lackeys killed the game.... maybe so. But without lackeys alot of players wouldn't have the time to play anymore. so the game would of died anyway. Players + devs killed the game.

lackeys killed the game but filled pockets... 1 month versions it is just pathetic

this is sooo true. the first version you mentioned had lots of people playing and lots on irc at all times of the day and night. sad those versions are gone :(

3.2 was the last version where alot of ppl still played, then 3.3 was shorter with less ppl, then 3.4 shorter with less ppl etc. until we've arrived at the worst version ever, with next version looking even worse than this one, i agree its over

come on irc :D

Thanks for trying but NO

Is it possible to put some kind of limit for every city
with amount of players that could be in at same time?
Also make a chage for group crimes.
If there is a lot of crimes i city profit is going to be lower.
Something like - You can`t steal in poor city

Gretting for all good players and sorry if I made some mistakes in typing

About staying in Detroit, you are right.
But, you still don't understand what I wanted to say. Nevermind, everyone is looking differently on some things, so we do also. Take care buddy \o

And Detroit is a hot spot because?
I will answer it for you, because players only stay in Detroit and do nothing outside Detroit. And that's not the Admins fault. Again, if you can't make your players leave Detroit, then it's your families own fault. It's not like admins inflicted travel restrictions on other cities like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia or Baltimore. Seriously. If you can't make your playery leave Detroit, just quit.

There you have a problem with players. Don't think that anyone can force them, but instead of forcing try to educate and explain why it is good to stay in own city. Anyway, they do what they want to do. Every member is really appreciated, so there is no point to argue and keep bitching them to move.


Admins did on someway, putting "10% pokerspot" in the city which is known as a "hot destination" from years ago. They should change to 2x5% or even reduce it, because the profit is, as I said, too damn high which causes immortality on one side and unsuccessful trying on the other.

too much changes=too many bugs
too many bugs=too many abuser
too many abuser= bla bla bla
problem is game is already dying when they introduce lackey
admins didnt do anything bout it but keep implementing new things and dont listen to player like us cause why rl money keeps rollin in
ppl like us likes to whine etc etc etc
but still we used rl money to play this game
so whatever shit the game will goes on
unless you stop using rl money they(admins) will do something bout this game

I dont know how to play poker :)

so dont make a guess dude you are apparently bad at it.

Yes, and that's the whole point. It lies within the players responsibility and ability to change the profit of the Detroit spots. If the fams outside Detroit can't get it done to make their players to do a simple OC outside Detroit, they should really just quit.
Move to Detroit to do the MOCs if you must and to do some raids on the profitable spots and then leave it.
I know, I expect a lot from players to do 6 additional clicks (travel page, select detroit, confirm, half an hour later, travel page, select home town, confirm). But if lackeys have made you that lazy, to not even invest those 30 minutes, then why do you spend any time on this game at all?

The last question is a general question for those players that just stayed in Detroit and did everything there and fed Faffie.

Tops can force them to tbh. I know aeterna keeps moving their players to philly. Not to take away money from Faffie since that's their blood but to make sure they keep money from their members within the family. I don't see why other families can't do that.

lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?

Did i say i don't travel myself? i agree with you mate but majority doesnt.

Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.

I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.

It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.

The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.

You make no sense on your first statement. I have done most of my OCs, raids and heists outside Detroit. Even if I'd do a MOC iin Detroit I would travel back 30 mins later. People like yourself are part of the problem, you can do 1 or 2 OCs everyday and your lackeys can be hired in another city. You're just lazy if you say you can't leave Detroit.

that is a great contribution to this discussion mate ;) , That is a whole other point, which in my personal view can only be contributed by an App which (could) attracked many new players to this game.. just a desktop mode is not working.

Game died man. JUST accept it