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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (14:45:04 - 21-08)
KA might be more fair but its still way, way more easy to kill off a entire family than it was in 3.0 . You can't say its a coincidence that versions got shorter since Rob retired. I can remember in 3.0 that some families couldnt even be brought down because they defended so great. In this version that is impossible. Mainly due to new KA but also hospital/blood/sh timers, villa effectivness reduced and even more attacking bodyguards.
I would have liked to see a little more items added to the market so it's more about choosing the right items instead of now where you need bullets and rp and other things that mainly cost time.
I would have liked to see a little more items added to the market so it's more about choosing the right items instead of now where you need bullets and rp and other things that mainly cost time.
Anonymous (14:26:41 - 21-08)
Sadnesss at 14:15:30 on 21/08:
people are not complaining about ka ,is complaining about they are killed bye dupes...when you will do something about that?this version is win by dupes families you are happy now?when you will do something about dupes people will comeback..until then let the dupes to play.and remove ks because is for nothing just put values there for ap and dp
KCode at 13:57:33 on 21/08:
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
people are not complaining about ka ,is complaining about they are killed bye dupes...when you will do something about that?this version is win by dupes families you are happy now?when you will do something about dupes people will comeback..until then let the dupes to play.and remove ks because is for nothing just put values there for ap and dp
maybe they should legalize dupes for everyone, as a solution
and I see KCode saying "we give you tools"
but the greatest tool in this game is lackeys, and I'm not really sure if they're really providing that tool to the players in a reasonable way.
maybe it was typo for "we sell you tools"
good work on KA though
Anonymous (14:22:05 - 21-08)
lets hope coccada and the rest can kill faffie tonight
Anonymous (14:19:09 - 21-08)
Sadnesss at 14:15:30 on 21/08:
people are not complaining about ka ,is complaining about they are killed bye dupes...when you will do something about that?this version is win by dupes families you are happy now?when you will do something about dupes people will comeback..until then let the dupes to play.and remove ks because is for nothing just put values there for ap and dp
KCode at 13:57:33 on 21/08:
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
people are not complaining about ka ,is complaining about they are killed bye dupes...when you will do something about that?this version is win by dupes families you are happy now?when you will do something about dupes people will comeback..until then let the dupes to play.and remove ks because is for nothing just put values there for ap and dp
yeah, revives for everyone, cause everyone has dupes. Even the dupes complaining they get killed by dupes ;-).
Sadnesss (14:15:30 - 21-08)
KCode at 13:57:33 on 21/08:
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
people are not complaining about ka ,is complaining about they are killed bye dupes...when you will do something about that?this version is win by dupes families you are happy now?when you will do something about dupes people will comeback..until then let the dupes to play.and remove ks because is for nothing just put values there for ap and dp
Fenrir at 14:00:25 on 21/08:
The KA is great. _O_
KCode at 13:57:33 on 21/08:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
o/
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
o/
The KA is great. _O_
KCode at 13:57:33 on 21/08:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
o/
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
o/
The KA is great. _O_
[ex-player opinion]:
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
I find it hilarious that people keep complaining on KA or anything else when the biggest joke here is the amount of number of families up at the time resets are forced to come.
If you still prefer to blame the game for not being balanced at this point than looking at own mistakes, it's your choice but there won't be much more changes from now on.
o/
[/ex-player opinion]
(This is nothing but my personal opinion, as an ex-player. Don't assume it as a dev opinion)
[dev-speaking]:
We did our job, we give you tools and at the moment KA is not even defender neither attacker friendly, it's account strength friendly.
We are organizing a meeting today, I will give you more details on IRC global message.
Anonymous (13:42:14 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 12:39:30 on 21/08:
it will not, people will always use an option that if possible won't include losing to many accounts.
Therefor the gangbangs, shared risks.
it will not, people will always use an option that if possible won't include losing to many accounts.
Therefor the gangbangs, shared risks.
Some of those families will show they can do smaller wars for sure, the gangbangs basicly always come from the same people. As been said before, Krays for example refuses to participate in warplans that are a gangbang.
Anonymous (12:39:30 - 21-08)
it will not, people will always use an option that if possible won't include losing to many accounts.
Therefor the gangbangs, shared risks.
Therefor the gangbangs, shared risks.
Anonymous (12:35:58 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 11:06:01 on 21/08:
There are several families that stopped playing in pacts tho. Krays is one of the families that never was in a pact.Vaffanculo left the old pact to play their own way last version, Leviticus really downscaled their bloodlist, so did Provenzano. I think even Marazzino who used to always have a lot of sisters and bloods has really made a change in that.
The people who ruiin it for others are seen this version, Jannisary still plays in big pact and big bloodlists. So did Gravano side, a big network of bloods and non shoot agreements. I was hoping Faffie would scale down after Gravano and Liberta went down (the leaders of the group) but we still saw them shoot in very big groups and gangbang people. It seems like they are not even going to try to win this version but probably try to mass-lock it.
Anonymous at 10:01:16 on 21/08:
+1 for Kcode's mistake to change the KA in the middle of a version. ofc this can be explained as the admins have such a need for dc's that they don't bother letting us start versions which are not properly working. At this point we the players and the dc buyers who finance the game react like morons. We all start every single version and we have given the impression that no matter how shitty and unfinished the version is gona be we will finance it....
As far as the length of the version is concerned i don't think its a matter of KA or anything else it is a matter of players attitude. Current tops have adopted a gangbang style of game and that's the we play it. In my point of view if the tops remain the same we will see the same style of game again and again and again.
Anonymous at 23:29:10 on 20/08:
i actually remember when we used to do 3-4 preshots with 14-17k bullets to kill 1 offline brug... but then there where no lackeys so the true number of accounts we needed to shoot was much much lower..if i had to judge gravanos action i think stupid or bored is the right word for it they could have gone really good under this situation with their bloods and fams who are around
Anonymous at 22:55:10 on 20/08:
+1
Anonymous at 21:53:11 on 20/08:
the funny thing its the fact that bbest war version was gravano vs bellona , with old ka.
biggest mistake from kcode, was the change in midle of the version, just made a potencial good and long version finishing within two weeks
the funny thing its the fact that bbest war version was gravano vs bellona , with old ka.
biggest mistake from kcode, was the change in midle of the version, just made a potencial good and long version finishing within two weeks
+1
+1 for Kcode's mistake to change the KA in the middle of a version. ofc this can be explained as the admins have such a need for dc's that they don't bother letting us start versions which are not properly working. At this point we the players and the dc buyers who finance the game react like morons. We all start every single version and we have given the impression that no matter how shitty and unfinished the version is gona be we will finance it....
As far as the length of the version is concerned i don't think its a matter of KA or anything else it is a matter of players attitude. Current tops have adopted a gangbang style of game and that's the we play it. In my point of view if the tops remain the same we will see the same style of game again and again and again.
There are several families that stopped playing in pacts tho. Krays is one of the families that never was in a pact.Vaffanculo left the old pact to play their own way last version, Leviticus really downscaled their bloodlist, so did Provenzano. I think even Marazzino who used to always have a lot of sisters and bloods has really made a change in that.
The people who ruiin it for others are seen this version, Jannisary still plays in big pact and big bloodlists. So did Gravano side, a big network of bloods and non shoot agreements. I was hoping Faffie would scale down after Gravano and Liberta went down (the leaders of the group) but we still saw them shoot in very big groups and gangbang people. It seems like they are not even going to try to win this version but probably try to mass-lock it.
i hope you are correct on this but i seriously doubt it, if Janni and Gravano are the only fams ruining the game they can be brought down easily next version right from start but again i still believe this will not solve the gangbang style adopted ...
Anonymous (11:36:10 - 21-08)
Jans at 08:16:23 on 21/08:
[21:59:18] * Now talking in #4.0
[21:59:18] * Topic is 'We will organize 4an open discussion with players soon to discuss about main aspects of re-ranking and what needs to change!'
When will this be, does anyone know more about it ?
[21:59:18] * Now talking in #4.0
[21:59:18] * Topic is 'We will organize 4an open discussion with players soon to discuss about main aspects of re-ranking and what needs to change!'
When will this be, does anyone know more about it ?
Guess something about credits but we all know Brando decides on that one. They made the mistake thinking that a attack-favoured KA would be welcomed by the players. Maybe that is true but it does shorten versions massively.
Anonymous (11:06:01 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 10:01:16 on 21/08:
+1 for Kcode's mistake to change the KA in the middle of a version. ofc this can be explained as the admins have such a need for dc's that they don't bother letting us start versions which are not properly working. At this point we the players and the dc buyers who finance the game react like morons. We all start every single version and we have given the impression that no matter how shitty and unfinished the version is gona be we will finance it....
As far as the length of the version is concerned i don't think its a matter of KA or anything else it is a matter of players attitude. Current tops have adopted a gangbang style of game and that's the we play it. In my point of view if the tops remain the same we will see the same style of game again and again and again.
Anonymous at 23:29:10 on 20/08:
i actually remember when we used to do 3-4 preshots with 14-17k bullets to kill 1 offline brug... but then there where no lackeys so the true number of accounts we needed to shoot was much much lower..if i had to judge gravanos action i think stupid or bored is the right word for it they could have gone really good under this situation with their bloods and fams who are around
Anonymous at 22:55:10 on 20/08:
+1
Anonymous at 21:53:11 on 20/08:
the funny thing its the fact that bbest war version was gravano vs bellona , with old ka.
biggest mistake from kcode, was the change in midle of the version, just made a potencial good and long version finishing within two weeks
the funny thing its the fact that bbest war version was gravano vs bellona , with old ka.
biggest mistake from kcode, was the change in midle of the version, just made a potencial good and long version finishing within two weeks
+1
+1 for Kcode's mistake to change the KA in the middle of a version. ofc this can be explained as the admins have such a need for dc's that they don't bother letting us start versions which are not properly working. At this point we the players and the dc buyers who finance the game react like morons. We all start every single version and we have given the impression that no matter how shitty and unfinished the version is gona be we will finance it....
As far as the length of the version is concerned i don't think its a matter of KA or anything else it is a matter of players attitude. Current tops have adopted a gangbang style of game and that's the we play it. In my point of view if the tops remain the same we will see the same style of game again and again and again.
There are several families that stopped playing in pacts tho. Krays is one of the families that never was in a pact.Vaffanculo left the old pact to play their own way last version, Leviticus really downscaled their bloodlist, so did Provenzano. I think even Marazzino who used to always have a lot of sisters and bloods has really made a change in that.
The people who ruiin it for others are seen this version, Jannisary still plays in big pact and big bloodlists. So did Gravano side, a big network of bloods and non shoot agreements. I was hoping Faffie would scale down after Gravano and Liberta went down (the leaders of the group) but we still saw them shoot in very big groups and gangbang people. It seems like they are not even going to try to win this version but probably try to mass-lock it.
Anonymous (10:01:16 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 23:29:10 on 20/08:
i actually remember when we used to do 3-4 preshots with 14-17k bullets to kill 1 offline brug... but then there where no lackeys so the true number of accounts we needed to shoot was much much lower..if i had to judge gravanos action i think stupid or bored is the right word for it they could have gone really good under this situation with their bloods and fams who are around
Anonymous at 22:55:10 on 20/08:
+1
Anonymous at 21:53:11 on 20/08:
the funny thing its the fact that bbest war version was gravano vs bellona , with old ka.
biggest mistake from kcode, was the change in midle of the version, just made a potencial good and long version finishing within two weeks
the funny thing its the fact that bbest war version was gravano vs bellona , with old ka.
biggest mistake from kcode, was the change in midle of the version, just made a potencial good and long version finishing within two weeks
+1
+1 for Kcode's mistake to change the KA in the middle of a version. ofc this can be explained as the admins have such a need for dc's that they don't bother letting us start versions which are not properly working. At this point we the players and the dc buyers who finance the game react like morons. We all start every single version and we have given the impression that no matter how shitty and unfinished the version is gona be we will finance it....
As far as the length of the version is concerned i don't think its a matter of KA or anything else it is a matter of players attitude. Current tops have adopted a gangbang style of game and that's the we play it. In my point of view if the tops remain the same we will see the same style of game again and again and again.
Anonymous (09:42:31 - 21-08)
Nice play Anarchy, a token gesture on the winning side on most wars without going full out.
And now you have the most Strength and most Weatlh. Sneaky.
The version is now yours to lose.
And now you have the most Strength and most Weatlh. Sneaky.
The version is now yours to lose.
Anonymous (08:31:22 - 21-08)
317 (61.32%) Yes
200 (38.68%) No
how much it needed to be for reset, 70%?
200 (38.68%) No
how much it needed to be for reset, 70%?
[21:59:18] * Now talking in #4.0
[21:59:18] * Topic is 'We will organize 4an open discussion with players soon to discuss about main aspects of re-ranking and what needs to change!'
When will this be, does anyone know more about it ?
[21:59:18] * Topic is 'We will organize 4an open discussion with players soon to discuss about main aspects of re-ranking and what needs to change!'
When will this be, does anyone know more about it ?
Anonymous (04:33:27 - 21-08)
Anonymous at 22:53:45 on 20/08:
im an active player, put effort in my first account. did some manual raking and lackeyd alot. I bought several dc's in order to fix my account with earned money. I died and now i want to rerank, but im not willing to put the effort i put in the first time. I buy dc with ingame money and rank up laid back.
At this point i cant rerank as there is no supply of dc. The ones that appear on obay go fpr 10mil+, not doable for me (wanting to keep lackeys running).
i think this is the reason few people feel like reranking
im an active player, put effort in my first account. did some manual raking and lackeyd alot. I bought several dc's in order to fix my account with earned money. I died and now i want to rerank, but im not willing to put the effort i put in the first time. I buy dc with ingame money and rank up laid back.
At this point i cant rerank as there is no supply of dc. The ones that appear on obay go fpr 10mil+, not doable for me (wanting to keep lackeys running).
i think this is the reason few people feel like reranking
+1
Anonymous (00:47:30 - 21-08)
Fenrir at 21:46:54 on 20/08:
People can pretend to be saints and not "massblood", bit still they'll have fams joining every war or countering any attack vs them. Secret bloods/alliances still exist, no point declining it. Just accept it. Accusations against us forming "a pact" seems wrong, we were a bunch of fams who wanted the same thing. My arguments may be thin, but again, im drunk!
Fenrir, drinking heavily - signing out. My new ing is Braindead, incase any "faffie-suiciders" want to know. o/
People can pretend to be saints and not "massblood", bit still they'll have fams joining every war or countering any attack vs them. Secret bloods/alliances still exist, no point declining it. Just accept it. Accusations against us forming "a pact" seems wrong, we were a bunch of fams who wanted the same thing. My arguments may be thin, but again, im drunk!
Fenrir, drinking heavily - signing out. My new ing is Braindead, incase any "faffie-suiciders" want to know. o/
I have been in the decision making channels of some wars this version, the only reason some families seeked help from other families is because there were leaks that showed a gangbang was coming up. Some of those families jumping wouldn't even be shooting in 1 war on 1 side if they weren't gonna get shot by 5 families. It is the reaction of families that have no other choise.
You keep saying you guys are a collective of families that by chance just have common interest. What interest was that and why does it need to be a gangbang? Couldn't some of those families just handle business themself? Last but not least, you have 4 bloods, since the common interest has been accomplished, I assume you guys will end this version with only your bloods right? The other 5 attacking fans can be shot at aswell from now on since there is no common interest anymore.
KA might be more fair but its still way, way more easy to kill off a entire family than it was in 3.0 . You can't say its a coincidence that versions got shorter since Rob retired. I can remember in 3.0 that some families couldnt even be brought down because they defended so great. In this version that is impossible. Mainly due to new KA but also hospital/blood/sh timers, villa effectivness reduced and even more attacking bodyguards.
I would have liked to see a little more items added to the market so it's more about choosing the right items instead of now where you need bullets and rp and other things that mainly cost time.
Older versions than 3.0 lasted longer than a year and there was no Rob back then, also you could die in one shot in those versions. I don't think that is the reason of short versions.
In fact the only main reason is the attitude of players, the aim of every family should be to end on top, last man standing. Right now the mentality of many family tops is not even close to the winning mentality.