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General Comments & Major Rumors section.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Ber (12:24:18 - 22-08)
Anonymous at 11:27:29 on 22/08:
you would also need to know what the other guy (target) his bg setup is. Full attack would not die on a full deff target, but he would get killed by a balanced setup
its easy, you need attack to kill, you need def to live, go figure it out
Anonymous at 09:12:09 on 22/08:
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
you would also need to know what the other guy (target) his bg setup is. Full attack would not die on a full deff target, but he would get killed by a balanced setup
its easy, you need attack to kill, you need def to live, go figure it out
.. Your so wrong with that :")
Anonymous (11:27:29 - 22-08)
Anonymous at 09:12:09 on 22/08:
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
you would also need to know what the other guy (target) his bg setup is. Full attack would not die on a full deff target, but he would get killed by a balanced setup
its easy, you need attack to kill, you need def to live, go figure it out
Anonymous (09:53:34 - 22-08)
Anonymous at 01:11:35 on 22/08:
That sounds strange. Wasn't the point of killing always that you coud choose wether your target knew who shot or not? I have to admit that I never shoot anonymous during wars, but even then...the option's there for a reason.
Johnx at 19:35:28 on 21/08:
yes you can, you get the kill message on your rebirth
Anonymous at 19:25:28 on 21/08:
you cant see who killed u..
Anonymous at 19:24:23 on 21/08:
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
Anonymous at 19:07:44 on 21/08:
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
Anonymous at 18:32:10 on 21/08:
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
you cant see who killed u..
annoying bug.. no wonder ppl knew I shot them..
Anonymous (09:50:50 - 22-08)
Anonymous at 09:12:09 on 22/08:
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
i hear alot of ppl using 2att 3deff, most off m survived atleast 1 attack, and some took their attacker in BF.
But it rly depends on the attacker to. If you wanna be safe? go full def :P
Anonymous (09:12:09 - 22-08)
can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?
Stanto (08:17:20 - 22-08)
KA is perfect and Rob is very bad solution , people who wants Rob are prolly lackey account or dupe with 0,00003% online time and wanna more security for there account or dupe . So fuck off with Rob , KA is very nice for strong account . I have it acc which was hunted by 6 or 7 fams and survive a 2 days and take down 6 people ...so do it more group crimes give a bit more time in game and you will have it strong acc . 3 hours 12 hours 3 days alarms works fine for me ...
Anonymous (01:11:35 - 22-08)
Johnx at 19:35:28 on 21/08:
yes you can, you get the kill message on your rebirth
Anonymous at 19:25:28 on 21/08:
you cant see who killed u..
Anonymous at 19:24:23 on 21/08:
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
Anonymous at 19:07:44 on 21/08:
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
Anonymous at 18:32:10 on 21/08:
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
you cant see who killed u..
Anonymous (21:40:51 - 21-08)
KCode at 20:10:35 on 21/08:
We are starting an open meeting at IRC, join us in #Stage or http://youtu.be/0uiutN-jgmE
We are starting an open meeting at IRC, join us in #Stage or http://youtu.be/0uiutN-jgmE
this was an awesome idea and well done for listening to us.
Anonymous (20:30:59 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 16:47:26 on 21/08:
You can replace Rob..
I played 3.0 very actively. With all the new items back then it took around 180,000 to 240,000k bullets to kill a account.
Now the average is around...60,000.
Numbers speak for themselves.
Anonymous at 16:43:56 on 21/08:
That coincided with those massblooding gangbang stuff.
KCode has a point. If families like Gravano or now Faffie do massblood stuff you have short versions. That's the problem with player mentality.
If you face 5 to 1 or 7 to 1 odds Rob makes no difference whatsoever, you survive 1 more shot. That's about it.
Anonymous at 14:45:04 on 21/08:
KA might be more fair but its still way, way more easy to kill off a entire family than it was in 3.0 . You can't say its a coincidence that versions got shorter since Rob retired. I can remember in 3.0 that some families couldnt even be brought down because they defended so great. In this version that is impossible. Mainly due to new KA but also hospital/blood/sh timers, villa effectivness reduced and even more attacking bodyguards.
I would have liked to see a little more items added to the market so it's more about choosing the right items instead of now where you need bullets and rp and other things that mainly cost time.
KA might be more fair but its still way, way more easy to kill off a entire family than it was in 3.0 . You can't say its a coincidence that versions got shorter since Rob retired. I can remember in 3.0 that some families couldnt even be brought down because they defended so great. In this version that is impossible. Mainly due to new KA but also hospital/blood/sh timers, villa effectivness reduced and even more attacking bodyguards.
I would have liked to see a little more items added to the market so it's more about choosing the right items instead of now where you need bullets and rp and other things that mainly cost time.
That coincided with those massblooding gangbang stuff.
KCode has a point. If families like Gravano or now Faffie do massblood stuff you have short versions. That's the problem with player mentality.
If you face 5 to 1 or 7 to 1 odds Rob makes no difference whatsoever, you survive 1 more shot. That's about it.
You can replace Rob..
I played 3.0 very actively. With all the new items back then it took around 180,000 to 240,000k bullets to kill a account.
Now the average is around...60,000.
Numbers speak for themselves.
3.0 also had panic room and shizzle. And no, if you had an account knew what you were doing you could kill with 60k. (I had a strong CDC account back then, so I know what I am talking about). On a second note I also survived shots with 60k with my Rob being very much alive after that.
But back then, you had not 5 or 6 guys who hired on you at the same time, because the attacking fams back then did not have that many accounts to throw at you.
As far as I understand this ka, there are some accounts who have survived 180k+ too, without Rob. So KCode is right.
It's a player mentality thing, if you want to gangbang in order to "win" a version, there's nothing the crew can do to stop it.
Well they can revive the players died in those uneven wars and akill the gangbangers, on a second thought I would love to see how many guys would cry then about racist admins. (last suggestion was not serious, so relax kankas).
We are starting an open meeting at IRC, join us in #Stage or http://youtu.be/0uiutN-jgmE
Anonymous (19:38:51 - 21-08)
the main problem with this game are the restrictions. the level up design on family's.
The price for spots and all the locks before/become are a big problem.
And then the DC'S on obay for lackeys...
Which make the rich more richer and unbalance the game more then u can see.
If you can remember why the old 2.1 version so succeed?
Mean reason: every new / old family have the SAME ability.
That means only a account can make the different for a fam.
Not the unlock / booze / level up / buy capo shot / and all that other nonsense rules.
Rules that created for what?? Yes for DELAY.
To keep versions run ''longer''
And that fails so damm much. People will RERANK when its not that hard to come back fast.
And yes in 2.1 we rank manual but we rank and get it all with no dc's needed.
We training KS for the bottle, so we can save the bullets for the REAL wars.
none expensive bg's or villa's.. only the one simple thing u needed.. bullets!
And that was a goal... to get war ready and go. nothing more nothing less.
Offcourse the most will denied this and say'' there have to be a goal to reach''
yes and that shall be wars.
The price for spots and all the locks before/become are a big problem.
And then the DC'S on obay for lackeys...
Which make the rich more richer and unbalance the game more then u can see.
If you can remember why the old 2.1 version so succeed?
Mean reason: every new / old family have the SAME ability.
That means only a account can make the different for a fam.
Not the unlock / booze / level up / buy capo shot / and all that other nonsense rules.
Rules that created for what?? Yes for DELAY.
To keep versions run ''longer''
And that fails so damm much. People will RERANK when its not that hard to come back fast.
And yes in 2.1 we rank manual but we rank and get it all with no dc's needed.
We training KS for the bottle, so we can save the bullets for the REAL wars.
none expensive bg's or villa's.. only the one simple thing u needed.. bullets!
And that was a goal... to get war ready and go. nothing more nothing less.
Offcourse the most will denied this and say'' there have to be a goal to reach''
yes and that shall be wars.
Anonymous at 19:25:28 on 21/08:
you cant see who killed u..
Anonymous at 19:24:23 on 21/08:
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
Anonymous at 19:07:44 on 21/08:
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
Anonymous at 18:32:10 on 21/08:
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
you cant see who killed u..
Anonymous (19:25:28 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 19:24:23 on 21/08:
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
Anonymous at 19:07:44 on 21/08:
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
Anonymous at 18:32:10 on 21/08:
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
you cant see who killed u..
Anonymous (19:24:23 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 19:07:44 on 21/08:
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
Anonymous at 18:32:10 on 21/08:
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
idd right now a WS doesnt make sense anyway since u can just see who killed u after rebirth
hoping this will be fixed soon as well :)
Anonymous (19:07:44 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 18:32:10 on 21/08:
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
I would like to see the end of Joe's special to give out 100% WS.
Giving out WS is bad enough as it is (should be a % chance based on maybe a new stat like Sneak, that can be built up like KS by doing pickpoketing or that type of thing).
So the better your Sneak the less chance you have of being caught with a WS.
I like the idea of sneak attacks and letting the rumours fly, people hitting back at the wrong targets etc.
(more realistic in my opinion as mafia hits are not always claimed by a family)
Also there is a bug currently that shows you who killed you in the ingame message..atleast it was there a few days ago.
Anyway, anonymous killing would add a nice little twist to the game:) . Not a game-changer but a decent idea.
Anonymous (18:58:23 - 21-08)
Just bring rob back!!! u can bring mia too if u want... but bring rob back, and some other bg. I cant remember a better version than 3.0
Here I have a simple solution. If certain families aren't up in the game and we all know what ones we are talking about... Reset the version. Shit reset it three times a week if needed. Anybody who believes it isn't the player base ruining the game is in for a rude awakening. There can only be one don barafranca not 15 don barafrancas. It's going to take a lot more then just an old fag like me to make an account and play like I used to. Sorry to be the bad guy folks. But fuck ur skank omerta wife in the ass. Fuck ur fag Irc channels cause ur bored go read a book ur ruining the game. I blame the players for forgetting its a 1930s Italian mafia nerd mmorpg. Fuck this shit bout making accounts because of "people". This is why we have large pacts playing musical chairs and brain dead lackey accounts made with no strategy or purpose for becoming the next don barafranca themselves. morherfuckers got to wake up from basing and play with some balls!
Anonymous (18:43:21 - 21-08)
new roles, would be nice, like assassin can kill without WS, Tank someone that can tank shots for others, like instead of shooting the don the tank jumps in and you shoot the tank, tanks have greater chance to survive attempts. and than you have maybe something with suppressionfire, instead of doing an killattempt this one can block backfire for 1 try or a set amount of hrs.
Don't misunderstand me.
I never said, "we are done". I've said that with the current major version (4.1) and presented game style, nothing more will change like it was changed in this version (big major changes).
I am sure that there are still lots of things missing and some to be removed, but that's what we've been doing in the background, the so awaited remake.
What I am saying now, is that as my personal opinion, I can't understand the blame on KA and my post was relative to that.
If you don't die easy when you get outnumbered by 5:1 it means or KA is broken or you are a very strong account (Which we managed to see, couple nice accounts surviving and throwing back).
I never said, "we are done". I've said that with the current major version (4.1) and presented game style, nothing more will change like it was changed in this version (big major changes).
I am sure that there are still lots of things missing and some to be removed, but that's what we've been doing in the background, the so awaited remake.
What I am saying now, is that as my personal opinion, I can't understand the blame on KA and my post was relative to that.
If you don't die easy when you get outnumbered by 5:1 it means or KA is broken or you are a very strong account (Which we managed to see, couple nice accounts surviving and throwing back).
[01:48:24] <+Saros`away> ...which wasnt the case with our bloods last vers
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What is the difference this version? Faffie is not connected to some of the fams who has been shooting with em. Like Capitalis, Elite, Andalusia, Laonda etc.
And i remember Faffie targetted Leviticus 1 on 1 last version. Then Righelli, Caedes, Euphoria all countered on em. Version before that they were shot by Fidelitas, Leviticus and Portucalense late night. They then reranked and shot Fidelitas together with trinitorio or something, who had like 4-5brugs. Basically a 1 on 1. Then Marazz and 2-3 other fams countered on them.
Some of the people who keeps whining now, have just been beaten at their own game. Faffie expanded and gained enough influence to actually be able to beat the others at their own game.
Kudos to them.