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The Carneglia and Trotters families weren't happy that the AsFu alliance shot at their bloods Infragilis, and therefore Carneglia came up again for a brief moment in a number of small families and together with Plonkers they opened fire on AsFu.
Xzone has jumped in and is countering for AsFu.
Xzone has jumped in and is countering for AsFu.
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Cynakur (top Trotters): I have friends in Aspava and talked with them about taking some actions together, but last night they shot our closest bloods. We couldn't just let them go with it, so we hired on them against all odds and shot.
We had lot of fun this version and participated in 15-16 wars. Now is time to take some rest for the next version. Thanks to all my plonkers for a good time this version :) ZIG ZAG MEDVESCAK!!!
Hugo (top AsFu): Trotters were our old friends which we played many versions, and we never thought to fire them... but seems Cynakur doesn't think the same, whatever he choose his side and we are at our side. Kurosawa and Marazzino noobs shows him the wrong way, rip all who died ..
We had lot of fun this version and participated in 15-16 wars. Now is time to take some rest for the next version. Thanks to all my plonkers for a good time this version :) ZIG ZAG MEDVESCAK!!!
Hugo (top AsFu): Trotters were our old friends which we played many versions, and we never thought to fire them... but seems Cynakur doesn't think the same, whatever he choose his side and we are at our side. Kurosawa and Marazzino noobs shows him the wrong way, rip all who died ..
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| War started on: 17:42:04 30-10-2011 | War ended on: 21:29:02 30-10-2011 |
| Bullet difference: -5,419,984 | War duration: 3h 46m |
| Money difference: -$822,063,870 | Players died: 37 |
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maraz (14:57:00 - 31-10)
,, at 13:23:35 on 31/10:
im pretty sure you shot in the war that asfu was allready in and you shot againts there bloods so infact it was you who betrayed them not the other way around if you had a brain you prolly figure it out by now i guess your just very slowly working
Battalgazi at 08:05:28 on 31/10:
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
huh? what the fuck you sayin?
me again just to clear some things up.
Our action had nothing with Kurosawa nor Marazzino. It was our call. Aspava shot our close bloods and we shot back knowing we won't do much damage and that it's a suicide. What message we would send if we didn't shoot? Keep on shooting our bloods cause we won't do a shit? Who would take us as serious bloods after that? Sometimes you should have the balls and shoot for your bloods even when it's obvious that it is suicide. Short-term maybe it's not best thing you can do but in long-term you'll benefit from it.
I see some ppl keep saying that Carneglia and Marazzino are stupid fams. I know Carneglia guys for a long time and they always jumped to help their bloods. In this version too...they helped us against Anda/Firenze/Republica, they helped Gravano, Marazzino; Presidential and all their bloods whenever they could. Sorry...I was 2 years away from omerta. Can anyone enlighten me: when did shooting for your bloods became stupid and letting your bloods die and adding newones smart way to play? Same goes to Marazzino... I met them this version. Maybe they lack some diplomacy, but you know what you can expect from them. They will shoot no matter what...
Lot's of ppl take this game to serious and bash each other on personal level. This is just a game ffs and it should be fun.
Let me make parallel with my real life. I'm a big hockey fan and I follow my team on home and away games. It's an international league where are teams from Austria, Slovenia, Czech Republic, Hungary and Croatia. I made lot's of friends with fans of opponent teams. During the game we cheer for our teams and tease each other. After the game we make party's together,make bbq's, drink gallons of beer and have fun... Why can't you act same way here? Omerta has pretty small base of active players. Few k most...it's normal to have friends in all fams. Does it mean I won't shoot them? Ofc not...cause we would have one big huggmerta. Aspava made mistake. If they hired on my bloods, they had to hire on us too. Outcome would be same...Would I hate them cause of it? Of course not...it's a just a game:)
that's all from me on Beyond 'til the next version
have fun o/
Our action had nothing with Kurosawa nor Marazzino. It was our call. Aspava shot our close bloods and we shot back knowing we won't do much damage and that it's a suicide. What message we would send if we didn't shoot? Keep on shooting our bloods cause we won't do a shit? Who would take us as serious bloods after that? Sometimes you should have the balls and shoot for your bloods even when it's obvious that it is suicide. Short-term maybe it's not best thing you can do but in long-term you'll benefit from it.
I see some ppl keep saying that Carneglia and Marazzino are stupid fams. I know Carneglia guys for a long time and they always jumped to help their bloods. In this version too...they helped us against Anda/Firenze/Republica, they helped Gravano, Marazzino; Presidential and all their bloods whenever they could. Sorry...I was 2 years away from omerta. Can anyone enlighten me: when did shooting for your bloods became stupid and letting your bloods die and adding newones smart way to play? Same goes to Marazzino... I met them this version. Maybe they lack some diplomacy, but you know what you can expect from them. They will shoot no matter what...
Lot's of ppl take this game to serious and bash each other on personal level. This is just a game ffs and it should be fun.
Let me make parallel with my real life. I'm a big hockey fan and I follow my team on home and away games. It's an international league where are teams from Austria, Slovenia, Czech Republic, Hungary and Croatia. I made lot's of friends with fans of opponent teams. During the game we cheer for our teams and tease each other. After the game we make party's together,make bbq's, drink gallons of beer and have fun... Why can't you act same way here? Omerta has pretty small base of active players. Few k most...it's normal to have friends in all fams. Does it mean I won't shoot them? Ofc not...cause we would have one big huggmerta. Aspava made mistake. If they hired on my bloods, they had to hire on us too. Outcome would be same...Would I hate them cause of it? Of course not...it's a just a game:)
that's all from me on Beyond 'til the next version
have fun o/
ReViveD (14:31:12 - 31-10)
dark at 13:40:42 on 31/10:
Well i can do many things. :) for example i always keep my promises and i am a man of who is for his words...! Do you know to be a man? cause generally we call people like you ' to say something and do different thing.' You get what i mean... A man has to keep his word. IF he cant keep it that means he is not a MAN anymore. And well do you wanna see what i can do instead of writing... You always welcome dude...
Now u cant say a word because you know we are right. And now try to attack on my personality. I didnt say i am JESUS Christ. I did not say i am Mohammad (s.a.v) I said that i am a man who is keeping his word. I can be retard, i can be hothead. But NONE can say i eat my own word. So i dont have nothin to hide and explain.IF you wanna see what can i do, just visit me if u mean in reallife. And if u speak about game. You still didnt answer my question HUGO.... Which one is you? Backstabber SOB or just an idiot... Cut the crap and answer that.
hugo at 11:34:36 on 31/10:
do you have any ability to do something instead of writing in here ? or someting instead of swear ?
dark at 10:38:46 on 31/10:
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Well i can do many things. :) for example i always keep my promises and i am a man of who is for his words...! Do you know to be a man? cause generally we call people like you ' to say something and do different thing.' You get what i mean... A man has to keep his word. IF he cant keep it that means he is not a MAN anymore. And well do you wanna see what i can do instead of writing... You always welcome dude...
Now u cant say a word because you know we are right. And now try to attack on my personality. I didnt say i am JESUS Christ. I did not say i am Mohammad (s.a.v) I said that i am a man who is keeping his word. I can be retard, i can be hothead. But NONE can say i eat my own word. So i dont have nothin to hide and explain.IF you wanna see what can i do, just visit me if u mean in reallife. And if u speak about game. You still didnt answer my question HUGO.... Which one is you? Backstabber SOB or just an idiot... Cut the crap and answer that.
and ask yourself, didnt you shoot them ? moron dark
Anonymous at 11:20:16 on 31/10:
Dark, if you have a brain then why you always let others control you're marazinno ? :)
You always come her with much blabla an most of the time bullshit. It's just a game and you take way to serious. Sad to see
Dark, if you have a brain then why you always let others control you're marazinno ? :)
You always come her with much blabla an most of the time bullshit. It's just a game and you take way to serious. Sad to see
It' just a game about character. I dont believe that u are too much different in real life. I play how i am in real. I dont come here without nothing. If someone attacks on my family, in full of lies and shits. I do protect it with explain the truth. We aint dissapointed and noone control us. IF people licks you and then try to backstab you... its their own mistake. We will see.
P.S you are right maraz has to backstab all fams and win version then maybe we can have a name in the homo side. No Thanks!
hugo at 11:34:36 on 31/10:
do you have any ability to do something instead of writing in here ? or someting instead of swear ?
dark at 10:38:46 on 31/10:
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Well i can do many things. :) for example i always keep my promises and i am a man of who is for his words...! Do you know to be a man? cause generally we call people like you ' to say something and do different thing.' You get what i mean... A man has to keep his word. IF he cant keep it that means he is not a MAN anymore. And well do you wanna see what i can do instead of writing... You always welcome dude...
Now u cant say a word because you know we are right. And now try to attack on my personality. I didnt say i am JESUS Christ. I did not say i am Mohammad (s.a.v) I said that i am a man who is keeping his word. I can be retard, i can be hothead. But NONE can say i eat my own word. So i dont have nothin to hide and explain.IF you wanna see what can i do, just visit me if u mean in reallife. And if u speak about game. You still didnt answer my question HUGO.... Which one is you? Backstabber SOB or just an idiot... Cut the crap and answer that.
,, (13:23:35 - 31-10)
Battalgazi at 08:05:28 on 31/10:
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
Anonymous (12:33:14 - 31-10)
Fail? at 11:47:31 on 31/10:
So the attackers kinda failed? i dont see many asfu brugs+ dead.
So the attackers kinda failed? i dont see many asfu brugs+ dead.
Fail? (11:47:31 - 31-10)
So the attackers kinda failed? i dont see many asfu brugs+ dead.
Akri- (11:45:21 - 31-10)
klassikl at 23:03:09 on 30/10:
Can't help to remember the time when suiciding or doing all the damage you can when you feel screwed over was normal. Nice job ;)
Can't help to remember the time when suiciding or doing all the damage you can when you feel screwed over was normal. Nice job ;)
+ 1
blood loyalty for the win. I love this shit!
dark at 10:38:46 on 31/10:
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Honestly, i find asfu statement inadequate. I hope it's hugo's personal and not whole alliance's.
If you shoot someone's bloods means you do not care much about that someone, leaving him alone and unprotected. This is pretty normal and casual, but why then give an impression like Trotters were your beloved friends who backstabbed you?
It is normal to shoot non blooded families. It is also normal to retaliate for bloods. It is also normal to counter-retaliate with your bloods, not depending on family sizes and everything. From both sides, this was a nice and respectful war chain.
What is not normal in this case is blaming Trotters and trying to show them in some negative light, although they were acting as good bloods, and, most of all important, their actions were, actually, expected.
If you shoot someone's bloods means you do not care much about that someone, leaving him alone and unprotected. This is pretty normal and casual, but why then give an impression like Trotters were your beloved friends who backstabbed you?
It is normal to shoot non blooded families. It is also normal to retaliate for bloods. It is also normal to counter-retaliate with your bloods, not depending on family sizes and everything. From both sides, this was a nice and respectful war chain.
What is not normal in this case is blaming Trotters and trying to show them in some negative light, although they were acting as good bloods, and, most of all important, their actions were, actually, expected.
Anonymous (11:20:16 - 31-10)
Dark, if you have a brain then why you always let others control you're marazinno ? :)
You always come her with much blabla an most of the time bullshit. It's just a game and you take way to serious. Sad to see
You always come her with much blabla an most of the time bullshit. It's just a game and you take way to serious. Sad to see
Anonymous at 10:51:45 on 31/10:
Safehouse ? Can this dude reveal himself :') don't be jealous cause they have good bloods.
Furthermore do you're homework before naming fams they should shoot, sigh.
I agree with the bashing part, but that's omerta I guess. Or at least OB or fingon. This site, and before fingon, needs bashing to keep it alive :-)
Sigh there you have dark again, top (Turkish/English) without a brain.
Shoot yourself already
Safehouse ? Can this dude reveal himself :') don't be jealous cause they have good bloods.
Furthermore do you're homework before naming fams they should shoot, sigh.
I agree with the bashing part, but that's omerta I guess. Or at least OB or fingon. This site, and before fingon, needs bashing to keep it alive :-)
Sigh there you have dark again, top (Turkish/English) without a brain.
Shoot yourself already
Ah dont worry i have brain. It's just useless to use it against people like you. :)
Shy (11:06:26 - 31-10)
Good morning everyone, its me again. The one that posts from time to time just because I feel like it. I have to take the time this morning for a few reasons. The first is to thank Ffranky and all Infra it was an honor to be with all of you and yes once again I died among you. But thats okay too because its all part of the game. The key factor is we are all good friends and enjoy the laughs altogether.
Secondly, my sweet friends in Carneglia. You all are so very crazy. We cant help but love you! We ranked and were in a position to rise once again. Yet when our friends are shot it takes presidence over everything else. There are no better bloods the people I can call friends in our family. I am very proud of you all.
Lessons could be learned from all of you. They can flame us all they like but in our hearts and in our friendships they can never take it away from us.
Love you all.
Enjoy the game everyone!
Shy
Secondly, my sweet friends in Carneglia. You all are so very crazy. We cant help but love you! We ranked and were in a position to rise once again. Yet when our friends are shot it takes presidence over everything else. There are no better bloods the people I can call friends in our family. I am very proud of you all.
Lessons could be learned from all of you. They can flame us all they like but in our hearts and in our friendships they can never take it away from us.
Love you all.
Enjoy the game everyone!
Shy
Anonymous (10:51:45 - 31-10)
Safehouse ? Can this dude reveal himself :') don't be jealous cause they have good bloods.
Furthermore do you're homework before naming fams they should shoot, sigh.
I agree with the bashing part, but that's omerta I guess. Or at least OB or fingon. This site, and before fingon, needs bashing to keep it alive :-)
Sigh there you have dark again, top (Turkish/English) without a brain.
Shoot yourself already
Furthermore do you're homework before naming fams they should shoot, sigh.
I agree with the bashing part, but that's omerta I guess. Or at least OB or fingon. This site, and before fingon, needs bashing to keep it alive :-)
Sigh there you have dark again, top (Turkish/English) without a brain.
Shoot yourself already
Wahahahha marazzino noobs? Hugo then tell me why u were not goin out of pms of mara tops in the beginin of version...? Or you wanna see ur words to mara tops in pms in front of the whole omerta people... Like '' Sorry bro i do my best for marazzino. You are my kanka so ofc. i m with you.''
Well i have lots of convos you and my tops spoke in pm's about ur lovely actions. Now there are 2 questions for you...
First to speak like how we will play together at the beginin of version and now call maraz people noob is a conflict. Cause u were telling them kanka at the beginin... So is it normal or you are just 2 faces homosexual?
Second question is way more easier then this... Cynakur did not sell his bloods and died for it with his honor. But u exactly dont know what honor means or do you? Cause if you did know what it means you wouldnt go after this war between carneglia and DIG which is absolutely selling marazzino in that way. And come to us do not join in that war :). While all plan made on us.
So there are 2 points if u are backstabbing son of a bitch accept you are that. Or you are too blind to be true and idiot more than maraz tops to do not see that DIG vs. Carneglia war would keep maraz( As ur bloods) alive.
2 points if u accept 1 one u are just son of a bitch who cries for everything at the begining. And you can even sell ur ass to devil to get victory.If you choise another one u are just an idiot who did not even understand that move would kill your biggest ally in the game.
Thanks anyway...! And hugo dont worry kid. I wont swear to you cause u did it already for urself :) The question is do ur mom deserve it or not?
Anonymous (09:37:32 - 31-10)
Anonymous at 09:07:40 on 31/10:
looool @ hugo.
First you lied about that war two days ago. Then when Trotters (and carneglia people) tried to get some revenge for you shooting down a blood of Trotters (and carneglia) you cant handle it very well either. And start to bash on families which had nothing to do with this action. Maraz, Kuro (and even vinci was bashed by you) had nothing to do with last nights action. Trotters and carneglia acted on their own. Only reason that lead to this was your choice to shoot a blood of Trotters, nothing more and you shouldnt try to make more out of it.
You speak about vinci and then say you dont make under the table agreements yourself. Funny, we just saw your alliance shoot a fam who just reached top 30, but i dont see traffi listed as one of your bloods, yet they are in top 10. Same story applies to mero, edge, gambino, leviticus, rochester/loriga. But you dont dare to shoot them, in fact when trotters fired on you, what did you do? pwn them with your dozen fams and 5 gf accounts? no you went to safehouse and called Xzone for help.
Dont you get it? you have no grounds to comment on other people, while you run your fam(s) like a scared litle kid trying to put blame (which isnt there) on other fams in an atempt to distract people for seeing you like the insignificant litle boy that you are.
looool @ hugo.
First you lied about that war two days ago. Then when Trotters (and carneglia people) tried to get some revenge for you shooting down a blood of Trotters (and carneglia) you cant handle it very well either. And start to bash on families which had nothing to do with this action. Maraz, Kuro (and even vinci was bashed by you) had nothing to do with last nights action. Trotters and carneglia acted on their own. Only reason that lead to this was your choice to shoot a blood of Trotters, nothing more and you shouldnt try to make more out of it.
You speak about vinci and then say you dont make under the table agreements yourself. Funny, we just saw your alliance shoot a fam who just reached top 30, but i dont see traffi listed as one of your bloods, yet they are in top 10. Same story applies to mero, edge, gambino, leviticus, rochester/loriga. But you dont dare to shoot them, in fact when trotters fired on you, what did you do? pwn them with your dozen fams and 5 gf accounts? no you went to safehouse and called Xzone for help.
Dont you get it? you have no grounds to comment on other people, while you run your fam(s) like a scared litle kid trying to put blame (which isnt there) on other fams in an atempt to distract people for seeing you like the insignificant litle boy that you are.
Anonymous (09:07:40 - 31-10)
looool @ hugo.
First you lied about that war two days ago. Then when Trotters (and carneglia people) tried to get some revenge for you shooting down a blood of Trotters (and carneglia) you cant handle it very well either. And start to bash on families which had nothing to do with this action. Maraz, Kuro (and even vinci was bashed by you) had nothing to do with last nights action. Trotters and carneglia acted on their own. Only reason that lead to this was your choice to shoot a blood of Trotters, nothing more and you shouldnt try to make more out of it.
You speak about vinci and then say you dont make under the table agreements yourself. Funny, we just saw your alliance shoot a fam who just reached top 30, but i dont see traffi listed as one of your bloods, yet they are in top 10. Same story applies to mero, edge, gambino, leviticus, rochester/loriga. But you dont dare to shoot them, in fact when trotters fired on you, what did you do? pwn them with your dozen fams and 5 gf accounts? no you went to safehouse and called Xzone for help.
Dont you get it? you have no grounds to comment on other people, while you run your fam(s) like a scared litle kid trying to put blame (which isnt there) on other fams in an atempt to distract people for seeing you like the insignificant litle boy that you are.
First you lied about that war two days ago. Then when Trotters (and carneglia people) tried to get some revenge for you shooting down a blood of Trotters (and carneglia) you cant handle it very well either. And start to bash on families which had nothing to do with this action. Maraz, Kuro (and even vinci was bashed by you) had nothing to do with last nights action. Trotters and carneglia acted on their own. Only reason that lead to this was your choice to shoot a blood of Trotters, nothing more and you shouldnt try to make more out of it.
You speak about vinci and then say you dont make under the table agreements yourself. Funny, we just saw your alliance shoot a fam who just reached top 30, but i dont see traffi listed as one of your bloods, yet they are in top 10. Same story applies to mero, edge, gambino, leviticus, rochester/loriga. But you dont dare to shoot them, in fact when trotters fired on you, what did you do? pwn them with your dozen fams and 5 gf accounts? no you went to safehouse and called Xzone for help.
Dont you get it? you have no grounds to comment on other people, while you run your fam(s) like a scared litle kid trying to put blame (which isnt there) on other fams in an atempt to distract people for seeing you like the insignificant litle boy that you are.
Anonymous (08:57:17 - 31-10)
Battalgazi at 08:05:28 on 31/10:
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
for your last speech :
" keserin sapi already gotune dondu yegen "
@ hugo ;
you are calling us noobs? so could you please answer the questions which are below?
at the beginning of this version,in which fam you and your friends started to rank up?
(the fam which you had damaged by several akills)
for months, you were 'as one' with a strong fam who had protected you,whats the name of that fam?
at the early days of this version, you had run some objects,and as far as i remember you had those objects without shooting.then who did give those objects to you?which fam?
bro believe being noob is much more better than being a betrayer.you know what i mean...
"gun olur devran doner,hesap doner,sap doner"
huh? what the fuck you sayin?
Ah sorry dude then u dont know the story. But actually, levi and dig can confirm that things for sure. In their secret channel they were speaking shooting against marazzino. But Smul the clever ass showed the way to take marazzino out. In that terms they were too weak to shoot on us directly. So their plan was to shoot one of our weak bloodlinked blood (ofc they did know that if they shoot krays or kurosawa they would be dead), So they shot carneglia with our BLOOD and they were our ASONE at the beginin of version. Dig played great card to take our blood a war against another blood of us. So Maraz could join and they could easily defence and kill us. We did know that for long time. But still we did not believe that aspava would join a war against us. We kept our blood away from ASPAVA's ass, else they would be dead more more earlier. So tell me now dude!!! Tell me if u were in same situation what would you do?