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After five days, the admins finally made a decision in response to the bugs, which we now know had been in the game for years. They decided that the only way to restore the balance in the game is to reset.
Although 53% of you guys were in favour of a reset when we asked you four days ago what the admins should do, the responses on the announcement are heavy. So, what do you think about the reset?
Although 53% of you guys were in favour of a reset when we asked you four days ago what the admins should do, the responses on the announcement are heavy. So, what do you think about the reset?
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microbi (17:29:19 - 24-01)
Anonymous (17:02:48 - 24-01)
Anonymous at 14:12:20 on 24/01:
wonderful!
you played in gravano this vers right? this is the perfect chance to prove how clean gravano and their friends are! just make every glitch you know public here so admins have no other chance but "rewritting some part of the basecode". i am sure flowzz and many more will like that. we will have a cleaner game thanks to you!
asdf at 12:37:36 on 24/01:
well to all the gangsters i'm gonna share with you some informations
1- this game have atm 6 glitches where u can win alot money/bullets almost for free
2- the admins ONLY can resolve all the glitches/bugs if they put the devs rewritting some part of the basecode but the will take some time, and we all know how the admis like the dc's money
well to all the gangsters i'm gonna share with you some informations
1- this game have atm 6 glitches where u can win alot money/bullets almost for free
2- the admins ONLY can resolve all the glitches/bugs if they put the devs rewritting some part of the basecode but the will take some time, and we all know how the admis like the dc's money
you played in gravano this vers right? this is the perfect chance to prove how clean gravano and their friends are! just make every glitch you know public here so admins have no other chance but "rewritting some part of the basecode". i am sure flowzz and many more will like that. we will have a cleaner game thanks to you!
Johnny at 15:04:39 on 24/01:
People been dying from cheaters since this game exists, every and I mean every family has cheaters. This game is won by people who can cheat better. You can deny it but it's how this game is. Saying Lucchese (or anyone else) is winning by cheating, and talking about BS/Yigidos Turkuz as they're Brando's little angels is laughable, these families produced more dupes/sharers than some families have members. Only reason why they didn't make their own script or abused bugs is probably cause they didn't know how. And Lucchese has huge history about cheating, they had their own script. Same as family you used to be member had guy in top who is famous for "hacking", scripting, using multiple accounts and what not...
gode at 11:48:04 on 24/01:
ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get?
ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get?
People been dying from cheaters since this game exists, every and I mean every family has cheaters. This game is won by people who can cheat better. You can deny it but it's how this game is. Saying Lucchese (or anyone else) is winning by cheating, and talking about BS/Yigidos Turkuz as they're Brando's little angels is laughable, these families produced more dupes/sharers than some families have members. Only reason why they didn't make their own script or abused bugs is probably cause they didn't know how. And Lucchese has huge history about cheating, they had their own script. Same as family you used to be member had guy in top who is famous for "hacking", scripting, using multiple accounts and what not...
i didn't comment on history of cheating Johnny.
i have just replied to a guy who is telling ppl "we have manual rankers/DC Buyers alive, that's not fair to them". and my reply is : "ppl died in this version are also in same condition, so you can't claim a compensation."
kredu at 14:58:40 on 24/01:
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
Actually bug happens in the opposite way, not that way.
When the verification has no cast made but the (int) cast is made after verification...
So 900e+100 would pass verification of <900 and then would be casted to 90000000000 in QUERY.
Anonymous (15:26:46 - 24-01)
Rix at 15:08:27 on 24/01:
Oh god, I don't even...
If that's actual code they have (I guess they did because I reckon you reproduced the bug with that code) then the devs are even dumber than I ever thought.
php -r "print (int) '10+e6';"
10
PHP is just so damn broken...
kredu at 14:58:40 on 24/01:
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
If that's actual code they have (I guess they did because I reckon you reproduced the bug with that code) then the devs are even dumber than I ever thought.
php -r "print (int) '10+e6';"
10
PHP is just so damn broken...
Johnny at 15:09:17 on 24/01:
Lackeys were only logical thing after Brando failed to stop scripts. There are no manual rankers, honestly I can't imagine anyone going back to manual ranking after trying lackeys or script. Ranking is utterly boring process that is not rewarding or interesting at all. It doesn't get more fun the more you do it, it gets more and more boring.
Brando will never do that, it will be final nail in Omerta's coffin. Lackeys did destroy game however, now big families have 80+ brugs, back in days if you had more than 15-20 brugs you were considered huge. To shoot 80+ brug fam even if you have double that, you need at least 3 or 4 more times that number, simply cause from your 120 brugs maybe you can get 20-30 online on war night at your most active nights. And you can't risk leaving 40 brugs alive just cause you don't know how active they are.
caliquela at 11:49:11 on 24/01:
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
Lackeys were only logical thing after Brando failed to stop scripts. There are no manual rankers, honestly I can't imagine anyone going back to manual ranking after trying lackeys or script. Ranking is utterly boring process that is not rewarding or interesting at all. It doesn't get more fun the more you do it, it gets more and more boring.
Brando will never do that, it will be final nail in Omerta's coffin. Lackeys did destroy game however, now big families have 80+ brugs, back in days if you had more than 15-20 brugs you were considered huge. To shoot 80+ brug fam even if you have double that, you need at least 3 or 4 more times that number, simply cause from your 120 brugs maybe you can get 20-30 online on war night at your most active nights. And you can't risk leaving 40 brugs alive just cause you don't know how active they are.
caliquela at 11:49:11 on 24/01:
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
Lackeys were only logical thing after Brando failed to stop scripts. There are no manual rankers, honestly I can't imagine anyone going back to manual ranking after trying lackeys or script. Ranking is utterly boring process that is not rewarding or interesting at all. It doesn't get more fun the more you do it, it gets more and more boring.
Brando will never do that, it will be final nail in Omerta's coffin. Lackeys did destroy game however, now big families have 80+ brugs, back in days if you had more than 15-20 brugs you were considered huge. To shoot 80+ brug fam even if you have double that, you need at least 3 or 4 more times that number, simply cause from your 120 brugs maybe you can get 20-30 online on war night at your most active nights. And you can't risk leaving 40 brugs alive just cause you don't know how active they are.
kredu at 14:58:40 on 24/01:
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
If that's actual code they have (I guess they did because I reckon you reproduced the bug with that code) then the devs are even dumber than I ever thought.
php -r "print (int) '10+e6';"
10
PHP is just so damn broken...
gode at 11:48:04 on 24/01:
ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get?
ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get?
People been dying from cheaters since this game exists, every and I mean every family has cheaters. This game is won by people who can cheat better. You can deny it but it's how this game is. Saying Lucchese (or anyone else) is winning by cheating, and talking about BS/Yigidos Turkuz as they're Brando's little angels is laughable, these families produced more dupes/sharers than some families have members. Only reason why they didn't make their own script or abused bugs is probably cause they didn't know how. And Lucchese has huge history about cheating, they had their own script. Same as family you used to be member had guy in top who is famous for "hacking", scripting, using multiple accounts and what not...
Why people are pissed is that all this is one big joke. You really think Brando and his capable crew fixed these bugs over night? It's all lovely and good now so we can reset and you can buy DC's again. Don't fool yourself, nothing changed and I hope someone steps up and shows it to everyone. Brando is not capable of running good game, his post on facebook last night where he says they didn't reset to get money is laughable completely. Only thing he cares is getting money, if he cared about game he wouldn't let it come to this point.
Honestly I even doubt Omerta has real devs, it's probably some people working in other companies who Brando hires for a part time job for a day or two to program game.
How to replicate the bug:
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}
Great devs. :')
Rollback aint an option since you dont know what wars were "infected". Reset had to be done but this is useless. The post below allmost says the truth except that there are prolly more then 6 glitches.
The only way to save this is to rewrite/check all the code which would take ages. And in fact they had these ages to do it. Every version since 1.0 has been bugged/abused, but rather to deal with the main problem "source code" they just "fix" bugs each time.
Like I said before on the site this is game is kinda like Windows 95 with service pack 23, a shitty code which keeps being repared each time.
I think its time to hire proper devs and spend money on them to create omerta 4.0 with entire new code behind it. Cause now they can reset but you got no guarentee that next version wont have simular problems and will reset after 1 month also.
@edit: maybe nice to get all the bugs people know from past in the post just to show how shitty this game was, maybe then people will see this was not the first time the game got fucked..
The only way to save this is to rewrite/check all the code which would take ages. And in fact they had these ages to do it. Every version since 1.0 has been bugged/abused, but rather to deal with the main problem "source code" they just "fix" bugs each time.
Like I said before on the site this is game is kinda like Windows 95 with service pack 23, a shitty code which keeps being repared each time.
I think its time to hire proper devs and spend money on them to create omerta 4.0 with entire new code behind it. Cause now they can reset but you got no guarentee that next version wont have simular problems and will reset after 1 month also.
@edit: maybe nice to get all the bugs people know from past in the post just to show how shitty this game was, maybe then people will see this was not the first time the game got fucked..
Anonymous (14:12:20 - 24-01)
asdf at 12:37:36 on 24/01:
well to all the gangsters i'm gonna share with you some informations
1- this game have atm 6 glitches where u can win alot money/bullets almost for free
2- the admins ONLY can resolve all the glitches/bugs if they put the devs rewritting some part of the basecode but the will take some time, and we all know how the admis like the dc's money
well to all the gangsters i'm gonna share with you some informations
1- this game have atm 6 glitches where u can win alot money/bullets almost for free
2- the admins ONLY can resolve all the glitches/bugs if they put the devs rewritting some part of the basecode but the will take some time, and we all know how the admis like the dc's money
you played in gravano this vers right? this is the perfect chance to prove how clean gravano and their friends are! just make every glitch you know public here so admins have no other chance but "rewritting some part of the basecode". i am sure flowzz and many more will like that. we will have a cleaner game thanks to you!
Anonymous (13:52:44 - 24-01)
caliquela at 11:49:11 on 24/01:
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
yeah lets welcome back all the lazy scripters, that will help :')
well to all the gangsters i'm gonna share with you some informations
1- this game have atm 6 glitches where u can win alot money/bullets almost for free
2- the admins ONLY can resolve all the glitches/bugs if they put the devs rewritting some part of the basecode but the will take some time, and we all know how the admis like the dc's money
3- don't blame the ppl that used the health/bullets/hitlist glitch, it's not our fault that the basecode have bugs, last version i sended a mail to brando with a printsreen were you can see a bug on lackeys if u use an iphone. ex if u send lets say 2m to sluggs quickly he'll only get half of the money and i got a mail back saying "we are gonna check that asap", and for your information the bug still there
4- dont trust on brando or bramble when they say all the problems will be resolved on the next version, coz i rly don't believe, they probably writted some code to prevent the bug to work that way. i bet if i spend some of my time breaking the basecode i'll find others glitches
1- this game have atm 6 glitches where u can win alot money/bullets almost for free
2- the admins ONLY can resolve all the glitches/bugs if they put the devs rewritting some part of the basecode but the will take some time, and we all know how the admis like the dc's money
3- don't blame the ppl that used the health/bullets/hitlist glitch, it's not our fault that the basecode have bugs, last version i sended a mail to brando with a printsreen were you can see a bug on lackeys if u use an iphone. ex if u send lets say 2m to sluggs quickly he'll only get half of the money and i got a mail back saying "we are gonna check that asap", and for your information the bug still there
4- dont trust on brando or bramble when they say all the problems will be resolved on the next version, coz i rly don't believe, they probably writted some code to prevent the bug to work that way. i bet if i spend some of my time breaking the basecode i'll find others glitches
caliquela (11:49:11 - 24-01)
My opinion is that the game is fucked up, when the lackeys were introduced.
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
I think they better can set up a new version for manual players.
I know admins cannot earn as much on such a version, but it would be nice if we have a version who stays on for half a year til 1 year
Most people retiring don't do so, simply because they don't think the reset is fair. Most do so, since there really is no compensation for any money or time spent in the game fairly. If you spent several DCs in the game, what do you get? Hardly anything. If you are one of those who still ranked by hand (yes, those existed!), what happens? You just get nothing, except for hours even more lost than they would otherwise have been. That's what's so unfair about it.
(And that's apart from the fact that there will probably still be many bugs next version(s))
ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get? you just think of alive users. purgatory had quite some good ranking last version, they had manuel rankers/dc buyers whatever you tell in your post. what did they get for this version? maybe you reward them with a hug and say "you shot ppl with %199 health and they used 2 billion bug money as fam, sorry but wait 5 months until those fams finish the version"
if everyone starts with 5k credits for example, that's ok. but if you say "credits from 3.52 carried to new version" then bug money abusers and ppl that recieved money from that abusers would have advantage on ppl that don't use bugs.
i totally agree about poor development skills of omerta team and poor management from crew. but other stuff i don't agree.
Anonymous (11:38:04 - 24-01)
ElIndio at 10:38:35 on 24/01:
I won’t address the bug abusers in this post as they’ve got no reason to cry about anything. This is directed to those people who played fair and feel victimized by the coming reset.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
16-01 You reap what you sow
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
I see 4 major wars in which many fams died against proven cheaters and suspected fams. 3 wars based on the outcome of the war(s) before - all within 8 days. In God’s name, who can tell me that the game would take the course it did take till the point of reset announcement? I see fams complaining which had a good advance base, but tell me how you came to that point?
It is not your fault – but things could’ve been different, way different.
By not accepting that the reset is fair, don’t you in fact trivialize the massive bug abuse and show no sense for the common good and the rights of everyone who played without bugs and died because of exactly that? Because those are the first and direct victims. It is thoughtless to say “I invested much efforts and money into my account and my fam”. Didn’t the loosers of this story do either?
Think about it.
I won’t address the bug abusers in this post as they’ve got no reason to cry about anything. This is directed to those people who played fair and feel victimized by the coming reset.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
16-01 You reap what you sow
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
I see 4 major wars in which many fams died against proven cheaters and suspected fams. 3 wars based on the outcome of the war(s) before - all within 8 days. In God’s name, who can tell me that the game would take the course it did take till the point of reset announcement? I see fams complaining which had a good advance base, but tell me how you came to that point?
It is not your fault – but things could’ve been different, way different.
By not accepting that the reset is fair, don’t you in fact trivialize the massive bug abuse and show no sense for the common good and the rights of everyone who played without bugs and died because of exactly that? Because those are the first and direct victims. It is thoughtless to say “I invested much efforts and money into my account and my fam”. Didn’t the loosers of this story do either?
Think about it.
its also thoughtless to say everybody dead was clean. In every war I can name a dead family that had bug abusers and massive dupers In them. its up to the admins and developers to catch them, the code that was bugged was nothing but plain amateuristic so don't expect next version to be without bugs.
Anonymous (11:10:03 - 24-01)
ElIndio at 10:38:35 on 24/01:
I won’t address the bug abusers in this post as they’ve got no reason to cry about anything. This is directed to those people who played fair and feel victimized by the coming reset.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
16-01 You reap what you sow
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
I see 4 major wars in which many fams died against proven cheaters and suspected fams. 3 wars based on the outcome of the war(s) before - all within 8 days. In God’s name, who can tell me that the game would take the course it did take till the point of reset announcement? I see fams complaining which had a good advance base, but tell me how you came to that point?
It is not your fault – but things could’ve been different, way different.
By not accepting that the reset is fair, don’t you in fact trivialize the massive bug abuse and show no sense for the common good and the rights of everyone who played without bugs and died because of exactly that? Because those are the first and direct victims. It is thoughtless to say “I invested much efforts and money into my account and my fam”. Didn’t the loosers of this story do either?
Think about it.
I won’t address the bug abusers in this post as they’ve got no reason to cry about anything. This is directed to those people who played fair and feel victimized by the coming reset.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
16-01 You reap what you sow
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
I see 4 major wars in which many fams died against proven cheaters and suspected fams. 3 wars based on the outcome of the war(s) before - all within 8 days. In God’s name, who can tell me that the game would take the course it did take till the point of reset announcement? I see fams complaining which had a good advance base, but tell me how you came to that point?
It is not your fault – but things could’ve been different, way different.
By not accepting that the reset is fair, don’t you in fact trivialize the massive bug abuse and show no sense for the common good and the rights of everyone who played without bugs and died because of exactly that? Because those are the first and direct victims. It is thoughtless to say “I invested much efforts and money into my account and my fam”. Didn’t the loosers of this story do either?
Think about it.
(And that's apart from the fact that there will probably still be many bugs next version(s))
I won’t address the bug abusers in this post as they’ve got no reason to cry about anything. This is directed to those people who played fair and feel victimized by the coming reset.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
16-01 You reap what you sow
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
I see 4 major wars in which many fams died against proven cheaters and suspected fams. 3 wars based on the outcome of the war(s) before - all within 8 days. In God’s name, who can tell me that the game would take the course it did take till the point of reset announcement? I see fams complaining which had a good advance base, but tell me how you came to that point?
It is not your fault – but things could’ve been different, way different.
By not accepting that the reset is fair, don’t you in fact trivialize the massive bug abuse and show no sense for the common good and the rights of everyone who played without bugs and died because of exactly that? Because those are the first and direct victims. It is thoughtless to say “I invested much efforts and money into my account and my fam”. Didn’t the loosers of this story do either?
Think about it.
09-01 Omerta's New Year's Resolution
11-01 There was a FIREFIGHT!
16-01 You reap what you sow
17-01 To shoot or not to shoot
I see 4 major wars in which many fams died against proven cheaters and suspected fams. 3 wars based on the outcome of the war(s) before - all within 8 days. In God’s name, who can tell me that the game would take the course it did take till the point of reset announcement? I see fams complaining which had a good advance base, but tell me how you came to that point?
It is not your fault – but things could’ve been different, way different.
By not accepting that the reset is fair, don’t you in fact trivialize the massive bug abuse and show no sense for the common good and the rights of everyone who played without bugs and died because of exactly that? Because those are the first and direct victims. It is thoughtless to say “I invested much efforts and money into my account and my fam”. Didn’t the loosers of this story do either?
Think about it.
Sunseeker (07:24:37 - 24-01)
My thoughts?
Retired from active ranking... This time for good.
Retired from active ranking... This time for good.
Mainly because no1 else left and then even my "click-per-day" ranking speed is enough!
Less player - higher I'll be in # *\o/*