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07-12 Showdown
22:14:22 - 08-12
07-12 Showdown
05:35:17 - 08-12
Good for Provenzano. They deserved to be a last family standing for a change.
05-12 The Punishment
01:04:33 - 07-12
Anonymous at 15:34:43 on 06/12:
Here you go again Nuke, trying to downtalk Lusa to make sure you feel good or whatever you do it for. Lusa reported a famless CD being CD still, admins says np, doesn't matter. Lusa does this too and now it does matter?
It's too late to get Lusa back because when admins make a decision they will never turn it back but atleast have the balls to say this akill spree was random.
Nuke at 13:48:40 on 06/12:
1st: Lusa reports the situation as a bug.
2nd: Lusa grossly exploits that bug.
3rd: Lusa get admin killed.
4th: Lusa complains about the admin kill.
Why are you complaining instead of rejoicing? You reported a bug and it got resolved. Be happy! :)
Solstice at 12:31:14 on 06/12:
They didn't think it was a bug apparently, since they did fuck all about it, when lusa reported it, when families on nl reported it, and so on. Now they did the akilling and kcode came on and fixed the thing in 2 hours i heard. Why not just do that and then let nature run it's course. This just seems spiteful.
They didn't think it was a bug apparently, since they did fuck all about it, when lusa reported it, when families on nl reported it, and so on. Now they did the akilling and kcode came on and fixed the thing in 2 hours i heard. Why not just do that and then let nature run it's course. This just seems spiteful.
1st: Lusa reports the situation as a bug.
2nd: Lusa grossly exploits that bug.
3rd: Lusa get admin killed.
4th: Lusa complains about the admin kill.
Why are you complaining instead of rejoicing? You reported a bug and it got resolved. Be happy! :)
Here you go again Nuke, trying to downtalk Lusa to make sure you feel good or whatever you do it for. Lusa reported a famless CD being CD still, admins says np, doesn't matter. Lusa does this too and now it does matter?
It's too late to get Lusa back because when admins make a decision they will never turn it back but atleast have the balls to say this akill spree was random.
I work with what you dip shits give me. If you don't like what I'm saying, then correct the guy I responded to. Maybe if you stammering idiots could learn to talk, we might have a more meaningful conversation.
General Comments & Major Rumors
13:55:23 - 06-12
DeathBase at 13:04:38 on 05/12:
Before being judgmental and take decisions about this akill(s) and other punishments, i want to wait for a while. Because admins can take the move back or can put some more kills on.
We just can say in every circumstances that cheating is a shame especially for leaders and family owners. People are not giving their time and money for watching "generally" pact side's cheating and again not for the admins who are punishing them so late.
This event can effect many stuff indirectly. Maybe 40 brugs take revive and this is direct yes but maybe if those 40 brugs were alive at the time, some other families already dead by now like kurosawa as* lickers and fakers. This version is really fu*ked by this move.
I personally think that admins are equally guilty as cheaters by can't control this before its too late. ( Still saying if Ascii and other Lusa crew really did such a s*it, which we are not exactly sure of the event atm. ) We can talk and tell more but is unnecessary and sadly won't effect at the end.
So long story short, i demand reset before we go for christmas eve. We have time for new version before 1 Jan of 2015, just give the version to burgiesa and kurosawa, otherwise we have to wait for a s*itty version for a supererogatory long time.
For sure, Admins can't give whole rights to all those who qualify. I mean justice can not be established, truly for everyone. It's too late for that, because we are talking about over 80 brug + deaths and nearly 5 million bullets has been shooted. And still it's just about the one side of this event, we ment just Lusa for counts. If we calculate the butterfly effect, numbers will rise like my di*k, when i see Rebecca Romijn-Stamos naked. Many families involved that.
Sad but true.
I have to go back for work now. :w
Before being judgmental and take decisions about this akill(s) and other punishments, i want to wait for a while. Because admins can take the move back or can put some more kills on.
We just can say in every circumstances that cheating is a shame especially for leaders and family owners. People are not giving their time and money for watching "generally" pact side's cheating and again not for the admins who are punishing them so late.
This event can effect many stuff indirectly. Maybe 40 brugs take revive and this is direct yes but maybe if those 40 brugs were alive at the time, some other families already dead by now like kurosawa as* lickers and fakers. This version is really fu*ked by this move.
I personally think that admins are equally guilty as cheaters by can't control this before its too late. ( Still saying if Ascii and other Lusa crew really did such a s*it, which we are not exactly sure of the event atm. ) We can talk and tell more but is unnecessary and sadly won't effect at the end.
So long story short, i demand reset before we go for christmas eve. We have time for new version before 1 Jan of 2015, just give the version to burgiesa and kurosawa, otherwise we have to wait for a s*itty version for a supererogatory long time.
For sure, Admins can't give whole rights to all those who qualify. I mean justice can not be established, truly for everyone. It's too late for that, because we are talking about over 80 brug + deaths and nearly 5 million bullets has been shooted. And still it's just about the one side of this event, we ment just Lusa for counts. If we calculate the butterfly effect, numbers will rise like my di*k, when i see Rebecca Romijn-Stamos naked. Many families involved that.
Sad but true.
I have to go back for work now. :w
- At first, I was like: Not terribly written - I wonder what this long message could have to say.
- Then, I was like: He doesn't speak English very well.. and he swears a lot when it really doesn't make any sense.
- Finally, I realized this entire essay was just to talk about his dick.
Well played, you weird little troll.
05-12 The Punishment
13:48:40 - 06-12
Solstice at 12:31:14 on 06/12:
They didn't think it was a bug apparently, since they did fuck all about it, when lusa reported it, when families on nl reported it, and so on. Now they did the akilling and kcode came on and fixed the thing in 2 hours i heard. Why not just do that and then let nature run it's course. This just seems spiteful.
They didn't think it was a bug apparently, since they did fuck all about it, when lusa reported it, when families on nl reported it, and so on. Now they did the akilling and kcode came on and fixed the thing in 2 hours i heard. Why not just do that and then let nature run it's course. This just seems spiteful.
1st: Lusa reports the situation as a bug.
2nd: Lusa grossly exploits that bug.
3rd: Lusa get admin killed.
4th: Lusa complains about the admin kill.
Why are you complaining instead of rejoicing? You reported a bug and it got resolved. Be happy! :)
05-12 The Punishment
19:27:41 - 05-12
Grigoriy at 19:21:49 on 05/12:
The don and the sotto were killed because they were the ones who were constantly changing the capo regimes.
You killed our low accounts, those who werent on top 50. Some high brugs manage to survive.
But guess what, we killed all your decinas, almost all at the first shot. Yes, even being attacked hard with a ratio 3:1 orso...
Its easy to kill low accounts when you have a lot of shoters. It would have been possible to kill our high accounts either - as decinas or not - but its not up to me to teach you how its done...
I'm affraid that having good skills on rhetoric its all you can achive on Omerta.
Nuke at 19:16:36 on 05/12:
Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?
Grigoriy at 19:04:01 on 05/12:
Once again, you are trying to use your rhetoric skills... If you don't have nothing to say that realy makes sense, its better to shut up.
Idc if you are anti-pact, or if you arent my friend. Usually I respect my enemies, and you have a few proofs about it. I prefer to kill my enemies in war, than use schemes and shit, and try to have advantage about the situation.
Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.
Once again, you are trying to use your rhetoric skills... If you don't have nothing to say that realy makes sense, its better to shut up.
Idc if you are anti-pact, or if you arent my friend. Usually I respect my enemies, and you have a few proofs about it. I prefer to kill my enemies in war, than use schemes and shit, and try to have advantage about the situation.
Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.
Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?
The don and the sotto were killed because they were the ones who were constantly changing the capo regimes.
You killed our low accounts, those who werent on top 50. Some high brugs manage to survive.
But guess what, we killed all your decinas, almost all at the first shot. Yes, even being attacked hard with a ratio 3:1 orso...
Its easy to kill low accounts when you have a lot of shoters. It would have been possible to kill our high accounts either - as decinas or not - but its not up to me to teach you how its done...
I'm affraid that having good skills on rhetoric its all you can achive on Omerta.
While I appreciate your praise on my rhetoric, I disagree on the skills part. I'm not the best player in this game, but I'm pretty good. If relying on another account's production is your idea of skills, then leave me out of it. If you're one who can build a top 20 account just by what you can produce with your own account, then congratulations - You're the same as me.
05-12 The Punishment
19:16:36 - 05-12
Grigoriy at 19:04:01 on 05/12:
Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.
Lusa being dead might be a victory to you, but it wasnt because your war strategies.
Oh.. I thought we killed everyone except the CD's and GF. My bad. Why was the don admin killed again?
Grigoriy at 19:15:20 on 05/12:
Moral of the story:
When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.
Seems legit.
Moral of the story:
When Lusa reports = who cares.
When Lusa is reported = Akill/ cheaters/ abusers.
Seems legit.
I'd have to say majority ruled on this one. It seems enough people had a problem with it that something happened. Is everyone who is trying to make Lusa into a lone victim drinking the same Cool-Aid?
Last week, the defense was "we're not cheating because we haven't been admin killed". This week, it's "we got admin killed even though we were not cheating".
That's contradicting.
05-12 The Punishment
18:53:26 - 05-12
Vendetta at 18:51:08 on 05/12:
Im sry but your taking a position on your ass that got fucked by lusa top accounts. Go get some ice for that burn babe <3
Im sry but your taking a position on your ass that got fucked by lusa top accounts. Go get some ice for that burn babe <3
I don't think that's the issue at all. My family killed your family the past 3 servers, including this one. It's not personal from my standpoint, but it was a necessary part of the game, all the same.
Perhaps this is some misplaced anxiety you have that you wish for me to empathize with your discomfort?
05-12 The Punishment
18:51:17 - 05-12
Ladydi at 18:47:00 on 05/12:
Define normal rankers?!
Is there such a thing as Abnormal rankers?
Maybe you should get that checked at your next doctors appointment.
Define normal rankers?!
Is there such a thing as Abnormal rankers?
Maybe you should get that checked at your next doctors appointment.
You're actually suggesting that I ask a MD about Omerta gaming? OK.. I'm going to step around this one.
05-12 The Punishment
18:49:19 - 05-12
Grigoriy at 18:41:29 on 05/12:
Dude, when you'll realize that it wasnt something strickly to Lusa? We have shoted Capodecinas famless, and Capodecinas that changed family in the middle of the war ourselves. Did you saw us complaining about that? Everyone assumed that was the system, and we all needed to play with it.
Dude, when you'll realize that it wasnt something strickly to Lusa? We have shoted Capodecinas famless, and Capodecinas that changed family in the middle of the war ourselves. Did you saw us complaining about that? Everyone assumed that was the system, and we all needed to play with it.
Why do you think I do not realize that? As I said a few posts ago, I readily shot at an offline First Lady in the same state last server and died in backfire. I did not bitch to the admins then and I ddi not bitch about it this server either. However, I'm glad that the crew has finally done something about it. It was a problem and it is now being addressed.. I am annoyed that the crew waited so long, though.
You all need to get over your pact-like mentality (no PUN intended), and stop attacking me just because I'm not your teammate. I am only taking a position against cheating and you people are getting angry about it. What does that say about you and your friends?
05-12 The Punishment
18:38:18 - 05-12
rafaz at 18:35:42 on 05/12:
A decent enemy admits when something unfair like this happen, ignore this Nuke, next version he won't be able to do much poor guy :P
A decent enemy admits when something unfair like this happen, ignore this Nuke, next version he won't be able to do much poor guy :P
I hope next version they finally do something about the "money exchange" loophole and run your cheating ass off for good. You're garbage..
05-12 The Punishment
18:37:02 - 05-12
Anonymous at 18:30:05 on 05/12:
Nuke, why are you still talking?
Do you really think your rhetoric will make everyone changes their thoughts about this unfair akill?
They just needed a reason to akill us, cas on Omerta the rulle its simple: comunity decides the most. They just couldnt handle that we were stading like warriors - as Capodecinas or not - and that would be pretty much impossible to kill us. So lets cry together and make some pressure on admins, we might have some that hates the "pact" and plus, they are our friends.
It doesnt really matter if you strong and organized...
So, I say fuck them, and fuck you aswell.
Omerta was supposed to be about honour aswell, but I'm affraid that you/our enemies don't care much about that. Since we are dead - fairly or not - its all that matters now.
Nuke, why are you still talking?
Do you really think your rhetoric will make everyone changes their thoughts about this unfair akill?
They just needed a reason to akill us, cas on Omerta the rulle its simple: comunity decides the most. They just couldnt handle that we were stading like warriors - as Capodecinas or not - and that would be pretty much impossible to kill us. So lets cry together and make some pressure on admins, we might have some that hates the "pact" and plus, they are our friends.
It doesnt really matter if you strong and organized...
So, I say fuck them, and fuck you aswell.
Omerta was supposed to be about honour aswell, but I'm affraid that you/our enemies don't care much about that. Since we are dead - fairly or not - its all that matters now.
Yes, I do. If it was up to you people, nothing would ever happen. You all would continue to tell yourselves everything is OK and continue to exploit glitches to no end. It irks me that you think that action should never start with you. I'm here to tell you that it has to start somewhere and what Lusa was doing is a better case that most.
I will not be unhappy if Kuro, Prophecy and anyone else who continues to exploit the same bug ends up being admin killed. Frankly, I think they need to do something about the raid timing as well, which no one else seems to mind - The fact that people are sending raid invites 30 minutes in advance bothers me. It's not readily available knowledge to everyone, thus it is an exploited glitch or unfairness. Strategy is one thing.. Exploitation of the games code is another.
05-12 The Punishment
18:28:45 - 05-12
Saros`away at 18:14:17 on 05/12:
And...?
That you'd rather believe your own experiences doesn't change what has been told to us by the admins, regardless if it's actually working like intented or not. It seems to me that you desperately want to believe that Lusa are some mastermind cheaters that got finally got caught, instead of listening to anything that doesn't work well with you arguments. That's fine with me, it's only a tad bit typical.
But if there's one thing that we all should agree on here no matter if you regard Lusa as the ultimate cheaterhaxduperscum or not. It's that admins once again take the worst option they had available in giving an entire family akills/punishes and at the same time not reviving anyone who supposedly got disadvantaged by this (cosmetic) bug.
It's been fixed now anyway, so I guess it's not a matter of being 'hard' to fix and more of being 'hard' to finally start working on it.
Nuke at 17:53:44 on 05/12:
As you've seen, Omerta has plenty of bugs in it, so that means even the programmers who write the code still have numerous problems to sort out. Someone from staff saying that it's 100% working does not go along with the fact that there are admin kills accusing of bug exploitation.
Here's a hint: A fact usually has a source to back the claim.
You will not find the current KA posted anywhere for the public's eye. Even if you do find the KA by itself, you have to look at the rest of the coding and reference variables to assure that it is working as intended. The KA relies on variables such as rank, account points, villa, bodyguards.. etc. I keep reading how everything is fine, by I keep witnessing something else.
If there was a known bug due to programming errors, would the person who wrote it tell me that it was working incorrectly or try to pass me off by telling me everything is really fine?.. The display is the only error.. Really? How difficult would have have been to fix over a year ago?
Saros`away at 17:31:40 on 05/12:
[20:54] <Arcanine> i see a few CD's still CD although they dont have anywhere near 2,000 capo strength..just matter of time till demote?
[20:54] <Dee> are they off?
[20:54] <!KCode> Arcanine, display rank
[20:54] <!KCode> the real rank is always on system
[20:54] * Jans ([email protected]) has joined #4.0
[20:54] <!KCode> display rank is only updated on action
*cough* Such a strong bug. *cough*
[20:54] <Arcanine> i see a few CD's still CD although they dont have anywhere near 2,000 capo strength..just matter of time till demote?
[20:54] <Dee> are they off?
[20:54] <!KCode> Arcanine, display rank
[20:54] <!KCode> the real rank is always on system
[20:54] * Jans ([email protected]) has joined #4.0
[20:54] <!KCode> display rank is only updated on action
*cough* Such a strong bug. *cough*
As you've seen, Omerta has plenty of bugs in it, so that means even the programmers who write the code still have numerous problems to sort out. Someone from staff saying that it's 100% working does not go along with the fact that there are admin kills accusing of bug exploitation.
Here's a hint: A fact usually has a source to back the claim.
You will not find the current KA posted anywhere for the public's eye. Even if you do find the KA by itself, you have to look at the rest of the coding and reference variables to assure that it is working as intended. The KA relies on variables such as rank, account points, villa, bodyguards.. etc. I keep reading how everything is fine, by I keep witnessing something else.
If there was a known bug due to programming errors, would the person who wrote it tell me that it was working incorrectly or try to pass me off by telling me everything is really fine?.. The display is the only error.. Really? How difficult would have have been to fix over a year ago?
And...?
That you'd rather believe your own experiences doesn't change what has been told to us by the admins, regardless if it's actually working like intented or not. It seems to me that you desperately want to believe that Lusa are some mastermind cheaters that got finally got caught, instead of listening to anything that doesn't work well with you arguments. That's fine with me, it's only a tad bit typical.
But if there's one thing that we all should agree on here no matter if you regard Lusa as the ultimate cheaterhaxduperscum or not. It's that admins once again take the worst option they had available in giving an entire family akills/punishes and at the same time not reviving anyone who supposedly got disadvantaged by this (cosmetic) bug.
It's been fixed now anyway, so I guess it's not a matter of being 'hard' to fix and more of being 'hard' to finally start working on it.
I've never disagreed with you there. The crew has been inconsistent as usual.
You guys can claim whatever you want, but it remains just talk. The crew will cover their asses by not advertising bugs until after they're fixed, that is only natural.
It's not just Lusa that cheats.. Lusa does, though.. conspicuously.
05-12 The Punishment
17:53:44 - 05-12
Saros`away at 17:31:40 on 05/12:
[20:54] <Arcanine> i see a few CD's still CD although they dont have anywhere near 2,000 capo strength..just matter of time till demote?
[20:54] <Dee> are they off?
[20:54] <!KCode> Arcanine, display rank
[20:54] <!KCode> the real rank is always on system
[20:54] * Jans ([email protected]) has joined #4.0
[20:54] <!KCode> display rank is only updated on action
*cough* Such a strong bug. *cough*
[20:54] <Arcanine> i see a few CD's still CD although they dont have anywhere near 2,000 capo strength..just matter of time till demote?
[20:54] <Dee> are they off?
[20:54] <!KCode> Arcanine, display rank
[20:54] <!KCode> the real rank is always on system
[20:54] * Jans ([email protected]) has joined #4.0
[20:54] <!KCode> display rank is only updated on action
*cough* Such a strong bug. *cough*
As you've seen, Omerta has plenty of bugs in it, so that means even the programmers who write the code still have numerous problems to sort out. Someone from staff saying that it's 100% working does not go along with the fact that there are admin kills accusing of bug exploitation.
Here's a hint: A fact usually has a source to back the claim.
You will not find the current KA posted anywhere for the public's eye. Even if you do find the KA by itself, you have to look at the rest of the coding and reference variables to assure that it is working as intended. The KA relies on variables such as rank, account points, villa, bodyguards.. etc. I keep reading how everything is fine, by I keep witnessing something else.
If there was a known bug due to programming errors, would the person who wrote it tell me that it was working incorrectly or try to pass me off by telling me everything is really fine?.. The display is the only error.. Really? How difficult would have have been to fix over a year ago?
05-12 The Punishment
17:16:35 - 05-12
Aart at 17:07:17 on 05/12:
Completely to the point.
Though i'm not so sure it's merely a display error. I'd say the KA takes rank into account and not just rankpoints or regime strenght as you put it.
Enfin, it's not a bug and once again shows complete incompetence by the crew. If anyone simply would have had balls and shot them offline with a safe ammount of bullets and bg settup, you would have forced those cdc's online and they'd had to travel or sh, fixing the whole damn issue.
It's even more hilarious to see all these whiny souls here crying for !cheat0rs and !justice.
Yes Nuke, you. Simpleton.
Completely to the point.
Though i'm not so sure it's merely a display error. I'd say the KA takes rank into account and not just rankpoints or regime strenght as you put it.
Enfin, it's not a bug and once again shows complete incompetence by the crew. If anyone simply would have had balls and shot them offline with a safe ammount of bullets and bg settup, you would have forced those cdc's online and they'd had to travel or sh, fixing the whole damn issue.
It's even more hilarious to see all these whiny souls here crying for !cheat0rs and !justice.
Yes Nuke, you. Simpleton.
The one who calls me simpleton is claiming things did not happen that did in fact happen. We shot some of those accounts, but the backfire from a CD against a brug was too great. We lost people in backfire while pre-shooting, and completely missing. That's the strength of an offline CD against a restart account.
And yes, everyone is "crying".. Lusa is "crying", attackers are "crying", Lusa's friends are "crying.. I think that exaggeration has been sufficiently beat into the ground. Thanks for piling it on though. It's better to be late to the party than to not show up at all.
05-12 The Punishment
17:08:53 - 05-12
MurderInc at 16:17:19 on 05/12:
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
So, a couple of fun facts. This "bug" is about the fact that while Godfathers and Capodecinas (except Consig/Sotto) require a certain amount of regime strength to promote to that rank, the game does not automatically demote them to Bruglione as soon as they go below that amount. Demotion only happens after any manual RP action.
- The KA actually doesn't have this bug, meaning it always takes into account the regime strength at the time of the shooting. If someone is below the required amount, the KA doesn't count the shooter/defender as Capodecina/Godfather but as a Bruglione. Thus this bug is simply a display error on the profile. No one has dealt or received more damage because of this bug. No one died because of it. The only thing you could argue is that people who didn't know this might have made different decisions based on the fact that they thought their target was GF/CDC. Still, that's a pretty minor issue and not one that gets people killed unfairly.
- This bug has been around for over a year now. It has been reported multiple times and has rightfully been given a low priority since (as I explained before) it didn't actually do any damage. It's annoying, sure, but that's about it. Pretty much every family that ever had GFs or CDCs has "benefited" from this bug at some point (a lot of them deliberately as well).
I think admins have a certain responsibility to either punish behavior that they think harms the game (for whatever reason) as soon as they notice it (and if this war was the first time they noticed it, they should really just quit) or simply accept it as part of the game. If they know about it and tolerate it for over a year, it's absolutely insane to suddenly punish a whole family (and just one!).
- This really leaves a bitter taste in terms of admins being impartial. Lusa has received akills for trading money with players on other versions this round. No other fam got punished for that. I traded plenty of .nl money myself and didn't get punished. I know a lot of people in other fams who did the same and didn't get punished. It seems to me that the crew simply succumbed to the pressure that got put on them by the community constantly moaning about how Lusa is a bunch of cheats and needs to be punished. One gets the feeling that since they didn't find any better reason to punish them, they simply took this as a reason to appease the community.
Anyway, I think this really shows a lack of communication skills from the crew. None of this would have ever needed to get this far. A simple news post telling the everyone that even though such behavior has been tolerated in the past, as of now trading money between versions and "abusing" the regime strength issue would be considered cheating and would get punished appropriately would have probably gotten almost everyone to stop doing that, and the rest could've been akilled without any problem.
OK, so let me get this straight:
We are to believe that the error is only within the display of the rank, but not in the KA.. That sounds like an assumption to me.
I know that last server, I died in the backfire of someone who was displayed as the same strength as me, or at least a negligible amount, because we were ranked something like #15 and #16 among the top 20 ranks (the ranks displayed on the log-in screen). I was a Capodecina and she was a First Lady. Before she promoted to First Lady, the day before, she was not among the top 20 ranks. For about 12 hours, this first Lady did not have enough regime strength to remain First Lady, but she remained offline. I went to bed, woke up, saw my account's strength had been updated in the rank position| points display, yet the First Lady was still one rank ahead of me. She had been offline for more than 8 hours. The server was already decided, so I shot anyway - I died in backfire and did not get the kill.
Are you expecting me to believe that a Bruglione one rank higher than me (by display only), killed a Capodecina in 60k backfire and did not die also?
Omerta also claims that a Villa's strength is negated after 8 hours offline. OB showed that she was offline for more than that and the fact that she remained a FL also proved that she had not done an action in that time. My family was ranked #2 while their family had one person left.
From what you said to what I experience first hand does not match. Your statement is only that while my claim has actions to back it up. Despite being well worded, your statement has zero credibility.
05-12 The Punishment
16:01:18 - 05-12
Anonymous at 15:44:08 on 05/12:
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Belchi is going insane or IRC, someone who knows him irl should call a doctor, he seems like he's gonna jump
Time to get a real job bro :(
Let them jump and do the world a favor. These people are so garbage that they can't distinguish between right and wrong. They think this game is about what they can get away with by not being killed by the admins.
I pity them, but they're beyond help. They're surrounded with so many cheaters that they believe it's a part of the game - I'm talking about duping and boosting (Sending another player all of your money - for their benefit, not yours). The admin kills were a backlash from duping/boosting. Had their accounts been legit, 80 Lusa and Prophecy brugs would not have died so easily. Their overpowered capos would not have had to hide offline to keep from being killed. The fact that they failed miserably while cheating doesn't make it OK either. It's irritating that action is not taken while the boosting is so obvious.
05-12 The Punishment
15:36:41 - 05-12
rafaz at 15:35:51 on 05/12:
Who are you anyways?
Nuke at 15:35:14 on 05/12:
Ha! So you guys aren't quitting now and the admins didn't make an unjust decision.. Lots of talk, but the only action I continue to see is making copious amounts of blood pacts and exploiting money exchanges [duping].
rafaz at 15:25:56 on 05/12:
Next version you will have a good reason to cry :D
#Lusa
Next version you will have a good reason to cry :D
#Lusa
Ha! So you guys aren't quitting now and the admins didn't make an unjust decision.. Lots of talk, but the only action I continue to see is making copious amounts of blood pacts and exploiting money exchanges [duping].
Who are you anyways?
I've been playing for a very long time.. But I don't know that I'm anyone to be celebrated. I'm just a gamer.
05-12 The Punishment
15:35:14 - 05-12
rafaz at 15:25:56 on 05/12:
Next version you will have a good reason to cry :D
#Lusa
Next version you will have a good reason to cry :D
#Lusa
Ha! So you guys aren't quitting now and the admins didn't make an unjust decision.. Lots of talk, but the only action I continue to see is making copious amounts of blood pacts and exploiting money exchanges [duping].
05-12 The Punishment
15:25:13 - 05-12
Anonymous at 15:18:24 on 05/12:
If you cant do it, just cry to the crew for akills.
Shity attackers from the side against lusa, shooting for the 2nd time in this version. With 250k/300k bullets shot after shooting lusa how they would kill CDS? To play like that, just play sims. Or, and this one youre good at, cry :`)
This was a strategy used by many fams, but not with Lusa organization. They were alive and killing top accounts of the other side. Why? Because you were too afraid to shot them. Result: cryyy!
I even think how so many people is happy here. Knowing that they were unable to kill lusa and only with the help of a parcial crew could do it.
.com with this .pt with limit too shoot bullets .dm with that shitty layout and new rules, guess the end is coming o/
If you cant do it, just cry to the crew for akills.
Shity attackers from the side against lusa, shooting for the 2nd time in this version. With 250k/300k bullets shot after shooting lusa how they would kill CDS? To play like that, just play sims. Or, and this one youre good at, cry :`)
This was a strategy used by many fams, but not with Lusa organization. They were alive and killing top accounts of the other side. Why? Because you were too afraid to shot them. Result: cryyy!
I even think how so many people is happy here. Knowing that they were unable to kill lusa and only with the help of a parcial crew could do it.
.com with this .pt with limit too shoot bullets .dm with that shitty layout and new rules, guess the end is coming o/
We did kill Lusa.. They had plenty regime strength before we started killing their dupes.
Also, if you're half as good as we are, then re-rank like we did and shoot whoever you damn well please. The fact is that Lusa had many brug accounts more than 20 days promoted, but they were easy to kill because they never had any bullets. We did the only thing a restart family could do and killed the lowest ranks in hope of demoting the higher ranks. You guys hid offline for days, so why so bold now? I will never understand how anyone who exploits money exchanges and gf promotions can continue to talk shit after they've been bested.
That's not the fucking point, you claimed no one trash-talked Burguesia before this war, and as you can see that's not true.
I'm not sure what finding negative comments about Siberia would change about your implication that Siberia is behind every insulting comment on OB, wouldn't it just prove the opposite?
Let me repeat: Tijuana is not Siberia. Tijuana and Burguesia weren't blooded. Why would anyone expect them to hug Tijuana?
I talked trash about Burguesia before the war.. Not nearly as much as other families, but I'm guilty. I would rather my family win, but it could be a lot worse..
I guess I'm a little surprised that Tijuana is not blooded with them, but before Lusa died in a blaze of burning feces, it probably seemed like a good idea to keep someone available to make sure Pact could shoot their competition.