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Anonymous (00:06:31 - 08-06)
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MurderInc at 00:04:15 on 08/06:
Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).

No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?

It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
TACTIC...you can always change tactic...dont take bf from start,dont make strong acc before brug,and you are safe ...
MurderInc Austria (00:04:15 - 08-06)
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Anonymous at 23:41:56 on 07/06:
Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
When you are Brug+, the KA has been balanced so that accounts that are active and invest a lot of time are stronger and can easily survive accounts that are weak. Introducing a bullet limit for lower rank shooting should bring the same effect to all ranks: Strong accounts could still get kills, while weak accounts would fail. The point is not to make low rank kills impossible, but to make them just as hard as Brug+ kills (i.e. meaning it might take 2-3 shots or more to kill a top account).

No one was blaming suiciders or saying it's not a tactical move: of course it is. There's nothing smart about it, everyone can do it (and pretty soon everyone will). The game mechanics shouldn't allow someone who invests a couple of hours into his account to kill someone who ranked hard, busted, etc. - unless he gets past that arbitrary point of being Brug. "It has always been that way" is not an argument, and neither is "THIS IS MAFIA GAME", which some people love to bring up with no context whatsoever. With your line of thinking, we could just as well introduce a completely random KA. Why would anyone want to play a game like that?

It's a moot point you're trying to make anyway, the game development has already identified the problem and implemented a solution, it's just a matter of getting this change into .com as soon as humanly possible.
Anonymous (23:41:56 - 07-06)
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Brabmle is right this time.
Your point of game is,buy 200 dc,make milion bo,join first page,up fam with bf, and thats it ?
We cant blame suiciders ,alot of them is tactical kill,ofc your enemy want make you weak,its their right,you can do same...
What is different kill on lc or on brug? its same... If you want milion dc as you did,ofc your acc have adventige on brug-cd,but your acc have no adventige on lc,so this is tactical killl,smart fam make that...
If you are smart,you will listen Bramble and change your tactic...You cant just pay and enjoy...
THIS IS MAFIA GAME !!!
Anonymous (23:07:45 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 18:11:33 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 18:09:24 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 18:07:38 on 07/06:
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.


Target its "Hell". Send him to his place pls.
Hired.



omg thast true !
MurderInc Austria (22:55:07 - 07-06)
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H`HMD at 21:51:49 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 21:21:46 on 07/06:
Fenrir at 21:15:10 on 07/06:
These suicides is the lowest actions i have experienced in a long time. Its cowardly and pathetic. Admins should consider the possibility of reviving all these top accounts and implent the .dm changes onto .com aswell immediately. The suicides is exploits of a weakness in the gamesystem. 5% online time, inactive lackey accounts shouldnt be able to kill dedicated top accounts as easy as this.

If Omerta wants to keep this dying playerbase for a tiny bit longer they should react asap to this. If they dont take care of their most dedicated players they will surely lose them sooner or later.
I agree, but it's too late. I'm done after this version. So are my friends.

Right now i'm beyond the point where I intend to find out who suicided on my 3 highest rankers (Colossal, fyi) and seek revenge. It's been happening to us in every single version we have been up so far, but this version it seems like every family is being targeted and it's utterly ridiculous.

More than the actual suiciders, I believe that the crew is responsible for all this because they allow it. If you want to weaken an enemy, you give a dc or two to an inactive player and have him suicide at them. It's legal because their policy is to only revive accounts killed by cheaters, which they're not. Meanwhile the active players, mostly top 20 overall on page 1 accounts, the ones keeping the company running with their significant DC investments are being punished by this glitch.

What also bothers me is the crew's feedback system. Since the resets are usually on thursday/friday families will go up in the weekend of the following week. If your top ranker gets suicided on, not only will you lose the account itself but also the money invested in the don spot, which is a major setback. But since the crew doesn't give a fuck about their company during the weekend, and a valuable 'customer' will get some kind of automated response to their e-mail and a denied request for a revive on monday. By then the advantage that comes with having one or more first page rankers will be long gone.

Worst of all is that a solution to all of the above already exists; a bullet limit. It's implemented in Omerta v5 that is currently already live on both .dm and .tr. God knows why the 2 biggest versions, nl/com, aren't updated to this new version yet. Probably comes with these 2 versions being managed by a different crew member.

So yea.. long story short I think the crew needs to change their attitude towards their players and customers, the few that's left keeping their company up and running. But after all these years, I should know better than that.
Unfortunately, "nothing" is exactly the reaction you can expect from .com management. Here is what she has to say about a #1 account getting killed by some 3% ontime #1000 account:

<Bramble> en waarom dan niet eens zien of je hetzelfde kan doen? een keer niet besluiten om als eerste op te gaan maar en masse suiciden op hun accounts?
"why don't you check if you can do the same thing? decide not to go up first for a change and do a mass suicide on their accounts instead?"

Apart from being completely retarded in terms of game mechanics, this is also terribly bad for Omerta from a business point of view, as there are numerous players who have either given up on hardcore ranking or retired completely as a result. We're usually talking about tops of big families who fall victim to suicides, so quite often there's a big network effect in terms of retirements as well.

As long as suicides are such an effective weapon against your enemies top accounts, the situation can realistically only get worse. To be honest, It's quite amazing something like this version isn't the status quo already. In a game that is essentially a race to the bottom (see: blood lists, exploits), and where trying to change this game for the better tends to simply get you killed (see: various attempts of both small and big families at taking only a small number of bloods and then getting gangbanged anyway), that's really no good news for Omerta.

This is coming from someone who has lost something like five first-page accounts to suicides in the last year or so, and whose family has lost their three highest rankers this version.

// edit: yes yes, I know, hypocrite, saving you the trouble of pointing that out.

By the way, for those not keeping track of .dm, this is the bullet limit that's been mentioned:
Limit of bullets to shoot

Since the beginning of Omerta there has been the limit of shooting a maximum amount of bullets (60,000) regardless of rank. From now the maximum amount of bullets that can be fired is defined by your rank.

Rank Bullets to shoot
Empty Suit: 0
Delivery Boy/Girl: 1,000
Picciotto: 1,500
Shoplifter : 2,250
Pickpocket: 3,500
Thief: 5,000
Associate :6,500
Mobster: 8,000
Soldier: 10,000
Swindler: 11,000
Assassin: 12,000
Local Chief: 15,000
Chief: 40,000
Bruglione: 60,000
Capodecina: 60,000
Godfather/First Lady: 60,000
Anonymous (22:24:52 - 07-06)
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It is absolutley ridiculous with these suiciding faggots.

all people that spend endless hours on here and buy DC with there own real life money just to get killed and loose everything they have over a suicider weakening people is a joke. admins need to do something or they will loose players.
H`HMD Russian Federation (21:51:49 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 21:21:46 on 07/06:
Fenrir at 21:15:10 on 07/06:
These suicides is the lowest actions i have experienced in a long time. Its cowardly and pathetic. Admins should consider the possibility of reviving all these top accounts and implent the .dm changes onto .com aswell immediately. The suicides is exploits of a weakness in the gamesystem. 5% online time, inactive lackey accounts shouldnt be able to kill dedicated top accounts as easy as this.

If Omerta wants to keep this dying playerbase for a tiny bit longer they should react asap to this. If they dont take care of their most dedicated players they will surely lose them sooner or later.
I agree, but it's too late. I'm done after this version. So are my friends.

Right now i'm beyond the point where I intend to find out who suicided on my 3 highest rankers (Colossal, fyi) and seek revenge. It's been happening to us in every single version we have been up so far, but this version it seems like every family is being targeted and it's utterly ridiculous.

More than the actual suiciders, I believe that the crew is responsible for all this because they allow it. If you want to weaken an enemy, you give a dc or two to an inactive player and have him suicide at them. It's legal because their policy is to only revive accounts killed by cheaters, which they're not. Meanwhile the active players, mostly top 20 overall on page 1 accounts, the ones keeping the company running with their significant DC investments are being punished by this glitch.

What also bothers me is the crew's feedback system. Since the resets are usually on thursday/friday families will go up in the weekend of the following week. If your top ranker gets suicided on, not only will you lose the account itself but also the money invested in the don spot, which is a major setback. But since the crew doesn't give a fuck about their company during the weekend, and a valuable 'customer' will get some kind of automated response to their e-mail and a denied request for a revive on monday. By then the advantage that comes with having one or more first page rankers will be long gone.

Worst of all is that a solution to all of the above already exists; a bullet limit. It's implemented in Omerta v5 that is currently already live on both .dm and .tr. God knows why the 2 biggest versions, nl/com, aren't updated to this new version yet. Probably comes with these 2 versions being managed by a different crew member.

So yea.. long story short I think the crew needs to change their attitude towards their players and customers, the few that's left keeping their company up and running. But after all these years, I should know better than that.
Anonymous (21:21:46 - 07-06)
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Fenrir at 21:15:10 on 07/06:
These suicides is the lowest actions i have experienced in a long time. Its cowardly and pathetic. Admins should consider the possibility of reviving all these top accounts and implent the .dm changes onto .com aswell immediately. The suicides is exploits of a weakness in the gamesystem. 5% online time, inactive lackey accounts shouldnt be able to kill dedicated top accounts as easy as this.

If Omerta wants to keep this dying playerbase for a tiny bit longer they should react asap to this. If they dont take care of their most dedicated players they will surely lose them sooner or later.
I agree, but it's too late. I'm done after this version. So are my friends.
Fenrir Norway (21:15:10 - 07-06)
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These suicides is the lowest actions i have experienced in a long time. Its cowardly and pathetic. Admins should consider the possibility of reviving all these top accounts and implent the .dm changes onto .com aswell immediately. The suicides is exploits of a weakness in the gamesystem. 5% online time, inactive lackey accounts shouldnt be able to kill dedicated top accounts as easy as this.

If Omerta wants to keep this dying playerbase for a tiny bit longer they should react asap to this. If they dont take care of their most dedicated players they will surely lose them sooner or later.
Anonymous (21:02:41 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 18:06:41 on 07/06:
all people's want to siberia vs colossal war
and doing a lot of suicides

i think vizzini do them
I think you don't have brains. So explain us why you think this?
sure let me suck my own dick (20:56:47 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 20:55:54 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 18:07:38 on 07/06:
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.

New target "Insane" go go go :D

lmao xD he actually did it lol
Anonymous (20:55:54 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 18:07:38 on 07/06:
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.

New target "Insane" go go go :D
Critycal Korea, Democratic People's Republic of Patron (19:37:08 - 07-06)
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hi
Anonymous (18:11:33 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 18:09:24 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 18:07:38 on 07/06:
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.


Target its "Hell". Send him to his place pls.
Hired.
Anonymous (18:09:24 - 07-06)
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Anonymous at 18:07:38 on 07/06:
I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.


Target its "Hell". Send him to his place pls.
Anonymous (18:07:38 - 07-06)
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I want to suicide. Give me a target pls.
Anonymous (18:06:41 - 07-06)
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all people's want to siberia vs colossal war
and doing a lot of suicides

i think vizzini do them
Anonymous (17:34:42 - 07-06)
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Link at 17:30:46 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 17:22:26 on 07/06:
Ragnarok 07-06-2015 15:31:44 Local Chief Colossal
Vertigo 07-06-2015 15:31:44 Assassin Cifuentes


I did heist with that guy Vertigo. He had Siberia on his profile
Sure we did :'), if we would participate in lame suicides w/e we would at least try to hide it instead of putting Siberia on the profile


You already did ;)


He have only Joe2 now on his profile, thats why i mention that here to let people know what kind of fam you are. wankers!
Link Netherlands (17:33:54 - 07-06)
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Solstice at 17:32:37 on 07/06:
Link at 17:30:46 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 17:22:26 on 07/06:
Ragnarok 07-06-2015 15:31:44 Local Chief Colossal
Vertigo 07-06-2015 15:31:44 Assassin Cifuentes


I did heist with that guy Vertigo. He had Siberia on his profile
Sure we did :'), if we would participate in lame suicides w/e we would at least try to hide it instead of putting Siberia on the profile

I heard it was Johnx' sister suiciding, can you confirm that?
Solstice buddy, i can confirm alot about Johnx's sister, and nope that was it, nothing more to say about her
Johnx Denmark (17:33:12 - 07-06)
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Solstice at 17:32:37 on 07/06:
Link at 17:30:46 on 07/06:
Anonymous at 17:22:26 on 07/06:
Ragnarok 07-06-2015 15:31:44 Local Chief Colossal
Vertigo 07-06-2015 15:31:44 Assassin Cifuentes


I did heist with that guy Vertigo. He had Siberia on his profile
Sure we did :'), if we would participate in lame suicides w/e we would at least try to hide it instead of putting Siberia on the profile

I heard it was Johnx' sister suiciding, can you confirm that?
I only have two brothers, and they don't even play :(