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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
erdemo (11:15:54 - 22-12)
Anonymous (11:03:20 - 22-12)
I already warned families 3 days after faffie went up here on OB that families should get their players to their own city. Yet they kept making billions with their spots and every war my targets were all initially in Detroit.
People complain veggzi is strong and think he's overpowered. He is strong because you have him incredible amounts of your money that could've been in your own family if you had ordered your silly members to get their lazy ass out of Detroit. He wouldn't be so strong if he didn't have the bullets to kill like 15 brugs in 2 weeks.
Don't whine at kcode or on on when you havent forced your members to get out of Detroit. I myself always sit in the city where my fam is located. My lackeys are there and I do my transfers and gambling there. My base was in Detroit this time but if it wasn't the only reason for me being in Detroit would be a fast moc. I'd go away after that again.
People complain veggzi is strong and think he's overpowered. He is strong because you have him incredible amounts of your money that could've been in your own family if you had ordered your silly members to get their lazy ass out of Detroit. He wouldn't be so strong if he didn't have the bullets to kill like 15 brugs in 2 weeks.
Don't whine at kcode or on on when you havent forced your members to get out of Detroit. I myself always sit in the city where my fam is located. My lackeys are there and I do my transfers and gambling there. My base was in Detroit this time but if it wasn't the only reason for me being in Detroit would be a fast moc. I'd go away after that again.
Anonymous (10:59:28 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 10:52:23 on 22/12:
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
I can blame admins for not putting 5% two det objects as well. In last 3 vers, who took that object won game.
Anonymous (10:57:22 - 22-12)
KCode at 06:20:54 on 22/12:
I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.
There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.
But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.
We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.
\o
Anonymous at 01:41:13 on 22/12:
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.
There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.
But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.
We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.
\o
1 Month accounts should not make such a big difference even if they have 2-3 kills for ks or not. Take logs of numbers or normalize them whatever, but this KA kills game.
Anonymous (10:52:23 - 22-12)
Paris at 10:41:10 on 22/12:
He get shot by high GF as a BRUGLIONE with 130% killskill, and totally outnumbered so it's very close to immortality. If he had enough points under his regime, he would be immortal. Ariella have now shitload of ks for just couple of kills which others didn't made. Find someone who can kill her in this version. Nobody. ;) So something have to be changed about kill skill (not very sure it is good idea to remove it because there will be a lot of hugging later on, but with this ks/ka version are too fucking short. This one ends before my dc status, which tell the most about leading families and game system) or current ka. Reason lays ofc in game system (not in tops as somebody mentioned). Even tops know that if they rerank in full squad, they will be pwned once more, so it is wasting of the time. Developers have to do something with this problem, cz it will cause dying of omerta.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Did anybody even try? Do you know that rule that when someone is out of safehouse you can't safehouse for 45 min? That is at least 3 shots you can do in that time, and with decent accounts even Ariella does not survive this. And look at accounts in Aeterna and Lusa, they also made strong accounts who could kill Ariella.
The blame is totally on yourself:
1. Nobody did anything about Faffie getting the sick profit spots in Det, which gave them alot of BM
2. Nobody did a serious attempt to down Faffie
So stop whining and do something about it (next time)
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Anonymous (10:27:29 - 22-12)
Johnx at 10:24:18 on 22/12:
As far as i know Gambino has shot a lot this version :)
Anonymous at 10:17:40 on 22/12:
gaybino, faffies puppies, get your act together and show some balls you are a disgrace to whatever gambino was and stood for, you did shit this version! please deny it....
gaybino, faffies puppies, get your act together and show some balls you are a disgrace to whatever gambino was and stood for, you did shit this version! please deny it....
Anonymous (10:26:02 - 22-12)
Anonymous at 08:42:00 on 22/12:
user group never had any experienced top players and mainly voted for bullshit.
Myrddin at 06:39:46 on 22/12:
what about bringing back a usergroup or something.
what about bringing back a usergroup or something.
user group never had any experienced top players and mainly voted for bullshit.
Anonymous at 10:17:40 on 22/12:
gaybino, faffies puppies, get your act together and show some balls you are a disgrace to whatever gambino was and stood for, you did shit this version! please deny it....
gaybino, faffies puppies, get your act together and show some balls you are a disgrace to whatever gambino was and stood for, you did shit this version! please deny it....
Anonymous (10:17:40 - 22-12)
gaybino, faffies puppies, get your act together and show some balls you are a disgrace to whatever gambino was and stood for, you did shit this version! please deny it....
KCode at 06:20:54 on 22/12:
I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.
There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.
But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.
We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.
\o
Anonymous at 01:41:13 on 22/12:
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.
There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.
But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.
We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.
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Really appreciate this response Kcode and lets see what difference the changes will make.
And totally agree with prevoius posts, if you dont want detroit spots to be over powered then get your players to move away from it. Faffie chose detroit this version knowing people are too lazy to or stuck in their ways.
Anonymous (08:42:00 - 22-12)
Myrddin at 06:39:46 on 22/12:
what about bringing back a usergroup or something.
what about bringing back a usergroup or something.
user group never had any experienced top players and mainly voted for bullshit.
Myrddin (06:39:46 - 22-12)
what about bringing back a usergroup or something.
Anonymous at 01:41:13 on 22/12:
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.
There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.
But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.
We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.
\o
Smul at 02:06:25 on 22/12:
I call bullshit.
Maybe true in essence to an extend that these accounts, this version, could have died in a couple of shots. But unlike me last version, there was no way that these accounts would have had to put up with a far outnumbered situation like me. Thus making it impossible for any group of families to even target them. As they would just go into SH for 10 hours and let their bloods clean up the people that could attempt to shoot.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
I call bullshit.
Maybe true in essence to an extend that these accounts, this version, could have died in a couple of shots. But unlike me last version, there was no way that these accounts would have had to put up with a far outnumbered situation like me. Thus making it impossible for any group of families to even target them. As they would just go into SH for 10 hours and let their bloods clean up the people that could attempt to shoot.
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
I call bullshit.
Maybe true in essence to an extend that these accounts, this version, could have died in a couple of shots. But unlike me last version, there was no way that these accounts would have had to put up with a far outnumbered situation like me. Thus making it impossible for any group of families to even target them. As they would just go into SH for 10 hours and let their bloods clean up the people that could attempt to shoot.
Anonymous (01:41:13 - 22-12)
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.
But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.
The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.
But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.
Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.
Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.
Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.
Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Anonymous (00:27:29 - 22-12)
we've had versions in which people refused to shoot for months and then their accounts would be very strong and unkillable for people that died while their FAM was warring. So keep ks. Also shoot the bottle isn't going to solve anything. it would just make people hug again. Perhaps adding new features that force being online would help. Also perking the spots would help. perhaps omerta should have a bit faster ranking with a rebirth. nothing happeneds anyway before briglione....
I already warned families 3 days after faffie went up here on OB that families should get their players to their own city. Yet they kept making billions with their spots and every war my targets were all initially in Detroit.
People complain veggzi is strong and think he's overpowered. He is strong because you have him incredible amounts of your money that could've been in your own family if you had ordered your silly members to get their lazy ass out of Detroit. He wouldn't be so strong if he didn't have the bullets to kill like 15 brugs in 2 weeks.
Don't whine at kcode or on on when you havent forced your members to get out of Detroit. I myself always sit in the city where my fam is located. My lackeys are there and I do my transfers and gambling there. My base was in Detroit this time but if it wasn't the only reason for me being in Detroit would be a fast moc. I'd go away after that again.
why not?
I remember old times of this game where there were interest in travelling, admins should also think about outcomes of lackeys while they are deciding to put it in action, if it will kill some nice features of game, they can basically come up with new features.