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19-09 Busted!
Author: MurderInc
Last updated: 3504d 18h 15m 35s ago by Smul
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Version: 4.7
Involved families: Admins, Sanotori
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The Sanotori family got taken down by the crew for exploiting a money bug in poker.
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War started on: 12:10:03 19-09-2014 War ended on: 12:20:04 19-09-2014
Bullet difference: -1,559,596 War duration: 10m
Money difference: -$263,185,884 Players died: 6




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Dead Families:
[Sanotori] Family down on 12:12 19-09
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Sanotori | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
Total | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 39
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SharPei (14:37:46 - 19-09)
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Bug.. what bug? ;d
Anonymous (14:21:04 - 19-09)
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Everybody talking here seems to know its been happening for some time, but yet only 3akill for bug abuse, what about all those people who play fair and have used real cash to sell dc's to buy bullets will they be given there money back i dont think so, all these people who shot like 1mill in 1st war how the fuck u got money to get that many bullets come on get a fucking grip and lets see all cheaters akilled :')
MurderInc Austria (13:50:02 - 19-09)
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Moke at 13:29:13 on 19/09:
MurderInc at 13:19:18 on 19/09:
So, for a bug that's been around for years without ever getting busted, it seems a lot of people claim to know exactly who's been using it. Maybe you should have reported this bug at some point, since you seem to know so much?

Nvm, I forgot you're just doing the usual "boohoo, they killed me, they were using the bug too, I know it!"-dance.

Shame on all the devs and admins of bara. Fools cant find a bug in a game they build themselves. NOOBS.

But what would you have expected Muderinc. that if theres a glitch in the game people who play to win go tell a bunch of blind admins??
And i also think that if they would have told it to the devs they couldnt even find the bug even if they were standing on it.
The people who wrote the poker code probably don't even work there anymore. Obviously Omerta's management was unable to hire a competent dev team for quite some years, but blaming the current team for the shortcomings of whoever made those errors would be wrong. There's a reason why so many bugs are being found now, at least 2 rp bugs and 3 money bugs were fixed in the last year or so. Finding this stuff isn't always easy. We might actually see a version without any insanely OP exploits now.

I'm sure the bug would've been found faster if it wasn't for Messina keeping a tight grip on this. That's why I think it's funny to see people claiming they know for sure that other top fams had it too.

Anonymous at 13:43:48 on 19/09:
Kcode can't even fix when he knows, the villabug still works even when reported 3 times how it worked. Not to mention the Numbergame, Roulette, Slotmachine and Guards bugs that still exist (and are reported for months how they work).

The problem is also that most he adds ingame is bugged, lackeys 4 times? Spotobjects? etc etc

The coding is just awefull, they need to rewrite it for most parts but instead they waste time on new layouts and bugged new addons.

Also poker had the splitpot bug and the timeout bug before and now this, meaning it's just bad coding also and not 1 accident. And what ive heard is that there are still more bugs inside poker.
If you know about the bugs you mentioned and can't get any reaction from the crew, just leak them here, that usually speeds things up quite a bit. :3
Anonymous (13:46:26 - 19-09)
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Pug doesnt have anything to do with the abusing, he is just a rat who heard stuff and ran to Kcode.

I will not go into details or name names but a few points to assure people how big they got fucked in the past years due to incompetent developers, sleeping administrators and mods. This is bigger than any other bug abuse we have known.

The bug first appeared in 3.0, during the time of great players like Invisible and Pepino. Yes, it´s that old. Pepino´s casino received hundreds of millions a day, he didnt knew anything about it though.

It started with a very small group of players who knew about it but unfortunately the group who knew about it grew by the years. The rumours got louder and louder. One thing never changed though; very,very few people actually knew how to do it. The nature of the bug leaved absolutely no trace in the log files the game keeps, accounts actually got frozen in the past but they never had any logs to proof the abuse. Brando himself was staring right at it but couldnt understand it.

Ever since 3.0(2009) hundreds of millions got pumped into the game every day. On a good day, when wars would help cover up the created money, up to a billion would be created to help funding the wars. At one point the entire top 20 would be sponsored by the bug, in one way or another. Most of the #1 players in every version since 3.0 had some kind of connection to the bug.

Alot of wars got changed simply because one side could afford to give warmoney to their entire fam. When a exploiter got bored he would simply pump hundreds of millions into a roulette and help win a fam a version..without the fam even knowing where the cash came from.

The most affected versions were .nl and .com.

It was literally a time of the Wild West. No admin control, you could create 200 million in a hour without any triggering any red flags.

You can fill in the names yourself, it doesnt really matter.
Bigpapa Liberia (13:44:50 - 19-09)
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Anonymous at 13:11:17 on 19/09:
bigpapa pls shut up, your family used the exact same exploits

We used another one and we got punished
Anonymous (13:43:48 - 19-09)
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MurderInc at 13:27:57 on 19/09:
Anonymous at 13:22:05 on 19/09:
Btw didn't Kcode said a while back that there is not a bug in poker? That he looked it through? Shame on you! You never find anything for yourself and allways relying on players to exactly report how a thing works. So I guess there still is not 1 version who was played fair? We might as well retire..
There's no such thing as bug-free software. Obviously this shit was around for way too long, but it's kinda weird to get pissed about someone actually fixing this. Who said anything about players reporting how it worked?

Kcode can't even fix when he knows, the villabug still works even when reported 3 times how it worked. Not to mention the Numbergame, Roulette, Slotmachine and Guards bugs that still exist (and are reported for months how they work).

The problem is also that most he adds ingame is bugged, lackeys 4 times? Spotobjects? etc etc

The coding is just awefull, they need to rewrite it for most parts but instead they waste time on new layouts and bugged new addons.

Also poker had the splitpot bug and the timeout bug before and now this, meaning it's just bad coding also and not 1 accident. And what ive heard is that there are still more bugs inside poker.
Moke (13:29:13 - 19-09)
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MurderInc at 13:19:18 on 19/09:
So, for a bug that's been around for years without ever getting busted, it seems a lot of people claim to know exactly who's been using it. Maybe you should have reported this bug at some point, since you seem to know so much?

Nvm, I forgot you're just doing the usual "boohoo, they killed me, they were using the bug too, I know it!"-dance.

Shame on all the devs and admins of bara. Fools cant find a bug in a game they build themselves. NOOBS.

But what would you have expected Muderinc. that if theres a glitch in the game people who play to win go tell a bunch of blind admins??
And i also think that if they would have told it to the devs they couldnt even find the bug even if they were standing on it.
MurderInc Austria (13:27:57 - 19-09)
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Moke at 13:20:49 on 19/09:
why not fix the bug if its known for such a long time??????
Lame lame lame
Knowing about a bug and knowing how it works are two separate things.
Anonymous at 13:22:05 on 19/09:
Btw didn't Kcode said a while back that there is not a bug in poker? That he looked it through? Shame on you! You never find anything for yourself and allways relying on players to exactly report how a thing works. So I guess there still is not 1 version who was played fair? We might as well retire..
There's no such thing as bug-free software. Obviously this shit was around for way too long, but it's kinda weird to get pissed about someone actually fixing this. Who said anything about players reporting how it worked?
Anonymous (13:22:05 - 19-09)
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Btw didn't Kcode said a while back that there is not a bug in poker? That he looked it through? Shame on you! You never find anything for yourself and allways relying on players to exactly report how a thing works. So I guess there still is not 1 version who was played fair? We might as well retire..
Moke (13:20:49 - 19-09)
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why not fix the bug if its known for such a long time??????
Lame lame lame
MurderInc Austria (13:19:18 - 19-09)
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So, for a bug that's been around for years without ever getting busted, it seems a lot of people claim to know exactly who's been using it. Maybe you should have reported this bug at some point, since you seem to know so much?

Nvm, I forgot you're just doing the usual "boohoo, they killed me, they were using the bug too, I know it!"-dance.
Anonymous (13:17:32 - 19-09)
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Bigpapa at 13:08:21 on 19/09:
Anonymous at 12:41:59 on 19/09:
Bigpapa, Beetje hypocriet niet?! Pug gebruikte ook een poker bug en stuurde intern geld rond. Just saying

You mean the guy who actually talked to Kcode about this bug? And who we told not to use the bug?

Yes that dude with the hugeeee banklog full of transfers with cash he can't explain. But Kcode prolly overlooks that since they are friends.
Anonymous (13:11:17 - 19-09)
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bigpapa pls shut up, your family used the exact same exploits
Bigpapa Liberia (13:08:21 - 19-09)
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Anonymous at 12:41:59 on 19/09:
Bigpapa, Beetje hypocriet niet?! Pug gebruikte ook een poker bug en stuurde intern geld rond. Just saying

You mean the guy who actually talked to Kcode about this bug? And who we told not to use the bug?
Anonymous (12:47:09 - 19-09)
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aeterna and siberia use it also. Popcorn!
Anonymous (12:45:27 - 19-09)
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Anonymous at 12:40:46 on 19/09:
The rest wil follow, no worries;)

There wont be a lot of topfams left after the admins are finished. They all use it!
Messina/Sano kept a tight grip on this bug, that's why it took so long to find it. If every top fam had it, it would have been busted within a week.
Anonymous (12:41:59 - 19-09)
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Bigpapa, Beetje hypocriet niet?! Pug gebruikte ook een poker bug en stuurde intern geld rond. Just saying
Anonymous (12:40:46 - 19-09)
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The rest wil follow, no worries;)

There wont be a lot of topfams left after the admins are finished. They all use it!
Anonymous (12:38:47 - 19-09)
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Anonymous at 12:36:55 on 19/09:
What about all the rest, plus it happening in NL aswell, hurry up and get a fucking grip :')
+1
Anonymous (12:36:55 - 19-09)
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What about all the rest, plus it happening in NL aswell, hurry up and get a fucking grip :')