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A member of Esperanza shot the don of Lusa. Esperanza refused to pay for this kill. Lusa teamed up with Liberta to wipe Esperanza from the map.
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Theunit|afk (Top Lusa): No one shoots Lusa and laugh in the end.
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| War started on: 22:40:02 21-01-2014 | War ended on: 23:17:01 21-01-2014 |
| Bullet difference: -194,224 | War duration: 36m |
| Money difference: +$5,660,238 | Players died: 6 |
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Anonymous (16:00:30 - 23-01)
Anonymous (00:30:11 - 23-01)
ReBorN at 00:00:17 on 23/01:
You can't have the benefit of having another high rank in your family without the risk of paying for it when he fucks up. If you want to invite random players that you don't know then you pay for the mistakes they make. And if you don't, like Esperanza, your family dies. You can't have the reward without having the risk.
In our family we screen each person we invite. If by the time they are high ranked if we don't know them well enough and don't feel comfortable with them we part ways. So don't tell me 100+ member families don't know all their members. That is not an excuse. If you don't know your members then you aren't doing your job as a top.
You can't have the benefit of having another high rank in your family without the risk of paying for it when he fucks up. If you want to invite random players that you don't know then you pay for the mistakes they make. And if you don't, like Esperanza, your family dies. You can't have the reward without having the risk.
In our family we screen each person we invite. If by the time they are high ranked if we don't know them well enough and don't feel comfortable with them we part ways. So don't tell me 100+ member families don't know all their members. That is not an excuse. If you don't know your members then you aren't doing your job as a top.
This I agree with, You screen a person while they play inside your fam, then act accordingly. The notion of tops Knowing everyone upon entry into the fam I call BS.
Anonymous (00:07:33 - 23-01)
Italien- at 13:42:23 on 22/01:
Actually either tops or several members know them all.. Random invites is begging for trouble.
Anonymous at 13:23:48 on 22/01:
BS mate! There is no way these fams with 100+ in them know the history of all their members...
Redspeert at 13:15:51 on 22/01:
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
Anonymous at 06:54:04 on 22/01:
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
BS mate! There is no way these fams with 100+ in them know the history of all their members...
Actually either tops or several members know them all.. Random invites is begging for trouble.
I suicided on a lucchese member early on in this version, now im slowly ranking again inside lucchese. but im sure their tops knew that before responding to my request to join the fam. Forgive and Forget, I like that.
You can't have the benefit of having another high rank in your family without the risk of paying for it when he fucks up. If you want to invite random players that you don't know then you pay for the mistakes they make. And if you don't, like Esperanza, your family dies. You can't have the reward without having the risk.
In our family we screen each person we invite. If by the time they are high ranked if we don't know them well enough and don't feel comfortable with them we part ways. So don't tell me 100+ member families don't know all their members. That is not an excuse. If you don't know your members then you aren't doing your job as a top.
In our family we screen each person we invite. If by the time they are high ranked if we don't know them well enough and don't feel comfortable with them we part ways. So don't tell me 100+ member families don't know all their members. That is not an excuse. If you don't know your members then you aren't doing your job as a top.
Anonymous (15:28:18 - 22-01)
Anonymous at 11:58:56 on 22/01:
:o No, you don't!
Anonymous at 06:54:04 on 22/01:
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Apparently, they did.
Ofc, you better pay up, when you screw up.
Anonymous at 13:23:48 on 22/01:
BS mate! There is no way these fams with 100+ in them know the history of all their members...
Redspeert at 13:15:51 on 22/01:
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
Anonymous at 06:54:04 on 22/01:
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
BS mate! There is no way these fams with 100+ in them know the history of all their members...
Actually either tops or several members know them all.. Random invites is begging for trouble.
Anonymous (13:23:48 - 22-01)
Redspeert at 13:15:51 on 22/01:
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
Anonymous at 06:54:04 on 22/01:
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
BS mate! There is no way these fams with 100+ in them know the history of all their members...
Anonymous at 06:54:04 on 22/01:
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Ehh, no you don't. If you do that it says enough about you and your family.
Anonymous (11:58:56 - 22-01)
Anonymous at 06:54:04 on 22/01:
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Nakketikker (11:33:24 - 22-01)
Anonymous at 01:51:16 on 22/01:
well, back in the old days i remember it was hard to get in a fam.. you really had to proove yourself. pickpocket in 2 days, theif in 3 days etc. It was also weekly payments to the capo.. i miss it :) nowdays it seems like some fams uses jails etc. for random invite. -S.
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
I miss it as well, but lack of playerbase is the only reason for this ;)
Anonymous (11:12:17 - 22-01)
Anonymous at 07:50:29 on 22/01:
i am not sure this Esperanza family was the oldschool Esperanza..cus this family was the worst family created in the omerta history :')
i am not sure this Esperanza family was the oldschool Esperanza..cus this family was the worst family created in the omerta history :')
+1
Anonymous (07:51:46 - 22-01)
Anonymous at 02:40:30 on 22/01:
So in short.
Noob tops, invited random noob dupe. Random noob dupe suicides on some Don.
Noob tops refuse to pay for their member. Noob tops fam got shot?
Is that basically the narrative of this?
So in short.
Noob tops, invited random noob dupe. Random noob dupe suicides on some Don.
Noob tops refuse to pay for their member. Noob tops fam got shot?
Is that basically the narrative of this?
Anonymous (07:50:29 - 22-01)
i am not sure this Esperanza family was the oldschool Esperanza..cus this family was the worst family created in the omerta history :')
Anonymous (06:54:04 - 22-01)
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
At this stage of the game you're inviting new players on blind trust. some work out, some don't
Anonymous (02:40:30 - 22-01)
So in short.
Noob tops, invited random noob dupe. Random noob dupe suicides on some Don.
Noob tops refuse to pay for their member. Noob tops fam got shot?
Is that basically the narrative of this?
Noob tops, invited random noob dupe. Random noob dupe suicides on some Don.
Noob tops refuse to pay for their member. Noob tops fam got shot?
Is that basically the narrative of this?
Anonymous (01:51:16 - 22-01)
Redspeert at 00:59:34 on 22/01:
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
well, back in the old days i remember it was hard to get in a fam.. you really had to proove yourself. pickpocket in 2 days, theif in 3 days etc. It was also weekly payments to the capo.. i miss it :) nowdays it seems like some fams uses jails etc. for random invite. -S.
Elky|afk (01:01:29 - 22-01)
NewYearpresent at 00:58:39 on 22/01:
Lusa coudnt kill 4 lc ? they needed liberta ? :D
Criminal at 00:50:21 on 22/01:
They can't control random suiciders but they always have to pay blood money. It seems that they didn't want to pay and had big mouths. Their death was well deserved imo :)
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They can't control random suiciders but they always have to pay blood money. It seems that they didn't want to pay and had big mouths. Their death was well deserved imo :)
Lusa coudnt kill 4 lc ? they needed liberta ? :D
Esperanza's top3 killed a Liberta member, hence the reason why Liberta shot
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They also claimed to not know who the guy were.
"wesk dont say anyth?ng only join last day and fire we cant know this situation cant control.
the capo and others dont know anyh?ng. but this murder not our bussiness."
Why the hell do you invite a guy if you know nothing about him? It seems to be a normal tactic for certain fams to invite anything that can crawl, doesn't matter if they know the person or not.
NewYearpresent (00:58:39 - 22-01)
Criminal at 00:50:21 on 22/01:
They can't control random suiciders but they always have to pay blood money. It seems that they didn't want to pay and had big mouths. Their death was well deserved imo :)
Anonymous at 00:45:46 on 22/01:
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
Anonymous at 23:31:23 on 21/01:
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
If you run a family you need to control your members. If you can't and you have a big mouth, you will swim with the fishes. Idiot tops. Liberta and Lusa killed Esperanza
Explain how are they ment to control a random suicider?
They can't control random suiciders but they always have to pay blood money. It seems that they didn't want to pay and had big mouths. Their death was well deserved imo :)
Lusa coudnt kill 4 lc ? they needed liberta ? :D
You can't have the benefit of having another high rank in your family without the risk of paying for it when he fucks up. If you want to invite random players that you don't know then you pay for the mistakes they make. And if you don't, like Esperanza, your family dies. You can't have the reward without having the risk.
In our family we screen each person we invite. If by the time they are high ranked if we don't know them well enough and don't feel comfortable with them we part ways. So don't tell me 100+ member families don't know all their members. That is not an excuse. If you don't know your members then you aren't doing your job as a top.
This I agree with, You screen a person while they play inside your fam, then act accordingly. The notion of tops Knowing everyone upon entry into the fam I call BS.
Yes, but do you also agree on, you have to pay up if they screw up?
If not, you didn't get post at all.