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12-11 Urgent Fury
Author: mmm
Last updated: 3449d 11h 35m 18s ago by mmm
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Votes: 5 (3.6 average)
Version: 4.7.1
Involved families: Atom, Avaritia, Catania, Interficio, Krays, Peakys, Provenzano, Renocenti, Samagono, Scarleone, Slayer, Sovereign, Velentza, Aeterna, Burguesia, Casappa, Jannisary, Karadeniz, Kurosawa, Literary, Lusa, Prophecy, Psychonymous, Siberia
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Siberia, Lusa and Aeterna+ are under attack by a number of families.

It's unclear which of the attacking fams are focussing on exactly. The attacking families known so far are Avaritia, Atom, Provenzano, Renocenti+, Samagono, Krays, Velentza, Catania, Peakys and Sovereign.

Jannisary+ decides to jump in and is aiming their tommies at Renocenti+.

Prophecy joins the counter and blows bullets towards Krays.

Interficio comes into the mix and targets Prophecy. Lusa responds by shooting Interficio.

Burguesia counters on Catania.
Kurosawa joins the counter and targets Krays.

In the morning after, the shooting still continues on as admins decide to interfere by akilling about 11 lc+ from Aeterna/Lusa/Siberia.

During the afternoon Scarleone decides to step in and creates somewhat of a wave of dead bodies from the Siberia family.

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Round 2:

Jannisary+ starts to shoot at Burguesia.
Kurosawa already had detectives on Jannisary it seems, their counter began almost immediately on Jannisary+.
Psychonymous and Scarleone join the counter on Jannisary+.

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Round 3:

During the third day in the afternoon the gangsters of the Aeterna family came together and decided it was time to prepare an organised attack while still being shot upon. They opened fire on the Avaritia family and left a trail of bodies in the proces, Avaritia quickly fired back with making a few kills also.
The families Atom, Peakys, and Interficio are also firing shots at Aeterna.
It would seem Lusa came to the aid of Aeterna, as they unleashed a strike versus Interficio and thus adding more bodies to the already giant massacre in baraland.

The following days a number of families consisting of Atom, Sovereign and Scarleone worked together to bring down the remaining forces of Siberia.

Karadeniz was the only family left with a few highranks from the once big Jannisary+ alliance. When someone from Karadeniz shot down a brug from Kurosawa, they decided it was time to finish off Karadeniz.
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Kvothe (Peakys): Before everything it is game and we need to make it more fun i hope in near future we gonna see equal sides on the game , thats what Peaky Blinders always try to do in this game since 4.5.. In this war we wanted to show noone can touch our bloods nor us and walk away with a one piece. Everyone who will dare to mess with us gonna be punish .

Stailer (Slayer): We ended up to the war unintentionally because our ally Renocenti hired to Lusa. Jannisary then countered this and started to shoot us too. While we were attacked we decided to show that we can't be shot without consequences. So that's why we hired Jannisary and started to shoot back. That ended up our family going down after some hours.We are proud of Slayer members who fought with us!

B|Jack (Avaritia): We had to stand up else this version would had been locked too quickly, As the big fams keep teaming up and therefor destroying the gameplay. We hope that some families will learn a lesson from this and change it, Rip all who died this war.. Finally Never Give Up SharPei


Redvendetta (Sovereign): I'd like to thank the defenders for a good fight. We weren't expecting an easy war and we certainly didn't get one. Kudos for your defence, it was very annoying and that usually means it was rather effective. It wasn't our initial intention to be here again fighting a very familiar war, but when most of the top families have a solid blood connection to each other it becomes a threat which cannot be ignored. For us, this wasn't a grudge match or a protest against 'pacting', it was simply the best move to make in regards to our own family's interests.

Critycal (Siberia): At first we’d like to respond to everyone that talks about the blooding of our families. In the past it has been proven often enough that the #1 will always get a lot of families against them during the first war. If these wars result in a 7v1 gangbang, it’s nothing but common sense that you’d gather some extra allies to be sure you won’t be alone in such wars. Nevertheless, we stood our ground bravely and fought back against all 7 families. At first, we could handle the situation against Sovereign, Provenzano, Atom, Catania, Samagono and Krays, but then some trashfams decided to join in because the attackers couldn’t handle these ponies on their own sadly enough. Why would you even start a war like this if you lack skills to finish it with 6 fans? Sadly enough there are still families like Scalene and Avaritia that decide to join in on gangbangs like this when there’s no danger of getting shot anymore. Funny to see how Scarleone backed out immediately after getting their top accounts shot by our defenders. Trust me, we will be back for you. Our respect goes out to some of the attacking families that didn’t step out of the war even when they’ve lost all their topaccounts.
It has been a tough fight but we still survived for 5 days after we’ve got shot. Our love goes out to all of our brave ponies that supported us this version and we’d like to see you back next round!

Thijsrockt (Renocenti): At our debut we noticed quite a huge pact. Therefore we decided to hit them asap. Our preffered target was Lusa since they owned all the spots we wanted. Unfortunately Jannisary+ countered at us so it was quite a short run. Ofc we will be back next time. #Renocenti.recruit o/
statistics
War started on: 21:13:04 12-11-2014 War ended on: 19:23:05 17-11-2014
Bullet difference: -59,700,890 War duration: 4d 22h 10m
Money difference: -$3,551,851,461 Players died: 714




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Dead Families:
[Karadeniz] Family down on 19:18 17-11
[Siberia] Family down on 23:30 16-11
[Casappa] Family down on 02:59 15-11
[Jannisary] Family down on 23:45 14-11
[Aeterna] Family down on 23:19 14-11
[Literary] Family down on 12:46 14-11
[Renocenti] Family down on 08:42 13-11
[Slayer] Family down on 02:57 13-11
[Krays] Family down on 02:45 13-11
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Aeterna | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 3 | chief: 8 | brug: 42 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 630
Atom | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 5 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 157
Avaritia | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 12 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 181
Burguesia | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 135
Casappa | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 166
Catania | swin: 5 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 13 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 189
Interficio | swin: 2 | assa: 2 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 23 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 331
Jannisary | swin: 5 | assa: 5 | lc: 8 | chief: 3 | brug: 49 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 729
Karadeniz | swin: 1 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 16 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 241
Krays | swin: 0 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 4 | brug: 9 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 157
Kurosawa | swin: 2 | assa: 3 | lc: 1 | chief: 3 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 188
Literary | swin: 3 | assa: 6 | lc: 3 | chief: 3 | brug: 6 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 142
Lusa | swin: 5 | assa: 3 | lc: 4 | chief: 7 | brug: 11 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 238
Peakys | swin: 3 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 16 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 216
Prophecy | swin: 2 | assa: 1 | lc: 2 | chief: 2 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 124
Provenzano | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 2 | brug: 15 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 217
Psychonymous | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 52
Renocenti | swin: 1 | assa: 3 | lc: 4 | chief: 2 | brug: 24 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 360
Samagono | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 1 | brug: 7 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 99
Scarleone | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 52
Siberia | swin: 2 | assa: 3 | lc: 11 | chief: 11 | brug: 48 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 784
Slayer | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 2 | brug: 5 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 81
Sovereign | swin: 0 | assa: 2 | lc: 0 | chief: 3 | brug: 14 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 212
Velentza | swin: 1 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 54
Total | swin: 37 | assa: 36 | lc: 41 | chief: 66 | brug: 369 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 5,735
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sibedupe (20:50:58 - 14-11)
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Anonymous at 20:07:27 on 14/11:
all those stories of siberia dupes/cheats whatever are old
try thinking some new :w

ok i tell u a new story.... siberia is full of dupes
Anonymous (20:47:49 - 14-11)
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Fillip at 18:38:06 on 14/11:
@Gkn

You show your face with comment on Kolmogorov's rip

"RIH SERBIAN SON OF A BITCH"

With that you show who you really are,no matter what is outcome of war...




No need to cry little girl
inf` Netherlands (20:28:01 - 14-11)
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Pretty hard to get an offense going Soph when there's multiple families shooting at you :)
Anonymous (20:07:27 - 14-11)
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all those stories of siberia dupes/cheats whatever are old
try thinking some new :w
Anonymous (19:46:15 - 14-11)
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They call him murderdick, because he like... Chopped off his dick and has fantasies making stories and talking to his dupes on a dead text game.
Soph Netherlands (19:45:19 - 14-11)
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Topdog at 19:43:42 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.

What's the alternative? Make offline as weak as online at defending which goes back to the old ways of just dropping a whole family in 60 seconds without any BF kills when done properly. At least now organised families can mount a come back. Aeterna were always going to lose this fight without backup but at least we were able to regroup, organise and actually mount a bit of a counter - alone. Until more families jumped in on the "shoot Aeterna" train. :D

Make offline timer 10 minutes after you log out, instead of 5. Gives everyone a bigger window of opportunity to shoot, and doesn't hurt people who know in advance they'll get shot.
Topdog United Kingdom (19:43:42 - 14-11)
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Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.

What's the alternative? Make offline as weak as online at defending which goes back to the old ways of just dropping a whole family in 60 seconds without any BF kills when done properly. At least now organised families can mount a come back. Aeterna were always going to lose this fight without backup but at least we were able to regroup, organise and actually mount a bit of a counter - alone. Until more families jumped in on the "shoot Aeterna" train. :D
Soph Netherlands (19:22:48 - 14-11)
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Johnx at 18:45:02 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:38:17 on 14/11:
Johnx at 18:35:47 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:31:37 on 14/11:
Johnx at 18:25:25 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:
Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
If we had anything near half the versions strenght, this whole thing would have turned out way different. And even if the so called pact doesn't team up, we will still be gangbanged, since we're the only ones who takes any initiative to start first wars, and thereby put ourselves in a vulnerable position. Also people will always gangbang fams like sib, no matter who their bloods are, just due to their size. How can you blame them for choosing to try and defend themselves by having other strong bloods, whom you can somewhat count on. No top should go up, just to get his members gangbanged everytime, if so you are doing a bad job as a top, and you know that sophje :(

So... since everyone gets ganbanged regardlessly, no top should ever put their fam up again? We might just stop playing alltogether if that's the case Johnx. Since every fam gets gangbanged. Krays doesn't need to go up anymore at least, this version we got gangbanged with our 9 brugs by Kurosawa / Siberia / Prophecy and Lusa. All bigger than us ^_^
things is Krays isn't gangbanged at the start of every version, you actually have a chance not to be gangbanged, unlike Aeterna, unless we move first every fams sight will be on us, which we have seen lots of times. and you started as the shooters in this one.

That worked so well for us last version, not starting to shoot. Have you got failing memory Johnx?
I wasn't around last version, so my memory works fine, but it seems you were shot at the start of the first big war, how often has that happened in the last 10 versions

Krays wasn't around a lot in the last 10 versions. We started back up last version, got gangbanged at the start. So that tactic doesn't work, now we use a different one, I don't see your point Johnx, if you don't have one please refrain from discussing further. At laest our reaction on being gangbanged isn't blooding 6 top 10 fams, but planning to enact revenge upon our haters!
MurderInc Austria (19:00:46 - 14-11)
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Adam at 18:40:06 on 14/11:
MurderInc at 14:54:15 on 14/11:
No, I'm not complaining. I'm just telling this degenerate who thinks Siberia is being run by 3 people who each have 20 dupes that maybe there's a different reason for why we might be happy about getting a ceasefire with one family or another. We do have about 50 people in our member channel on average. I'm sure they'll all be glad to hear they're my dupes. Other than my akill 4 versions ago, there hasn't been a single incident where Siberia was busted for any kind of cheating. We didn't get busted when the last 2 or 3 exploits were found and fixed. We have a below average number of akills each version (I'm sorry, but when you have about 120 members, no kind of vetting process can prevent a few akills here and there. We had 2 LC+ akills this version, 1 last version and 3 two versions ago. Big deal. Feel free to verify those numbers yourself.)

As for your whole pact bullshit, well, we hear that every version and yet every version you can see that the fams Siberia, Aeterna and Lusa are blooded to act like any other blood in times of war. I don't see a whole lot of talk about the "Anti-Siberia-Pact" (fill in Aeterna/Lusa if you prefer) consisting of all the families that are shooting us. Why? Because they are not a fucking pact. Just like Siberia, Aeterna and Lusa and all of their bloods are not a fucking pact. I'm sure you can understand that since we have tried two different strategies in the last 2 versions with regards to our bloods (including keeping our blood count relatively low considering our size) and still found ourselves getting targeted by half the version eventually, we decided to try a new strategy this time. It might have resulted in having more bloods than you would consider appropriate, but hey, guess how much of a fuck I give about that. We have a certain responsibility towards our member base, and getting banged version after version isn't fun for anyone. I'm terribly sorry that some shitfams aren't capable of attracting a similar member base and feel the need to call us massdupers, but hey, that's your problem, not mine.

OKAY, RANT OVER, LET THE TEARS START FLOWING.

No one thinks its 3 people running 20 accounts. We know it's more like 15 people running 4 accounts. We also know that there is work involved in cheating. While I appreciate the trouble you went to in creating multiple IRC accounts, it doesn't change the fact that your family is full of dupe accounts.

What do you mean by "keeping our blood count relatively low considering our size"? Your family with all its dupe accounts is usually one of the top 3 families at the start. Considering your family's size, shouldn't you have fewer bloods than anyone? Instead, you have more than most from the start. What new strategy have you tried, anyway? Blooding different families in hopes of leading them to fight your other enemies while you sit offline and point.. Pact has been doing that since before Siberia replaced Lucchese. You guys just replaced someone who got tired of being a pretender.

I guess that sums it up though.. Pretending to be good by pretending that no one knows you're a bunch of cheats. If anyone is crying, it should be you who can't seem to fit in and survive with legit families.
Well I guess you're just yet another noob who thinks he knows how politics work in this game. It's an unfortunate fact that the bigger your family is, the more likely it is you'll find yourself on the receiving end of a major gangbang, thus leading to big fams blooding a lot of other fams. Anyone who disputes this should check up on the wars of the last 20 versions. Anyone remember Luccheses pledge? Trololol. I've played 2 versions in Faffie where we had 2 or 3 mid-sized bloods while being top 3 ourselves, and we got gangbanged in each and every one of them. Can you point to a single version that was won by families who didn't have at least 5 relatively big families as blood (and in the case of some turk fams, about 20 as1's)? I don't think so.

Anyway, no point in arguing with someone who calls us a bunch of cheats with no proof whatsoever. Siberia was a .nl fam originally and we had at least 30-40 Brugs every version even back then. When we came to .com, a big chunk of the Faffie member base joined us, and we did some recruiting as well (something you obviously suck at). I see a lot of fams get 20-30 akills every version, and still no one constantly accuses them of being a bunch of cheats. Heck, Empire had about 50 akills this version before fams were even up, yet I don't see anyone crying about Sovereign (where the Empire player base is playing this version).
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Johnx Denmark (18:45:02 - 14-11)
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Soph at 18:38:17 on 14/11:
Johnx at 18:35:47 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:31:37 on 14/11:
Johnx at 18:25:25 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:
Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
If we had anything near half the versions strenght, this whole thing would have turned out way different. And even if the so called pact doesn't team up, we will still be gangbanged, since we're the only ones who takes any initiative to start first wars, and thereby put ourselves in a vulnerable position. Also people will always gangbang fams like sib, no matter who their bloods are, just due to their size. How can you blame them for choosing to try and defend themselves by having other strong bloods, whom you can somewhat count on. No top should go up, just to get his members gangbanged everytime, if so you are doing a bad job as a top, and you know that sophje :(

So... since everyone gets ganbanged regardlessly, no top should ever put their fam up again? We might just stop playing alltogether if that's the case Johnx. Since every fam gets gangbanged. Krays doesn't need to go up anymore at least, this version we got gangbanged with our 9 brugs by Kurosawa / Siberia / Prophecy and Lusa. All bigger than us ^_^
things is Krays isn't gangbanged at the start of every version, you actually have a chance not to be gangbanged, unlike Aeterna, unless we move first every fams sight will be on us, which we have seen lots of times. and you started as the shooters in this one.

That worked so well for us last version, not starting to shoot. Have you got failing memory Johnx?
I wasn't around last version, so my memory works fine, but it seems you were shot at the start of the first big war, how often has that happened in the last 10 versions
Adam (18:40:06 - 14-11)
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MurderInc at 14:54:15 on 14/11:
No, I'm not complaining. I'm just telling this degenerate who thinks Siberia is being run by 3 people who each have 20 dupes that maybe there's a different reason for why we might be happy about getting a ceasefire with one family or another. We do have about 50 people in our member channel on average. I'm sure they'll all be glad to hear they're my dupes. Other than my akill 4 versions ago, there hasn't been a single incident where Siberia was busted for any kind of cheating. We didn't get busted when the last 2 or 3 exploits were found and fixed. We have a below average number of akills each version (I'm sorry, but when you have about 120 members, no kind of vetting process can prevent a few akills here and there. We had 2 LC+ akills this version, 1 last version and 3 two versions ago. Big deal. Feel free to verify those numbers yourself.)

As for your whole pact bullshit, well, we hear that every version and yet every version you can see that the fams Siberia, Aeterna and Lusa are blooded to act like any other blood in times of war. I don't see a whole lot of talk about the "Anti-Siberia-Pact" (fill in Aeterna/Lusa if you prefer) consisting of all the families that are shooting us. Why? Because they are not a fucking pact. Just like Siberia, Aeterna and Lusa and all of their bloods are not a fucking pact. I'm sure you can understand that since we have tried two different strategies in the last 2 versions with regards to our bloods (including keeping our blood count relatively low considering our size) and still found ourselves getting targeted by half the version eventually, we decided to try a new strategy this time. It might have resulted in having more bloods than you would consider appropriate, but hey, guess how much of a fuck I give about that. We have a certain responsibility towards our member base, and getting banged version after version isn't fun for anyone. I'm terribly sorry that some shitfams aren't capable of attracting a similar member base and feel the need to call us massdupers, but hey, that's your problem, not mine.

OKAY, RANT OVER, LET THE TEARS START FLOWING.

No one thinks its 3 people running 20 accounts. We know it's more like 15 people running 4 accounts. We also know that there is work involved in cheating. While I appreciate the trouble you went to in creating multiple IRC accounts, it doesn't change the fact that your family is full of dupe accounts.

What do you mean by "keeping our blood count relatively low considering our size"? Your family with all its dupe accounts is usually one of the top 3 families at the start. Considering your family's size, shouldn't you have fewer bloods than anyone? Instead, you have more than most from the start. What new strategy have you tried, anyway? Blooding different families in hopes of leading them to fight your other enemies while you sit offline and point.. Pact has been doing that since before Siberia replaced Lucchese. You guys just replaced someone who got tired of being a pretender.

I guess that sums it up though.. Pretending to be good by pretending that no one knows you're a bunch of cheats. If anyone is crying, it should be you who can't seem to fit in and survive with legit families.
Vaas Netherlands (18:38:54 - 14-11)
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Soph Netherlands (18:38:17 - 14-11)
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Johnx at 18:35:47 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:31:37 on 14/11:
Johnx at 18:25:25 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:
Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
If we had anything near half the versions strenght, this whole thing would have turned out way different. And even if the so called pact doesn't team up, we will still be gangbanged, since we're the only ones who takes any initiative to start first wars, and thereby put ourselves in a vulnerable position. Also people will always gangbang fams like sib, no matter who their bloods are, just due to their size. How can you blame them for choosing to try and defend themselves by having other strong bloods, whom you can somewhat count on. No top should go up, just to get his members gangbanged everytime, if so you are doing a bad job as a top, and you know that sophje :(

So... since everyone gets ganbanged regardlessly, no top should ever put their fam up again? We might just stop playing alltogether if that's the case Johnx. Since every fam gets gangbanged. Krays doesn't need to go up anymore at least, this version we got gangbanged with our 9 brugs by Kurosawa / Siberia / Prophecy and Lusa. All bigger than us ^_^
things is Krays isn't gangbanged at the start of every version, you actually have a chance not to be gangbanged, unlike Aeterna, unless we move first every fams sight will be on us, which we have seen lots of times. and you started as the shooters in this one.

That worked so well for us last version, not starting to shoot. Have you got failing memory Johnx?
Fillip Serbia (18:38:06 - 14-11)
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@Gkn

You show your face with comment on Kolmogorov's rip

"RIH SERBIAN SON OF A BITCH"

With that you show who you really are,no matter what is outcome of war...

Johnx Denmark (18:35:47 - 14-11)
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Soph at 18:31:37 on 14/11:
Johnx at 18:25:25 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:
Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
If we had anything near half the versions strenght, this whole thing would have turned out way different. And even if the so called pact doesn't team up, we will still be gangbanged, since we're the only ones who takes any initiative to start first wars, and thereby put ourselves in a vulnerable position. Also people will always gangbang fams like sib, no matter who their bloods are, just due to their size. How can you blame them for choosing to try and defend themselves by having other strong bloods, whom you can somewhat count on. No top should go up, just to get his members gangbanged everytime, if so you are doing a bad job as a top, and you know that sophje :(

So... since everyone gets ganbanged regardlessly, no top should ever put their fam up again? We might just stop playing alltogether if that's the case Johnx. Since every fam gets gangbanged. Krays doesn't need to go up anymore at least, this version we got gangbanged with our 9 brugs by Kurosawa / Siberia / Prophecy and Lusa. All bigger than us ^_^
things is Krays isn't gangbanged at the start of every version, you actually have a chance not to be gangbanged, unlike Aeterna, unless we move first every fams sight will be on us, which we have seen lots of times. and you started as the shooters in this one.
Soph Netherlands (18:31:37 - 14-11)
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Johnx at 18:25:25 on 14/11:
Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:
Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
If we had anything near half the versions strenght, this whole thing would have turned out way different. And even if the so called pact doesn't team up, we will still be gangbanged, since we're the only ones who takes any initiative to start first wars, and thereby put ourselves in a vulnerable position. Also people will always gangbang fams like sib, no matter who their bloods are, just due to their size. How can you blame them for choosing to try and defend themselves by having other strong bloods, whom you can somewhat count on. No top should go up, just to get his members gangbanged everytime, if so you are doing a bad job as a top, and you know that sophje :(

So... since everyone gets ganbanged regardlessly, no top should ever put their fam up again? We might just stop playing alltogether if that's the case Johnx. Since every fam gets gangbanged. Krays doesn't need to go up anymore at least, this version we got gangbanged with our 9 brugs by Kurosawa / Siberia / Prophecy and Lusa. All bigger than us ^_^
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Soph at 18:18:15 on 14/11:
Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
If we had anything near half the versions strenght, this whole thing would have turned out way different. And even if the so called pact doesn't team up, we will still be gangbanged, since we're the only ones who takes any initiative to start first wars, and thereby put ourselves in a vulnerable position. Also people will always gangbang fams like sib, no matter who their bloods are, just due to their size. How can you blame them for choosing to try and defend themselves by having other strong bloods, whom you can somewhat count on. No top should go up, just to get his members gangbanged everytime, if so you are doing a bad job as a top, and you know that sophje :(
*edit and for the offline tactics; that is what you should do, if you have any plans of tirering your opponent and then hit them back, sadly sometimes the system derps out
Soph Netherlands (18:18:15 - 14-11)
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Critycal at 16:49:36 on 14/11:

Implying we had a chance of surviving if we didn't group up.
If we didn't have allies we would have been an even easier prey to all of you.

All of these so called "Trash" fams wouldn't feel the need to shoot you, if you didn't bunch up like you did. You have half the versions strenght in your pact, probably even more if Janni and Burgueisa and Kuro didn't start shooting eachother. Remember they were fighting on your side the first day.


I really dislike this villa hugging as well, I don't think Sib is the one to blame though. Lusa and Aet are worse offenders ^_^ and I bet some attacking fams have been villa hugging as well.
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Killerzzz at 17:07:56 on 14/11:
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Critycal at 16:41:59 on 14/11:
If we have been villahugging, please explain this:

Olympus Bruglione Sovereign Capo
Larry Bruglione Sovereign Capo
Perkamentus Bruglione Sovereign Capo
Archer Bruglione Sovereign Capo
Nikia Bruglione Sovereign Sotto
Youngblood Bruglione Catania Don
(BF) Maldini Bruglione Provenzano Don
Kikimora Bruglione Catania Capo and
Capriani Bruglione Provenzano Capo
Sephiroth Bruglione Atom Consig
Knele Bruglione Atom Don
Nocab Bruglione Provenzano Capo
Iana Bruglione Samagono Don
Valeriy Bruglione Catania Capo
Hardrada Bruglione Catania Don
Elanaconda Bruglione Samagono Don
Luther Bruglione Provenzano Capo
Hardcore Bruglione Sovereign Capo
Bates Bruglione Sovereign Don
Bergzilla Bruglione Provenzano Don
Blighter Bruglione Sovereign Don
Razzil Bruglione Scarleone Capo
Selt Bruglione Sovereign Capo
Coverdale Bruglione Atom Capo
Clear Bruglione Samagono Don


This are even only the capo/top3 kills that have been confirmed to be ours.
I left the "regular brug" + the Krays kills out (from the point where Proph started shooting).

Note that besides this we have been alone against Sov/Atom/Sama/Scarleone whilst getting shot continuously by Catania, Krays and Avaritia aswell.

Also, yes, we did have a lot of brugs.
Still, highrank numbers don't count when there are 7 families against you with each their top3+capos+"above average" brug accounts.
Let's assume each fam has AT LEAST 2 capo's and a top3 that's loaded, don't you think it might actually be a bit harder to defend?
Actually, I'd prefer 2 fams of our size over 7 trashfams like these as attackers.

most of those kills were made after a day / day and a half into the war, shooters in this war had to wait for your accounts to pop online (which most of them didnt) and if they did it was to quickly check if they had a backfire and had to refill blood / train bgs, denying it is pretty stupid =p
sorry to disappoint you, but two thirds of the kills mentioned above happened within the first 12 hours of this war.

most of those kills wouldnt have been able after 12 hours if this ka didnt favor offline acc =p and those high accounts that made the kills would most likely been killed already

What the fuck is your argument really? Understanding and knowing how to act according to the KA is a vital part of the game. Siberia fought back and delivered huge losses to a multitude of attackers due to that reason. I hate people who try to undermine others achievements. Sib logged off when major hiring was going on to regroup and figure out how to fight this off as good as they could.

Other than that it was a necessary war for the attackers, big losses or not. Kudos for going through with it!

I can confirm, as a participant of the attacking side, that Siberia haven't been villa hugging for the majority of the war. They managed to kill a lot of the best accounts from the families which were attacking them. Their accounts were very strong, online or offline they were getting kills. Sadly, due to the KA, this is a smart defence, so it's impossible for me to begrudge Siberia for their extensive offline sessions. It's the smart response to being shot, and part of the reason Jannisary failed so miserably in their 'defending' is because it's a tactic they're yet to learn. In fact, Jannisary don't seem to be capable of any form thinking whatsoever, nevermind tactics - almost everything they did this version was the opposite of what they should have done.

Until the villa gets fixed, so it isn't instant, and doesn't last forever - this is how wars will look between any fams who remotely know what they're doing.

Respect to the pact as always, tough motherf*ckers. A tip for the future, perhaps; a pact should never blood other large, strong families who may have their own agenda.