybe
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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16:01:37 - 25-09
kosta at 14:33:15 on 25/09:
and ivo & honesty just got out ? :')

how can you guys even think you know that if the only people who have a chance of making an efficient kill on him are in SH? :')
22-09 Nazdrovia ↔ DIG
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14:31:05 - 25-09
Anonymous at 12:45:51 on 25/09:
why are all naz offline ? as far as i know they are in war :P

Gorbachev and Madpros are in safehouse, maybe that's why :')