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Emlin United Kingdom (09:03:52 - 22-12)
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KCode at 06:20:54 on 22/12:
Anonymous at 01:41:13 on 22/12:
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.

Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.

Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.

Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.

Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.

But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.

The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.

But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.

Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.

I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.

There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.

But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.

We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.

\o




Really appreciate this response Kcode and lets see what difference the changes will make.
And totally agree with prevoius posts, if you dont want detroit spots to be over powered then get your players to move away from it. Faffie chose detroit this version knowing people are too lazy to or stuck in their ways.
Anonymous (08:42:00 - 22-12)
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Myrddin at 06:39:46 on 22/12:
what about bringing back a usergroup or something.

user group never had any experienced top players and mainly voted for bullshit.
Myrddin (06:39:46 - 22-12)
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what about bringing back a usergroup or something.
KCode Portugal Patron (06:20:54 - 22-12)
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Anonymous at 01:41:13 on 22/12:
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.

Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.

Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.

Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.

Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.

But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.

The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.

But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.

Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.

I totally agree with the fact ks is not working as it should and to be honest KS system was the only one I didn't remake on the KA part, it is getting changed, part of it it's coded already and KS will be related to the strenght of account you are shooting, if it's a strong or same value of your account (if you get risk of dieing in BF) you will get decent amount of KS, if it's an useless account you won't get any decent KS, that is on work and hope we can finish the testing before next reset.

There is also a nice amount of working going on related to city maps, it will be totally extended and this will include a nice system based on players houses, I will give some details later when it's near the end of testing phase.

But at least, I love to see the fact that KA at the moment, made the families work in a strategy and it proved to be a decent one, that's the point, work together and make your own family accounts getting stronger, imo.

We'll see how the future changes will work, but that's one thing I can assure you, different strategies are coming to the game (again). And that makes me really happy for seeing families working with them.

\o



MurderInc Austria (02:24:47 - 22-12)
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Smul at 02:06:25 on 22/12:
MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.

I call bullshit.

Maybe true in essence to an extend that these accounts, this version, could have died in a couple of shots. But unlike me last version, there was no way that these accounts would have had to put up with a far outnumbered situation like me. Thus making it impossible for any group of families to even target them. As they would just go into SH for 10 hours and let their bloods clean up the people that could attempt to shoot.
I'm talking about account strength and the KA here. Not sure how this versions blood webs are related to that. Surely, you could make that argument for any KA that isn't as simple as 60k = kill. SHing for 10 hours and letting your bloods clean up would work in any case.
Smul Netherlands (02:06:25 - 22-12)
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MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.

I call bullshit.

Maybe true in essence to an extend that these accounts, this version, could have died in a couple of shots. But unlike me last version, there was no way that these accounts would have had to put up with a far outnumbered situation like me. Thus making it impossible for any group of families to even target them. As they would just go into SH for 10 hours and let their bloods clean up the people that could attempt to shoot.
Anonymous (01:41:13 - 22-12)
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MurderInc at 01:21:21 on 22/12:
Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.

Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.

Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.

Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.

Wow, some post that makes sense.
How about letting rebirths keep their earned KS, or give them KS for kills below lc. How about going down two ranks each rebirth. First accounts KS for kills LC+ first rebirth for swi+ next for mob+. But no lower than that. I don't want to suggest to go down to gain ks for shoppies or so.

But that only solves one part of the problems for rebirths. The bigger one remains the unbalanced economy, +credit cap for lackeys. Rebirths cannot afford to buy dcs on obay. that's a way bigger problem.

The spot system, well the problem with that seems to be, it got introduced many versions too late, after lackeys made players complacent and happy to do everything in Detroit.
For the poker spot I suggest another solution, make poker tables available from every city, but only the spot in which the winning player is located gets the money. If people are still too lazy to leave Detroit then, well, they already deserve to get steamrolled for being lazy now.

But again, nobody forces you to do everything in Detroit. If you can't get it done to at least make your fam members change their "base of operation" to your hometown, then you deserve to get steamrolled by the fams that control the objects in Detroit. "But everybody is in Detroit. Yadda, yadda, yadda" Make a change yourself, get your fam members to move to another city.

Paris entirely misses an important point, how do those accounts become dreadnuts? By shooting and killing. How can they do that, by having sufficient bullets (which also increases account strength). Why do they have those bullets, by having the best objects, which again leads you to Detroit and players being too complacent/lazy/stupid to do their stuff somewhere else.
MurderInc Austria (01:21:21 - 22-12)
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Paris at 00:43:26 on 22/12:
Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
I strongly disagree. No account is immortal. You do remember Smul got killed last version, right? Or maybe you remember Monte Carlo and their two top accounts from 4.1? They died as well, both being stronger than any other account in the game at that point.
Every account in this game is just a few well-executed shots away from being dead. That's what makes it interesting.

Removing the changes that were introduced with this KA would just once again favor dupe-armies instead of active players and families. I don't see how that's an improvement.

Now, there's definitely something that needs to be done for rerankers (and players that started late into the version, for that matter). I agree with you on that. Maybe some kind of ranking and KS multiplier for rebirths/late-starters would be a start.

Some thought should also go into the new spot system. It definitely increased the amount of money families earn. Maybe versions would last longer if families couldn't afford to go to gigantic wars after barely a month.
I'm not talking about Detroit being OP here by the way, that's something that the playerbase needs to fix (I think we can be expected to think about which family benefits from our poker games/gambling/bank transfers) - even though I've heard worse ideas than changing the Detroit 10% poker spot to two 5% spots.
Paris Montenegro (00:43:26 - 22-12)
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Idd that this ks and this ka is really killing the game. After 15 days, experienced player can make immortal account, just like Ariella in this and Smul in last version made. Also, ka it's quite unfair to rebirthed players. Ka needs to be changed once more and ofc ks needs to be changed (or removed).
Anonymous (00:27:29 - 22-12)
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we've had versions in which people refused to shoot for months and then their accounts would be very strong and unkillable for people that died while their FAM was warring. So keep ks. Also shoot the bottle isn't going to solve anything. it would just make people hug again. Perhaps adding new features that force being online would help. Also perking the spots would help. perhaps omerta should have a bit faster ranking with a rebirth. nothing happeneds anyway before briglione....
Anonymous (23:56:00 - 21-12)
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we should talk about length of version. as u all know this version lasted just a month.. worse then dm.. devs should do something about it.
Anonymous (22:33:23 - 21-12)
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Ofc dont remove ks when you are killing, would be a big hugging game then. Why should you shoot when you only weak your account with it?
Anonymous (22:03:32 - 21-12)
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Anonymous at 21:19:49 on 21/12:
Carnivale at 21:00:13 on 21/12:
I think these wars for killskill destroys too much of the game, and many people might not come back. Remove it. Let rankpoints count more, remove killskill. Give rankpoints for kills.
Or get the bottle back.

Should devs implement a lackey to shoot the bottle, too?
Carnivale (21:47:10 - 21-12)
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The bottle request is just silly, maybe if only organiced crimes(heist/oc/MOC/Raids) can give killskill. That would favour online players.
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Carnivale at 21:00:13 on 21/12:
I think these wars for killskill destroys too much of the game, and many people might not come back. Remove it. Let rankpoints count more, remove killskill. Give rankpoints for kills.
Or get the bottle back.
Carnivale (21:00:13 - 21-12)
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I think these wars for killskill destroys too much of the game, and many people might not come back. Remove it. Let rankpoints count more, remove killskill. Give rankpoints for kills.
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Anonymous at 20:37:15 on 21/12:
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Anonymous at 19:38:04 on 21/12:
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Anonymous at 18:35:14 on 21/12:
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Anonymous at 17:00:47 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 16:59:40 on 21/12:
Aeterna they will hit faffie they will not let them win vers..
also can be Faffie/Gambino/Savagery/Alcatraz <> Aeterna Lusa

The strength and numbers of Aeterna, they surely cannot be beat now
It is not Aeterna anymore as more than half their strenght comes from swallowed fams

Right.. You do realise they lost about 70 brugs before and they still have 120 potential brugs incoming?

everyone shoot aeterna and lusa at 22.00 see if they can be stopped!!!

Interesting tactic. Too bad good part of Omerta already tried this a few days ago. I do wonder, though, why OBN seems to favour Faffie over Aeterna. Why does the general opinion seem to be cheating should win over sheer numbers? Or are there simply more Faffians posting on this site?
Honestly, both don't deserve to win the most shitty version in history of omerta ;)

I dont want either of them to win. But why let aeterna have an easy win? lets try to at least make it fun.

fucker, do you shoot? tell me your ingame, i want to see you if you shoot on the war you want. fuckface ...

Devious is my ing you fucking cock sucking coward


AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - the pussy family conducted by a pussy.

You didnt shoot 1 bullet this version, and you want to talk, fuckface. Now you just been promoted to lamest person in Omerta. You and your very often drunk allya.

Devious, shot up before i put a bullet in your head.

go ahead do it, i wait
Anonymous (20:37:55 - 21-12)
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Anonymous at 20:37:15 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 20:31:39 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 20:16:52 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 20:00:26 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:38:04 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:34:51 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:21:34 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 18:35:14 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:41:56 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:17:19 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:00:47 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 16:59:40 on 21/12:
Aeterna they will hit faffie they will not let them win vers..
also can be Faffie/Gambino/Savagery/Alcatraz <> Aeterna Lusa

The strength and numbers of Aeterna, they surely cannot be beat now
It is not Aeterna anymore as more than half their strenght comes from swallowed fams

Right.. You do realise they lost about 70 brugs before and they still have 120 potential brugs incoming?

everyone shoot aeterna and lusa at 22.00 see if they can be stopped!!!

Interesting tactic. Too bad good part of Omerta already tried this a few days ago. I do wonder, though, why OBN seems to favour Faffie over Aeterna. Why does the general opinion seem to be cheating should win over sheer numbers? Or are there simply more Faffians posting on this site?
Honestly, both don't deserve to win the most shitty version in history of omerta ;)

I dont want either of them to win. But why let aeterna have an easy win? lets try to at least make it fun.

fucker, do you shoot? tell me your ingame, i want to see you if you shoot on the war you want. fuckface ...

Devious is my ing you fucking cock sucking coward


AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - the pussy family conducted by a pussy.

You didnt shoot 1 bullet this version, and you want to talk, fuckface. Now you just been promoted to lamest person in Omerta. You and your very often drunk allya.

Devious, shot up before i put a bullet in your head.
Anonymous (20:37:15 - 21-12)
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Anonymous at 20:31:39 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 20:16:52 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 20:00:26 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:38:04 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:34:51 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:21:34 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 18:35:14 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:41:56 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:17:19 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:00:47 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 16:59:40 on 21/12:
Aeterna they will hit faffie they will not let them win vers..
also can be Faffie/Gambino/Savagery/Alcatraz <> Aeterna Lusa

The strength and numbers of Aeterna, they surely cannot be beat now
It is not Aeterna anymore as more than half their strenght comes from swallowed fams

Right.. You do realise they lost about 70 brugs before and they still have 120 potential brugs incoming?

everyone shoot aeterna and lusa at 22.00 see if they can be stopped!!!

Interesting tactic. Too bad good part of Omerta already tried this a few days ago. I do wonder, though, why OBN seems to favour Faffie over Aeterna. Why does the general opinion seem to be cheating should win over sheer numbers? Or are there simply more Faffians posting on this site?
Honestly, both don't deserve to win the most shitty version in history of omerta ;)

I dont want either of them to win. But why let aeterna have an easy win? lets try to at least make it fun.

fucker, do you shoot? tell me your ingame, i want to see you if you shoot on the war you want. fuckface ...

Devious is my ing you fucking cock sucking coward


AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA - the pussy family conducted by a pussy.

You didnt shoot 1 bullet this version, and you want to talk, fuckface. Now you just been promoted to lamest person in Omerta. You and your very often drunk allya.
Anonymous (20:31:39 - 21-12)
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Anonymous at 20:16:52 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 20:00:26 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:38:04 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:34:51 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 19:21:34 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 18:35:14 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:41:56 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:17:19 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 17:00:47 on 21/12:
Anonymous at 16:59:40 on 21/12:
Aeterna they will hit faffie they will not let them win vers..
also can be Faffie/Gambino/Savagery/Alcatraz <> Aeterna Lusa

The strength and numbers of Aeterna, they surely cannot be beat now
It is not Aeterna anymore as more than half their strenght comes from swallowed fams

Right.. You do realise they lost about 70 brugs before and they still have 120 potential brugs incoming?

everyone shoot aeterna and lusa at 22.00 see if they can be stopped!!!

Interesting tactic. Too bad good part of Omerta already tried this a few days ago. I do wonder, though, why OBN seems to favour Faffie over Aeterna. Why does the general opinion seem to be cheating should win over sheer numbers? Or are there simply more Faffians posting on this site?
Honestly, both don't deserve to win the most shitty version in history of omerta ;)

I dont want either of them to win. But why let aeterna have an easy win? lets try to at least make it fun.

fucker, do you shoot? tell me your ingame, i want to see you if you shoot on the war you want. fuckface ...

Devious is my ing you fucking cock sucking coward