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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (23:06:49 - 26-02)
Anonymous (22:59:41 - 26-02)
Novu at 22:17:50 on 26/02:
Fully aware of this. But while this is just a theoretic game you're also not allowed to have a Hitler-themed family. While it's not illegal to have a Sinaloa-themed family, I just think Sinaloa is much too grim to name yourself after. Other mafias and criminal gangs usually try to keep a low profile and generally only hurt those who get in the way of business. The Italian mafia has a certain code of honour. Sinaloa is a different breed. Sinaloa and other Mexican cartels are pretty much waging a civil war with lots of collateral damage, so I think there's a significant difference.
I didn't think my point of view would be popular, but I stand by it, so no, I'm not going to rethink.
Anonymous at 22:03:23 on 26/02:
You are aware this is theoretically a Mafia themed RPG?
You are aware that Carlo Gambino and fis successors like Castellano were not particularly charitable figures, too?
Disregard of human life is the very essence of organised crime.
You might want to rethink before opening your mouth.
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
You are aware this is theoretically a Mafia themed RPG?
You are aware that Carlo Gambino and fis successors like Castellano were not particularly charitable figures, too?
Disregard of human life is the very essence of organised crime.
You might want to rethink before opening your mouth.
Fully aware of this. But while this is just a theoretic game you're also not allowed to have a Hitler-themed family. While it's not illegal to have a Sinaloa-themed family, I just think Sinaloa is much too grim to name yourself after. Other mafias and criminal gangs usually try to keep a low profile and generally only hurt those who get in the way of business. The Italian mafia has a certain code of honour. Sinaloa is a different breed. Sinaloa and other Mexican cartels are pretty much waging a civil war with lots of collateral damage, so I think there's a significant difference.
I didn't think my point of view would be popular, but I stand by it, so no, I'm not going to rethink.
Yes, human trafficking, drug deals, or dumping highly toxic waste near some populated towns, just harming people who get into their way.
You clearly have a very romantic idea of the italian mafia.
If you want to follow your Hitler obsession, look for a WWII based RPG.
Novu (22:46:41 - 26-02)
bANJO at 22:29:06 on 26/02:
im in the family andoria. If you google that its a blue planet with blue ppl from Star Trek....
Its just a name...
I have no opinions, or desire to be a blue person....
Novu at 22:25:24 on 26/02:
Names represent opinions, actions etc. I could give you a list of war criminals and tell you it's just names, but they still represent something. Again the nazi example is great, cause of it's notoriety. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Mengele, the Schutzstaffel aka. SS etc. These are just names? Can you think of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Mauthausen, Sibibor, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme, Buchenwald, Dachau without negative connotations? I personally can't.
bANJO at 22:06:46 on 26/02:
its just a name...
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
its just a name...
Names represent opinions, actions etc. I could give you a list of war criminals and tell you it's just names, but they still represent something. Again the nazi example is great, cause of it's notoriety. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Mengele, the Schutzstaffel aka. SS etc. These are just names? Can you think of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Mauthausen, Sibibor, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme, Buchenwald, Dachau without negative connotations? I personally can't.
im in the family andoria. If you google that its a blue planet with blue ppl from Star Trek....
Its just a name...
I have no opinions, or desire to be a blue person....
Those blue people are fictional. Sinaloa is not. They abduct people to behead them, dismember them, publicly hang them, put them in acid baths, burn them alive where they use diesel fuel, cause it burns slower. They don't just kill people, they torture them. A brutality much worse than you can imagine.
Anonymous (22:40:20 - 26-02)
so if im correct top 6 fams atm are friendss?
Novu at 22:25:24 on 26/02:
Names represent opinions, actions etc. I could give you a list of war criminals and tell you it's just names, but they still represent something. Again the nazi example is great, cause of it's notoriety. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Mengele, the Schutzstaffel aka. SS etc. These are just names? Can you think of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Mauthausen, Sibibor, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme, Buchenwald, Dachau without negative connotations? I personally can't.
bANJO at 22:06:46 on 26/02:
its just a name...
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
its just a name...
Names represent opinions, actions etc. I could give you a list of war criminals and tell you it's just names, but they still represent something. Again the nazi example is great, cause of it's notoriety. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Mengele, the Schutzstaffel aka. SS etc. These are just names? Can you think of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Mauthausen, Sibibor, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme, Buchenwald, Dachau without negative connotations? I personally can't.
im in the family andoria. If you google that its a blue planet with blue ppl from Star Trek....
Its just a name...
I have no opinions, or desire to be a blue person....
Novu (22:25:24 - 26-02)
bANJO at 22:06:46 on 26/02:
its just a name...
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
its just a name...
Names represent opinions, actions etc. I could give you a list of war criminals and tell you it's just names, but they still represent something. Again the nazi example is great, cause of it's notoriety. Adolf Hitler, Heinrich Himmler, Josef Mengele, the Schutzstaffel aka. SS etc. These are just names? Can you think of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Mauthausen, Sibibor, Bergen-Belsen, Neuengamme, Buchenwald, Dachau without negative connotations? I personally can't.
Novu (22:17:50 - 26-02)
Anonymous at 22:03:23 on 26/02:
You are aware this is theoretically a Mafia themed RPG?
You are aware that Carlo Gambino and fis successors like Castellano were not particularly charitable figures, too?
Disregard of human life is the very essence of organised crime.
You might want to rethink before opening your mouth.
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
You are aware this is theoretically a Mafia themed RPG?
You are aware that Carlo Gambino and fis successors like Castellano were not particularly charitable figures, too?
Disregard of human life is the very essence of organised crime.
You might want to rethink before opening your mouth.
Fully aware of this. But while this is just a theoretic game you're also not allowed to have a Hitler-themed family. While it's not illegal to have a Sinaloa-themed family, I just think Sinaloa is much too grim to name yourself after. Other mafias and criminal gangs usually try to keep a low profile and generally only hurt those who get in the way of business. The Italian mafia has a certain code of honour. Sinaloa is a different breed. Sinaloa and other Mexican cartels are pretty much waging a civil war with lots of collateral damage, so I think there's a significant difference.
I didn't think my point of view would be popular, but I stand by it, so no, I'm not going to rethink.
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
its just a name...
Anonymous (22:03:23 - 26-02)
Novu at 20:29:56 on 26/02:
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
You are aware this is theoretically a Mafia themed RPG?
You are aware that Carlo Gambino and fis successors like Castellano were not particularly charitable figures, too?
Disregard of human life is the very essence of organised crime.
You might want to rethink before opening your mouth.
Anonymous (20:44:43 - 26-02)
Valander at 18:30:10 on 26/02:
Free to try!!
Do you want some?
Anonymous at 18:16:07 on 26/02:
so you are ranking to get shot ? :D
Valander at 18:00:33 on 26/02:
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
Anonymous at 10:04:31 on 26/02:
notte?
Anonymous at 09:15:44 on 26/02:
Who is Sinaloa?
Who is Sinaloa?
notte?
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
so you are ranking to get shot ? :D
Free to try!!
Do you want some?
some what?
Novu (20:29:56 - 26-02)
Wikipedia:
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
"By the end of Felipe Calderón's administration (2006–2012), the official death toll of the Mexican Drug War was at least 60,000, most of whom were criminals.[43] although unconfirmed accounts set the homicide rate above 100,000 deaths, given the large number of people who have disappeared."
As such I think using the name Sinaloa might be a bit too much. The brutality by which they operate is disgusting. I know people are using names like Hells Angels also. That's obviously also not good people, though I think more of Sons of Anarchy, instead of a cartel abducting innocent people, beheading them and some never to be found again. I hate to pull the nazi-card, but that's the kind of brutality Mexican drug cartels operate by - a total disregard of human lives.
But you know, you decide by yourself who you want to imitate or idolise.
Valander (18:30:10 - 26-02)
Anonymous at 18:16:07 on 26/02:
so you are ranking to get shot ? :D
Valander at 18:00:33 on 26/02:
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
Anonymous at 10:04:31 on 26/02:
notte?
Anonymous at 09:15:44 on 26/02:
Who is Sinaloa?
Who is Sinaloa?
notte?
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
so you are ranking to get shot ? :D
Free to try!!
Do you want some?
Anonymous (18:16:07 - 26-02)
Valander at 18:00:33 on 26/02:
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
Anonymous at 10:04:31 on 26/02:
notte?
Anonymous at 09:15:44 on 26/02:
Who is Sinaloa?
Who is Sinaloa?
notte?
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
so you are ranking to get shot ? :D
Valander (18:00:33 - 26-02)
Anonymous at 10:04:31 on 26/02:
notte?
Anonymous at 09:15:44 on 26/02:
Who is Sinaloa?
Who is Sinaloa?
notte?
Hi all o/
Sinaloa is totaly NEW family :D
We are not notte or another fam and we are not a part of any pact or groups.
And our priority is not this version...
Hopefully my explanation is clear enough for everyone
Have a nice game :w
Anonymous (10:04:31 - 26-02)
Anonymous at 09:15:44 on 26/02:
Who is Sinaloa?
Who is Sinaloa?
notte?
Anonymous (09:15:44 - 26-02)
Who is Sinaloa?
Anonymous (21:08:41 - 25-02)
Anonymous at 19:55:42 on 25/02:
is it better to sit and wait to get shot ? and lucchese hasnt got strong accs like as righelli has.
if vogue anadolu samyo governing sinaola karadeniz can team up and shoot lucchese , im pretty sure they will succed it.
if they dont shoot , messina krays lusa gambino andoria righelli lucchese prophecy alcatraz will hunt them one by one...
Anonymous at 00:58:36 on 25/02:
While I like talking about imaginary things, like fairies, god(s) or Gambinos' balls. I have a more interesting question. When will see the next Turk fail war this version? And will they try on Lucchese and Righelli again?
While I like talking about imaginary things, like fairies, god(s) or Gambinos' balls. I have a more interesting question. When will see the next Turk fail war this version? And will they try on Lucchese and Righelli again?
is it better to sit and wait to get shot ? and lucchese hasnt got strong accs like as righelli has.
if vogue anadolu samyo governing sinaola karadeniz can team up and shoot lucchese , im pretty sure they will succed it.
if they dont shoot , messina krays lusa gambino andoria righelli lucchese prophecy alcatraz will hunt them one by one...
No, it is more amusing to see them go for a fourth strike/fail.
I am more curious about when the other non-turks fam will start their war for the version win.
And Alcatraz, Gambino, Traffi and Krays did more for this version than that entire turk pact combined. And they were succesful with their move.
I hope Kankas will just retire.
Anonymous (19:55:42 - 25-02)
Anonymous at 00:58:36 on 25/02:
While I like talking about imaginary things, like fairies, god(s) or Gambinos' balls. I have a more interesting question. When will see the next Turk fail war this version? And will they try on Lucchese and Righelli again?
While I like talking about imaginary things, like fairies, god(s) or Gambinos' balls. I have a more interesting question. When will see the next Turk fail war this version? And will they try on Lucchese and Righelli again?
is it better to sit and wait to get shot ? and lucchese hasnt got strong accs like as righelli has.
if vogue anadolu samyo governing sinaola karadeniz can team up and shoot lucchese , im pretty sure they will succed it.
if they dont shoot , messina krays lusa gambino andoria righelli lucchese prophecy alcatraz will hunt them one by one...
Anonymous (00:58:36 - 25-02)
While I like talking about imaginary things, like fairies, god(s) or Gambinos' balls. I have a more interesting question. When will see the next Turk fail war this version? And will they try on Lucchese and Righelli again?
Anonymous (22:32:13 - 24-02)
anybody knows how progress go for next improved version?
ks ? casino's back ? other famsystem ?
ks ? casino's back ? other famsystem ?
so if im correct top 6 fams atm are friendss?
No