While I agree that others should have been admin killed and more should still be admin killed, it isn't unreasonable to suspect the admins gave the cheaters 4 days to correct the problem in order to remove all doubt about the intention to exploit. I think the bottom line is that no matter how you looked at it, the intention to exploit was obvious. I don think people should be admin killed for accidentally stumbling upon a glitch.

The only thing to do now is to maintain the precedent set here and continue to enforce it until the bug can be fixed.

I wouldn't mind seeing a few revives.. but that's not exactly eating me up, despite the fact that I died during this scandal and probably could be revived.

Am I the one who is biased? When do you remember another entire family staying offline for 4 days to remain promoted? I don't think you have another example.. If so, it had to of been longer ago than this year, because since I came back in January, I know it has not happened for this long. I would call anyone out if I knew they were guilty of it. It's your bias that makes you insult a guy for stating the truth.

We know with Teckna's leaving, this game is more understaffed than ever, however, even with a better team, it will probably take some time to rewriting the coding and work out any glitches caused by changes to the system. If they were to reset today or even last week, they would not have had enough time to fix it and run tests. There is a reasonable amount of time to wait between the admin kills and a fix.. So hopefully reset will be in a 7-14 days.

No, it's because Lusa had 10 CD's and a don, none with enough regime strength to remain promoted, that the admins had to do something. Kurosawa had enough regime strength remaining to keep a few people promoted, but not all of their capos and don. Prophecy is more similar to Lusa, in that they did not have enough strength to keep anyone promoted, so they should have lost their GF and all CD capos - This ultimately would have led to their don's death and the demotion of Sotto and Consig, eventually.

They should all be admin killed, but Lusa was a huge slap in the face to this game's coding. The admins had to do something..

This bug has been around for several versions. Everyone who has survived a large offensive has taken advantage of it, but we have not seen a family so overloaded with strength get dominated like this before, which is why we have not seen the bug abused to this extent in the past. I think a lot of people would have done the same.. I also think this proves how pitiful Lusa's leadership is to have allowed this situation to happen to them.

However, Prophecy and Kuro have taken advantage of it this server also. Why has nothing been done to them? I think they deserve to be admin killed over it, and I also think anyone killed in their backfire deserves a revive. The don and top 3 should be admin killed because they made the decision to keep their strength in one regime while other capos stayed offline to remain CD. They made a conscious decision to exploit the bug. Furthermore, had the don's demoted to Brug, as they should have, then their consig and sotto would have been the successors as the only survivors left. They also would have demoted. Any way you look at it, this had a huge effect on the attacking families.

Fair or not, Lusa needed to be put out of their misery. That was embarrassing for everyone involved in any way.

Show some respect for the admin killed everyone.. No voucher for you!

Lusa was defeated soundly. Stop whining..

Kurosawa and Burguesia interfering means that Lusa, Prophecy, and Tijuana could not win on their own. As most servers go, it comes down to last man standing. Doesn't mean the best man won.. just someone had to be the last one.

Omerta should stop awarding vouchers.. It's not an appropriate award for a team effort.

As long as his partners will vouch for him, you should date him.. Who cares that they all sleep over at Brando's place? Saros would never lie to anyone..

I'm dead. Nice fight guys. Get a girlfriend, Ascii. :p

Yes. Yes there are hundreds of us that believe he could remain alive while blatantly cheating. We've seen in with Lucchese back in 2.0/ 2.1 and we saw it with Righelli this year. That's why people constantly make fun of the game's owner and call him names.

Righelli was up for 9 years before I ever saw them admin killed.. However, people claimed for many of those years that they were cheating. Did that make Righelli a non-cheating family for all the servers previous to that? If so, then why did they suddenly choose to cheat? - Right, we know they got away with it prior to that.

My point is that you people got away with it for many years while Saros and others claimed innocence. Just because someone does not get caught does not mean that they aren't doing wrong. The fact that Saros is here defending the Lusa don is evidence enough that they are in on this type of thing together. "Thick as thieves", as they say. That's why Pact sticks together, despite how dull that may be. They have a system, for sure. They have a system for cheating and have to work together to keep one another happy, else they'll all wind up the way of Piadent and Righelli, seeing the entire group admin killed.

Yes, having several people pushing your account makes you an awesome individual. That's why Lusa is overwhelmed by a bunch of restart accounts right now.

If this game's ownership had any integrity, every account would be playing for its own benefit on the server that it is registered to. However, that is not the case.

I guess Brando is too slow to figure out that when you have to be a no-life to compete, rather than using your brains, your community dies. He almost had the right idea when he introduced lackeys, but then he went and allowed these goofballs to start exchanging money between servers as if it's part of the developers' intention. And that's why we are here, after one year, still watching Pact vs the Independents.

It's natural to feel embarrassed. We sympathize with your pain, but it's too late to say we're sorry.

They have been "planning" that since the beginning of last version and have yet to act.. I keep hearing that every time one of these families begins to lose a war. I tried to believe it, but I have no reason to believe it.

So far, I've only seen Kuro backstab and ride coat tails instead. When are they going to put their money where their mouth is?

Two servers in a row, Male and Kuro have started off the server shooting on the same side as the "dreaded" Lusa family. How stupid would someone have to be to believe that they would ever follow through?

Fake name/ fake tough guy

From what? Kurosawa is a bunch of dupes.. Look at those sorry bullet counts.

If you believe what Burg has said over the last two servers, that is correct. However, they have forsaken their selves and teamed up with Lusa. I guess some people hold greed higher than honor.

It is interesting that Siberia and Aeterna joined Lusa instead of Burg or Kuro.. Makes me wonder what Kuro and Burg had to gain by blooding with Aeterna and Siberia.

Tradition \o/