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General Comments & Major Rumors section.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
Everyone knows where this section is for, keep it clean from flaming and only posts in english are allowed.
and for gawd sake stop talking about football , do fake rumors just dont do that
Killer (20:48:03 - 15-05)
What's with all those families who keep hiding their bloodlist?
Seems pretty lame if you ask me.
What are they afraid of? Too tiny list or too long?
Of top10, respect to Righelli, Affinitas, Bruinsma and Gelibolu.
Shame on the others
Seems pretty lame if you ask me.
What are they afraid of? Too tiny list or too long?
Of top10, respect to Righelli, Affinitas, Bruinsma and Gelibolu.
Shame on the others
Deston at 16:50:40 on 15/05:
I just skimmed it and it looks like a whole lot of bullshit. 13-14-15 year olds bought away by foreign clubs with a lot of money?
I'm sure you and other Ajax supporters say Eriksen is Ajax youth, when in fact he was in their youth squad for something like 6 months before making his debut. You buy players from other clubs now, and you have done it for decades. That's what money can do.
In short tl;dr cry.
sbanks at 16:33:57 on 15/05:
Ajax has been and still is one of the best clubs in the world. In the 70's they won the champions league three times in a row... you think they made MILLIONS with that? back in the 70's a couple 100 thousands was allot of money
furthermore the whole team was dutch..
ajax school has been well known everywhere and most people agree that ajax has one of the best youth departments in the world.
Little kids with potential, 12, 13, 14, 15 year old, get bought away from .nl youth departments because clubs like real madrid, inter, manchester city/united can pay much more them.
how come they can pay more money?
here in .nl and in other "normal" countries who don't have a debt of 2352525352523 billions to the european banks dont allow the clubs to have debts
if ajax would have a debt of 1 single euro, it wont get a license for the comming year.. thus the football club would stop excist..
in shit countries where more then 60% of the youth don't have a job, for example.. hi spain.. it is very normal to have a debt of 500 million ( hi real madrid )
so they can attract the "better" players and pay a ridiculous ammount of money.
if i look at how the dutch clubs played last season on an european level, clubs from italy, spain and england should be ashamed of themself.
fact is.. ajax still has one of the best youth departments of the world, and for the ammount of money dutch clubs can invest they do it way and way better then other european countries.
its only sad that the UEFA still allows clubs to play with a debt of millions and millions of euro's.
in spain the IRS still gets several hundreds of millions from the spannish football clubs. i believe they now agreed that all the cash who they get from the TV rights in the comming season all go to the IRS directly.
Also its a sad fact, when some spannish clubs "buy" players they don't even pay all the money. for example Genk, a belgium football club is still waiting on the money from 3 players they sold last season.
Or they buy expensive players and cant pay their salary. i can recall that royston drenthe refused to play anymore for malaga? because he didnt recieved a single penny for months.
i rly hope the UEFA wont allow clubs to play european football if they have a debt.
ow.. and camera's on the goal line..
Last season was also ridiculous unlucky for ajax.
first they lost vs real madrid because 2 clear goals got cancelled.
see
and what.. lyon needed like 5 / 6 goals diference to get to the next round, and suddenly dynamo zagreb loses with 1-7? i mean.. get real
Revolucion at 15:10:05 on 15/05:
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
PannaJunk at 06:33:27 on 15/05:
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
Ajax has been and still is one of the best clubs in the world. In the 70's they won the champions league three times in a row... you think they made MILLIONS with that? back in the 70's a couple 100 thousands was allot of money
furthermore the whole team was dutch..
ajax school has been well known everywhere and most people agree that ajax has one of the best youth departments in the world.
Little kids with potential, 12, 13, 14, 15 year old, get bought away from .nl youth departments because clubs like real madrid, inter, manchester city/united can pay much more them.
how come they can pay more money?
here in .nl and in other "normal" countries who don't have a debt of 2352525352523 billions to the european banks dont allow the clubs to have debts
if ajax would have a debt of 1 single euro, it wont get a license for the comming year.. thus the football club would stop excist..
in shit countries where more then 60% of the youth don't have a job, for example.. hi spain.. it is very normal to have a debt of 500 million ( hi real madrid )
so they can attract the "better" players and pay a ridiculous ammount of money.
if i look at how the dutch clubs played last season on an european level, clubs from italy, spain and england should be ashamed of themself.
fact is.. ajax still has one of the best youth departments of the world, and for the ammount of money dutch clubs can invest they do it way and way better then other european countries.
its only sad that the UEFA still allows clubs to play with a debt of millions and millions of euro's.
in spain the IRS still gets several hundreds of millions from the spannish football clubs. i believe they now agreed that all the cash who they get from the TV rights in the comming season all go to the IRS directly.
Also its a sad fact, when some spannish clubs "buy" players they don't even pay all the money. for example Genk, a belgium football club is still waiting on the money from 3 players they sold last season.
Or they buy expensive players and cant pay their salary. i can recall that royston drenthe refused to play anymore for malaga? because he didnt recieved a single penny for months.
i rly hope the UEFA wont allow clubs to play european football if they have a debt.
ow.. and camera's on the goal line..
Last season was also ridiculous unlucky for ajax.
first they lost vs real madrid because 2 clear goals got cancelled.
see
and what.. lyon needed like 5 / 6 goals diference to get to the next round, and suddenly dynamo zagreb loses with 1-7? i mean.. get real
I'm sure you and other Ajax supporters say Eriksen is Ajax youth, when in fact he was in their youth squad for something like 6 months before making his debut. You buy players from other clubs now, and you have done it for decades. That's what money can do.
In short tl;dr cry.
uhm.. no, no1 says that eriksen is ajax youth..
its no bullshit what im saying, just check these players: Jeffrey Bruma, Rajiv van la Parra, Kyle Ebecilio, Nathan Ake en Karim Rekik
all left feyenoord youth at an age of 15-16
just look at this or get it translated:
Talenten: zorgenkindjes of avonturisten?
KNVB onderzoekt transfer Ake
Een elftal aan weggeplukt Nederlands voetbaltalent
sbanks at 16:33:57 on 15/05:
Ajax has been and still is one of the best clubs in the world. In the 70's they won the champions league three times in a row... you think they made MILLIONS with that? back in the 70's a couple 100 thousands was allot of money
furthermore the whole team was dutch..
ajax school has been well known everywhere and most people agree that ajax has one of the best youth departments in the world.
Little kids with potential, 12, 13, 14, 15 year old, get bought away from .nl youth departments because clubs like real madrid, inter, manchester city/united can pay much more them.
how come they can pay more money?
here in .nl and in other "normal" countries who don't have a debt of 2352525352523 billions to the european banks dont allow the clubs to have debts
if ajax would have a debt of 1 single euro, it wont get a license for the comming year.. thus the football club would stop excist..
in shit countries where more then 60% of the youth don't have a job, for example.. hi spain.. it is very normal to have a debt of 500 million ( hi real madrid )
so they can attract the "better" players and pay a ridiculous ammount of money.
if i look at how the dutch clubs played last season on an european level, clubs from italy, spain and england should be ashamed of themself.
fact is.. ajax still has one of the best youth departments of the world, and for the ammount of money dutch clubs can invest they do it way and way better then other european countries.
its only sad that the UEFA still allows clubs to play with a debt of millions and millions of euro's.
in spain the IRS still gets several hundreds of millions from the spannish football clubs. i believe they now agreed that all the cash who they get from the TV rights in the comming season all go to the IRS directly.
Also its a sad fact, when some spannish clubs "buy" players they don't even pay all the money. for example Genk, a belgium football club is still waiting on the money from 3 players they sold last season.
Or they buy expensive players and cant pay their salary. i can recall that royston drenthe refused to play anymore for malaga? because he didnt recieved a single penny for months.
i rly hope the UEFA wont allow clubs to play european football if they have a debt.
ow.. and camera's on the goal line..
Last season was also ridiculous unlucky for ajax.
first they lost vs real madrid because 2 clear goals got cancelled.
see
and what.. lyon needed like 5 / 6 goals diference to get to the next round, and suddenly dynamo zagreb loses with 1-7? i mean.. get real
Revolucion at 15:10:05 on 15/05:
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
PannaJunk at 06:33:27 on 15/05:
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
Ajax has been and still is one of the best clubs in the world. In the 70's they won the champions league three times in a row... you think they made MILLIONS with that? back in the 70's a couple 100 thousands was allot of money
furthermore the whole team was dutch..
ajax school has been well known everywhere and most people agree that ajax has one of the best youth departments in the world.
Little kids with potential, 12, 13, 14, 15 year old, get bought away from .nl youth departments because clubs like real madrid, inter, manchester city/united can pay much more them.
how come they can pay more money?
here in .nl and in other "normal" countries who don't have a debt of 2352525352523 billions to the european banks dont allow the clubs to have debts
if ajax would have a debt of 1 single euro, it wont get a license for the comming year.. thus the football club would stop excist..
in shit countries where more then 60% of the youth don't have a job, for example.. hi spain.. it is very normal to have a debt of 500 million ( hi real madrid )
so they can attract the "better" players and pay a ridiculous ammount of money.
if i look at how the dutch clubs played last season on an european level, clubs from italy, spain and england should be ashamed of themself.
fact is.. ajax still has one of the best youth departments of the world, and for the ammount of money dutch clubs can invest they do it way and way better then other european countries.
its only sad that the UEFA still allows clubs to play with a debt of millions and millions of euro's.
in spain the IRS still gets several hundreds of millions from the spannish football clubs. i believe they now agreed that all the cash who they get from the TV rights in the comming season all go to the IRS directly.
Also its a sad fact, when some spannish clubs "buy" players they don't even pay all the money. for example Genk, a belgium football club is still waiting on the money from 3 players they sold last season.
Or they buy expensive players and cant pay their salary. i can recall that royston drenthe refused to play anymore for malaga? because he didnt recieved a single penny for months.
i rly hope the UEFA wont allow clubs to play european football if they have a debt.
ow.. and camera's on the goal line..
Last season was also ridiculous unlucky for ajax.
first they lost vs real madrid because 2 clear goals got cancelled.
see
and what.. lyon needed like 5 / 6 goals diference to get to the next round, and suddenly dynamo zagreb loses with 1-7? i mean.. get real
I'm sure you and other Ajax supporters say Eriksen is Ajax youth, when in fact he was in their youth squad for something like 6 months before making his debut. You buy players from other clubs now, and you have done it for decades. That's what money can do.
In short tl;dr cry.
http://ibmsem.wordpress.com/infographics/group-7/ pls all open the link to help a friend. after u opened u may close again
Revolucion at 15:10:05 on 15/05:
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
PannaJunk at 06:33:27 on 15/05:
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
Ajax has been and still is one of the best clubs in the world. In the 70's they won the champions league three times in a row... you think they made MILLIONS with that? back in the 70's a couple 100 thousands was allot of money
furthermore the whole team was dutch..
ajax school has been well known everywhere and most people agree that ajax has one of the best youth departments in the world.
Little kids with potential, 12, 13, 14, 15 year old, get bought away from .nl youth departments because clubs like real madrid, inter, manchester city/united can pay much more them.
how come they can pay more money?
here in .nl and in other "normal" countries who don't have a debt of 2352525352523 billions to the european banks dont allow the clubs to have debts
if ajax would have a debt of 1 single euro, it wont get a license for the comming year.. thus the football club would stop excist..
in shit countries where more then 60% of the youth don't have a job, for example.. hi spain.. it is very normal to have a debt of 500 million ( hi real madrid )
so they can attract the "better" players and pay a ridiculous ammount of money.
if i look at how the dutch clubs played last season on an european level, clubs from italy, spain and england should be ashamed of themself.
fact is.. ajax still has one of the best youth departments of the world, and for the ammount of money dutch clubs can invest they do it way and way better then other european countries.
its only sad that the UEFA still allows clubs to play with a debt of millions and millions of euro's.
in spain the IRS still gets several hundreds of millions from the spannish football clubs. i believe they now agreed that all the cash who they get from the TV rights in the comming season all go to the IRS directly.
Also its a sad fact, when some spannish clubs "buy" players they don't even pay all the money. for example Genk, a belgium football club is still waiting on the money from 3 players they sold last season.
Or they buy expensive players and cant pay their salary. i can recall that royston drenthe refused to play anymore for malaga? because he didnt recieved a single penny for months.
i rly hope the UEFA wont allow clubs to play european football if they have a debt.
ow.. and camera's on the goal line..
Last season was also ridiculous unlucky for ajax.
first they lost vs real madrid because 2 clear goals got cancelled.
see
and what.. lyon needed like 5 / 6 goals diference to get to the next round, and suddenly dynamo zagreb loses with 1-7? i mean.. get real
Anonymous (16:14:07 - 15-05)
who does chi bf belong to? correptio? i think purga is more deserved than correpito. correptio didnt shoot to anyone
Anonymous (16:01:04 - 15-05)
war tonight, game closing one ..... righelli first targeted by ......... :)
zenga (15:56:41 - 15-05)
So does anyone have any juicy stories about who was behind that so called ddos attack lately? It seems the topic has gone quite, so figured it 'd be cool to bring it up again.
PannaJunk at 06:33:27 on 15/05:
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
Ofc I get what you mean, but Ajax was lucky in the old days that they had more money to make the club how it's now... they could provide better equipment and stuff, so the youth came + the possibility to afford more salary as the other clubs made the name Ajax world wide. So in the end money made Ajax
Even that ofc in the old days the money was not the main factor :D
In the end all clubs that are big now where just lucky to have a more money since the start and that's how they made their name. Not to mention that the only reason some clubs are on top is because they have millions and millions of Euro in debt and nobody cares :D
ali (12:59:32 - 15-05)
Mikee at 12:42:35 on 15/05:
Dude always talking about war :s this game is all about people having fun. Lets just stop the shooting because being shot is no fun. Lets make bingo evening instead, every wednesday. Winners gets 1.000.000
Thats what makes people happy!
Anonymous at 10:36:15 on 15/05:
!Next War ???
Bid Open...
:D
!Next War ???
Bid Open...
:D
Thats what makes people happy!
Anonymous at 10:36:15 on 15/05:
!Next War ???
Bid Open...
:D
!Next War ???
Bid Open...
:D
Thats what makes people happy!
Anonymous (10:36:15 - 15-05)
!Next War ???
Bid Open...
:D
Bid Open...
:D
True Revolucion, but they still use the youth team alot more then they buy. Ofcourse they spend some more money then every dutch team but thats not because some rich ass came along and pumped money into the club, they won too make money like most dutch teams.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
I just dont like it when a club like Man city wich allways were horrible to watch now suddenly win prices just because someone pumped money in it.
Revolucion at 18:21:46 on 14/05:
but still you support the team with the most money in Holland :P
PannaJunk at 13:41:23 on 14/05:
Ajax xD Since I was born :')
I dont like the big teams who spend billions to get a price...
Revo at 11:57:56 on 14/05:
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Deston at 18:59:28 on 13/05:
That was years ago when they won shit, right redspreet?.
bennaz at 18:41:47 on 13/05:
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Redspeert at 17:15:25 on 13/05:
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Ajax xD Since I was born :')
I dont like the big teams who spend billions to get a price...
but still you support the team with the most money in Holland :P
AFC Ajax FTW
PannaJunk at 13:41:23 on 14/05:
Ajax xD Since I was born :')
I dont like the big teams who spend billions to get a price...
Revo at 11:57:56 on 14/05:
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Deston at 18:59:28 on 13/05:
That was years ago when they won shit, right redspreet?.
bennaz at 18:41:47 on 13/05:
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Redspeert at 17:15:25 on 13/05:
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Ajax xD Since I was born :')
I dont like the big teams who spend billions to get a price...
but still you support the team with the most money in Holland :P
Revo at 11:57:56 on 14/05:
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Deston at 18:59:28 on 13/05:
That was years ago when they won shit, right redspreet?.
bennaz at 18:41:47 on 13/05:
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Redspeert at 17:15:25 on 13/05:
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Ajax xD Since I was born :')
I dont like the big teams who spend billions to get a price...
Revo (11:57:56 - 14-05)
Deston at 18:59:28 on 13/05:
That was years ago when they won shit, right redspreet?.
bennaz at 18:41:47 on 13/05:
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Redspeert at 17:15:25 on 13/05:
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
Blue Moon
Now I'm no longer alone
Without a dream in my heart
Without a love of my own
And then there suddenly appeared before me
The only one my arms will ever hold
I heard somebody whisper please adore me
And when I looked the Moon had turned to gold
M.C.F.C \o/
I thought u support LIVERPOOL <3 ?!
Got to love glory hunters
Man United till i die. If QPR didnt know the final score of bolton, they wouldnt have conceded two goals lol
Anonymous (09:30:52 - 14-05)
Anonymous at 17:19:23 on 12/05:
venutti controlling stuff and playing big. respect for them. they haven't been puppet. and shot vaffanculo which shows they have balls :)
vaffan :w
venutti controlling stuff and playing big. respect for them. they haven't been puppet. and shot vaffanculo which shows they have balls :)
vaffan :w
Vaffanculo? I havent seen them around, Messina you mean!?