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14-11 The end is here!
Author: ReBorN
Last updated: 3979d 2h 28m 58s ago by Smul
Comments: 230
Views: 86,009
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Version: 4.4
Involved families: Alpagus, Anadolu, Ataraxia, Goodfellas, Jannisary, Karadeniz, Ottoman, Outpost, Peace, Persico, Prestige, Regicide, Andalusia, Indelicato, Krays, Presidential
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With the version coming to a rapid close there was only one inevitable war left to take place Justice+ vs the rest of Omerta.

As the day faded away it became clear that Justice+ had hired detectives on Presidential & Krays. Immediately Presidential, Krays, Indelicato, and Andalusia hired on Justice+. They were not quick enough and Justice+ struck first taking out several of their top members. The victims returned fire within several minutes.

With every family in Omerta involved this seems to be the last major war of the version.
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Gsbaba (Jannisary) - Justice Top:



« Gsbaba » 0:0-0:16 Before the war
« Gsbaba » 0:16-0:55- After the war

« Gsbaba » First of all,
« Gsbaba » We heard Krays was asking fams to shoot Justice altough we have non-shoot agreement.So we acted first.
« Gsbaba » It was a great version. Thanks everyone who make this game better.And to our soldier; you were great kankas . Rip to all Jannisary , Regicide , Alpagus, Karadeniz, Outpost, Peace, Persico, Anadolu, Prestige soldiers. And our new kankas Goodfellas you were great thnx for everything _o_ See you next version. cya :w
statistics
War started on: 21:16:02 14-11-2013 War ended on: 20:22:01 16-11-2013
Bullet difference: -33,786,061 War duration: 1d 23h 5m
Money difference: -$2,854,829,372 Players died: 373




deaths
Dead Families:
[Andalusia] Family down on 05:55 16-11
[Ataraxia] Family down on 04:59 16-11
[Indelicato] Family down on 03:11 16-11
[Presidential] Family down on 11:37 15-11
[Krays] Family down on 23:18 14-11
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Alpagus | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 19
Anadolu | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 10
Andalusia | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 3 | chief: 1 | brug: 2 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 72
Ataraxia | swin: 1 | assa: 2 | lc: 4 | chief: 3 | brug: 10 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 216
Goodfellas | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 1 | points: 34
Indelicato | swin: 14 | assa: 9 | lc: 9 | chief: 6 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 215
Jannisary | swin: 7 | assa: 5 | lc: 6 | chief: 1 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 3 | points: 213
Karadeniz | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 81
Krays | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 3 | chief: 9 | brug: 25 | cd: 1 | gf: 1 | points: 479
Ottoman | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 25
Outpost | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 22
Peace | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 2 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 26
Persico | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 3 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 49
Presidential | swin: 1 | assa: 5 | lc: 12 | chief: 5 | brug: 17 | cd: 0 | gf: 2 | points: 407
Prestige | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 18
Regicide | swin: 0 | assa: 3 | lc: 2 | chief: 2 | brug: 9 | cd: 2 | gf: 1 | points: 228
Total | swin: 34 | assa: 32 | lc: 46 | chief: 32 | brug: 78 | cd: 5 | gf: 9 | points: 2,114
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Nakketikker (10:11:46 - 18-11)
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nobody reranks, they empty their lackey credits and quite or rerank a bit to lc to suicide
Anonymous (06:34:55 - 18-11)
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Kujala (none) 18-11 @ 06:34 Dishonour -140
Anonymous (21:30:16 - 17-11)
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lets all send dhp to that kujala guy :-)
Soph Netherlands (21:10:19 - 17-11)
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Saros`away at 20:34:34 on 17/11:
Soph at 20:21:05 on 17/11:
Be a dear and point out the glaring contradiction in my testimony.


'don't forget that they are actually the only fucking families that came and ranked back after getting shot down'

...

'I was commenting on the general mentality of players not reranking, yes other families reranked, that's hardly the point.'



np yw.

Bonus points to you sir. I think you just leveled up.
Anonymous (20:47:01 - 17-11)
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but i guess there will be no reranking fams next version, more like rerankers entering existing fams.
Saros`away Netherlands (20:34:34 - 17-11)
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Soph at 20:21:05 on 17/11:
Be a dear and point out the glaring contradiction in my testimony.


'don't forget that they are actually the only fucking families that came and ranked back after getting shot down'

...

'I was commenting on the general mentality of players not reranking, yes other families reranked, that's hardly the point.'



np yw.
Soph Netherlands (20:21:05 - 17-11)
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Be a dear and point out the glaring contradiction in my testimony.
Anonymous (19:19:03 - 17-11)
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first you say
Soph at 08:00:00 on 17/11:
It's just like how I see people down here complaining about Faffie and Krays and whatever.. they played their versions, tbh I think they did great considering their circumstances.. don't forget that they are actually the only fucking families that came and ranked back after getting shot down. Pure gold to these families <3!

then you say
Soph at 17:24:00 on 17/11:
I was commenting on the general mentality of players not reranking, yes other families reranked, that's hardly the point. It's too bad that it's not on the same scale as earlier versions where everyone and their mothers would be on their third account by the blazing finale.

we all idiots not?
Anonymous (19:02:06 - 17-11)
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Soph at 17:24:00 on 17/11:
I was commenting on the general mentality of players not reranking, yes other families reranked, that's hardly the point. It's too bad that it's not on the same scale as earlier versions where everyone and their mothers would be on their third account by the blazing finale.
Would you be so kind and tell me the names of your personal account(s) in this version?
Soph Netherlands (17:24:00 - 17-11)
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I was commenting on the general mentality of players not reranking, yes other families reranked, that's hardly the point. It's too bad that it's not on the same scale as earlier versions where everyone and their mothers would be on their third account by the blazing finale.
Anonymous (09:40:18 - 17-11)
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Saros`away at 09:34:17 on 17/11:
Anonymous at 09:26:25 on 17/11:
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Saros`away at 09:12:11 on 17/11:

Eh, no you aren't.

Do you mean "Eh, no THEY aren't." ?!

That he decided to speak about Krays in third-person doesn't make it any less his fam.

But to clarify, no they weren't the only fams that came back Sophi xoxo


I agree they weren't the only one who reranked their asses .. Almost everyone did.
Anonymous (09:36:33 - 17-11)
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Anonymous at 09:26:25 on 17/11:
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Saros`away at 09:12:11 on 17/11:

Eh, no you aren't.

Do you mean "Eh, no THEY aren't." ?!
evil spirits might argue with that soph abused faffie's name to fulsomely praise his krays to the skies ;d
Saros`away Netherlands (09:34:17 - 17-11)
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Anonymous at 09:26:25 on 17/11:
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Saros`away at 09:12:11 on 17/11:

Eh, no you aren't.

Do you mean "Eh, no THEY aren't." ?!

That he decided to speak about Krays in third-person doesn't make it any less his fam.

But to clarify, no they weren't the only fams that came back Sophi xoxo
Anonymous (09:26:25 - 17-11)
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Saros`away at 09:12:11 on 17/11:

Eh, no you aren't.

Do you mean "Eh, no THEY aren't." ?!
Saros`away Netherlands (09:12:11 - 17-11)
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Soph at 08:00:00 on 17/11:
Anonymous at 19:26:13 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:56:24 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:42:25 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:41:38 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 12:41:24 on 16/11:
squiggy at 02:20:20 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:13:41 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:11:21 on 16/11:
Krays and Ballestrieri are two different fams, different tops and different members so stop telling they are the same
[16:56] <@NoobSurv> [Families] Namechange: Ballestrieri → Krays

okay.


Exactly!
They actually did change the name.. So you make no sense Anon1

They should have sticked with Ballestrieri name. Krays isn't krays anymore anyway. The tops who made that fam and made some name with it don't play anymore. It used to be fun in krays, but nowadays? This version alone they shot once, got countered on and that was it. They even had not shoot deals, c'mon. The last couple of versions wasn't that much better, participate in some gangbangs with their don in sh. Too bad though it was a fam with quite some potential, but their best days are in the past, might be best to retire he name and to move on. (or get some old tops back)

Some fams with lack of history ARE doing good these days, i.e. Faffie. And although a much smaller player base i think Presidential had a really nice version as well.

Janni/justice alliance is probably the winner of this round. (cuz being on top at the end, can't say they dominated this version)
Smul best killer/best account (although indelicato/dig has had better versions)
Biggest waste, maraz, so big, so many cds but didn't do much with it.
Most unlucky probably provenzano, since they didn't expect fams to counter on them.
Biggest fails, Nazdrovia and the constructionspot abusers, but there is hope for Nazd since i heard kuro is coming back to claim their title.

Actually I think this was one of the better versions for Nazdrovia. At least they jumped a few times for their bloods this time. So this is an actual improvement.
Most unlucky fam toss up between Provenzano and Krays. This was simply not their version.

Most disappointing Faffie. I mean Fenrir cried here about Pentagram sold them out, they even asked families to stop to shoot them to get their revenge on them. Then they spent all version long to rank up again, shoot DIG-Nazdrovia and helped Justice+ (with Karadeniz(Pentagram)) to claim this version. I am still baffled how people try to sell this as doing good.

*edited

Faffie did not intend to help justice+ at all.
At the time of the Nazd+ attack, there was essential 3 blood pacts alive (nazd+ , justice+ and anrchy/faffie+) and the intention was to take that down to 2.
In hindsight it was maybe a little short sighted as rebirth accounts are so weak, but our bloods attacked and got involved, of course meaning we had to act (we are not cowards/huggers).

So yeah maybe we were not the wisest of families this version, but will learn from our mistakes.

Emlin

Whether it was Faffie's intention or not, that was what it came down to in the end. And when you did not see this coming, then you better get some tops who know that 1+1=2.
It was 3 sides. A attacks B, C wins. It was that easy. That A got "sold out like dogs" by C earlier this version, and then A got surprised they actually attacked them to claim the version is really mind-boggling. More so, when people claim A played a smart/good version.


It's just like how I see people down here complaining about Faffie and Krays and whatever.. they played their versions, tbh I think they did great considering their circumstances.. don't forget that they are actually the only fucking families that came and ranked back after getting shot down. Pure gold to these families <3!
Eh, no you aren't.
Soph Netherlands (08:00:00 - 17-11)
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Anonymous at 19:26:13 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:56:24 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:42:25 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:41:38 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 12:41:24 on 16/11:
squiggy at 02:20:20 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:13:41 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:11:21 on 16/11:
Krays and Ballestrieri are two different fams, different tops and different members so stop telling they are the same
[16:56] <@NoobSurv> [Families] Namechange: Ballestrieri → Krays

okay.


Exactly!
They actually did change the name.. So you make no sense Anon1

They should have sticked with Ballestrieri name. Krays isn't krays anymore anyway. The tops who made that fam and made some name with it don't play anymore. It used to be fun in krays, but nowadays? This version alone they shot once, got countered on and that was it. They even had not shoot deals, c'mon. The last couple of versions wasn't that much better, participate in some gangbangs with their don in sh. Too bad though it was a fam with quite some potential, but their best days are in the past, might be best to retire he name and to move on. (or get some old tops back)

Some fams with lack of history ARE doing good these days, i.e. Faffie. And although a much smaller player base i think Presidential had a really nice version as well.

Janni/justice alliance is probably the winner of this round. (cuz being on top at the end, can't say they dominated this version)
Smul best killer/best account (although indelicato/dig has had better versions)
Biggest waste, maraz, so big, so many cds but didn't do much with it.
Most unlucky probably provenzano, since they didn't expect fams to counter on them.
Biggest fails, Nazdrovia and the constructionspot abusers, but there is hope for Nazd since i heard kuro is coming back to claim their title.

Actually I think this was one of the better versions for Nazdrovia. At least they jumped a few times for their bloods this time. So this is an actual improvement.
Most unlucky fam toss up between Provenzano and Krays. This was simply not their version.

Most disappointing Faffie. I mean Fenrir cried here about Pentagram sold them out, they even asked families to stop to shoot them to get their revenge on them. Then they spent all version long to rank up again, shoot DIG-Nazdrovia and helped Justice+ (with Karadeniz(Pentagram)) to claim this version. I am still baffled how people try to sell this as doing good.

*edited

Faffie did not intend to help justice+ at all.
At the time of the Nazd+ attack, there was essential 3 blood pacts alive (nazd+ , justice+ and anrchy/faffie+) and the intention was to take that down to 2.
In hindsight it was maybe a little short sighted as rebirth accounts are so weak, but our bloods attacked and got involved, of course meaning we had to act (we are not cowards/huggers).

So yeah maybe we were not the wisest of families this version, but will learn from our mistakes.

Emlin

Whether it was Faffie's intention or not, that was what it came down to in the end. And when you did not see this coming, then you better get some tops who know that 1+1=2.
It was 3 sides. A attacks B, C wins. It was that easy. That A got "sold out like dogs" by C earlier this version, and then A got surprised they actually attacked them to claim the version is really mind-boggling. More so, when people claim A played a smart/good version.


It's just like how I see people down here complaining about Faffie and Krays and whatever.. they played their versions, tbh I think they did great considering their circumstances.. don't forget that they are actually the only fucking families that came and ranked back after getting shot down. Pure gold to these families <3!
Fenrir Norway (19:49:18 - 16-11)
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Anonymous at 19:26:13 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:56:24 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:42:25 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:41:38 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 12:41:24 on 16/11:
squiggy at 02:20:20 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:13:41 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:11:21 on 16/11:
Krays and Ballestrieri are two different fams, different tops and different members so stop telling they are the same
[16:56] <@NoobSurv> [Families] Namechange: Ballestrieri → Krays

okay.


Exactly!
They actually did change the name.. So you make no sense Anon1

They should have sticked with Ballestrieri name. Krays isn't krays anymore anyway. The tops who made that fam and made some name with it don't play anymore. It used to be fun in krays, but nowadays? This version alone they shot once, got countered on and that was it. They even had not shoot deals, c'mon. The last couple of versions wasn't that much better, participate in some gangbangs with their don in sh. Too bad though it was a fam with quite some potential, but their best days are in the past, might be best to retire he name and to move on. (or get some old tops back)

Some fams with lack of history ARE doing good these days, i.e. Faffie. And although a much smaller player base i think Presidential had a really nice version as well.

Janni/justice alliance is probably the winner of this round. (cuz being on top at the end, can't say they dominated this version)
Smul best killer/best account (although indelicato/dig has had better versions)
Biggest waste, maraz, so big, so many cds but didn't do much with it.
Most unlucky probably provenzano, since they didn't expect fams to counter on them.
Biggest fails, Nazdrovia and the constructionspot abusers, but there is hope for Nazd since i heard kuro is coming back to claim their title.

Actually I think this was one of the better versions for Nazdrovia. At least they jumped a few times for their bloods this time. So this is an actual improvement.
Most unlucky fam toss up between Provenzano and Krays. This was simply not their version.

Most disappointing Faffie. I mean Fenrir cried here about Pentagram sold them out, they even asked families to stop to shoot them to get their revenge on them. Then they spent all version long to rank up again, shoot DIG-Nazdrovia and helped Justice+ (with Karadeniz(Pentagram)) to claim this version. I am still baffled how people try to sell this as doing good.

*edited

Faffie did not intend to help justice+ at all.
At the time of the Nazd+ attack, there was essential 3 blood pacts alive (nazd+ , justice+ and anrchy/faffie+) and the intention was to take that down to 2.
In hindsight it was maybe a little short sighted as rebirth accounts are so weak, but our bloods attacked and got involved, of course meaning we had to act (we are not cowards/huggers).

So yeah maybe we were not the wisest of families this version, but will learn from our mistakes.

Emlin

Whether it was Faffie's intention or not, that was what it came down to in the end. And when you did not see this coming, then you better get some tops who know that 1+1=2.
It was 3 sides. A attacks B, C wins. It was that easy. That A got "sold out like dogs" by C earlier this version, and then A got surprised they actually attacked them to claim the version is really mind-boggling. More so, when people claim A played a smart/good version.

You seem clever. You should register ;-)

Anyways our fam aint the oldest, nor have we cooperated with every fam in the game once upon a time - so we learn by trying. Anyways, some action had to be taken since we were rebirths, us staying on the defensive wouldnt help anything since we naturally would be one-shotted. Maybe going vs Nazdr+ was the wrong step, but im pretty sure the same outcome(us dead) would have been a reality no matter what way we played it out. We acted vs the side with the least bonds between us. Personally i was disappointed Karadeniz shot vs us, no matter how many anonymous blabbering in here, we didnt expect it - we helped them up, shared spots and had some IRL connections with them.Persico joining in a war vs us(indirectly) was unexpected aswell, but all in all - people do what they need to for a version win, its only natural. We expected getting shot day after naz/dig war, but unfortunately they acted earlier than expected.

And we've always played tight with our bloods, maybe some of our actions have been directly hurtful later, but we'll do what needed both for ourselves and for our allies.

But this was my last answer to anons for the day! This version is already put behind us, looking forward to next o/

Anonymous (19:26:13 - 16-11)
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Anonymous at 18:56:24 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:42:25 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:41:38 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 12:41:24 on 16/11:
squiggy at 02:20:20 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:13:41 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:11:21 on 16/11:
Krays and Ballestrieri are two different fams, different tops and different members so stop telling they are the same
[16:56] <@NoobSurv> [Families] Namechange: Ballestrieri → Krays

okay.


Exactly!
They actually did change the name.. So you make no sense Anon1

They should have sticked with Ballestrieri name. Krays isn't krays anymore anyway. The tops who made that fam and made some name with it don't play anymore. It used to be fun in krays, but nowadays? This version alone they shot once, got countered on and that was it. They even had not shoot deals, c'mon. The last couple of versions wasn't that much better, participate in some gangbangs with their don in sh. Too bad though it was a fam with quite some potential, but their best days are in the past, might be best to retire he name and to move on. (or get some old tops back)

Some fams with lack of history ARE doing good these days, i.e. Faffie. And although a much smaller player base i think Presidential had a really nice version as well.

Janni/justice alliance is probably the winner of this round. (cuz being on top at the end, can't say they dominated this version)
Smul best killer/best account (although indelicato/dig has had better versions)
Biggest waste, maraz, so big, so many cds but didn't do much with it.
Most unlucky probably provenzano, since they didn't expect fams to counter on them.
Biggest fails, Nazdrovia and the constructionspot abusers, but there is hope for Nazd since i heard kuro is coming back to claim their title.

Actually I think this was one of the better versions for Nazdrovia. At least they jumped a few times for their bloods this time. So this is an actual improvement.
Most unlucky fam toss up between Provenzano and Krays. This was simply not their version.

Most disappointing Faffie. I mean Fenrir cried here about Pentagram sold them out, they even asked families to stop to shoot them to get their revenge on them. Then they spent all version long to rank up again, shoot DIG-Nazdrovia and helped Justice+ (with Karadeniz(Pentagram)) to claim this version. I am still baffled how people try to sell this as doing good.

*edited

Faffie did not intend to help justice+ at all.
At the time of the Nazd+ attack, there was essential 3 blood pacts alive (nazd+ , justice+ and anrchy/faffie+) and the intention was to take that down to 2.
In hindsight it was maybe a little short sighted as rebirth accounts are so weak, but our bloods attacked and got involved, of course meaning we had to act (we are not cowards/huggers).

So yeah maybe we were not the wisest of families this version, but will learn from our mistakes.

Emlin

Whether it was Faffie's intention or not, that was what it came down to in the end. And when you did not see this coming, then you better get some tops who know that 1+1=2.
It was 3 sides. A attacks B, C wins. It was that easy. That A got "sold out like dogs" by C earlier this version, and then A got surprised they actually attacked them to claim the version is really mind-boggling. More so, when people claim A played a smart/good version.
Anonymous (18:56:24 - 16-11)
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Anonymous at 18:42:25 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 18:41:38 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 12:41:24 on 16/11:
squiggy at 02:20:20 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:13:41 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:11:21 on 16/11:
Krays and Ballestrieri are two different fams, different tops and different members so stop telling they are the same
[16:56] <@NoobSurv> [Families] Namechange: Ballestrieri → Krays

okay.


Exactly!
They actually did change the name.. So you make no sense Anon1

They should have sticked with Ballestrieri name. Krays isn't krays anymore anyway. The tops who made that fam and made some name with it don't play anymore. It used to be fun in krays, but nowadays? This version alone they shot once, got countered on and that was it. They even had not shoot deals, c'mon. The last couple of versions wasn't that much better, participate in some gangbangs with their don in sh. Too bad though it was a fam with quite some potential, but their best days are in the past, might be best to retire he name and to move on. (or get some old tops back)

Some fams with lack of history ARE doing good these days, i.e. Faffie. And although a much smaller player base i think Presidential had a really nice version as well.

Janni/justice alliance is probably the winner of this round. (cuz being on top at the end, can't say they dominated this version)
Smul best killer/best account (although indelicato/dig has had better versions)
Biggest waste, maraz, so big, so many cds but didn't do much with it.
Most unlucky probably provenzano, since they didn't expect fams to counter on them.
Biggest fails, Nazdrovia and the constructionspot abusers, but there is hope for Nazd since i heard kuro is coming back to claim their title.

Actually I think this was one of the better versions for Nazdrovia. At least they jumped a few times for their bloods this time. So this is an actual improvement.
Most unlucky fam toss up between Provenzano and Krays. This was simply not their version.

Most disappointing Faffie. I mean Fenrir cried here about Pentagram sold them out, they even asked families to stop to shoot them to get their revenge on them. Then they spent all version long to rank up again, shoot DIG-Nazdrovia and helped Justice+ (with Karadeniz(Pentagram)) to claim this version. I am still baffled how people try to sell this as doing good.

*edited

Faffie did not intend to help justice+ at all.
At the time of the Nazd+ attack, there was essential 3 blood pacts alive (nazd+ , justice+ and anrchy/faffie+) and the intention was to take that down to 2.
In hindsight it was maybe a little short sighted as rebirth accounts are so weak, but our bloods attacked and got involved, of course meaning we had to act (we are not cowards/huggers).

So yeah maybe we were not the wisest of families this version, but will learn from our mistakes.

Emlin
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Anonymous at 18:41:38 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 12:41:24 on 16/11:
squiggy at 02:20:20 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:13:41 on 16/11:
Anonymous at 02:11:21 on 16/11:
Krays and Ballestrieri are two different fams, different tops and different members so stop telling they are the same
[16:56] <@NoobSurv> [Families] Namechange: Ballestrieri → Krays

okay.


Exactly!
They actually did change the name.. So you make no sense Anon1

They should have sticked with Ballestrieri name. Krays isn't krays anymore anyway. The tops who made that fam and made some name with it don't play anymore. It used to be fun in krays, but nowadays? This version alone they shot once, got countered on and that was it. They even had not shoot deals, c'mon. The last couple of versions wasn't that much better, participate in some gangbangs with their don in sh. Too bad though it was a fam with quite some potential, but their best days are in the past, might be best to retire he name and to move on. (or get some old tops back)

Some fams with lack of history ARE doing good these days, i.e. Faffie. And although a much smaller player base i think Presidential had a really nice version as well.

Janni/justice alliance is probably the winner of this round. (cuz being on top at the end, can't say they dominated this version)
Smul best killer/best account (although indelicato/dig has had better versions)
Biggest waste, maraz, so big, so many cds but didn't do much with it.
Most unlucky probably provenzano, since they didn't expect fams to counter on them.
Biggest fails, Nazdrovia and the constructionspot abusers, but there is hope for Nazd since i heard kuro is coming back to claim their title.

Actually I think this was one of the better versions for Nazdrovia. At least they jumped a few times for their bloods this time. So this is an actual improvement.
Most unlucky fam toss up between Provenzano and Krays. This was simply not their version.

Most disappointing Faffie. I mean Fenrir cried here about Pentagram sold them out, they even asked families to stop to shoot them to get their revenge on them. Then they spent all version long to rank up again, shoot DIG-Nazdrovia and helped Justice+ (with Karadeniz(Pentagram)) to claim this version. I am still baffled how people try to sell this as doing good.

*edited

I heard faffie has some IRL connections with karadeniz. thats why they trusted karadeniz word. besides that, faffie also helped karadeniz going up and even shared spots with them, so them shooting vs faffie is rather surprising. persico which was their bloods also joined a war vs them indirectly. thats already 2 big factors that went against them.