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Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Anonymous (19:02:18 - 01-04)
V` at 18:51:03 on 01/04:
Admins control the reset meter!
It wont let me vote NO for reset :(
When I try to vote no, this is the message they give me: There was an error while loading this page. A report was sent to our devs.
And yes, I have tried this many times! Admins don't allow people to vote NO for reset lmao
Admins control the reset meter!
It wont let me vote NO for reset :(
When I try to vote no, this is the message they give me: There was an error while loading this page. A report was sent to our devs.
And yes, I have tried this many times! Admins don't allow people to vote NO for reset lmao
V` (18:51:03 - 01-04)
Admins control the reset meter!
It wont let me vote NO for reset :(
When I try to vote no, this is the message they give me: There was an error while loading this page. A report was sent to our devs.
And yes, I have tried this many times! Admins don't allow people to vote NO for reset lmao
It wont let me vote NO for reset :(
When I try to vote no, this is the message they give me: There was an error while loading this page. A report was sent to our devs.
And yes, I have tried this many times! Admins don't allow people to vote NO for reset lmao
'v (18:45:22 - 01-04)
V` at 16:51:46 on 01/04:
Stop pasting here with same nick and stop running ur mouth. So far everything that user 'v has posted has been rather stupid and pretty noob information. So go back to ur hole and stay there.
:w
'v at 16:20:10 on 01/04:
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
:w
i will do anything i want, i don't post with the same nick, you must be retarded if you can't distinguish the difference. it's easy to write that my post are stupid but it will be better if you enlighten me with something specific.
you are writing all the time bull shit, you aren't nothing more than a noob who pretend that you know the game, that you have all the informations and that you are great player etc.....
Anonymous (18:19:59 - 01-04)
Finally a good version with all maffia elements in it and all people wine about is RESET.
Anonymous (18:16:04 - 01-04)
Anonymous at 17:44:27 on 01/04:
+
pikachuuu at 16:25:22 on 01/04:
push the fuckin reset button.
push the fuckin reset button.
Just because you guys died and give up and don't want to rerank doesn't mean others don't want to play on. You decided you give up, we are still reranking to play on.
Wait a couple months and you can get your reset aswell.
V` (16:51:46 - 01-04)
'v at 16:20:10 on 01/04:
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
:w
Anonymous (16:25:26 - 01-04)
'v at 16:20:10 on 01/04:
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
fidelitas will die tonight and the winner supposed to be a surviving fam.
'v (16:22:09 - 01-04)
resetplease at 14:16:43 on 01/04:
ROFLmuh other fams deserve more then Vittoria, who shot few small fams and betrayed the bigger ones
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
'v at 14:04:33 on 01/04:
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
Anonymous at 13:54:30 on 01/04:
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
Anonymous at 12:00:28 on 01/04:
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Wachterke at 11:55:52 on 01/04:
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
Anonymous at 11:39:37 on 01/04:
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
Anonymous at 11:30:07 on 01/04:
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
Anonymous at 11:20:04 on 01/04:
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
Anonymous at 11:18:09 on 01/04:
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
Wachterke at 11:11:06 on 01/04:
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
Grannqe at 10:20:25 on 01/04:
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
krays and spinoza for winners :(, what they have done on this round?
'v (16:20:10 - 01-04)
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
campania as winner. one fam which had be hijacked, mate please lets be more serious.
V` (16:11:23 - 01-04)
@Resetplease who posted this:
ROFL
muh other fams deserve more then Vittoria, who shot few small fams and betrayed the bigger ones
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
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Wow... that was REALLY FUNNY. Krays/Licavoli/spinoza corner ... please stop joking. LOL.
Krays ? What did they do to deserve to win this version? They had a huge family and got downed in a war where they started out as attackers.. same goes for licavoli LOL
and Spinoza... :') please. Spinoza is dead because of their actions this version. They choose the wrong side and the wrong families to work with and bought into their bullshit, they also convinced valerio and samagono that shooting righelli was good for them. So Spinoza is far from winning the version, they simply faced the consequences of their actions and brought valerio + samagono with them.
If you are going to continue to talk about who won this version... Click The Final Stand article and choose one of the 10 families that shot on Ascension/Signoria. Because if we did not shoot on Ascension/Signoria... who would be version winner? They would. So please, stop with stupid posts..
ROFL
muh other fams deserve more then Vittoria, who shot few small fams and betrayed the bigger ones
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
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Wow... that was REALLY FUNNY. Krays/Licavoli/spinoza corner ... please stop joking. LOL.
Krays ? What did they do to deserve to win this version? They had a huge family and got downed in a war where they started out as attackers.. same goes for licavoli LOL
and Spinoza... :') please. Spinoza is dead because of their actions this version. They choose the wrong side and the wrong families to work with and bought into their bullshit, they also convinced valerio and samagono that shooting righelli was good for them. So Spinoza is far from winning the version, they simply faced the consequences of their actions and brought valerio + samagono with them.
If you are going to continue to talk about who won this version... Click The Final Stand article and choose one of the 10 families that shot on Ascension/Signoria. Because if we did not shoot on Ascension/Signoria... who would be version winner? They would. So please, stop with stupid posts..
Sato (15:58:26 - 01-04)
resetplease at 14:16:43 on 01/04:
ROFLmuh other fams deserve more then Vittoria, who shot few small fams and betrayed the bigger ones
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
'v at 14:04:33 on 01/04:
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
Anonymous at 13:54:30 on 01/04:
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
Anonymous at 12:00:28 on 01/04:
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Wachterke at 11:55:52 on 01/04:
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
Anonymous at 11:39:37 on 01/04:
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
Anonymous at 11:30:07 on 01/04:
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
Anonymous at 11:20:04 on 01/04:
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
Anonymous at 11:18:09 on 01/04:
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
Wachterke at 11:11:06 on 01/04:
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
Grannqe at 10:20:25 on 01/04:
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
Down fams can't win sorry to whine but when youre out, youre out. I still dont think a reset is needed. Go rank again.
Kapow (15:29:43 - 01-04)
Anonymous at 14:49:45 on 01/04:
Kapow where the fuck were you? You were getting tons of disHP and now fight 1 war and started to talk like an authority? fck off to your grave bitch
Kapow at 14:44:53 on 01/04:
0 families deserved to be proclaimed winner of the version. Noone did anything special or anything worthy of mentioning. This version is far too short for anyone to deserve to put a version win on their family page and compare it to what families like conflict did to win their respective versions.
Someone started a good tradition of putting stars on their family page for versions they have won.
If a family from this version wants to put a star on their family page in the future they need to work abit harder.
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Someone started a good tradition of putting stars on their family page for versions they have won.
If a family from this version wants to put a star on their family page in the future they need to work abit harder.
Kapow where the fuck were you? You were getting tons of disHP and now fight 1 war and started to talk like an authority? fck off to your grave bitch
Didn't like what they read on the profile so they send dhps..
Its not about the 1 war.. I dont even take credit for anything but my point is still valid in every post.
+ I dont have any authority i just bitch around cause i can :)
Anonymous (14:49:45 - 01-04)
Kapow at 14:44:53 on 01/04:
0 families deserved to be proclaimed winner of the version. Noone did anything special or anything worthy of mentioning. This version is far too short for anyone to deserve to put a version win on their family page and compare it to what families like conflict did to win their respective versions.
Someone started a good tradition of putting stars on their family page for versions they have won.
If a family from this version wants to put a star on their family page in the future they need to work abit harder.
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Someone started a good tradition of putting stars on their family page for versions they have won.
If a family from this version wants to put a star on their family page in the future they need to work abit harder.
Kapow where the fuck were you? You were getting tons of disHP and now fight 1 war and started to talk like an authority? fck off to your grave bitch
Kapow (14:44:53 - 01-04)
anonymous at 14:18:48 on 01/04:
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Someone started a good tradition of putting stars on their family page for versions they have won.
If a family from this version wants to put a star on their family page in the future they need to work abit harder.
anonymous (14:18:48 - 01-04)
Please dont even mention vittoria as any version winner. They¨ve just gone under the radar of the enemy cause they all have had bigger fish to fry. Then u can just aswell proclaim Campania as version winner aswell :P cause they've shot quite abit too.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
Fidelitas on the other hand has survived numerous attacks on em by smart playing. Worthy winners of the version, as it currently stands. And this is coming from someone that was shot by them.
resetplease (14:16:43 - 01-04)
'v at 14:04:33 on 01/04:
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
Anonymous at 13:54:30 on 01/04:
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
Anonymous at 12:00:28 on 01/04:
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Wachterke at 11:55:52 on 01/04:
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
Anonymous at 11:39:37 on 01/04:
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
Anonymous at 11:30:07 on 01/04:
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
Anonymous at 11:20:04 on 01/04:
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
Anonymous at 11:18:09 on 01/04:
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
Wachterke at 11:11:06 on 01/04:
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
Grannqe at 10:20:25 on 01/04:
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
my vote goes to a family in the krays / licavoli / spinoza corner
'v (14:04:33 - 01-04)
Anonymous at 13:54:30 on 01/04:
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
Anonymous at 12:00:28 on 01/04:
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Wachterke at 11:55:52 on 01/04:
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
Anonymous at 11:39:37 on 01/04:
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
Anonymous at 11:30:07 on 01/04:
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
Anonymous at 11:20:04 on 01/04:
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
Anonymous at 11:18:09 on 01/04:
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
Wachterke at 11:11:06 on 01/04:
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
Grannqe at 10:20:25 on 01/04:
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
Merki & Vittoria won this shit, stop re-ranking people they will kill yall!
lol, are you fucking serieus
why, because they shot all the small fams?
they shot a lot and still they are up so they are winners, i can't think anyone else for this version, do you?
winner? the version isnt over whiners. If fams want to claim victory rank, step up and shoot. Thats what this game is about remember...
mate unfortunately people are n't ranking, it's hard to find a partner for heist, for moc is almost impossible, i don't know if people are waiting to see the result from rom and what will be the decision of the admins but now we are heading to reset so isn't weird to talk about winner.
ofcourse they backstabb ....etc but that doesn't change they are still up and shoot a lot, perhaps they act like that because of the education which has get their leader ;)
i agree that the version is open but majority isn't agree with us.
So, if i can start a fam and i shoot all small fams that means my fam is winner of the vers?
Hmmm, never been that easy to win a version
lets say that they will announce reset when voting will finish , which fam do you think would be winner of version?
Gravano. Oh this version winner, not blame game? Then no idea. I would say Fidelitas, they didn't get downed and the biggest impact on this version.
why they had bigger impact in the game than vittoria? both fams was in the same wars also vittoria had lower number on memebers but they shot same as fidelitas did and maybe more.
so my vote goes at vittoria :)
Ok, reset is coming lads.