vaffanculo finished it with 4 families including themselves, it's a major difference compared to regular versions. Also I can't remember them doing a single gangbang that version, I could be wrong on that tho.

Whats your point, Captain Hindsight ?

well Vaffanculo got a lot of help last version, why i don't know, that do only the ones involved.
It could be that vaffanculo just doesn't show their connections openly, afterall its a mafiagame, lying and pretending is given. But don't nail me on that assumption, as it could be false too.
So its hard to tell who is with who and how the various connections are.
But for me it doesn't change the point that it is a struggle to survive, you invest time and money into the accounts and you most certainly don't want to die in a fluke. Every version showed, there are pacts, alliances and gangbangs. Its hard to pin someone down.
Faffie has chosen to be more part of pact and gangbang instead of getting banged version after version. I think this gangbang, pact mentality won't change soon.
Noone wants a dead account afterall.

I doesn't wanted to take the war were krays shot with 7 others onto Fidelitas just to be countered by 14 fams xD. So more or less gangbangs are normal and fams that tried to do 1 on 1 and get gangbanged in return will most likely resort to gangbang too. There might be exceptions, but they are so rare you most certainly will miss it.

The difference now is that Faffie/Gambino/Anomaly/Anarchy are blooded with eachother (Gambino - Anomaly aren't 'officialy' but are 'close' with eachother, but yeah... lol). Add to that Impact and Gravano who are both death now, and you most definitely had a decent sized pactthingy going on.

The difference with us (Vaffanculo, I can't speak for other families or tops here) is that our bloods weren't necessarily connected to eachother, nor did we promote such play to them. I also don't consider those families that you mentioned as being inside the 'pact', they are blooded to individual fams named above and are now basicly just waiting to die or get spared by some miracle or something.

All things considered tho' I did congratulate Fenrir a few days back on a game well played, they made some nice moves and stepped out of the shadow of certain old names for sure, there is no denying that. You would never hear me whining about it, but 'beating' others at their own game? I would beg to differ.

why is that a gangbang?? Janni alliance was 5/6 fams, so not that big of a difference

"As a collective of families opens fire on the Jannisary alliance.The collective consists of; Pavleone, Righelli, Krays, Faffie, Pervoli, Casappa, Monte Carlo and Inzerillo."

So much to Krays won't Gangbang xD.

Campania, Fidelitas, Leviticus, Marazzino, Pistoleros, Provenzano, Righelli, Vittoria -> Anarchy, Solo

[01:48:17] <+Saros`away> a pact is certain families that are all blooded to eachother
[01:48:24] <+Saros`away> ...which wasnt the case with our bloods last vers
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What is the difference this version? Faffie is not connected to some of the fams who has been shooting with em. Like Capitalis, Elite, Andalusia, Laonda etc.

And i remember Faffie targetted Leviticus 1 on 1 last version. Then Righelli, Caedes, Euphoria all countered on em. Version before that they were shot by Fidelitas, Leviticus and Portucalense late night. They then reranked and shot Fidelitas together with trinitorio or something, who had like 4-5brugs. Basically a 1 on 1. Then Marazz and 2-3 other fams countered on them.

Some of the people who keeps whining now, have just been beaten at their own game. Faffie expanded and gained enough influence to actually be able to beat the others at their own game.

Kudos to them.

.. Your so wrong with that :")

you would also need to know what the other guy (target) his bg setup is. Full attack would not die on a full deff target, but he would get killed by a balanced setup

its easy, you need attack to kill, you need def to live, go figure it out

annoying bug.. no wonder ppl knew I shot them..

i hear alot of ppl using 2att 3deff, most off m survived atleast 1 attack, and some took their attacker in BF.

But it rly depends on the attacker to. If you wanna be safe? go full def :P

can some people show how they trained there bg's and what they survived/killed with those bg's settings?

KA is perfect and Rob is very bad solution , people who wants Rob are prolly lackey account or dupe with 0,00003% online time and wanna more security for there account or dupe . So fuck off with Rob , KA is very nice for strong account . I have it acc which was hunted by 6 or 7 fams and survive a 2 days and take down 6 people ...so do it more group crimes give a bit more time in game and you will have it strong acc . 3 hours 12 hours 3 days alarms works fine for me ...

That sounds strange. Wasn't the point of killing always that you coud choose wether your target knew who shot or not? I have to admit that I never shoot anonymous during wars, but even then...the option's there for a reason.

this was an awesome idea and well done for listening to us.

3.0 also had panic room and shizzle. And no, if you had an account knew what you were doing you could kill with 60k. (I had a strong CDC account back then, so I know what I am talking about). On a second note I also survived shots with 60k with my Rob being very much alive after that.
But back then, you had not 5 or 6 guys who hired on you at the same time, because the attacking fams back then did not have that many accounts to throw at you.

As far as I understand this ka, there are some accounts who have survived 180k+ too, without Rob. So KCode is right.
It's a player mentality thing, if you want to gangbang in order to "win" a version, there's nothing the crew can do to stop it.
Well they can revive the players died in those uneven wars and akill the gangbangers, on a second thought I would love to see how many guys would cry then about racist admins. (last suggestion was not serious, so relax kankas).

We are starting an open meeting at IRC, join us in #Stage or http://youtu.be/0uiutN-jgmE

the main problem with this game are the restrictions. the level up design on family's.
The price for spots and all the locks before/become are a big problem.
And then the DC'S on obay for lackeys...
Which make the rich more richer and unbalance the game more then u can see.

If you can remember why the old 2.1 version so succeed?
Mean reason: every new / old family have the SAME ability.
That means only a account can make the different for a fam.
Not the unlock / booze / level up / buy capo shot / and all that other nonsense rules.
Rules that created for what?? Yes for DELAY.
To keep versions run ''longer''

And that fails so damm much. People will RERANK when its not that hard to come back fast.
And yes in 2.1 we rank manual but we rank and get it all with no dc's needed.
We training KS for the bottle, so we can save the bullets for the REAL wars.
none expensive bg's or villa's.. only the one simple thing u needed.. bullets!

And that was a goal... to get war ready and go. nothing more nothing less.

Offcourse the most will denied this and say'' there have to be a goal to reach''
yes and that shall be wars.