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Catania finds themselves in a pickle as they're being taken down by the still firmly standing forces of Tijuana, Kurosawa and what remains of Prophecy.
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| War started on: 21:00:03 05-12-2014 | War ended on: 10:15:03 06-12-2014 |
| Bullet difference: -2,803,529 | War duration: 13h 15m |
| Money difference: -$289,787,022 | Players died: 42 |
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Anonymous (10:26:02 - 12-12)
RESET METER ??
Anonymous (06:57:12 - 09-12)
Fillip at 23:31:35 on 05/12:
We shot Marazzino?I thought we are on Hellangels :/
We shot Marazzino?I thought we are on Hellangels :/
you just saved aeter's ass by taking our attention on your shitty fam. we were planning to shoot aeterna 3-4 versions in a row but now kuro will be our main target.
prepair yourself for a dirty fight...
Redvendetta at 13:11:44 on 07/12:
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion as to what the 'bug' was. It was not the don moving people around to retain strength in regimes - this would be the legitimate way to retain your CD rank and is used extensively, by all fams during wartime. Equally ludicrous is to claim that it was a 'visual bug' - it wasn't. Anyone who has a rank showing of CD, has the strength associated with that rank.
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion as to what the 'bug' was. It was not the don moving people around to retain strength in regimes - this would be the legitimate way to retain your CD rank and is used extensively, by all fams during wartime. Equally ludicrous is to claim that it was a 'visual bug' - it wasn't. Anyone who has a rank showing of CD, has the strength associated with that rank.
Saros`away at 17:31:40 on 05/12:
[20:54] <Arcanine> i see a few CD's still CD although they dont have anywhere near 2,000 capo strength..just matter of time till demote?
[20:54] <Dee> are they off?
[20:54] <!KCode> Arcanine, display rank
[20:54] <!KCode> the real rank is always on system
[20:54] * Jans ([email protected]) has joined #4.0
[20:54] <!KCode> display rank is only updated on action
*cough* Such a strong bug. *cough*
[20:54] <Arcanine> i see a few CD's still CD although they dont have anywhere near 2,000 capo strength..just matter of time till demote?
[20:54] <Dee> are they off?
[20:54] <!KCode> Arcanine, display rank
[20:54] <!KCode> the real rank is always on system
[20:54] * Jans ([email protected]) has joined #4.0
[20:54] <!KCode> display rank is only updated on action
*cough* Such a strong bug. *cough*
MalcolmJohnX (16:30:11 - 07-12)
Jonko at 16:21:14 on 07/12:
Theyll wait for atleast next year I think, since most will be afk during december. But I agree, version is almost dead no one is reranking, well.. most arent.
Anonymous at 14:13:06 on 07/12:
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
Theyll wait for atleast next year I think, since most will be afk during december. But I agree, version is almost dead no one is reranking, well.. most arent.
Resetting now could lead to a few diff families to have a chance to do something. That would be good for the admins. They can wait till Jan and reset or reset now and reset in Feb more money for version starts when the most lackeys are running.
MalcolmJohnX (16:23:09 - 07-12)
Anonymous at 14:13:06 on 07/12:
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
+1
They just wanna take all the remaining credits out there that people are currently wasting. They will probably have a rom vote and another full week wait till a reset to suck you fools dry, hoping that you'll have to start fresh with a DC buying spree when they finally reset. I'm starting to accept they are incompetent nooks when it comes to making positive changes, but I can't accept the fact they have no idea when to reset in a timely manner once version is closed ingame.
Jonko (16:21:14 - 07-12)
Anonymous at 14:13:06 on 07/12:
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
Theyll wait for atleast next year I think, since most will be afk during december. But I agree, version is almost dead no one is reranking, well.. most arent.
Anonymous (14:13:06 - 07-12)
why haven't they announced reset yet? Nothing in this version mattters anymore lol
Cleaner (13:46:39 - 07-12)
bla bla bla i have cheated and now im crying.
Time for the remaining fams to shoot up tijuana and burgeasia!.
Lets make this version turn around once more.
Time for the remaining fams to shoot up tijuana and burgeasia!.
Lets make this version turn around once more.
Anonymous (13:30:44 - 07-12)
Redvendetta at 13:11:44 on 07/12:
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion as to what the 'bug' was. It was not the don moving people around to retain strength in regimes - this would be the legitimate way to retain your CD rank and is used extensively, by all fams during wartime. Equally ludicrous is to claim that it was a 'visual bug' - it wasn't. Anyone who has a rank showing of CD, has the strength associated with that rank.
The 'bug' was capos staying offline and/or not doing anything manually (including travel) to retain their CD rank when they no longer have sufficient regime strength. Since CD was reintroduced for capos, their demotion has not been automatic, this has been complained about many times - to the point where people have had to be manually demoted by an admin/dev...so this shouldn't be news to anyone.
This also allows some funky things when a family dies and some capos have remained alive. They can retain their CD rank so long as they don't do anything manually that gives them RP, including joining a new family and adding credits to lackeys.
There have been many cases of CDs not demoting when they should - even when their business goes bankrupt. Dead people have even retained ownership of their spots occasionally. The whole thing is rather hit and miss. To say that there have been many examples of this is no exaggeration, since the KA has been adjusted so that staying offline has made most top accounts godly, families surviving for a day or two is fairly common these days, people hunt their members as they wait for an opportunity to shoot the top accounts who tend to spend a long time offline and/or safehoused.
soprano at 01:43:48 on 07/12:
you are retired?
Smul at 15:16:39 on 06/12:
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
Pipoz at 12:17:44 on 06/12:
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
you are retired?
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion as to what the 'bug' was. It was not the don moving people around to retain strength in regimes - this would be the legitimate way to retain your CD rank and is used extensively, by all fams during wartime. Equally ludicrous is to claim that it was a 'visual bug' - it wasn't. Anyone who has a rank showing of CD, has the strength associated with that rank.
The 'bug' was capos staying offline and/or not doing anything manually (including travel) to retain their CD rank when they no longer have sufficient regime strength. Since CD was reintroduced for capos, their demotion has not been automatic, this has been complained about many times - to the point where people have had to be manually demoted by an admin/dev...so this shouldn't be news to anyone.
This also allows some funky things when a family dies and some capos have remained alive. They can retain their CD rank so long as they don't do anything manually that gives them RP, including joining a new family and adding credits to lackeys.
There have been many cases of CDs not demoting when they should - even when their business goes bankrupt. Dead people have even retained ownership of their spots occasionally. The whole thing is rather hit and miss. To say that there have been many examples of this is no exaggeration, since the KA has been adjusted so that staying offline has made most top accounts godly, families surviving for a day or two is fairly common these days, people hunt their members as they wait for an opportunity to shoot the top accounts who tend to spend a long time offline and/or safehoused.
So what admins have decided is that its illegal to stay offline in war? Do families that get shot at and have an empty regime, get online to demote so they can be shot at easier due to being online? If they have to get online to demote they get weaker due to not being in their villa. That's actually making the defenders extremely weak and vulnerable. If the code would've actually been changed when this was reported, people could stay offline, demote and stay in villa.
I don't know any player that will get online 'just to be friendly', demote and get shot at online. Also funny part is that this is being used for ages already, by anyone. Even if you'd not be available that much due to work, you could be an abuser :p
Redvendetta (13:11:44 - 07-12)
soprano at 01:43:48 on 07/12:
you are retired?
Smul at 15:16:39 on 06/12:
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
Pipoz at 12:17:44 on 06/12:
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
you are retired?
Just to clarify, as there seems to be some confusion as to what the 'bug' was. It was not the don moving people around to retain strength in regimes - this would be the legitimate way to retain your CD rank and is used extensively, by all fams during wartime. Equally ludicrous is to claim that it was a 'visual bug' - it wasn't. Anyone who has a rank showing of CD, has the strength associated with that rank.
The 'bug' was capos staying offline and/or not doing anything manually (including travel) to retain their CD rank when they no longer have sufficient regime strength. Since CD was reintroduced for capos, their demotion has not been automatic, this has been complained about many times - to the point where people have had to be manually demoted by an admin/dev...so this shouldn't be news to anyone.
This also allows some funky things when a family dies and some capos have remained alive. They can retain their CD rank so long as they don't do anything manually that gives them RP, including joining a new family and adding credits to lackeys.
There have been many cases of CDs not demoting when they should - even when their business goes bankrupt. Dead people have even retained ownership of their spots occasionally. The whole thing is rather hit and miss. To say that there have been many examples of this is no exaggeration, since the KA has been adjusted so that staying offline has made most top accounts godly, families surviving for a day or two is fairly common these days, people hunt their members as they wait for an opportunity to shoot the top accounts who tend to spend a long time offline and/or safehoused.
soprano (01:43:48 - 07-12)
Smul at 15:16:39 on 06/12:
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
Pipoz at 12:17:44 on 06/12:
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
you are retired?
Anonymous at 22:34:14 on 06/12:
You have a log confirming that this display "bug" is why they were akilled? Not the regime shuffling? If so, then I agree the akills were extreme since the display "bug" is harmless.
Either way, I have a hard time believing the admins intended for it to be possible for a fam that has the members to warrant regime strength for 2-3 CDs to essentially have 12+ CDs active through this shuffling method. Just because they've failed to put a timer on it doesn't mean they intended for the tactic to be used....unless you've got a log to prove that too :p
MurderInc at 20:54:48 on 06/12:
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
You have a log confirming that this display "bug" is why they were akilled? Not the regime shuffling? If so, then I agree the akills were extreme since the display "bug" is harmless.
Either way, I have a hard time believing the admins intended for it to be possible for a fam that has the members to warrant regime strength for 2-3 CDs to essentially have 12+ CDs active through this shuffling method. Just because they've failed to put a timer on it doesn't mean they intended for the tactic to be used....unless you've got a log to prove that too :p
Still, I'm pretty sure this was the reason because:
- Devs have fixed the bug in the meanwhile (the bug being the display bug, they didn't add a timer for regime swapping). That tells me they weren't concerned about that.
- Before the current capo system was implemented, the only thing that mattered for CDC status was capo profit. Back then you didn't lose capo profit when removing a capo. It was common to have backup CDCs that would be swapped around in times of war to get more CDC shots. This was done for years and no one ever got akilled for it.
Once again, I have no problem whatsoever with the crew deciding this is having a negative effect on the game balance and ban such behaviour (or change the gameplay so it doesn't work anymore). But please for the love of god talk to your customers and let them know about the policy change in advance. Don't just go on a (a)killing spree.
Anonymous (22:52:17 - 06-12)
Anonymous at 22:34:14 on 06/12:
You have a log confirming that this display "bug" is why they were akilled? Not the regime shuffling? If so, then I agree the akills were extreme since the display "bug" is harmless.
Either way, I have a hard time believing the admins intended for it to be possible for a fam that has the members to warrant regime strength for 2-3 CDs to essentially have 12+ CDs active through this shuffling method. Just because they've failed to put a timer on it doesn't mean they intended for the tactic to be used....unless you've got a log to prove that too :p
MurderInc at 20:54:48 on 06/12:
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
You have a log confirming that this display "bug" is why they were akilled? Not the regime shuffling? If so, then I agree the akills were extreme since the display "bug" is harmless.
Either way, I have a hard time believing the admins intended for it to be possible for a fam that has the members to warrant regime strength for 2-3 CDs to essentially have 12+ CDs active through this shuffling method. Just because they've failed to put a timer on it doesn't mean they intended for the tactic to be used....unless you've got a log to prove that too :p
Why wouldn't it be allowed? Do we have to question every function in this game on how it could be intended by admins? Makes it quite subjective. Blooding and pacting is also not how admins intended this game to be, adminkill for all? If they didn't intend it this way, they could just set a timer instead of akill.
Anonymous (22:34:14 - 06-12)
MurderInc at 20:54:48 on 06/12:
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
You have a log confirming that this display "bug" is why they were akilled? Not the regime shuffling? If so, then I agree the akills were extreme since the display "bug" is harmless.
Either way, I have a hard time believing the admins intended for it to be possible for a fam that has the members to warrant regime strength for 2-3 CDs to essentially have 12+ CDs active through this shuffling method. Just because they've failed to put a timer on it doesn't mean they intended for the tactic to be used....unless you've got a log to prove that too :p
mmm at 21:11:23 on 06/12:
I can't find it :(
MurderInc at 20:54:48 on 06/12:
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
I can't find it :(
https://news.omertabeyond.net/1725/109#109
MurderInc at 20:54:48 on 06/12:
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
Let's make something clear: No one got akilled for repeatedly moving members between regimes so the capo can promote to CDC and then shoot. This is perfectly legal and working as intended. If the developers didn't want to leave this option open, they would have simply implemented a timer for moving people between regimes (just like you have timers for changing capos/top 3).
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
I can't find it :(
Anonymous at 16:09:01 on 06/12:
You are missing Smul's point. Lusa didn't simply keep their members offline so they stayed listed as CD on their profile. That would have been harmless. What the Lusa GF did was shuffle members around to one capo's regime so that when he logged on he would have the regime strength to promote to CD again and could SHOOT at that rank. Therefore it did influence the KA.
This tactic was rinsed and repeated dozens of times. If you don't believe me, use this site to look at the promotion history of all the Lusa top accounts. They all demoted to Brug and repromoted to CD/GF like 6-7 times each. If they had just harmlessly stayed offline like people are saying, that would not have happened.
This tactic Lusa used wasn't really a bug, but they certainly "gamed the system" with it, which the admins obviously didn't like. The easiest way to fix this would be to put like a 24hr timer on moving members to new regimes. It's a pretty simple fix.
You are missing Smul's point. Lusa didn't simply keep their members offline so they stayed listed as CD on their profile. That would have been harmless. What the Lusa GF did was shuffle members around to one capo's regime so that when he logged on he would have the regime strength to promote to CD again and could SHOOT at that rank. Therefore it did influence the KA.
This tactic was rinsed and repeated dozens of times. If you don't believe me, use this site to look at the promotion history of all the Lusa top accounts. They all demoted to Brug and repromoted to CD/GF like 6-7 times each. If they had just harmlessly stayed offline like people are saying, that would not have happened.
This tactic Lusa used wasn't really a bug, but they certainly "gamed the system" with it, which the admins obviously didn't like. The easiest way to fix this would be to put like a 24hr timer on moving members to new regimes. It's a pretty simple fix.
This akill was about families "abusing" a display bug that would make accounts appear as CDC/GF when they were in fact not CDC/GF. It didn't make any account stronger since the KA did the right thing anyway (you can find logs from the devs saying that in this thread.)
Anonymous (18:09:18 - 06-12)
Anonymous at 16:09:01 on 06/12:
You are missing Smul's point. Lusa didn't simply keep their members offline so they stayed listed as CD on their profile. That would have been harmless. What the Lusa GF did was shuffle members around to one capo's regime so that when he logged on he would have the regime strength to promote to CD again and could SHOOT at that rank. Therefore it did influence the KA.
This tactic was rinsed and repeated dozens of times. If you don't believe me, use this site to look at the promotion history of all the Lusa top accounts. They all demoted to Brug and repromoted to CD/GF like 6-7 times each. If they had just harmlessly stayed offline like people are saying, that would not have happened.
This tactic Lusa used wasn't really a bug, but they certainly "gamed the system" with it, which the admins obviously didn't like. The easiest way to fix this would be to put like a 24hr timer on moving members to new regimes. It's a pretty simple fix.
Anonymous at 15:37:56 on 06/12:
Does it matter how many times you do it or how long you do it? If I bug only once a week I should get a lighter punishment over others who bug every day of the week? This kind of 'bugs' can even happen by accident and since it has no influence on KA and has been reported multiple times with admins saying it's not top priority due to not affecting the game, why is it so important now?
Smul at 15:16:39 on 06/12:
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
Pipoz at 12:17:44 on 06/12:
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
This is ridiculous, seriously this isnt a bug- staying offline just to keep account CD/GF this has been used from 3.0+ i dunno what admins doing these days, or maybe they are blind, or probably new noob admins at the moment.
A lot of family used that in this version, none got AKILLED! and now at the end GF of Lusa (the best account on game) get akilled and now Aranea, this is bullshit.
And you other guys who talking shit cheater bla bla bla, got only 1 answer - 60,000 in your ass.
Thanks all bloods who played with us, except 1 which is being pussy and they know who they are no need names.
Regards
Pipoz@Prophecy
It is not about staying offline to maintain your CD rank. It is about tops moving theremaining people in the family around to keep (read: repromote) all your capo's CD.
To all the people who say there have been many instances where this happened, I think you are strongly exaggerating to make yourself feel better.
Not many families have survived a war for such a long time, that all their members got killed while their capo's remained alive, to have the need to move members around because you can't keep all regimes at 750 or higher.
If this is so prevalent in Omerta, please give me an example or 10 of other fams doing it.
Besides that, about it happening since 3.0, that's bullshit. Regimestrength has only been implemented in 4.x.
Does it matter how many times you do it or how long you do it? If I bug only once a week I should get a lighter punishment over others who bug every day of the week? This kind of 'bugs' can even happen by accident and since it has no influence on KA and has been reported multiple times with admins saying it's not top priority due to not affecting the game, why is it so important now?
You are missing Smul's point. Lusa didn't simply keep their members offline so they stayed listed as CD on their profile. That would have been harmless. What the Lusa GF did was shuffle members around to one capo's regime so that when he logged on he would have the regime strength to promote to CD again and could SHOOT at that rank. Therefore it did influence the KA.
This tactic was rinsed and repeated dozens of times. If you don't believe me, use this site to look at the promotion history of all the Lusa top accounts. They all demoted to Brug and repromoted to CD/GF like 6-7 times each. If they had just harmlessly stayed offline like people are saying, that would not have happened.
This tactic Lusa used wasn't really a bug, but they certainly "gamed the system" with it, which the admins obviously didn't like. The easiest way to fix this would be to put like a 24hr timer on moving members to new regimes. It's a pretty simple fix.
But shuffling around capo regimes for strength is not a bug. It's great tactic to promote 1 CD everytime he gets online to shoot a member. This also means the other 'visual CDs' don't have that strenght and are just 'regular offline brugliones' for the KA. So how does the 'visual CD bug' affect KA? It doesn't. The thing that has effect on KA is the fact they get enough strenght into 1 account (who comes online) to promote and shoot. Which is in fact totally legit. If they akill for 'things they don't like', then they might as well kill every family that bloods, gangbangs or pact. Next to that on my family I remember we always tried to get enough capo regime strenght to make sure our online shooters are CD. Why didn't I get an akill? Its selective akilling, it sure as hell disbalances the game in every way.
M-Gunner (17:38:46 - 06-12)
Anonymous at 16:58:47 on 06/12:
cry about this cd bug abuse while most fams abuse money bugs ruin objects and have massa dupes yes we are realy the big cheaters here for abusing this *cd bug* wich is here sins the start of this capo system and admins never changed and everyone used before
like no fam ever changed spots when they didnt had enough ppl for cd so they could shoot a cd
that it doesnt change back when the ppl are gone is our fault but a failture of the game ofc you like to call us cheaters while your prob checking your dupes right now
Anonymous at 16:43:53 on 06/12:
You are for abusing something with your so called "shiity" family
Aranea at 16:34:46 on 06/12:
at least I still dare to show my face ,and not post something personal without a name :D
who is the shiity part of us two?:P
Anonymous at 02:06:39 on 06/12:
aranea aranea aranea ,,, when i used to play she was shit player wtf is going on in this world xD
aranea aranea aranea ,,, when i used to play she was shit player wtf is going on in this world xD
who is the shiity part of us two?:P
You are for abusing something with your so called "shiity" family
cry about this cd bug abuse while most fams abuse money bugs ruin objects and have massa dupes yes we are realy the big cheaters here for abusing this *cd bug* wich is here sins the start of this capo system and admins never changed and everyone used before
like no fam ever changed spots when they didnt had enough ppl for cd so they could shoot a cd
that it doesnt change back when the ppl are gone is our fault but a failture of the game ofc you like to call us cheaters while your prob checking your dupes right now
Dude.. come one man really ? lol People still trying to defend it ? shit is too funny loool "Sigh"
Anonymous (16:58:47 - 06-12)
Anonymous at 16:43:53 on 06/12:
You are for abusing something with your so called "shiity" family
Aranea at 16:34:46 on 06/12:
at least I still dare to show my face ,and not post something personal without a name :D
who is the shiity part of us two?:P
Anonymous at 02:06:39 on 06/12:
aranea aranea aranea ,,, when i used to play she was shit player wtf is going on in this world xD
aranea aranea aranea ,,, when i used to play she was shit player wtf is going on in this world xD
who is the shiity part of us two?:P
You are for abusing something with your so called "shiity" family
cry about this cd bug abuse while most fams abuse money bugs ruin objects and have massa dupes yes we are realy the big cheaters here for abusing this *cd bug* wich is here sins the start of this capo system and admins never changed and everyone used before
like no fam ever changed spots when they didnt had enough ppl for cd so they could shoot a cd
that it doesnt change back when the ppl are gone is our fault but a failture of the game ofc you like to call us cheaters while your prob checking your dupes right now