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After five days, the admins finally made a decision in response to the bugs, which we now know had been in the game for years. They decided that the only way to restore the balance in the game is to reset.

Although 53% of you guys were in favour of a reset when we asked you four days ago what the admins should do, the responses on the announcement are heavy. So, what do you think about the reset?
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Anonymous (01:22:31 - 27-01)
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travian is such a retarded game.. i always get farmed on xD bitches
Sawer Turkey (22:58:00 - 26-01)
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:w .com
Octavello United States (15:07:19 - 26-01)
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You know things are bad, when Travian starts looking like a decent alternative again!
Nooti Albania (21:30:57 - 25-01)
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Anonymous at 21:26:58 on 25/01:
Leonhart at 11:45:32 on 25/01:
Nooti at 00:20:03 on 25/01:
Leonhart at 22:56:00 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 19:12:12 on 24/01:
gode at 18:07:33 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s



Nope impossible, Brando is saving for this pub with the brewery.
I kinda try to imagine how that Pub run by Brando looks like. I imagine it as some place with some holes in a wall, well nah, rather the wall is missing and Brando is assuring everybody, that he has people working on replacing the door.

He's already making ads for his awesome pub, check it out

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u42e7d.png

why do u give a fuck about his personal life ! if u dont wanna play you should've stoped long time ago since he fucked up the game long time ago but .. you didnt u still bought dc's and gave him money and now u bitch around so not cool :)

Overreaction much?
Yeah, you're wrong.
Haven't bought one dc with real money since 2.3, so none of his cash came from my pocket lately. Don't know why you are bashing me, seems you are the one that got buttfucked :) I don't give a fuck at what he does with the DC money, I play for fun, and when I don't have fun, I quit. Simple as that.


Look son no one is bashing you and my country dosent support paypal or any sms system that lets u buy dc but just saying that more than 50 % of players buy dc's and after smth bad happens in omerta they start bitching about stupid shit ! if u stop dc's 2 things might happen brando will close the game or game will get improved so u should really consider these things btw none of this was for you it was for all of the players :)

btw that was me forgot to log in !
Anonymous (21:26:58 - 25-01)
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Leonhart at 11:45:32 on 25/01:
Nooti at 00:20:03 on 25/01:
Leonhart at 22:56:00 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 19:12:12 on 24/01:
gode at 18:07:33 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s



Nope impossible, Brando is saving for this pub with the brewery.
I kinda try to imagine how that Pub run by Brando looks like. I imagine it as some place with some holes in a wall, well nah, rather the wall is missing and Brando is assuring everybody, that he has people working on replacing the door.

He's already making ads for his awesome pub, check it out

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u42e7d.png

why do u give a fuck about his personal life ! if u dont wanna play you should've stoped long time ago since he fucked up the game long time ago but .. you didnt u still bought dc's and gave him money and now u bitch around so not cool :)

Overreaction much?
Yeah, you're wrong.
Haven't bought one dc with real money since 2.3, so none of his cash came from my pocket lately. Don't know why you are bashing me, seems you are the one that got buttfucked :) I don't give a fuck at what he does with the DC money, I play for fun, and when I don't have fun, I quit. Simple as that.


Look son no one is bashing you and my country dosent support paypal or any sms system that lets u buy dc but just saying that more than 50 % of players buy dc's and after smth bad happens in omerta they start bitching about stupid shit ! if u stop dc's 2 things might happen brando will close the game or game will get improved so u should really consider these things btw none of this was for you it was for all of the players :)
shell (16:35:45 - 25-01)
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Dos at 14:23:52 on 25/01:
I like french fries

I like french kiss

I always start the day by giving myself french kiss in the mirror in each morning
Dos Norway (14:23:52 - 25-01)
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I like french fries
Leonhart Portugal (11:45:32 - 25-01)
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Nooti at 00:20:03 on 25/01:
Leonhart at 22:56:00 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 19:12:12 on 24/01:
gode at 18:07:33 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s



Nope impossible, Brando is saving for this pub with the brewery.
I kinda try to imagine how that Pub run by Brando looks like. I imagine it as some place with some holes in a wall, well nah, rather the wall is missing and Brando is assuring everybody, that he has people working on replacing the door.

He's already making ads for his awesome pub, check it out

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u42e7d.png

why do u give a fuck about his personal life ! if u dont wanna play you should've stoped long time ago since he fucked up the game long time ago but .. you didnt u still bought dc's and gave him money and now u bitch around so not cool :)

Overreaction much?
Yeah, you're wrong.
Haven't bought one dc with real money since 2.3, so none of his cash came from my pocket lately. Don't know why you are bashing me, seems you are the one that got buttfucked :) I don't give a fuck at what he does with the DC money, I play for fun, and when I don't have fun, I quit. Simple as that.
Nooti Albania (00:20:03 - 25-01)
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Leonhart at 22:56:00 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 19:12:12 on 24/01:
gode at 18:07:33 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s



Nope impossible, Brando is saving for this pub with the brewery.
I kinda try to imagine how that Pub run by Brando looks like. I imagine it as some place with some holes in a wall, well nah, rather the wall is missing and Brando is assuring everybody, that he has people working on replacing the door.

He's already making ads for his awesome pub, check it out

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u42e7d.png

why do u give a fuck about his personal life ! if u dont wanna play you should've stoped long time ago since he fucked up the game long time ago but .. you didnt u still bought dc's and gave him money and now u bitch around so not cool :)
Leonhart Portugal (22:56:00 - 24-01)
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Anonymous at 19:12:12 on 24/01:
gode at 18:07:33 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s



Nope impossible, Brando is saving for this pub with the brewery.
I kinda try to imagine how that Pub run by Brando looks like. I imagine it as some place with some holes in a wall, well nah, rather the wall is missing and Brando is assuring everybody, that he has people working on replacing the door.

He's already making ads for his awesome pub, check it out

http://i46.tinypic.com/2u42e7d.png
Lamark Korea, Republic of (22:17:23 - 24-01)
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Redspeert at 19:44:00 on 24/01:
Lamark at 19:25:39 on 24/01:
Redspeert at 00:09:19 on 24/01:
Well, when you put two like these together...Brando, lets call him herp. When you place him together with Bramblerose, lets call her herp.

Then you get this thing called Herpderp.

shouldn't it be "Herpherp"? o.o

My intention was to write herp and derp, not herp and herp ;(.

Ah I knew that.. I just miss chatting with you and ze :(
Redspeert Syrian Arab Republic (19:44:00 - 24-01)
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Lamark at 19:25:39 on 24/01:
Redspeert at 00:09:19 on 24/01:
Well, when you put two like these together...Brando, lets call him herp. When you place him together with Bramblerose, lets call her herp.

Then you get this thing called Herpderp.

shouldn't it be "Herpherp"? o.o

My intention was to write herp and derp, not herp and herp ;(.
Lamark Korea, Republic of (19:25:39 - 24-01)
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Redspeert at 00:09:19 on 24/01:
Well, when you put two like these together...Brando, lets call him herp. When you place him together with Bramblerose, lets call her herp.

Then you get this thing called Herpderp.

shouldn't it be "Herpherp"? o.o
Anonymous (19:12:12 - 24-01)
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gode at 18:07:33 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s



Nope impossible, Brando is saving for this pub with the brewery.
I kinda try to imagine how that Pub run by Brando looks like. I imagine it as some place with some holes in a wall, well nah, rather the wall is missing and Brando is assuring everybody, that he has people working on replacing the door.
Anonymous (19:09:13 - 24-01)
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Drimacus at 14:46:48 on 24/01:
Rollback aint an option since you dont know what wars were "infected". Reset had to be done but this is useless. The post below allmost says the truth except that there are prolly more then 6 glitches.

The only way to save this is to rewrite/check all the code which would take ages. And in fact they had these ages to do it. Every version since 1.0 has been bugged/abused, but rather to deal with the main problem "source code" they just "fix" bugs each time.

Like I said before on the site this is game is kinda like Windows 95 with service pack 23, a shitty code which keeps being repared each time.

I think its time to hire proper devs and spend money on them to create omerta 4.0 with entire new code behind it. Cause now they can reset but you got no guarentee that next version wont have simular problems and will reset after 1 month also.

@edit: maybe nice to get all the bugs people know from past in the post just to show how shitty this game was, maybe then people will see this was not the first time the game got fucked..

Could you come forward with the bug your are currently playing with?
gode Turkey (18:07:33 - 24-01)
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Anonymous at 18:05:09 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.

DCs bought by real cash => ok i agree that can be refund.

manual ranking => how the hell can you manage smthng like that. that developers cant even handle text inputs out there :s


Anonymous (18:05:09 - 24-01)
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Anonymous at 18:03:56 on 24/01:
Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

DCs are linked to email adresses. Nothing hard there.
Anonymous (18:03:56 - 24-01)
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Anonymous at 17:43:59 on 24/01:
Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.

how is that possible? revive all accounts back? only compensation could be made due to ranking and DCs can be made to alive accounts.

Anonymous (17:43:59 - 24-01)
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gode at 11:48:04 on 24/01:

Most people retiring don't do so, simply because they don't think the reset is fair. Most do so, since there really is no compensation for any money or time spent in the game fairly. If you spent several DCs in the game, what do you get? Hardly anything. If you are one of those who still ranked by hand (yes, those existed!), what happens? You just get nothing, except for hours even more lost than they would otherwise have been. That's what's so unfair about it.

(And that's apart from the fact that there will probably still be many bugs next version(s))

ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get? you just think of alive users. purgatory had quite some good ranking last version, they had manuel rankers/dc buyers whatever you tell in your post. what did they get for this version? maybe you reward them with a hug and say "you shot ppl with %199 health and they used 2 billion bug money as fam, sorry but wait 5 months until those fams finish the version"

if everyone starts with 5k credits for example, that's ok. but if you say "credits from 3.52 carried to new version" then bug money abusers and ppl that recieved money from that abusers would have advantage on ppl that don't use bugs.

i totally agree about poor development skills of omerta team and poor management from crew. but other stuff i don't agree.
gode at 15:36:39 on 24/01:
Johnny at 15:04:39 on 24/01:
gode at 11:48:04 on 24/01:
ppl died at the hands of bug abusers? what did they get? luchesse crew sending out cash against bs/yigidos & turkuz & purgatory etc. what did those player get?

People been dying from cheaters since this game exists, every and I mean every family has cheaters. This game is won by people who can cheat better. You can deny it but it's how this game is. Saying Lucchese (or anyone else) is winning by cheating, and talking about BS/Yigidos Turkuz as they're Brando's little angels is laughable, these families produced more dupes/sharers than some families have members. Only reason why they didn't make their own script or abused bugs is probably cause they didn't know how. And Lucchese has huge history about cheating, they had their own script. Same as family you used to be member had guy in top who is famous for "hacking", scripting, using multiple accounts and what not...

i didn't comment on history of cheating Johnny.

i have just replied to a guy who is telling ppl "we have manual rankers/DC Buyers alive, that's not fair to them". and my reply is : "ppl died in this version are also in same condition, so you can't claim a compensation."


Gode, maybe you should read back what I said, since you apparently don't get it. Where did I actually say I was restricting to accounts that are still alive? When I talk about people having spent DCs ingame and not getting any refund, that holds for those killed by the hands of bug abusers as well. The same thing for manually ranked accounts.

Don't assume things in posts that aren't there, please.
kredu Portugal (17:39:27 - 24-01)
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trepatudo at 15:32:26 on 24/01:
kredu at 14:58:40 on 24/01:
How to replicate the bug:

$bullets = (int) $_POST['bullets'];
if ($bullets > 400) //error
else {
//stuff
mysql_query("UPDATE `users` SET `bullets` = `bullets` + ".mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['bullets'])." WHERE `userid` = ".$userid);
}

Great devs. :')

Actually bug happens in the opposite way, not that way.

When the verification has no cast made but the (int) cast is made after verification...
So 900e+100 would pass verification of <900 and then would be casted to 90000000000 in QUERY.
Nope, '900e+100' is interpreted as 90000 by PHP and mySQL, so It would fail the validations. The only way it passes is by casting it to int causing it to be evaluated as 900 (weird php); and using the uncasted value for database query (noob devs).