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10-10 Construction Fraud revealed! -update-
Author: Smul
Last updated: 4091d 22h 43m 7s ago by Smul
Comments: 107
Views: 44,439
Votes: 2 (5 average)
Version: 4.4
Involved families: Amazing, Jannisary, Karadeniz, Koninkrijk, Peace, Persico
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Like so many have hinted and seen happening already this version. The big construction companies owned by the local mafia were using their power to gain money in even darker ways than usual for thugs. The feds caught on to the fraud and execution the culprits.



Two days after the Akilling spree, we see people getting akilled yet again. Though this time not because they cheated, but because they are getting a revive. Their killers were among the exploiters.
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War started on: 19:47:02 10-10-2013 War ended on: 20:22:00 10-10-2013
Bullet difference: -915,764 War duration: 34m
Money difference: -$599,073,792 Players died: 23




deaths
Dead Families:
[Peace] Family down on 19:53 10-10
[Karadeniz] Family down on 19:53 10-10
[Peace] Family down on 19:53 10-10
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
| swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 2
Amazing | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 1
Jannisary | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Karadeniz | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 81
Koninkrijk | swin: 0 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 6
Peace | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Persico | swin: 2 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 17
Total | swin: 3 | assa: 3 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 133
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anno (21:27:27 - 10-10)
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Anonymous at 21:10:46 on 10/10:
Singularity at 20:43:40 on 10/10:
The admins really shot themselves in the leg with this one. They either rollback and apologize or this game dies. I did not know this was an exploit, thought it was simply more efficient CD boosting, did not know it was actually generating money out of thin air. I am sure a lot of other people are the same. Doesn't really matter in the end. The problem is the crew reaction. Instead of fixing this and doing their best to take the money, etc. they blanket Akill. This WILL kill the game if they are not careful.
Singularity

This is completely surprising. I've seen dubious actions from crew in the past, but this totally isn't one of them. It's impossible to just generate hundreds of millions of dollars out of thin air without noticing, or while thinking it's okay to do so. I'm glad to see most families having a construction spot didn't really abuse their spots.

As for people saying "If it's a bug they should fix it not punish the player for abusing it." Just read the disclaimer you're agreeing to, when registering an account for omerta. It clearly states "You may not: (...) (2) exploit any bugs in the game code or the structure of the game for the furtherment of you character in Omerta." Don't complain about something that's clear from the rules of the game.

but it is not a BUG
Anonymous (21:24:34 - 10-10)
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Anonymous at 21:20:12 on 10/10:
FUCK I just wasn't sure of my purchase and I have bought and sold my villa for about ~500 times the last week, how was I supposed to know??? :(

;);)

Haha so funny, there arent enough hours in a week to buy/sell a villa that many times.
Anonymous (21:20:12 - 10-10)
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FUCK I just wasn't sure of my purchase and I have bought and sold my villa for about ~500 times the last week, how was I supposed to know??? :(

;);)
Anonymous (21:13:14 - 10-10)
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Anonymous at 21:05:37 on 10/10:
not even surprising anymore, it's even kinda expected to happen regularly :'D

after advising ex-scripters, Bramble should give some tips on how to abuse without getting caught I think

LOL I love you <3


Anonymous (21:11:21 - 10-10)
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In RL in Palermo the maffia created a construction bubble my making their companies win unneeded construction contracts.
Smul Netherlands (21:11:13 - 10-10)
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Anonymous at 21:05:37 on 10/10:
not even surprising anymore, it's even kinda expected to happen regularly :'D

after advising ex-scripters, Bramble should give some tips on how to abuse without getting caught I think

I actually think "advising" ex-scripters is a good thing in this instance.

What if all ex-scripters didn't change their password and all of a sudden they would deploy a mass hacking and just start shooting random people? People would cry their fucking guts out. Blaming the crew for not doing anything about it, while they knew about the hackings going on.

Imo this preventive measure is a good one.
Anonymous (21:10:46 - 10-10)
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Singularity at 20:43:40 on 10/10:
The admins really shot themselves in the leg with this one. They either rollback and apologize or this game dies. I did not know this was an exploit, thought it was simply more efficient CD boosting, did not know it was actually generating money out of thin air. I am sure a lot of other people are the same. Doesn't really matter in the end. The problem is the crew reaction. Instead of fixing this and doing their best to take the money, etc. they blanket Akill. This WILL kill the game if they are not careful.
Singularity

This is completely surprising. I've seen dubious actions from crew in the past, but this totally isn't one of them. It's impossible to just generate hundreds of millions of dollars out of thin air without noticing, or while thinking it's okay to do so. I'm glad to see most families having a construction spot didn't really abuse their spots.

As for people saying "If it's a bug they should fix it not punish the player for abusing it." Just read the disclaimer you're agreeing to, when registering an account for omerta. It clearly states "You may not: (...) (2) exploit any bugs in the game code or the structure of the game for the furtherment of you character in Omerta." Don't complain about something that's clear from the rules of the game.
Anonymous (21:09:32 - 10-10)
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lavish at 21:02:59 on 10/10:
[22:03:19] <BadGirl> hey
[22:03:25] <lavish> ???
[22:03:26] <BadGirl> sorry Maffiajuice kicked u
[22:03:27] <lavish> idal
[22:03:32] <lavish> really
[22:03:32] <BadGirl> something went wrong
[22:03:33] <lavish> lmao
[22:03:41] <lavish> plz
[22:03:44] <lavish> someone tell me
[22:03:48] <lavish> where this bug is
[22:03:49] <BadGirl> there is nothing wrong with the CC
[22:04:01] <lavish> so
[22:04:05] <lavish> why am i akilled
[22:04:06] <BadGirl> but buy sell buy sell appartment is en exploit
[22:04:07] <lavish> lmao


Yes I can see the joke too, it's the (A) in front of your ingame.
Anonymous (21:09:16 - 10-10)
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lavish at 21:02:59 on 10/10:
[22:03:19] <BadGirl> hey
[22:03:25] <lavish> ???
[22:03:26] <BadGirl> sorry Maffiajuice kicked u

:'D
Anonymous (21:05:37 - 10-10)
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not even surprising anymore, it's even kinda expected to happen regularly :'D

after advising ex-scripters, Bramble should give some tips on how to abuse without getting caught I think
lavish (21:02:59 - 10-10)
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[22:03:19] <BadGirl> hey
[22:03:25] <lavish> ???
[22:03:26] <BadGirl> sorry Maffiajuice kicked u
[22:03:27] <lavish> idal
[22:03:32] <lavish> really
[22:03:32] <BadGirl> something went wrong
[22:03:33] <lavish> lmao
[22:03:41] <lavish> plz
[22:03:44] <lavish> someone tell me
[22:03:48] <lavish> where this bug is
[22:03:49] <BadGirl> there is nothing wrong with the CC
[22:04:01] <lavish> so
[22:04:05] <lavish> why am i akilled
[22:04:06] <BadGirl> but buy sell buy sell appartment is en exploit
[22:04:07] <lavish> lmao
Anonymous (21:01:47 - 10-10)
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Really, if there is a chance of originating millions from spot profit out of nowhere, the players will of course use it. So admins, fix this so there cannot be millions from nowhere, and stop akilling. Your rules create a chance to make millions, so some playes takes the chance make millions, and you mass-akill them? It does not sound 100% fair to me.
Anonymous (20:58:56 - 10-10)
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Anonymous at 20:51:57 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:49:28 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:47:05 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:44:33 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:42:40 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:41:18 on 10/10:
They say "bug abuse" well its admis mistake then, they should fix bugs.
its not a bug if it does what it says on the tin read wikki and then tell me its a bug

well take a look on pillory : "bug abuser" according to the admins

yes but who is right buy/sell narcs for boost capo or buy/sell house for profit, wiki says it allowed, so admins make your mind up and sort your mess out!!!
boosting DOESN'T FUCKING GENERATE ANY MONEY. Abusing this design flaw does. DO YOU GET THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?

How did the abusing actually happens?


Apparently quite simple.
Buy an appartment in the city your family owns the Construction company.
Money from the construction goes to the spot.
Sell your appartment for 90% of the value, repeat over and over again.
Your account loses 10% of the appartment value, but the spot does not lose anything. Do it often enough big profit for your family, and you can ask for compensation from your fam.

Let's assume you bought appartments worth 10 mil. You sell them for 9 Mil. So you lose 1 mil, but your fam spot made 10 mil profit.
Net gain 9 mil.

Judging from the numbers the construction companies posted.
800 mil profit. Means 720 mil were generated out of thin air.
Anonymous (20:58:28 - 10-10)
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Singularity at 20:52:27 on 10/10:
I never even considered buying and selling an apartment could work like this. Yeah, silly me for thinking that a BLATANT flaw in the system would be fixed in something claimed to be a finished product and ASKING PEOPLE FOR MONEY.

So you didnt think something was off when your family generated money out of nowhere? Atleast you talk like someone who has a brain so why didnt it come to mind that it should be reported and not abused? Quite silly that you think you can create money like you're some kind of alchemist and dont get punished for it. It's the law of Equivalent exchange. (I wonder if someone gets this reference ehueuheu)
Anonymous (20:57:49 - 10-10)
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Revive hal! She got killed by kara!
Smul Netherlands (20:57:13 - 10-10)
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Keep it civilised guys.
KCode Portugal Patron (20:56:31 - 10-10)
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The bug only appeared couple days ago (less than 3 weeks) when we noticed the CC was not receiving money from Villas/Appartments buyings.

It was my fault to release this, since I totally forgot that selling was giving 90% back and left that part completely untouched. Some people were telling me about it, so I investigated it. I've fixed it couple days ago but then I realize some people were abusing it so took it out and catched them instead.

It's fixed now, next time it's easier to come report, I guess.

Sorry for the part where I totally didn't predict the sell issue but not sorry for entire familiies abusing it :)
Singularity (20:52:27 - 10-10)
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I never even considered buying and selling an apartment could work like this. Yeah, silly me for thinking that a BLATANT flaw in the system would be fixed in something claimed to be a finished product and ASKING PEOPLE FOR MONEY.
Anonymous (20:51:57 - 10-10)
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Anonymous at 20:49:28 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:47:05 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:44:33 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:42:40 on 10/10:
Anonymous at 20:41:18 on 10/10:
They say "bug abuse" well its admis mistake then, they should fix bugs.
its not a bug if it does what it says on the tin read wikki and then tell me its a bug

well take a look on pillory : "bug abuser" according to the admins

yes but who is right buy/sell narcs for boost capo or buy/sell house for profit, wiki says it allowed, so admins make your mind up and sort your mess out!!!
boosting DOESN'T FUCKING GENERATE ANY MONEY. Abusing this design flaw does. DO YOU GET THE FUCKING DIFFERENCE?

How did the abusing actually happens?
Anonymous (20:50:34 - 10-10)
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LOL
Some things never change.
A bug is found, once it's popularized and spread across Omerta.
Admins start investigating and eventually do the akills.

The abusers caught with their hand in the cookie jar start complaining about the akills. :)