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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
~Pierluigi (15:08:16 - 17-01)
Anonymous at 23:30:02 on 16/01:
Some peeps have been wasting allot of money on dets this evening
Some peeps have been wasting allot of money on dets this evening
Another hot rumour!XD
~Pierluigi (15:07:18 - 17-01)
Redspeert at 14:30:54 on 17/01:
Saros will prolly die in the first war :<
Saros will prolly die in the first war :<
Redspeert (14:35:57 - 17-01)
Saros`away at 14:34:16 on 17/01:
Would be a safe bet yeah :(
Btw, what the hell is your ingame, haven't seen you around at all fagg0t.
Redspeert at 14:30:54 on 17/01:
Saros will prolly die in the first war :<
Saros will prolly die in the first war :<
Would be a safe bet yeah :(
Btw, what the hell is your ingame, haven't seen you around at all fagg0t.
Talk to me on irc xD
Saros`away (14:34:16 - 17-01)
Redspeert at 14:30:54 on 17/01:
Saros will prolly die in the first war :<
Saros will prolly die in the first war :<
Would be a safe bet yeah :(
Btw, what the hell is your ingame, haven't seen you around at all fagg0t.
Saros`away (14:16:54 - 17-01)
FlowzZ at 13:24:00 on 17/01:
Yes but then you sacrifice like 1 (almost 2%) rankprogress perday , in 5 days you are losing 100 positions , in a month you are way behind everyone , enjoy the war then :^
Balthier at 13:11:13 on 17/01:
That's clever from you, yet the irony of using a dc at full capacity (crimes, cars, b\n, bullets and the buster dude) is the worst deal possible for the user.
This is one case where you can say, 'less is more' even if it takes a bit longer, for example not using the crime lackey like you say, will save those credits for the other ones like b\n or cars, so you will win way more cash wich will come a bit later too if compared to using the dc at full capacity. From my calcs using a dc only for b\n is the best deal you can get if time isn't an issue for you, in this way anyone can afford dc's from obay at almost any price with a profitable base.
Saros`away at 02:35:27 on 17/01:
I just quit using crime lackeys today as the obay prices are going skyrcoket.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
zenga at 02:24:23 on 17/01:
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
This is one case where you can say, 'less is more' even if it takes a bit longer, for example not using the crime lackey like you say, will save those credits for the other ones like b\n or cars, so you will win way more cash wich will come a bit later too if compared to using the dc at full capacity. From my calcs using a dc only for b\n is the best deal you can get if time isn't an issue for you, in this way anyone can afford dc's from obay at almost any price with a profitable base.
Yes but then you sacrifice like 1 (almost 2%) rankprogress perday , in 5 days you are losing 100 positions , in a month you are way behind everyone , enjoy the war then :^
I don't plan on living long anyway ;>
Joellin (13:54:09 - 17-01)
You're all missing the most important part. What you seen on your My Account page as rank progress is just for show. It doesn't actually mean anything, your rank points keep on growing at the same rate, the rank progress is just a way that admins depict it. You gain the same amount whatever your 'Rank' is.
Rix (13:34:30 - 17-01)
Damn, Conflict reaching 2000 points, first time as far as I remember (or know) that a family has reached that much and got to our last color at the last family stats.
FlowzZ (13:24:00 - 17-01)
Balthier at 13:11:13 on 17/01:
That's clever from you, yet the irony of using a dc at full capacity (crimes, cars, b\n, bullets and the buster dude) is the worst deal possible for the user.
This is one case where you can say, 'less is more' even if it takes a bit longer, for example not using the crime lackey like you say, will save those credits for the other ones like b\n or cars, so you will win way more cash wich will come a bit later too if compared to using the dc at full capacity. From my calcs using a dc only for b\n is the best deal you can get if time isn't an issue for you, in this way anyone can afford dc's from obay at almost any price with a profitable base.
Saros`away at 02:35:27 on 17/01:
I just quit using crime lackeys today as the obay prices are going skyrcoket.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
zenga at 02:24:23 on 17/01:
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
This is one case where you can say, 'less is more' even if it takes a bit longer, for example not using the crime lackey like you say, will save those credits for the other ones like b\n or cars, so you will win way more cash wich will come a bit later too if compared to using the dc at full capacity. From my calcs using a dc only for b\n is the best deal you can get if time isn't an issue for you, in this way anyone can afford dc's from obay at almost any price with a profitable base.
Yes but then you sacrifice like 1 (almost 2%) rankprogress perday , in 5 days you are losing 100 positions , in a month you are way behind everyone , enjoy the war then :^
Balthier (13:11:13 - 17-01)
Saros`away at 02:35:27 on 17/01:
I just quit using crime lackeys today as the obay prices are going skyrcoket.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
zenga at 02:24:23 on 17/01:
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
This is one case where you can say, 'less is more' even if it takes a bit longer, for example not using the crime lackey like you say, will save those credits for the other ones like b\n or cars, so you will win way more cash wich will come a bit later too if compared to using the dc at full capacity. From my calcs using a dc only for b\n is the best deal you can get if time isn't an issue for you, in this way anyone can afford dc's from obay at almost any price with a profitable base.
Redspeert (13:03:16 - 17-01)
Rix at 12:14:12 on 17/01:
Brug is 0.0036% per rankpoint (aka 1 crime).
Also, it's not rare to get over $2k per successful crime, so a $833 per crime average is doable.
Brug is 0.0036% per rankpoint (aka 1 crime).
Also, it's not rare to get over $2k per successful crime, so a $833 per crime average is doable.
True. I got 10,000 rank points removed in 3.1 and I lost about 35% or so
Rix (12:14:12 - 17-01)
Brug is 0.0036% per rankpoint (aka 1 crime).
Also, it's not rare to get over $2k per successful crime, so a $833 per crime average is doable.
Also, it's not rare to get over $2k per successful crime, so a $833 per crime average is doable.
sbanks (07:58:35 - 17-01)
Deston at 07:05:30 on 17/01:
Crimes every 90 seconds? Nice cool down for your theoretical maximum there.
ps. I'd say 1 crime equals about 0.0035% at bruglione.
Crimes every 90 seconds? Nice cool down for your theoretical maximum there.
ps. I'd say 1 crime equals about 0.0035% at bruglione.
lackey crime is every 2min(120 secs) ++
Deston (07:05:30 - 17-01)
Crimes every 90 seconds? Nice cool down for your theoretical maximum there.
ps. I'd say 1 crime equals about 0.0035% at bruglione.
ps. I'd say 1 crime equals about 0.0035% at bruglione.
zenga (05:59:04 - 17-01)
seems my numbers are off, you get 5k credits per dc instead of the 6k i assume, so the deal is worse
zenga (05:55:03 - 17-01)
Yeah it's apparently 2 crimes per 0,01% rp, meaning that 1 dc can get you 30% rank progress from crimes alone. I don't know when diminishing returns kick in (when you get tired), but the theoretical maximum (if crimes are sill 90s) is 1080 crimes a day. My account is 1 month old and has about 20k crimes, but has had a day or 2 where it wasn't running, so I end up with about 600-700 crimes a day. In other words: for me it would mean that I lose about 30% rankprogress each 10 days if I turn crimes off, or 100% brug over the course of a month. 100% brug RP at the cost of 15-18m $ / month seems like a pretty fair deal to me.
kajo (02:50:04 - 17-01)
Saros`away at 02:35:27 on 17/01:
I just quit using crime lackeys today as the obay prices are going skyrcoket.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
zenga at 02:24:23 on 17/01:
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
else if we are talking about worth for rankprogress, you gotta put that lackeys on or do it by manual as possible. the logic is tired account doesnt mean anything to your rankprogress these days, since you can hire b/n lackeys when you get tired.
Saros`away (02:35:27 - 17-01)
zenga at 02:24:23 on 17/01:
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
IMO the rankpoints aren't worth it, not even mentioning the 'cash' you get from it.
(Not based on any calculations whatsoever)
zenga (02:24:23 - 17-01)
Has anyone worked out some math to see if turning the crimes on while using lackeys is worth it as brug?
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
I don't know the current amount of rankprogress you get per crime, but back in the day it was a rather minor % if you'd go from 0% brug to 100% brug. Also moneywise it seems to be on par at best i.e. amount of money you gain per crime relative to the amount of cost per crime (current obay price for a dc / 6000). Example: if you get 6k credits from a donation code, and a donation code costs 5m, each crime needs to net you 833 gold to be break even. Seems quite high and not really worth it to me, definitely when you don't get a lot of RP from crimes.
Damn, Conflict reaching 2000 points, first time as far as I remember (or know) that a family has reached that much and got to our last color at the last family stats.
thats mean they need to go down soon!