Turkish families are way too strong this version, if they play together and well they will win this version.

ps. Xzone = Venture also

add those to alliance stats, another coward crew

Lets's hope Samurai, Yigidos/Blacksea, Liberta, Memento, Anadolu and Troy get shot down as soon as possible. Coward style alliances.

Pure cowards ruining the game with their alliances

At this point i honestly given up explaining what we are and what we arent couldnt care less anymore theres too many paranoid people. seeing all the hidden agendas there isnt there wich i said ealier. but like Aart said. keep the forcing the so called pact to be a so called pact. wich i doubt will happen with alot of tops and fams retired.

truth is alot of us are just spread out now hoping the game aint fully dead yet. myself i really really came close to not even bothering making an acc this version.

What I more wonder is, what the fuck is the Cascio family?

'I want my own family and I'll ask my real family to protect me' ?

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listen.



why dont you ask yourself why your fam is not #1 #2 #3 #4 ....?

why dont you ask your tops where are the members, where is your famworth, where are your bullets AND finaly, objects??

when you solve those issues, you might be some new power house, but spending time on writing annonymous posts on beyond is not goit to help you, go rank loosers.

Offcourse, ingame friends will stick together in the same families, though different tops/family names means different ways of thinking.
anyway, keep this attitude, and in 2 versions all you have to shoot is eachother.

thats not really the issue, the issue is that playerbases from former pactfams will eventually be on the same side. so the name of fams dont really matter

Make a new topic/tread: Fams that really are lucchese

wow couldn't agree more with mr. anon down here. my thumbs are up for you sir!
still.. haters gonne hate and keep yelling devs are killing the game rofl

* adds to massive quote thread..

Little difference to me. xd

I was thinking about Liberta sister fams xD

You mean Cristeria sister fams?

You sound like a wise man. (You could be me xD). I support this way of thinking.

oke oke were talking and agreeing on things, that's postive ;) I am surely not expecting 40 sides this version but when I see little things change I am in hope it can trigger bigger things to change. I see Lucchese tops have retired, a significant amount of members (not tops) are have gone to several families including Monte Carlo and mysterious. now the most important change comes up: these two fams go seperate ways, they are not blooded and have no blood in common. Why would you not support that and why would you want to try calling them the same. if everyone gangbangs them, they'll probably see it as a reason to pact.

Same with troy. if everyone calls them maraz they will group up to defend themselfs. fact is, these families have different tops and want to go a different direction than their previous tops.

we have 2 options: put them in the same corners causing the pacting to go on
or option 2 is to let them play their own game and hope pacting will become smaller.

I'm just supporting them in their changes because if you don't pacting will surely stay the same and then you can't complain about it because you forced them to stay a pact.

I actually think families that shot eachother last version should be able to play together this version if they have same interest. I realise that's even further away tho.

on the last part i totally agree, im just saying its naive to think this will actually happen, i think you fail to see that all former pact families are trying it under different names now (some other tops in a different setup) but in the end all these former pactfams/rankers will be together. so new fams, different setup but in the end nothing has changed

you just fail to see there's different people running those families. I didn't say they wanted 40 sides, I said I want 40 sides. I am not a part of any of the two above called families so I can't speak in their name. I do can give my own oppinion.

if maraz members would start a new thing without their current tops, without the intention to pact the same way maraz did, then they shouldn't be called maraz and then I honestly hope they'll do amazing without this pacting.

right now troy is being called maraz and mysterious and other families are being called Lucchese or whatever family.
So in these families perspective they have a new family and could even work together if needed, now people like you try to push them into 1 corner again so you guys can cry like little babies again. troy is not maraz!

perhaps you should support families like troy being not maraz and Monte Carlo not being Lucchese because it can change the always one massive decisive war into a moresided open version.

Letting new families with different playstyle come into the game, allows this game to become more interesting and more fun tp all of us.

how cute, im sorry but thats very naive, you truly believe those fams have had a sudden change of heart? funny thing is, it whas those fams who started the massiv blooding/pacting. and now all of a sudden they want 40 sides. fukin hilarious haha

Listen up, I've only posted the first thing and obviously I don't know both families inside out. I just see the same people here on the forum first cry over too many blooding and so called pussy pacting, those same people now try to talk families that have not a single blood in common back into 1 pact. Monte Carlo and mysterious are both going to play this version different and I actually hope some other families would Finaly do the same.

When I look in the total family list I see a lot of families that could have just been put into one family already since they try to make a big pact already. such families are no real families but made by people who want to make their own family but don't actually dare to stand on their own legs yet. If all 60 families would just play and shoot on their own interest it would make this game a lot more interesting.

Stop polarizing this game, there is no 2 sides. there's 40 sides