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While everyone was enjoying their peaceful saturday Samagono, Blacksea alliance, Singles, Ihtilal, Rochester/Loriga, Army.ofcrime Xzone alliance, Asfu alliance and the Venture alliance decided it was time to do some killing. They targeted Tempestuoso and the Complexio alliance. The war started quite slow, probably due to the low online amount on the defender side.
Steadily the accounts from the defender side were picked off while the attackers lost very few of their own in the meantime. Even when two bloods of Tempestuoso and Complexio, Andalusia and Purgatory, decided to jump the force couldn't be balanced.
It's to be seen if these countering families will be dragged under together with the other defenders as they still have a solid amount of highranks, but it seems they lost more than they could manage to kill. Though it looks like it is a matter of time before the initial targets will fall.
Steadily the accounts from the defender side were picked off while the attackers lost very few of their own in the meantime. Even when two bloods of Tempestuoso and Complexio, Andalusia and Purgatory, decided to jump the force couldn't be balanced.
It's to be seen if these countering families will be dragged under together with the other defenders as they still have a solid amount of highranks, but it seems they lost more than they could manage to kill. Though it looks like it is a matter of time before the initial targets will fall.
statements
TmX (Top Samagono): We were bored and comple was seen as possible future threat. Temps has been added to the target list because of their past loyalty to their bloods, therefore it was almost 100% clear that they'd had jumped if they could. Thanks for all shooters and RIP Both sides.
Bjack (Top Xzone): Nothing personal, we just wanted to do a strategic move with our bloods and friends. RIP to everyone who died recently in Turkey in the terrorist attacks and in the earthquake.
corniole (Tempestuoso): There is a time of start a family and there is a time of dying, too bad we died this time. Respect how Venture godfather pm'ed me afterwards to have a nice chat, thats how it should be. Way better then some of their members who loved too bash in our public channel. Too thoose members I say: grow up and start realise this is only a game, unfortunaly dying is part of this game and this time it was our turn. Well planned and attacked, too bad we couldnt reach many members by phone this time so I guess its time too update o ur phonelist a bit xDI think we had a good run this round, jumped in for bloods few times, had our own wars and managed too hijack our own hijacked HQ back. RIP too both sides & respect for a nice fight.
/q LL
Bjack (Top Xzone): Nothing personal, we just wanted to do a strategic move with our bloods and friends. RIP to everyone who died recently in Turkey in the terrorist attacks and in the earthquake.
corniole (Tempestuoso): There is a time of start a family and there is a time of dying, too bad we died this time. Respect how Venture godfather pm'ed me afterwards to have a nice chat, thats how it should be. Way better then some of their members who loved too bash in our public channel. Too thoose members I say: grow up and start realise this is only a game, unfortunaly dying is part of this game and this time it was our turn. Well planned and attacked, too bad we couldnt reach many members by phone this time so I guess its time too update o ur phonelist a bit xDI think we had a good run this round, jumped in for bloods few times, had our own wars and managed too hijack our own hijacked HQ back. RIP too both sides & respect for a nice fight.
/q LL
statistics
| War started on: 20:28:02 22-10-2011 | War ended on: 23:03:02 23-10-2011 |
| Bullet difference: -27,182,489 | War duration: 1d 2h 35m |
| Money difference: -$1,990,823,697 | Players died: 203 |
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Anonymous (08:18:06 - 24-10)
anonymous (08:02:09 - 24-10)
So ASFU and Xzone shot ?
A bit strange to me, since no high ranks from both appears in the deathlists the last few days
So you are trying to tell me they helped wiping out 5 family's withoutn even losing 1 highrank ?
A bit strange to me, since no high ranks from both appears in the deathlists the last few days
So you are trying to tell me they helped wiping out 5 family's withoutn even losing 1 highrank ?
Anonymous (06:19:05 - 24-10)
Xzone and Asfu shooted, and also Xzone was the organizer of the war. Good article but some points missing :)
Anonymous (05:36:07 - 24-10)
Xzone shot, hell they were the organizers :')
Anonymous (04:14:59 - 24-10)
Well,
Only Purgatory left now......
Only Purgatory left now......
What (23:23:28 - 23-10)
Klementino you are either a retard or genious.. i'm going with a retard.. you are avoiding the points made by the people you are quoting(those postings made by smul and red show how brainless you are) and answering them on a different perspective..
oh and in a year no one is gonna remember you or your shitty fam.. enjoy the moment ;)
oh and in a year no one is gonna remember you or your shitty fam.. enjoy the moment ;)
Spy at 16:17:36 on 23/10:
Though Redspeert and me have our differences, I think he's perfectly capable and allowed to post his opinion on this site just as you and others are, even though he is an admin/news writer.
He is just as you and me, a person and is thus allowed to express his oppinion, note however that he is not doing so in his articles, or atleast in a way lesser way, but in the discussion between people on this site in the area where discussion is allowed.
klementino at 03:33:29 on 23/10:
And to personally reply on what you had to say.
You may doubt about the fact this site being either professional or not allowing people to tro0ll unlimited and completely anonymously. But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.
News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that. You got collumns for that. And don´t start with saying things like I´m bragging, or thinking too much of myself. I know who I am and where I stand, and I don't mind at all if you post any word about me, or my family.
Thing that is bothering me, except those anonymous people who can be like the sole of your foot being itchy while you wear shoes, is that you are showing the same behaviour as those anonymous heroes, but with the big difference of you showing your name and being admin on this site.
And to personally reply on what you had to say.
You may doubt about the fact this site being either professional or not allowing people to tro0ll unlimited and completely anonymously. But something even more unprofessional is a news writer that clearly shows his meaning in every post he makes.
News should be objectively. Pure facts. It´s about the people you write the newspost about, not about what you think about that. You got collumns for that. And don´t start with saying things like I´m bragging, or thinking too much of myself. I know who I am and where I stand, and I don't mind at all if you post any word about me, or my family.
Thing that is bothering me, except those anonymous people who can be like the sole of your foot being itchy while you wear shoes, is that you are showing the same behaviour as those anonymous heroes, but with the big difference of you showing your name and being admin on this site.
Though Redspeert and me have our differences, I think he's perfectly capable and allowed to post his opinion on this site just as you and others are, even though he is an admin/news writer.
He is just as you and me, a person and is thus allowed to express his oppinion, note however that he is not doing so in his articles, or atleast in a way lesser way, but in the discussion between people on this site in the area where discussion is allowed.
Ofcourse he is allowed to express his meaning, like I mentioned the freedom of speech is one of the most important liberty's we have in this world.
I only simply don't understand why Redspeert is saying those things, as I have no clue who he is(except for OB crew), and don't have any history with him. The only words exchanged between me and him were on this site, both him complaining about stuff I didn't even know(and still questioning) he was aware of.
It's kinda like when you start yelling at someone you barely know(maybe just heard some of him/her) out of nothing.
Let's say that, (in my opinion), you can't develope your own opinion if you don't got the information to form a decent opinion.
If I would say Justin Bieber is the worst artist ever, when I didn't hear his songs myself but simply got told by friends and people who share that opinion(of whom some even didn't hear those songs), how can that ever be a proper opinion? ((got to add Justin Bieber really sucks, but that's irrelevant))
You need to know what you are talking about if you want to form a real opinion.
How do I know those opinions aren't decent formed opinions? Very simple, the majority of the people who say stuff clearly don't even know 50% of the story(mostly with reason because it's none of their business), or copy the opinion from others.
A lot of false information is being stated as true in the comments, and people sometimes are stupid enough to believe it.
Spy at 16:17:36 on 23/10:
You're forgetting that in each war there are also people who fail to kill and people who fail to bf kill.
There are also such things as preshoots.
It's not the number of brugs/highranks you should be looking at but the number of brugs/highranks such a coalition of families can bring online at one given time.
You can have a family of 500 brugs, but if you can only get 3 online at any given time you still can't do anything.
Fact is, offline accounts are (still) stronger then online accounts and thus even though you have around the same amount of people online as the other has, offline, you can not start a war for the simple reason that the ones sleeping, or being offline, are stronger then your onliners. And you need to calculate that some of these players will come online after being shot at (sms). You need more people and thus mostly, more fams to shoot at your oponent.
Ingame family values don't rly say a lot imo, a family can have a really high value but can still not be able to bring people online to actually do anything.
Usualy these are the fams that just sit still all version with a lot of lackey acc's who come online 3 times a day to buy 3k bullets or something, if they do this for long enough, yes they will have more bullets then others who actually shoot, or these are families that shoot 3 targets in wars they know they'll be safe in. But family rank is also based on more then just bullets and lowranks also play a part in it and thus it's unreliable.
As for OB stats, they're a little more helpfull because they grade highranks more then lowranks, but dont count bullets. But they are often flawed due to akills or family name changes and other reasons (nothing I blame you for OB, it's just a fact though). And you cant see who can be brought online at what time in any of these stats.
Yes this 'gangbang' as you call it, is still a 'fact' but I have just explained why this 'gangbang' was not actually that bad and tbh, I think the numbers on this 'gangbang' of yours are not that bad as many gangbangs before this one.
Furthermore 'gangbangs' have been happening for a long time now and I dont see why people feel the need to express their displeasure at them, it happened, feel happy that people thought they couldnt take you down by themselves with just 2 families or whatever amount.
klementino at 02:13:33 on 23/10:
Bullet difference: -25,045,708 (note: bullets have been bought as well ofcourse!)
Players died: 137 (note: not all brug ofcourse!)
Well let´s put these raw numbers into a simple calculation±
25,045,708 bullets over 137 dead players = 25045708/137 = 182,815 bullets per dead player
Let's say all these shoot outs shot 60k and had 60k returend in backfire that means for every kill there are 60k bullets wasted.
Bullet difference: -25,045,708 (note: bullets have been bought as well ofcourse!)
Players died: 137 (note: not all brug ofcourse!)
Well let´s put these raw numbers into a simple calculation±
25,045,708 bullets over 137 dead players = 25045708/137 = 182,815 bullets per dead player
Let's say all these shoot outs shot 60k and had 60k returend in backfire that means for every kill there are 60k bullets wasted.
You're forgetting that in each war there are also people who fail to kill and people who fail to bf kill.
There are also such things as preshoots.
klementino at 02:13:33 on 23/10:
This war looks to be pretty smooth for attackers, and to be honest it is.
Roughly comparing the numbers of highranks of attackers and defenders(without countering family's) it would be about 4 on 1 (attackers had 4 times as many highranks as the defenders)
I don't have 100% proof(except for the total family values which show more than just amount of brugs chiefs etc) this is true, but only thing I can conclude is that the quality(or let's say strenght) is about 2 on 1 (i.e. attackers are twice as strong).
And to be honest, even if you have a million reasons and good stories why this theory I just wrote down would be wrong, the gangbang is still a fact.
This war looks to be pretty smooth for attackers, and to be honest it is.
Roughly comparing the numbers of highranks of attackers and defenders(without countering family's) it would be about 4 on 1 (attackers had 4 times as many highranks as the defenders)
I don't have 100% proof(except for the total family values which show more than just amount of brugs chiefs etc) this is true, but only thing I can conclude is that the quality(or let's say strenght) is about 2 on 1 (i.e. attackers are twice as strong).
And to be honest, even if you have a million reasons and good stories why this theory I just wrote down would be wrong, the gangbang is still a fact.
It's not the number of brugs/highranks you should be looking at but the number of brugs/highranks such a coalition of families can bring online at one given time.
You can have a family of 500 brugs, but if you can only get 3 online at any given time you still can't do anything.
Fact is, offline accounts are (still) stronger then online accounts and thus even though you have around the same amount of people online as the other has, offline, you can not start a war for the simple reason that the ones sleeping, or being offline, are stronger then your onliners. And you need to calculate that some of these players will come online after being shot at (sms). You need more people and thus mostly, more fams to shoot at your oponent.
Ingame family values don't rly say a lot imo, a family can have a really high value but can still not be able to bring people online to actually do anything.
Usualy these are the fams that just sit still all version with a lot of lackey acc's who come online 3 times a day to buy 3k bullets or something, if they do this for long enough, yes they will have more bullets then others who actually shoot, or these are families that shoot 3 targets in wars they know they'll be safe in. But family rank is also based on more then just bullets and lowranks also play a part in it and thus it's unreliable.
As for OB stats, they're a little more helpfull because they grade highranks more then lowranks, but dont count bullets. But they are often flawed due to akills or family name changes and other reasons (nothing I blame you for OB, it's just a fact though). And you cant see who can be brought online at what time in any of these stats.
Yes this 'gangbang' as you call it, is still a 'fact' but I have just explained why this 'gangbang' was not actually that bad and tbh, I think the numbers on this 'gangbang' of yours are not that bad as many gangbangs before this one.
Furthermore 'gangbangs' have been happening for a long time now and I dont see why people feel the need to express their displeasure at them, it happened, feel happy that people thought they couldnt take you down by themselves with just 2 families or whatever amount.
I appreciate the fact you actually have some common sense in your post, and that's why I reply once again.
The problem I'm dealing with on this site, is people either mistunderstand me, don't have their facts right, or for some reason(I don't say there are none, people can have their reasons to do things) dislike me pretty much. Got to admit I made a lot of new friends, but also got some new "enemy's". Things like that happen.
IN this case I think you misunderstood what I tried to explain. Some people seem to think I'm really hating to die, or to see my family die. It actually doesn't at all. That's what I try to point out. I'm not trying to say negative things about the people we have against us, actually I'm making them a compliment. It satisfies our tops(including me) that people saw us as a threat, and gathered this many family's to shoot us. It kinda makes clear the attackers don't really think that bad about us at all, and take us serious.
Every player in omerta with a bit knowledge of how things work here, could say a clash like this wasn't that far away. The only thing that remained unknown was when it would happen, who would be involved and targetting who, and what side would strike first.
We had few people online indeed, and so had our bloods, so that's kind of something that influenced the damage we did back. There was no organisation in the counter. So that;'s a kuddo for the people who planned this.
I also mentioned raw stats, maybe I could better name it bare stats. (kinda the same as both OB ranking and ingame ranking are bare stats, since there are things being left out(such as activity or bullets etc)).
Small facts/observations like this are things I look at right now.
I can only say I had a good time, learned a lot(including I'm totally not capable of ignoring flames, trolls and personal attacks on OB news). I can add that I'm grateful towards my bloods, and that I'm proud that I could be part of this alliance and defenders side.
Ps. People who try to portray me as a selfish, arrogant and brainless attention whore are quitte wrong. I actually do take my time to respond here, though I doubt if people actually appreciate I take some time for that. But hey, I'm just being myself and I don't try to evade discussions and arguements.
Anonymous (21:44:17 - 23-10)
The real heroe's here are the venturians. We can't denie that they are actively involved in most of the big wars this version, and still constantly at the top. I say they are the winners this version.
idi (21:43:13 - 23-10)
i have been at same side in a war with anda (which cogere and righelli died) and i hope it will be the last one. they pussied out and left their bloods to death even they were #1
i have been in different sides in a war this vers;
first they started shooting us and when liberta said stop they stopped and let their bloods to death,
they lived for 7 months and made +50 brug kills, which was almost equal to me and my 2 friend's kills with our one account.
it might be a strategy but tbh i dont like that one, if u wont shoot whats enjoyable about game? maybe writing on OB but dunno...
btw mattyduece o/ its nice to see you around again^^
i have been in different sides in a war this vers;
first they started shooting us and when liberta said stop they stopped and let their bloods to death,
they lived for 7 months and made +50 brug kills, which was almost equal to me and my 2 friend's kills with our one account.
it might be a strategy but tbh i dont like that one, if u wont shoot whats enjoyable about game? maybe writing on OB but dunno...
btw mattyduece o/ its nice to see you around again^^
RIP Temp, we had a nice run, up since the start of the version, one of the longest surviving fams. Thanks to all our bloods who helped us out.
See you all next version o/
See you all next version o/
Anonymous (20:31:21 - 23-10)
lapa at 20:26:35 on 23/10:
who do you think is shooting anda atm?
xzone asfu is finishing anda idiots..
who do you think is shooting anda atm?
xzone asfu is finishing anda idiots..
i lol'ed
lapa (20:26:35 - 23-10)
who do you think is shooting anda atm?
xzone asfu is finishing anda idiots..
xzone asfu is finishing anda idiots..
Anon (20:26:08 - 23-10)
I heard that Xzone shot too. Strange that they are not here
mr.Anonymous (19:29:16 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 18:04:59 on 23/10:
Asusual
Those guys are hardly doing any shooting
Anonymous at 18:02:36 on 23/10:
so xzone is big winner here lol
so xzone is big winner here lol
Asusual
Those guys are hardly doing any shooting
mr.Anonymous (19:28:08 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 18:53:48 on 23/10:
25 brugs and 1 gf down from the attackers
96 brugs, 5 gf, and 5 cd down from defenders
ouch
25 brugs and 1 gf down from the attackers
96 brugs, 5 gf, and 5 cd down from defenders
ouch
Anonymous (18:53:48 - 23-10)
25 brugs and 1 gf down from the attackers
96 brugs, 5 gf, and 5 cd down from defenders
ouch
96 brugs, 5 gf, and 5 cd down from defenders
ouch
Anonymous (18:04:59 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 18:02:36 on 23/10:
so xzone is big winner here lol
so xzone is big winner here lol
Asusual
Those guys are hardly doing any shooting
Anonymous (18:02:36 - 23-10)
so xzone is big winner here lol
Anonymous (18:01:45 - 23-10)
lol @ ppl expecting something from gaybino, all they care is safehouse with their safenhousen don.
So ASFU and Xzone shot ?
A bit strange to me, since no high ranks from both appears in the deathlists the last few days
So you are trying to tell me they helped wiping out 5 family's withoutn even losing 1 highrank ?
Blacksea lost 1 brug
Sama lost 1 GF
Venture lost more because they become target.
So it's not a big suprise that Xzone or Asfu didn't lost any members. They have stronger accounts then those 3 families i have written.