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gode Turkey (20:55:10 - 10-12)
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Ber at 20:25:52 on 10/12:
Anonymous at 19:40:49 on 10/12:
Anonymous at 07:57:24 on 10/12:
Ber at 07:17:02 on 10/12:
They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...

That's your fault for being a Gambino member!!! Join a real family and shoot with your bloods in wars and you don't need to worry about the SMS Feature!!!

ROFL --- I'm funny!


as a gambino he won a version and a star for being the don. what did you achieved?
Ty mr or mrs anoymous _o_

that happened after i suicided on 3 better accounts ^^

ber o/
Ber (20:25:52 - 10-12)
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Anonymous at 19:40:49 on 10/12:
Anonymous at 07:57:24 on 10/12:
Ber at 07:17:02 on 10/12:
They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...

That's your fault for being a Gambino member!!! Join a real family and shoot with your bloods in wars and you don't need to worry about the SMS Feature!!!

ROFL --- I'm funny!


as a gambino he won a version and a star for being the don. what did you achieved?
Ty mr or mrs anoymous _o_
Anonymous (19:53:03 - 10-12)
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Solstice at 19:36:29 on 10/12:
Anonymous at 19:26:23 on 10/12:
just one question to the allmighty ADMINS AND CREW!!!!


WHOOOOOOOOOS DECISION IS IT TO RESET THIS GAME FRIDAY 12ot?
really logical decision :) but you guys are right :) 90% of the community is jobless...

It's not like it's the first time it's been reset on a friday at that time.


yeah... and? thats why i write it every reset again and again :)
why not FR 20:00? just call me why not :) why 12ot?
Anonymous (19:40:49 - 10-12)
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Anonymous at 07:57:24 on 10/12:
Ber at 07:17:02 on 10/12:
They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...

That's your fault for being a Gambino member!!! Join a real family and shoot with your bloods in wars and you don't need to worry about the SMS Feature!!!

ROFL --- I'm funny!


as a gambino he won a version and a star for being the don. what did you achieved?
Solstice (19:36:29 - 10-12)
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Anonymous at 19:26:23 on 10/12:
just one question to the allmighty ADMINS AND CREW!!!!


WHOOOOOOOOOS DECISION IS IT TO RESET THIS GAME FRIDAY 12ot?
really logical decision :) but you guys are right :) 90% of the community is jobless...

It's not like it's the first time it's been reset on a friday at that time.
Anonymous (19:26:23 - 10-12)
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just one question to the allmighty ADMINS AND CREW!!!!


WHOOOOOOOOOS DECISION IS IT TO RESET THIS GAME FRIDAY 12ot?
really logical decision :) but you guys are right :) 90% of the community is jobless...
Nakketikker Cameroon (18:46:22 - 10-12)
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Ber at 09:04:52 on 10/12:
Anonymous at 07:57:24 on 10/12:
Ber at 07:17:02 on 10/12:
They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...

That's your fault for being a Gambino member!!! Join a real family and shoot with your bloods in wars and you don't need to worry about the SMS Feature!!!

ROFL --- I'm funny!

Retard alert wiieeeeeuuuwww :w

He was right, join the anonymous fam, waaay better
darklazytologin (17:24:46 - 10-12)
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Merton at 18:36:14 on 09/12:
We as players have a crucial point in all of this. Do we continue to all flood to the bigger families and allow them to mass blood ? Or do we join the smaller families and make the game fun again?Joining a family of 150 members who are as 1 with 2 other families who are blooded to another 3 families makes no sense! how are you heard? do you have any say? We all want change we all want mass blooding to stop, but many of us still follow the same we trodden path. I see the same comments "account huggers" If you join a large pact family, you are infact the account hugger ffs. Ah fuck it why am I bothering, see you in 4 weeks to go over all this crap again.


Merton join us instead of speaking here hup hup
TriXsteR' (15:29:52 - 10-12)
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Anonymous at 00:15:15 on 10/12:
KCode at 15:18:37 on 09/12:
Anonymous at 15:09:21 on 09/12:
Not sure if you pulled a Brando (ignored the point that was made on purpose to rant on a bit), or if it was unintentional.

I said the rerank feature looks like a nice idea, but it's not fixing the bigger underlying problem. The overblooding. Which is making the point of reranking a bit moot. Because only if everybody will bother to rank up again after the first war you get to do a replay (and that's a big if). And it is not even a replay because the surviving side has quite bit of a headstart. But that's probably what you meant with you gotta try harder. That's life. But I find it very nice and Brandoesque how you set up the straw man, "I lost a war, thus there's no need to rerank in general." Which was totaly not what I said. What I said was: "there's no point in reranking against the odds with this massive overblooding happening ingame."

The hillarious part is, that was not even a dig at you or your feature, but at the tops running the game this way for years. And I don't think that is easily fixable from the outside.


It wasn't avoided, I said that we are working on a feature to fix this situation, what I meant in the whole post is that 1 change won't fix it, both are needed AT SAME TIME.

One to make you believe that there's a chance after 1st death, another to make sure your first war was balanced and allowed you to damage back without a 10:1 ratio.

(Rebirth + War system) should even be seen as 1 feature, 50% of it is on DM already, the other 50% will take some extra weeks.

So you guys do plan to implement a war system for v5 then? That's good to hear. I haven't played in a long time now, but I would come back to try out v5 if it had a war system.

+1
Solstice (11:40:25 - 10-12)
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Anonymous at 13:55:35 on 09/12:
New rebirth system could be fun but just a question.

Who says the pact allows you to rerank your fam to bruglione and don't attack your reranks when all are only chief?

Masspacting fams will just take more bloods to make sure they also survive the rerank fams. To think the rebirth system will solve the masspacting boring versions is way too naïve.

Bestias was dominating DM with massive numbers but in the end died quite easily at the hands of a number of rebirths. Anyways, as KCode says, he's working on something to fix pacting. If that works out as planned the game should be balanced again. The rebirth system i can tell from experience is great. I died a page 2 ranker and on my rebirth ranked even harder and got to 1st page, without people massively dieing. I hope the warsystem fix is just as good.
Ber (09:04:52 - 10-12)
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Anonymous at 07:57:24 on 10/12:
Ber at 07:17:02 on 10/12:
They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...

That's your fault for being a Gambino member!!! Join a real family and shoot with your bloods in wars and you don't need to worry about the SMS Feature!!!

ROFL --- I'm funny!

Retard alert wiieeeeeuuuwww :w
Anonymous (07:57:24 - 10-12)
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Ber at 07:17:02 on 10/12:
They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...

That's your fault for being a Gambino member!!! Join a real family and shoot with your bloods in wars and you don't need to worry about the SMS Feature!!!

ROFL --- I'm funny!

Ber (07:17:02 - 10-12)
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They better fix the sms system.

Last night got shot 2x received the second sms.

During wars 75% no sms received this version, same as last versions.

And if u go to #help no1 is there or they cant help u...
Anonymous (00:15:15 - 10-12)
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KCode at 15:18:37 on 09/12:
Anonymous at 15:09:21 on 09/12:
Not sure if you pulled a Brando (ignored the point that was made on purpose to rant on a bit), or if it was unintentional.

I said the rerank feature looks like a nice idea, but it's not fixing the bigger underlying problem. The overblooding. Which is making the point of reranking a bit moot. Because only if everybody will bother to rank up again after the first war you get to do a replay (and that's a big if). And it is not even a replay because the surviving side has quite bit of a headstart. But that's probably what you meant with you gotta try harder. That's life. But I find it very nice and Brandoesque how you set up the straw man, "I lost a war, thus there's no need to rerank in general." Which was totaly not what I said. What I said was: "there's no point in reranking against the odds with this massive overblooding happening ingame."

The hillarious part is, that was not even a dig at you or your feature, but at the tops running the game this way for years. And I don't think that is easily fixable from the outside.


It wasn't avoided, I said that we are working on a feature to fix this situation, what I meant in the whole post is that 1 change won't fix it, both are needed AT SAME TIME.

One to make you believe that there's a chance after 1st death, another to make sure your first war was balanced and allowed you to damage back without a 10:1 ratio.

(Rebirth + War system) should even be seen as 1 feature, 50% of it is on DM already, the other 50% will take some extra weeks.

So you guys do plan to implement a war system for v5 then? That's good to hear. I haven't played in a long time now, but I would come back to try out v5 if it had a war system.
MurderInc Austria (19:38:57 - 09-12)
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Fruitbat at 18:15:56 on 09/12:
MurderInc at 17:12:30 on 09/12:
Fruitbat at 16:51:35 on 09/12:
@ K-Code .

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It wasn't avoided, I said that we are working on a feature to fix this situation, what I meant in the whole post is that 1 change won't fix it, both are needed AT SAME TIME.

One to make you believe that there's a chance after 1st death, another to make sure your first war was balanced and allowed you to damage back without a 10:1 ratio.

(Rebirth + War system) should even be seen as 1 feature, 50% of it is on DM already, the other 50% will take some extra weeks.

Do you really believe that making ass+ accounts HARDER TO KILL , is likely to encourage re-ranking and extended gameplay ?
This change is specifically targeted at the suicides that happen between LC and Chief. When we're talking about re-ranking, we're hopefully talking about ranking back to brug, and not some useless lowrank suicide which definitely won't have any effect on the gameplay. So since it's gonna affect both sides, I don't see how it's relevant.

(Also, I don't think anything changed for brug and above - that seemed balanced already, it's probably just for LC + Chief)

You seem to think that suicides are a bad thing - not necesarily so - as a delaying tactic on fams going up or as a way of deliberately weakening a fam - they seem to be usefull .

Yes, when i say re-reanking I mean to be aiming for brug as well - but as long as the multi fam pacts are in place - another condition , albeit later in the game , where a few judicially placed suicides wouldn't go amis , making surviving accounts even harder to kill from the re-ranked accounts doesnt seem to me to help . That was my point . Even hijacking after re-ranking is also going to be harder . As there is no way re-ranking is going to allow anybody to put up a "new" fam against the pact , as they can/could and assuredly would play "wack-a-mole" with anybody foolish enough to try .

While i realise that there is nothing much admins can do to change this and it will need a change in the majority game play/mindset to achieve , rule changes like this one arent helping .
You're talking about re-ranking, which has nothing to do with suicides targeted at families early in the game. I think you highly overestimate the effect a LC/Chief suiciding on another LC/Chief has on the outcome or duration of a version (like I said, I doubt brug and above was touched). Even more so, the change goes both ways - so I could just as well argue rebirths are better of now that they can't get killed as easily at LC or Chief. This particular change has hardly any effect on rebirths or version length. All it does is make LC + Chief shooting more balanced, which means suiciders either need to put in some effort or have backup.
Merton Ireland (18:36:14 - 09-12)
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We as players have a crucial point in all of this. Do we continue to all flood to the bigger families and allow them to mass blood ? Or do we join the smaller families and make the game fun again?Joining a family of 150 members who are as 1 with 2 other families who are blooded to another 3 families makes no sense! how are you heard? do you have any say? We all want change we all want mass blooding to stop, but many of us still follow the same we trodden path. I see the same comments "account huggers" If you join a large pact family, you are infact the account hugger ffs. Ah fuck it why am I bothering, see you in 4 weeks to go over all this crap again.
Fruitbat (18:15:56 - 09-12)
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MurderInc at 17:12:30 on 09/12:
Fruitbat at 16:51:35 on 09/12:
@ K-Code .

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It wasn't avoided, I said that we are working on a feature to fix this situation, what I meant in the whole post is that 1 change won't fix it, both are needed AT SAME TIME.

One to make you believe that there's a chance after 1st death, another to make sure your first war was balanced and allowed you to damage back without a 10:1 ratio.

(Rebirth + War system) should even be seen as 1 feature, 50% of it is on DM already, the other 50% will take some extra weeks.

Do you really believe that making ass+ accounts HARDER TO KILL , is likely to encourage re-ranking and extended gameplay ?
This change is specifically targeted at the suicides that happen between LC and Chief. When we're talking about re-ranking, we're hopefully talking about ranking back to brug, and not some useless lowrank suicide which definitely won't have any effect on the gameplay. So since it's gonna affect both sides, I don't see how it's relevant.

(Also, I don't think anything changed for brug and above - that seemed balanced already, it's probably just for LC + Chief)

You seem to think that suicides are a bad thing - not necesarily so - as a delaying tactic on fams going up or as a way of deliberately weakening a fam - they seem to be usefull .

Yes, when i say re-reanking I mean to be aiming for brug as well - but as long as the multi fam pacts are in place - another condition , albeit later in the game , where a few judicially placed suicides wouldn't go amis , making surviving accounts even harder to kill from the re-ranked accounts doesnt seem to me to help . That was my point . Even hijacking after re-ranking is also going to be harder . As there is no way re-ranking is going to allow anybody to put up a "new" fam against the pact , as they can/could and assuredly would play "wack-a-mole" with anybody foolish enough to try .

While i realise that there is nothing much admins can do to change this and it will need a change in the majority game play/mindset to achieve , rule changes like this one arent helping .
MurderInc Austria (17:12:30 - 09-12)
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Fruitbat at 16:51:35 on 09/12:
@ K-Code .

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It wasn't avoided, I said that we are working on a feature to fix this situation, what I meant in the whole post is that 1 change won't fix it, both are needed AT SAME TIME.

One to make you believe that there's a chance after 1st death, another to make sure your first war was balanced and allowed you to damage back without a 10:1 ratio.

(Rebirth + War system) should even be seen as 1 feature, 50% of it is on DM already, the other 50% will take some extra weeks.

Do you really believe that making ass+ accounts HARDER TO KILL , is likely to encourage re-ranking and extended gameplay ?
This change is specifically targeted at the suicides that happen between LC and Chief. When we're talking about re-ranking, we're hopefully talking about ranking back to brug, and not some useless lowrank suicide which definitely won't have any effect on the gameplay. So since it's gonna affect both sides, I don't see how it's relevant.

(Also, I don't think anything changed for brug and above - that seemed balanced already, it's probably just for LC + Chief)
Fruitbat (16:51:35 - 09-12)
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@ K-Code .

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It wasn't avoided, I said that we are working on a feature to fix this situation, what I meant in the whole post is that 1 change won't fix it, both are needed AT SAME TIME.

One to make you believe that there's a chance after 1st death, another to make sure your first war was balanced and allowed you to damage back without a 10:1 ratio.

(Rebirth + War system) should even be seen as 1 feature, 50% of it is on DM already, the other 50% will take some extra weeks.

Do you really believe that making ass+ accounts HARDER TO KILL , is likely to encourage re-ranking and extended gameplay ?
dead_man Serbia (16:12:31 - 09-12)
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ppl still play this?