Samagono is completely retired, and the suicide 1.5 week ago happened ONLY because we have been left more or less alone against the pact, as well as a couple other fams. And shooting in the 1st war, we did it for KS, as many other fams did.

But yeah we do feel appreciated to see someone is still afraid of our ghosts. LOL.

There are wrong people telling a lot BS about us, and u know who they are :)

We aint dead yet :D Surrender and we will find mercy on your mortal souls! :D

This game CAN be alive and huge. And i even know how.

Problem is, owners are probably happy with what they have now, with enough dc's sold to keep them able to afford pizza and beer. And they wont leave their comfort zone because that would require to raise quality and hire some actually good programmers.

Lol, i come after few years and i see that we have probably the worst likes vs. haters ratio.

Well if this ratio is bad, this means the family probably was playing the game right.

Good luck all :)

Sbanks, about option 1, i ment usually people do not even know some of these fams, therefore they do not know what they should be looking for in the search. And using dropdown for sightseeing is just not that comfortable.

A list of links in alphabetical order would just allow go around checking those, that you do not even know, and keep track of where you are, as dropdown is always at A letter and needs to be scrolled again and again. Also dropdown is not compatible with opening multiple tabs :)

P.S. Some small suggestions (not humour this time):

1. Add list instead of dropdown. With dropdown it's only convenient when you know what you are looking for. With list it is more convenient to fish around.

2. When opening a page of the specific fam, could there also be links to family related articles (wars participated)? It would be way more interesting to not only look at pictures, but to learn some history as well, at the same time :)

Uploaded some more :)

Next step: someone share collection of omerta playing girls pics (i know you all collect them) ;)

What PPAL was trying to say by shooting all one by one, was kinda the plan that did not work out.

Originally here was the distribution:
http://i48.tinypic.com/b8r7tx.jpg

(as a retiring person i have no secrets)

Therefore, first 6 shots had to be done one by one. Because you need to shoot don, see who became don, kill that one fast, etc.

After bringing fams down, everyone who hadn't shot, would of course shoot. And according to the plan everything had to happen in a minute.

Because of the leaker, plan did not work out as targets (tops) were safehoused. Of course then everyone was ordered to fire at will. Did not work well because of the same safehouses.

This is the main reason why the damage was so low. Way lower than it could be, if we just chose 1 fam and damaged it heavily with no big planning.

Yes if you want your point considered ;)

Anyway. Work tomorrow. NN all.

And you are anonymous because...?

Plan was completely different :)
But ofc, plans that require timely precision, are very vulnerable to leaking.

Fuck leakers ;)

RIP all and have a nice EURO2012 without omerta :D

Never ever did anything like this.

Now this makes me what? ...

I have only this version in mind.
And i was talking facts not opinions.

Does not matter which side you belong or which fam you are, you have to admit. This version is done.

As it was forseen, version is pretty much locked and clean. Therefore we all are waiting for reset, thus seing how small chunks are being swallowed by large fishes, and it boring. This version is planned smoothly pretty much from beginning to the end, and if someone thinks someone could have made difference anytime, even when all were famless, they are wrong.
We can congratulate the top fams with their achievements, and admire for being able to use such kind of diplomacy, to gather so much power in one place, and being able to control it.

Anyway, this is not a complain, but a plan of how to determine who won this version, and also how every1 can have fun.

Solution is simple: an independent tournament!

Rules:

1. Independent ruler of the game is needed. Must be known, honest and fair.
2. Rules are simple: every day at lets say 20 OT (or every couple of days) ruler announces two families (or two sides equal in famworth) that must go into a duel. And the game is on - two sides shoot each other. Duel is considered over when family (or families) in one side are down. Winners continue playing. If no side is down within 36 hours, both sides continue playing.
3. No other families can intervene in the duel. No blood ties, alliances or anything matter. Duels are also generated random, can happen against your blood, ally or your secret ties fam. It is completely up to ruler. One exception - no duelling against your own sisterfams. Sisterfams usualy duel in your side.
4. Duel winners do not fight 2 battles in a row, or in short time. Everyone gets time to recover while other fams are duelling.
5. Most important, all tops agree in advance, that any family, going against rules or launching an attack on someone they should not, get ripped apart by all families together.

It is doable simply enough. If, lets say, tops of first 10 fams agree they are in, other fams are, more or less, forced to be in as well :))) Because if ruler launches a duel, for example: Tremps vs Oblivions and Infra, those tops for sure want to follow the news and get that info in time.

Sadly, this thing is utopia, as i honestly do not believe many families would sign up for such kind of tournament.
But if they would, this would restore a lot of faith in community :)
Who would be winners, without losers? :)

Respect the dead and give them something to watch at :PP

Completely agree. Even though zenga is a known cheater which i can't stand :) But most of his thoughts are rational (except for those supporting duping).

Lackeys aren't supposed to work as manual rankers, and if they had some issues, np with that. I personally would be retired long time, if not for lackeys. And i know very many other players who would be retired too - simply because the game isn't worth 16 hours of your day, whatever way you put it.
If they give you possibility to play and not stay too much behind, i can agree with small disadvantages like testing bugs etc.

I have to work so i cannot continue this discussion, however please do not twist around my arguments - my main point is that it only depends on how a person looks into the game.

If the person sees this as an opportunity to live normal life, and still have a good game, being reachable and maybe sometimes gathering in the evening to chat with others who do the same - he will enjoy lackeys.

The people who leave because others don't come on irc much - only contribute in the negative process.

It's all about free will and not forcing people to sit and chat (because you still have to sit and click anyway).

A lot? This one is 1y+ already isn't it?

3.0 i retired in the middle so i might not know how long exactly it was, my bad.
Though it had different issues (half of the version hard to kill because of rob and no mya, not enough ppl dying).

This version was the longest that i remember. Means there were always enough people to ensure it's not over.

Plain and simple.

I was not a very successful top, this is where you are correct.
The main reason for this was nothing else but TIME.

If some people choose to flush their best years down the toilet it is their choice of course. But now the game offered opportunity for those who want to have time for everything.

The main complainers are the ones who now cannot be so far ahead compared to the living ones :)

Exactly. Conditions changed and the ones who can't live with it chose not playing, without even thinking of the advantages.
I can only make conclusions that there were so way more no-lifers attached to PC, than i immagined. Or simply, scripters.

Immagine you keep slaves in gulag where they have to work to earn a piece of bread for themselves every day. Then after 5 years you let them go free, saying they can go do whatever they want - work elsewhere, get rich, have fun, drink and fuck a lot, and if they want they can always come back to a diner to have food whenever they want.

Do you think they will still stay and continue working? Or they adjust to the new style of life.

A bunch of slaves not used to freedom, this is what we are. Most of us.