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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (18:31:03 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 15:22:03 on 22/12:
Tops can force them to tbh. I know aeterna keeps moving their players to philly. Not to take away money from Faffie since that's their blood but to make sure they keep money from their members within the family. I don't see why other families can't do that.
Nakketikker at 15:04:53 on 22/12:
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Anonymous at 14:59:22 on 22/12:
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Tops can force them to tbh. I know aeterna keeps moving their players to philly. Not to take away money from Faffie since that's their blood but to make sure they keep money from their members within the family. I don't see why other families can't do that.
There you have a problem with players. Don't think that anyone can force them, but instead of forcing try to educate and explain why it is good to stay in own city. Anyway, they do what they want to do. Every member is really appreciated, so there is no point to argue and keep bitching them to move.
Anonymous at 14:15:48 on 22/12:
Interesting, you agree with me, it's mostly players fault, yet I am talking BS? Makes sense. I am standing with my point, that you have the weird expectation, that admins are responsible for the stupidity of over90% of the players who don't leave Detroit.
If you can convince your family not to gamble in Detroit, why can't other fams do it?
Interesting, you agree with me, it's mostly players fault, yet I am talking BS? Makes sense. I am standing with my point, that you have the weird expectation, that admins are responsible for the stupidity of over90% of the players who don't leave Detroit.
If you can convince your family not to gamble in Detroit, why can't other fams do it?
Admins did on someway, putting "10% pokerspot" in the city which is known as a "hot destination" from years ago. They should change to 2x5% or even reduce it, because the profit is, as I said, too damn high which causes immortality on one side and unsuccessful trying on the other.
maddoxx (17:09:35 - 22-12)
too much changes=too many bugs
too many bugs=too many abuser
too many abuser= bla bla bla
problem is game is already dying when they introduce lackey
admins didnt do anything bout it but keep implementing new things and dont listen to player like us cause why rl money keeps rollin in
ppl like us likes to whine etc etc etc
but still we used rl money to play this game
so whatever shit the game will goes on
unless you stop using rl money they(admins) will do something bout this game
too many bugs=too many abuser
too many abuser= bla bla bla
problem is game is already dying when they introduce lackey
admins didnt do anything bout it but keep implementing new things and dont listen to player like us cause why rl money keeps rollin in
ppl like us likes to whine etc etc etc
but still we used rl money to play this game
so whatever shit the game will goes on
unless you stop using rl money they(admins) will do something bout this game
erdemo (16:50:43 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 13:30:40 on 22/12:
Let me guess, where you spent your entire version? Playing poker in Detroit? And wondering how that Poker Spot made that much profit?
Let me guess, where you spent your entire version? Playing poker in Detroit? And wondering how that Poker Spot made that much profit?
so dont make a guess dude you are apparently bad at it.
Anonymous (15:23:37 - 22-12)
Nakketikker at 15:04:53 on 22/12:
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Anonymous at 14:59:22 on 22/12:
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Yes, and that's the whole point. It lies within the players responsibility and ability to change the profit of the Detroit spots. If the fams outside Detroit can't get it done to make their players to do a simple OC outside Detroit, they should really just quit.
Move to Detroit to do the MOCs if you must and to do some raids on the profitable spots and then leave it.
I know, I expect a lot from players to do 6 additional clicks (travel page, select detroit, confirm, half an hour later, travel page, select home town, confirm). But if lackeys have made you that lazy, to not even invest those 30 minutes, then why do you spend any time on this game at all?
The last question is a general question for those players that just stayed in Detroit and did everything there and fed Faffie.
Anonymous (15:22:03 - 22-12)
Nakketikker at 15:04:53 on 22/12:
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Anonymous at 14:59:22 on 22/12:
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Tops can force them to tbh. I know aeterna keeps moving their players to philly. Not to take away money from Faffie since that's their blood but to make sure they keep money from their members within the family. I don't see why other families can't do that.
Nakketikker (15:04:53 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 14:59:22 on 22/12:
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Nakketikker (15:02:54 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 14:58:50 on 22/12:
You make no sense on your first statement. I have done most of my OCs, raids and heists outside Detroit. Even if I'd do a MOC iin Detroit I would travel back 30 mins later. People like yourself are part of the problem, you can do 1 or 2 OCs everyday and your lackeys can be hired in another city. You're just lazy if you say you can't leave Detroit.
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
You make no sense on your first statement. I have done most of my OCs, raids and heists outside Detroit. Even if I'd do a MOC iin Detroit I would travel back 30 mins later. People like yourself are part of the problem, you can do 1 or 2 OCs everyday and your lackeys can be hired in another city. You're just lazy if you say you can't leave Detroit.
Did i say i don't travel myself? i agree with you mate but majority doesnt.
Anonymous (14:59:22 - 22-12)
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
Anonymous (14:58:50 - 22-12)
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
You make no sense on your first statement. I have done most of my OCs, raids and heists outside Detroit. Even if I'd do a MOC iin Detroit I would travel back 30 mins later. People like yourself are part of the problem, you can do 1 or 2 OCs everyday and your lackeys can be hired in another city. You're just lazy if you say you can't leave Detroit.
Nakketikker (14:29:44 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 14:27:10 on 22/12:
Game died man. JUST accept it
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Game died man. JUST accept it
that is a great contribution to this discussion mate ;) , That is a whole other point, which in my personal view can only be contributed by an App which (could) attracked many new players to this game.. just a desktop mode is not working.
Anonymous (14:27:10 - 22-12)
Nakketikker at 14:23:00 on 22/12:
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Game died man. JUST accept it
Nakketikker (14:23:00 - 22-12)
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Anonymous (14:15:48 - 22-12)
Paris at 14:08:26 on 22/12:
Wtf is with you? Retarded or what? I'm pretty sure that we don't gamble at detroit or any other city except our own. So you are talking bullshit. How can I convince other 90%+ of players to go out of detroit? It is mostly players fault, but still admins have to do something about it... Because billions of profit per week is fucking destroying versions...
Anonymous at 13:05:46 on 22/12:
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Anonymous at 10:59:28 on 22/12:
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Interesting, you agree with me, it's mostly players fault, yet I am talking BS? Makes sense. I am standing with my point, that you have the weird expectation, that admins are responsible for the stupidity of over90% of the players who don't leave Detroit.
If you can convince your family not to gamble in Detroit, why can't other fams do it?
Anonymous at 13:05:46 on 22/12:
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Anonymous at 10:59:28 on 22/12:
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Anonymous (13:30:40 - 22-12)
erdemo at 13:19:40 on 22/12:
I was wondering who first gonna call whiners to people who discuss game's faults and outcomes... :)
Awards go to you.
Anonymous at 13:05:46 on 22/12:
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Anonymous at 10:59:28 on 22/12:
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
I was wondering who first gonna call whiners to people who discuss game's faults and outcomes... :)
Awards go to you.
Nope somebody was faster actually.
Let me guess, where you spent your entire version? Playing poker in Detroit? And wondering how that Poker Spot made that much profit?
erdemo (13:19:40 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 13:05:46 on 22/12:
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Anonymous at 10:59:28 on 22/12:
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
I was wondering who first gonna call whiners to people who discuss game's faults and outcomes... :)
Awards go to you.
Anonymous (13:05:46 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 10:59:28 on 22/12:
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Stop whining ffs.
Why did this object win those versions?
Because you are too lazy/stupid to populate other cities than Detroit. So again, you are crying that developers should fix something you (all players) broke. So how about trying to populate other cities like New York or Chicago first?
It's not like there's free pussy with beer taste in Detroit. Or at least I have not encountered it.
Anonymous at 10:59:28 on 22/12:
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
It's not about Faffie and war against them or w/e. Btw, seems like Faffie lost themselves a version with some actions, but I'm not into it to discuss. It's about pretty unfair ka which doesn't allow that everyone to have the same chances. Yes, indeed that the Detroit spots makes a difference leaving to family who picked it a shitload of money, but there are a lot of other things which are directly affecting to current ka. If it continues like that, soon we will have man winning the version. ;)
Anonymous (11:33:52 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 11:31:49 on 22/12:
Who wants to see Faffie vs Aeterna?
Who wants to see Faffie vs Aeterna?
It isn't the fact that fams don't try to get their members to their home town but many players just ignore it, because of the fact that you can't organise a decent MOC or even an OC in a different city, Furthermore nobody reranks because of the RP cap which is installed during the fact of lackeys/activity.
Then the fam tops do a pretty poor job. I mean just looking at the profits the spots in Detroit make, it really should give players a clue, that staying in Detroit and making another fam rich and thus providing them with a big stash bullet(s) (money) is not a smart thing.
I simply disagree with the "whining mentality" shown by some posters here, that admins/devs need to change the objects because the players themselves are too stupid and do all their stuff in Detroit.
It would be great, if even the most retarded fams (I am not mentioning you by name Maraz and Kurosawa) would simply understand that concept with city spots and acted accordingly.
The MOCs can stay in Detroit, they are a pain, but I mean really OCs and heists?
You need three (!) more players to organize a freaking oc. And you are telling me your family can't gather a total of 4 players to do an oc outside of Detroit. If that's your point, you should consider retiring.
lol, why do you make a story based on me as a player, i was speaking in general mate, dont you agree with the fact that many players are to lazy to travel?
Tops can force them to tbh. I know aeterna keeps moving their players to philly. Not to take away money from Faffie since that's their blood but to make sure they keep money from their members within the family. I don't see why other families can't do that.
There you have a problem with players. Don't think that anyone can force them, but instead of forcing try to educate and explain why it is good to stay in own city. Anyway, they do what they want to do. Every member is really appreciated, so there is no point to argue and keep bitching them to move.
Interesting, you agree with me, it's mostly players fault, yet I am talking BS? Makes sense. I am standing with my point, that you have the weird expectation, that admins are responsible for the stupidity of over90% of the players who don't leave Detroit.
If you can convince your family not to gamble in Detroit, why can't other fams do it?
Admins did on someway, putting "10% pokerspot" in the city which is known as a "hot destination" from years ago. They should change to 2x5% or even reduce it, because the profit is, as I said, too damn high which causes immortality on one side and unsuccessful trying on the other.
And Detroit is a hot spot because?
I will answer it for you, because players only stay in Detroit and do nothing outside Detroit. And that's not the Admins fault. Again, if you can't make your players leave Detroit, then it's your families own fault. It's not like admins inflicted travel restrictions on other cities like New York, Chicago, Philadelphia or Baltimore. Seriously. If you can't make your playery leave Detroit, just quit.