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General Comments & Major Rumors section.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Seriously, nobody here thinks the "Mongello" part was offensive to us Marangello people :( and the whatever name is Vaffanculo :@
Anonymous at 19:00:23 on 23/10:
affi side always making their own pact
nothing strange and they dont need conf for it
and making pact with your bloods is not a problem
the problem is some fams like meme vert tempe blabla that trying to enter themselves in this pacts
meme is always like this
but really it doesnt expected from vert
Anonymous at 18:14:45 on 23/10:
Gravano - Messina - Liberta - Monte Carlo (Vinci+Presi) this version they had Demento / Sama / Sindi in a more central role.
Original pact: Conflict - Gravano - Liberta - Vinci - Messina/Mongello/whatevername - Righelli (though)
Righelli was not a central pillar for the pact. Only Conflict is really gone. From the original cast.
I did not mention Lucchese, Presidential as pact founders, since I am not entirely sure they both played at the birthing version.
Gravano - Messina - Liberta - Monte Carlo (Vinci+Presi) this version they had Demento / Sama / Sindi in a more central role.
Original pact: Conflict - Gravano - Liberta - Vinci - Messina/Mongello/whatevername - Righelli (though)
Righelli was not a central pillar for the pact. Only Conflict is really gone. From the original cast.
I did not mention Lucchese, Presidential as pact founders, since I am not entirely sure they both played at the birthing version.
nothing strange and they dont need conf for it
and making pact with your bloods is not a problem
the problem is some fams like meme vert tempe blabla that trying to enter themselves in this pacts
meme is always like this
but really it doesnt expected from vert
It's funny how you people talk about this really...
1st of all at start of version I had no idea who Monte Carlo is, for sure it's not Vincitori or whatever you people call it. Vincitori is retired and there is 99% chance it will stay retired pretty much forever cause tops who managed Vinci from 2.9-3.0 moved on away from game. Trenzo, Joellin, asli, Lovendetta, Vapura, me etc. are all retired and there pretty much every story of Vincitori you all loved to hate ends. I know good enough that no one of these people plans to return to game and play cause everyone is busy doing something else. You can all talk about Vinci being hidden or changing names or whatever but only truth is Vincitori as family is not playing anymore. Ofc with player base Vinci had and all friendships and trust people got with each other inside Vinci it is most likely they will join new (different) families together or play together. As I stated up Vincitori you all loved to hate is pretty much gone forever, you can breath safely now and lower down ur pitchforks for witch hunt...
Original pact?
Wanna talk about pacts, I'll tell you all what original pact was. It was Kerberos - Vincitori in 2.9 where I personally realized how strong relation u can build with only trust to one family. All this pacting and shit you all talk about comes mostly from 3.0 where Vaffanculo blooded Kerberos Vincitori and Gravano, we had no idea really who Vaffanculo is nor can we trusted them on start but we risked it and it turned out better than we ever expected. When you are winning and dominating version things change so did relationships between family.
Pact is not between families, it's between people and it's not even a pact, it's bond with trust and friendship... I wont overreact when I say I never really talked to anyone from Conflict about plans except with Rbaiao and eviL, manhell from Gravano, Bazjuuh and Vincej from Vaffanculo, MafiaTurk, SiN and Phenky from Liberta...
That's where your pact is, cause these people stood by their word given and did not try to break it, or abuse it they played open and built trust. That's what 90% of families lack... They all are run by fear, and they talk/do anything in order to survive. Your word as family top is most valuable thing you can have and trust to build and be sure not to break it easily. You can make games, and twist words and shit but be sure that in the end all of that will backfire on you and only people who you were true with will stay with you.
For all the time you guys talked about Conflict - Vinci - Righelli pact, hell I barely even knew Righelli guys, did I want to shoot them, yes pretty fucking bad cause imo they're pretty much haters of family for whom I used to play, but it was never my priority. When we played, we played to win, we didn't try to make enemies every step of the way, but we did. However it's really ironic how you people cry about pacts and shit when maybe 5% of you so called tops have real idea what's going on in game. Most of tops these days are nothing but jokes, who can't do shit but either gather group of rankers or rank fast. Half of you doesn't deserve any respect, or even family up.
This game is left with not more than a few real tops who know how to play, and most of those tops are on same side, it's not pact problem... Problem is all of you, problem is even before so called "pact" was formed families were still doing same shit. Before 3.2 lets wait for Affi and Conflict to kill each other so we can kill whoever survives, if we don't succeed well pretty fucking bad will wait till reset comes. After Conf and Affi stopped killing each other, it was like we need to kill one of those two or we will die.
To tell you truth, you (Violenza, Leviticus, Gambino, Bruinsma, Tempestuoso, Kurosawa and many more) created this. Bond that these families built was created in 3.2 when you made prolly stupidest decision in last few version. That 1 war created trust and bond that was very fragile at those days between Conflict and us, and from there it was easier to do everything.
I know, we made same mistake back in 2.7 when Affinitas and Conflict etc. were enemies, every time we would fight them, they would get closer and there for stronger.
Families who blood family close to pact, just fucking realized that there are very damn few trustworthy families in this game, and they would rather work with those who they can trust then get headaches with bunch of joker families.
Frankly I feel proud of what I and few others created when I see how much you cry and simply don't understand basics of this game. And for all of you who talk about other families trying to join pact, no one is trying to join it, there is no way to join it... I wrote to you in this wall of text what pact is, be smart and create one yourself or break it, but brute force isn't right tool for that... But I seriously doubt most of you are capable of that. You need to be ready to lose in order to win.
Anonymous (20:45:35 - 23-10)
I guess it's Psychonymous on Cristeria
Anonymous (20:42:09 - 23-10)
krays was nottes blood right? Pentagram shot Notte, right?...I mean...
Me (20:39:33 - 23-10)
war cristeria
Anonymous (20:39:22 - 23-10)
WAR!!
Anonymous (20:25:58 - 23-10)
Krays + Purga + Vertigo ----> Psychonomous
Anonymous (20:23:52 - 23-10)
Krays Full Online :D
Purga + Vertigo ---> Krays
Purga + Vertigo ---> Krays
Anonymous (20:00:14 - 23-10)
So...Krays, what are you gonna do?
Anonymous (19:34:31 - 23-10)
Kskforever at 16:36:24 on 23/10:
just to inform folks..
Vogue will not shoot any fam dont believe in rumors
just to inform folks..
Vogue will not shoot any fam dont believe in rumors
Vogue on Faffie because of the object earlier, true story.
Anonymous (19:00:23 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 18:14:45 on 23/10:
Gravano - Messina - Liberta - Monte Carlo (Vinci+Presi) this version they had Demento / Sama / Sindi in a more central role.
Original pact: Conflict - Gravano - Liberta - Vinci - Messina/Mongello/whatevername - Righelli (though)
Righelli was not a central pillar for the pact. Only Conflict is really gone. From the original cast.
I did not mention Lucchese, Presidential as pact founders, since I am not entirely sure they both played at the birthing version.
Anonymous at 17:48:35 on 23/10:
+1
Anonymous at 15:39:00 on 23/10:
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
+1
Gravano - Messina - Liberta - Monte Carlo (Vinci+Presi) this version they had Demento / Sama / Sindi in a more central role.
Original pact: Conflict - Gravano - Liberta - Vinci - Messina/Mongello/whatevername - Righelli (though)
Righelli was not a central pillar for the pact. Only Conflict is really gone. From the original cast.
I did not mention Lucchese, Presidential as pact founders, since I am not entirely sure they both played at the birthing version.
nothing strange and they dont need conf for it
and making pact with your bloods is not a problem
the problem is some fams like meme vert tempe blabla that trying to enter themselves in this pacts
meme is always like this
but really it doesnt expected from vert
Anonymous (18:14:45 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 17:48:35 on 23/10:
+1
Anonymous at 15:39:00 on 23/10:
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
+1
Gravano - Messina - Liberta - Monte Carlo (Vinci+Presi) this version they had Demento / Sama / Sindi in a more central role.
Original pact: Conflict - Gravano - Liberta - Vinci - Messina/Mongello/whatevername - Righelli (though)
Righelli was not a central pillar for the pact. Only Conflict is really gone. From the original cast.
I did not mention Lucchese, Presidential as pact founders, since I am not entirely sure they both played at the birthing version.
Anonymous (17:48:35 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 15:39:00 on 23/10:
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
+1
Kskforever (16:36:24 - 23-10)
just to inform folks..
Vogue will not shoot any fam dont believe in rumors
Vogue will not shoot any fam dont believe in rumors
Anonymous (16:20:42 - 23-10)
Anonymous at 16:17:21 on 23/10:
krays what you gonna do when liberta&pentagram co. hit you, and monte carlo doesnt help bcz they have blood both side?
krays what you gonna do when liberta&pentagram co. hit you, and monte carlo doesnt help bcz they have blood both side?
Time i guess will show, but honestly i don`t think it will happen until they decide let`s close version
we won etc etc now let`s Shoot the others fams so we can get a reset :D
Anonymous (16:17:21 - 23-10)
krays what you gonna do when liberta&pentagram co. hit you, and monte carlo doesnt help bcz they have blood both side?
Anonymous (15:39:00 - 23-10)
I thought main pact fams were conflict, vincitory and even righelli, those fams dont play anymore, and there is still a pact ? Are you guys calling pact to any group of bloods that put your fam down, or i am missing something ?
Anonymous (15:08:31 - 23-10)
FlowzZ at 14:54:13 on 23/10:
My apologies then , but you aint getting nowhere if u believe in anony bashing posts on fams :')
Anonymous at 14:44:10 on 23/10:
Wow, noobosawa does something stupid to boost their egos instead of doing something smart?
And you don't think, that Nazdrovia will keep up to their side of a bargain?
Don't spoil all the surprises around fams for us. :)
FlowzZ at 12:18:35 on 23/10:
First of all its not a pact its just fams with loyal and understanding bloods but nowadays they pray your bloods not to jump and when they do they are called lickers, different from 3.2 when turkuz levi gamb vio etc. were shooting together and u had turkuz tops here claiming they sort of pact and were jerking to that situation thinking it would never last (will get to that later ) , and no its not the numbers of fams that we (im in grav so u know) blood, let me give u a fast example on how this partially started , we finished #1 3.0 and in good cooperation with krays and dig (sort of winning , aint claiming it since there are a billion arguments on how a fam can win a version) , in 3.1 we went different ways and straight away became targets of diff fams , on that time u had two sides 'on traditional beef' with each other , conflict side (with invo+crist) and vinci/grav one , and also fams like nazd (on that time)and a bunch of others who were used to that style of game just waiting for those two big blocks shoot each other and then come shoot the left overs and claim victory , then you are left humiliated for giving such effort to this game and for your position wasted to it just so some low lifer can shoot you empty or damaged (same as will happen to us this version since we killed so many targets and kind of overdid ourselves in such early stage) , ok 3.1 over now comes 3.2 , after seeing how those people like to play and just wait for their big chance , we blooded with conf and they started panicking , this is the gangbang they planned on us news.omertabeyond.com/30 , failed due to KA favoring defenders side (lucky us) , but it didnt end in there since attackers were still in that proportion even on second attack and even third . we can skip versions since we were on/off in those and jump to this current one , we started after pauses and had lots of request from fams to blood since politics changed etc. there again first targets of those fams , levi co were supposed to shoot we got the info and shot first , not our fault their bloods didnt jump neither the fams that were supposed to join their attack on some of us (im not talking on 10 fams here no) , just grav alone shot 30+ targets in those two wars of that day , then you have the so called organized attack on us without so much casualties as expected , also AGAIN not our fault kuro (no idea what they did or how they did) but sort of sold the attackers and made it obvious that they just want to shoot meme+ , nazd feels betrayed and offers nonshoot and promises something ( which i know they wont keep its nazd after all ) , leaving the remaining attackers to get downed by those remaining attackers we had left. I can go on and on but i am finishing this by telling you that its not our fault we manage to build the trust of other people by standing up for our bloods , building a decent fam , and loving to shoot . after all we've been playing this game for so long , whats there to be lost. i tried not to involve hate/bash/disrespect in my comment and hopefully left it some way that we can debate over it (OB news needs it too )
Anonymous at 11:43:02 on 23/10:
well FlowzZ i put the effort to explain you what i mean. so maybe you could do the same. i think i gave a decent view on the current situation. tell me where you disagree, so we can have a debat that is relevant in stead of all the flaming and bashing on this site.
FlowzZ at 11:35:42 on 23/10:
We've been through this a lot of times i'm not even gonna bother explaining how game got into this point , but so u know since we are at this version , same were about to happen to 'pact' fams if they didnt shoot first , and idk who said before Panna or someone that be happy that these fams shoot bullets , i myself give up on some version when fams who didnt shoot a bullet and hugged all version long come at top and claim victory by cleaning left over fams .
Anonymous at 10:43:13 on 23/10:
well for starters this following sutiation, at this point this side (so called pact) has blooded so many fams over the years. that you kinda need half omerta to take them down. if you look at previous versions this only happend once (last version) and i doubt they will let this happen again. after this happend it was a nice open version with options for everyone.
on top of that, its hard to organise wars against pact because because of their bloodingstratagy you need a shitload of fams to kill them (this is hard to organise, because onlike pact, other fams refuse to participate in this massblooding). so in order to kill them other fams need to work with fams they also consider enemies. Result: fams who have the balls to stand up against this huge pact, go on useless missions (Destination suicide, Mysterious useless attack).
And this pacting is not a problem of today it started a few versions ago, and they had succes with it obviously. at this point pact fams are very loyal to eachother and i want to give them credit for that.
So in the end, there is 2 ways to win a vers from pact.
1. kill them in the beginning (with many unrelated fams) and have a nice open version after with more sides
2. start pacting yourselves and become bigger, stronger etc. (many fams refuse to do so) because they believe this is not how the game should be played.
im not flaming/bashing/whining (or what ever people will say) at pact, im just saying how the situation is atm
o/
FlowzZ at 10:22:26 on 23/10:
So you mean fams that have potential to be in top15 and shot so much at this early stage of war should die so the game is played as its supposed to be played ?
Care to explain how this is supposed to be played again? cuz im sure im missing something u seem so certain about it .
Anonymous at 09:37:32 on 23/10:
after this weekend we can conclude `pact´ did a very nice job, they got attacked by several fams, they stood up for eachother and are still alive and kicking. It will take them some time to rebuild but they will show up again with 7-8 fams (could be more) in top15.
Lets see if next version half omerta combined can take out pact at start (like last version) so after that we can all start playing this game like it is suppose to be played
after this weekend we can conclude `pact´ did a very nice job, they got attacked by several fams, they stood up for eachother and are still alive and kicking. It will take them some time to rebuild but they will show up again with 7-8 fams (could be more) in top15.
Lets see if next version half omerta combined can take out pact at start (like last version) so after that we can all start playing this game like it is suppose to be played
So you mean fams that have potential to be in top15 and shot so much at this early stage of war should die so the game is played as its supposed to be played ?
Care to explain how this is supposed to be played again? cuz im sure im missing something u seem so certain about it .
well for starters this following sutiation, at this point this side (so called pact) has blooded so many fams over the years. that you kinda need half omerta to take them down. if you look at previous versions this only happend once (last version) and i doubt they will let this happen again. after this happend it was a nice open version with options for everyone.
on top of that, its hard to organise wars against pact because because of their bloodingstratagy you need a shitload of fams to kill them (this is hard to organise, because onlike pact, other fams refuse to participate in this massblooding). so in order to kill them other fams need to work with fams they also consider enemies. Result: fams who have the balls to stand up against this huge pact, go on useless missions (Destination suicide, Mysterious useless attack).
And this pacting is not a problem of today it started a few versions ago, and they had succes with it obviously. at this point pact fams are very loyal to eachother and i want to give them credit for that.
So in the end, there is 2 ways to win a vers from pact.
1. kill them in the beginning (with many unrelated fams) and have a nice open version after with more sides
2. start pacting yourselves and become bigger, stronger etc. (many fams refuse to do so) because they believe this is not how the game should be played.
im not flaming/bashing/whining (or what ever people will say) at pact, im just saying how the situation is atm
o/
We've been through this a lot of times i'm not even gonna bother explaining how game got into this point , but so u know since we are at this version , same were about to happen to 'pact' fams if they didnt shoot first , and idk who said before Panna or someone that be happy that these fams shoot bullets , i myself give up on some version when fams who didnt shoot a bullet and hugged all version long come at top and claim victory by cleaning left over fams .
well FlowzZ i put the effort to explain you what i mean. so maybe you could do the same. i think i gave a decent view on the current situation. tell me where you disagree, so we can have a debat that is relevant in stead of all the flaming and bashing on this site.
First of all its not a pact its just fams with loyal and understanding bloods but nowadays they pray your bloods not to jump and when they do they are called lickers, different from 3.2 when turkuz levi gamb vio etc. were shooting together and u had turkuz tops here claiming they sort of pact and were jerking to that situation thinking it would never last (will get to that later ) , and no its not the numbers of fams that we (im in grav so u know) blood, let me give u a fast example on how this partially started , we finished #1 3.0 and in good cooperation with krays and dig (sort of winning , aint claiming it since there are a billion arguments on how a fam can win a version) , in 3.1 we went different ways and straight away became targets of diff fams , on that time u had two sides 'on traditional beef' with each other , conflict side (with invo+crist) and vinci/grav one , and also fams like nazd (on that time)and a bunch of others who were used to that style of game just waiting for those two big blocks shoot each other and then come shoot the left overs and claim victory , then you are left humiliated for giving such effort to this game and for your position wasted to it just so some low lifer can shoot you empty or damaged (same as will happen to us this version since we killed so many targets and kind of overdid ourselves in such early stage) , ok 3.1 over now comes 3.2 , after seeing how those people like to play and just wait for their big chance , we blooded with conf and they started panicking , this is the gangbang they planned on us news.omertabeyond.com/30 , failed due to KA favoring defenders side (lucky us) , but it didnt end in there since attackers were still in that proportion even on second attack and even third . we can skip versions since we were on/off in those and jump to this current one , we started after pauses and had lots of request from fams to blood since politics changed etc. there again first targets of those fams , levi co were supposed to shoot we got the info and shot first , not our fault their bloods didnt jump neither the fams that were supposed to join their attack on some of us (im not talking on 10 fams here no) , just grav alone shot 30+ targets in those two wars of that day , then you have the so called organized attack on us without so much casualties as expected , also AGAIN not our fault kuro (no idea what they did or how they did) but sort of sold the attackers and made it obvious that they just want to shoot meme+ , nazd feels betrayed and offers nonshoot and promises something ( which i know they wont keep its nazd after all ) , leaving the remaining attackers to get downed by those remaining attackers we had left. I can go on and on but i am finishing this by telling you that its not our fault we manage to build the trust of other people by standing up for our bloods , building a decent fam , and loving to shoot . after all we've been playing this game for so long , whats there to be lost. i tried not to involve hate/bash/disrespect in my comment and hopefully left it some way that we can debate over it (OB news needs it too )
Wow, noobosawa does something stupid to boost their egos instead of doing something smart?
And you don't think, that Nazdrovia will keep up to their side of a bargain?
Don't spoil all the surprises around fams for us. :)
My apologies then , but you aint getting nowhere if u believe in anony bashing posts on fams :')
True but playing this game for more than 2 versions, gives you a good idea, that both statements are not very surprising.