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Today a member of the Lucchese top approached the OB news team with a proposal to improve the quality and longevity of versions. How you might ask? Well he states that Lucchese will only blood 4 families this version. Last version was probably the shortest version in Omerta's history and arguably an all time low point for the game, leaving many players wondering 'why even bother?'
Regardless of that, Lucchese is calling out other top families to limit their blood dealings in order to promote a more diverse game with a multitude of different sides. Families should also be encouraged to list their bloods on their fam page again as it was in the past.
We at OB news wanted to know how other families and players feel about this? Are you in?
Of course we realise there is no way to police such a concept, however after some discussion around the OB table we propose a rating system, similar to scores of war, designed to shine a light on those families, whose toxic game play & blooding is proving detrimental to the game.
Here's how it works.
For example;
Fams #1 - #3 = 4 points
Fams #4 - #7 = 3 points
Fams #8 - #11 = 2 points
Fams #11 - #20 = 1 point
Fams #20+ = 0.5 points
For example if I am a top 3 family and I blood family #5, Family #10 and Family #15 my bloodline is at 10 points, understand?
How many points is too many? In our opinion top 3 families should be rivals not friends.
Q) But what if my bloods grow and move up the rankings? That's not my fault right?
A) Of course not. If that happens then you've obviously played well and achieved success together which is the aim of the game. This is targeted at families who blood many big families with the intention of locking the game.
This is just an example to get people thinking. We are including a poll in this article in which we ask the player base to vote for values they consider acceptable.
At the end of the day Omerta is largely shaped by the player base. Admins can change the game but nothing will change unless the players are willing to change their attitudes. The bottom line is if you want to enjoy a fun, fair and competitive game again you will have to agree, as a COMMUNITY, to certain rules that allow versions to run longer and less one-sided.
Let us know what you think in comments below. If your family agrees with the sentiments of this article and want to put your name forward, like Lucchese, please contact an OB reporter in #News.
Gsbaba (Justice alliance top) Firstly, we are happy about the propose of the Lucchese. But to be honest, what about alliances? What about non-shooting deals, secret bloodings, pacts ? In our opinion, im sure when a war appear, for example, 4 fams joined which are bloods of each other and what about bloods of bloods? This attacking families number always reach 10 fams. So, my friends that means it will not effect to length of version. Other than this , If we all want a longer versions we must ask admins to remove that ks shit. It alienate people who are new in the game. We all know that lone families are getting targeted cuz of this shit ks. Additionaly , i will say sths about scripting too. People who are in firsts pages are abusing busting. In the past it was honorable work. We know admins cant do shit about scripting and we are suggesting that the rps which are gaining from busting should be removed.
Trza (Kurosawa top) 1.First of all I'm very pleased that for the first time in the history of Omerta players of this game are finally asking for something. Omerta as a game in some way has long been "extinct" in respect of all the players who play, a large number of players stopped playing and each version of the game are deacrising .Desile are the sorts of things were introduced henchmen, were various cheats starting from scripts, scratch / scratch to the fact that one version was reset in less than a month, because some acount had 200 helte and more.
2.I believe that together, our players who really play Omerta, which powers our games, our of which depends on the game, that we can and must do something to make the player finally feel the spirit of the game.
3.When I saw the proposal Luchesse family was pleasantly surprised simply because I saw it as a first step, that is the first attempt to change something. Proposal from family Luchesse is very good , try to extand the version . It is one of the most important reasons why my family supported this. Limiting the Bloods minimum number is not too bad suggestion, but we all know that it is impossible to achieve this , no one will be able to to influence that gave one family to have 4 or 10 Bloods. Bloods it's a free choice and free will , but the goal is to extend the version is something primary , which would be all of us players were to benefit . I’m personally sick of it that one version is just so much to all ranking to bruglione and ends after 2 to 3 wars , especially now that is made a "new system " Omerta , where now the attached, and we can notice that the manual acount means more the lackey acount also again have Capodecine. To became Capodecina in caporegime there must be a certain number Worth regime . As we still say that they need active players to capo each individual has to lobby for their caporegim , It must attract the game new players , good players and not dupe acounts , because now with the new system, 5 manuel active players in caporegim worth a lot more than 20 empty dups.
4.I have also read a proposal from Gsbaba where they are to lift the killing skills to prolonged version, I think it also is not bad proposal, however, want to attach myself on this proposal. I think it would be better to reduce the criterion killing skill, for one shooting to give 0.5% or even 1% , so it would be reduced ks farm because it would be necessary to kill some 20 acc to have 20% KS, which is very difficult and requires a lot of time, money and bullets. Also in this way it would be wars for a longer period of time where we all get time and also returns to a common purpose, to prolong version.5.There is a problem within the current games such as cities. All focus is on one city Detroit. In Detroit, the big money is, they are all fighting for the city while the other cities to remain in the shadows because they can not make good economic profit. I think that admins must urgently do something about the issue. My personal suggestion is to introduce increased RP in traveling . But there is some minimal rp when you travel to another city but that% RP is very small, even though she is smaller than a bust-out. I think that if the increased % rp per trip, thus players would become much more active, because everyone wants to have a strong acount, to other cities resurrected depending on the price of drugs and drink.And those who do not want to have a strong ACC can continue to sit in Detroit.
6.I also have to point out some things that happened in the last version. Last edition we have family that won Aeterna version and personally I want to congratulate them on that. But one thing I did not like tof Aeterna. Within this family played Righelli, vaffanculo, Yalta members, Luchesse members, Messina memebrs, venture (fidelitas) members etc ... I understand why so played by them, jump to Capodecine and caporezim, the joint forces had many strong family. Worthof family and Worth capo and thus were more stronger .But it was a very bad example to the other players, because it can happen this version to a dozen families unite in 2-3 family, what we all get then? Again the short version where it will take place a maximum of 2 war and everything will be ended .I remind you once again that I believe that everyone should strive for a common goal to extend the VERSION.If we rule combined in 1 family that will not happen.
7.I wanted to also take this opportunity to address the OB news reporters . From the supplied I see that the author of this article `` Donau Sixx. Name article is "Bad Blood - Lucchese's Pledge" I think `Donau` Sixx that this title is very bad from the simple facts: -in this way the family Luchesse sticks out so much, and will not support the simple spite, complex, maybe some family at war with Luchesse and it is also one of the reasons why the public would not have sounded so here ... -just as I am sure that the family Luchesse not need any kind of marketing, because they are many years in this game and most of the players had heard of them Because of these facts but largely you can notice in the comments sentences like "Luchesse Admin family" "Luchesse trying to get out of upcoming war" etc etc ...
And all this is not abouth Luchesse,it is abouth players of Omerta Because of this `` Donau Sixx i think that article titlle should be changed. If we want to all the families and players to join here and support one goal, and that is to prolong versions. It also does not need to ignore the family Luchesse first one made up on the subject and take the initiative.
8.To emphasize once again that I am very happy to be finally happening drastic changes within the games and that these changes will be better for the players. The goal of extend version should be primaryto us all. To stop us from throwing our money every month. That our players / Members feel the spirit of the game, and stopped to get tired in the short version, to give them the motivation and desire to play and to Omerta as games finally came to life .To this Kurosawa gives its full support and also wants to rest family join it, to jointly make better things for players and the game. WE WANT the long version.
Kurosawa family.
Regardless of that, Lucchese is calling out other top families to limit their blood dealings in order to promote a more diverse game with a multitude of different sides. Families should also be encouraged to list their bloods on their fam page again as it was in the past.
We at OB news wanted to know how other families and players feel about this? Are you in?
Of course we realise there is no way to police such a concept, however after some discussion around the OB table we propose a rating system, similar to scores of war, designed to shine a light on those families, whose toxic game play & blooding is proving detrimental to the game.
Here's how it works.
For example;
Fams #1 - #3 = 4 points
Fams #4 - #7 = 3 points
Fams #8 - #11 = 2 points
Fams #11 - #20 = 1 point
Fams #20+ = 0.5 points
For example if I am a top 3 family and I blood family #5, Family #10 and Family #15 my bloodline is at 10 points, understand?
How many points is too many? In our opinion top 3 families should be rivals not friends.
Q) But what if my bloods grow and move up the rankings? That's not my fault right?
A) Of course not. If that happens then you've obviously played well and achieved success together which is the aim of the game. This is targeted at families who blood many big families with the intention of locking the game.
This is just an example to get people thinking. We are including a poll in this article in which we ask the player base to vote for values they consider acceptable.
At the end of the day Omerta is largely shaped by the player base. Admins can change the game but nothing will change unless the players are willing to change their attitudes. The bottom line is if you want to enjoy a fun, fair and competitive game again you will have to agree, as a COMMUNITY, to certain rules that allow versions to run longer and less one-sided.
Let us know what you think in comments below. If your family agrees with the sentiments of this article and want to put your name forward, like Lucchese, please contact an OB reporter in #News.
Gsbaba (Justice alliance top) Firstly, we are happy about the propose of the Lucchese. But to be honest, what about alliances? What about non-shooting deals, secret bloodings, pacts ? In our opinion, im sure when a war appear, for example, 4 fams joined which are bloods of each other and what about bloods of bloods? This attacking families number always reach 10 fams. So, my friends that means it will not effect to length of version. Other than this , If we all want a longer versions we must ask admins to remove that ks shit. It alienate people who are new in the game. We all know that lone families are getting targeted cuz of this shit ks. Additionaly , i will say sths about scripting too. People who are in firsts pages are abusing busting. In the past it was honorable work. We know admins cant do shit about scripting and we are suggesting that the rps which are gaining from busting should be removed.
Trza (Kurosawa top) 1.First of all I'm very pleased that for the first time in the history of Omerta players of this game are finally asking for something. Omerta as a game in some way has long been "extinct" in respect of all the players who play, a large number of players stopped playing and each version of the game are deacrising .Desile are the sorts of things were introduced henchmen, were various cheats starting from scripts, scratch / scratch to the fact that one version was reset in less than a month, because some acount had 200 helte and more.
2.I believe that together, our players who really play Omerta, which powers our games, our of which depends on the game, that we can and must do something to make the player finally feel the spirit of the game.
3.When I saw the proposal Luchesse family was pleasantly surprised simply because I saw it as a first step, that is the first attempt to change something. Proposal from family Luchesse is very good , try to extand the version . It is one of the most important reasons why my family supported this. Limiting the Bloods minimum number is not too bad suggestion, but we all know that it is impossible to achieve this , no one will be able to to influence that gave one family to have 4 or 10 Bloods. Bloods it's a free choice and free will , but the goal is to extend the version is something primary , which would be all of us players were to benefit . I’m personally sick of it that one version is just so much to all ranking to bruglione and ends after 2 to 3 wars , especially now that is made a "new system " Omerta , where now the attached, and we can notice that the manual acount means more the lackey acount also again have Capodecine. To became Capodecina in caporegime there must be a certain number Worth regime . As we still say that they need active players to capo each individual has to lobby for their caporegim , It must attract the game new players , good players and not dupe acounts , because now with the new system, 5 manuel active players in caporegim worth a lot more than 20 empty dups.
4.I have also read a proposal from Gsbaba where they are to lift the killing skills to prolonged version, I think it also is not bad proposal, however, want to attach myself on this proposal. I think it would be better to reduce the criterion killing skill, for one shooting to give 0.5% or even 1% , so it would be reduced ks farm because it would be necessary to kill some 20 acc to have 20% KS, which is very difficult and requires a lot of time, money and bullets. Also in this way it would be wars for a longer period of time where we all get time and also returns to a common purpose, to prolong version.5.There is a problem within the current games such as cities. All focus is on one city Detroit. In Detroit, the big money is, they are all fighting for the city while the other cities to remain in the shadows because they can not make good economic profit. I think that admins must urgently do something about the issue. My personal suggestion is to introduce increased RP in traveling . But there is some minimal rp when you travel to another city but that% RP is very small, even though she is smaller than a bust-out. I think that if the increased % rp per trip, thus players would become much more active, because everyone wants to have a strong acount, to other cities resurrected depending on the price of drugs and drink.And those who do not want to have a strong ACC can continue to sit in Detroit.
6.I also have to point out some things that happened in the last version. Last edition we have family that won Aeterna version and personally I want to congratulate them on that. But one thing I did not like tof Aeterna. Within this family played Righelli, vaffanculo, Yalta members, Luchesse members, Messina memebrs, venture (fidelitas) members etc ... I understand why so played by them, jump to Capodecine and caporezim, the joint forces had many strong family. Worthof family and Worth capo and thus were more stronger .But it was a very bad example to the other players, because it can happen this version to a dozen families unite in 2-3 family, what we all get then? Again the short version where it will take place a maximum of 2 war and everything will be ended .I remind you once again that I believe that everyone should strive for a common goal to extend the VERSION.If we rule combined in 1 family that will not happen.
7.I wanted to also take this opportunity to address the OB news reporters . From the supplied I see that the author of this article `` Donau Sixx. Name article is "Bad Blood - Lucchese's Pledge" I think `Donau` Sixx that this title is very bad from the simple facts: -in this way the family Luchesse sticks out so much, and will not support the simple spite, complex, maybe some family at war with Luchesse and it is also one of the reasons why the public would not have sounded so here ... -just as I am sure that the family Luchesse not need any kind of marketing, because they are many years in this game and most of the players had heard of them Because of these facts but largely you can notice in the comments sentences like "Luchesse Admin family" "Luchesse trying to get out of upcoming war" etc etc ...
And all this is not abouth Luchesse,it is abouth players of Omerta Because of this `` Donau Sixx i think that article titlle should be changed. If we want to all the families and players to join here and support one goal, and that is to prolong versions. It also does not need to ignore the family Luchesse first one made up on the subject and take the initiative.
8.To emphasize once again that I am very happy to be finally happening drastic changes within the games and that these changes will be better for the players. The goal of extend version should be primaryto us all. To stop us from throwing our money every month. That our players / Members feel the spirit of the game, and stopped to get tired in the short version, to give them the motivation and desire to play and to Omerta as games finally came to life .To this Kurosawa gives its full support and also wants to rest family join it, to jointly make better things for players and the game. WE WANT the long version.
Kurosawa family.
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Anonymous (01:05:55 - 12-01)
Anonymous (01:01:49 - 12-01)
anyways there is so many secret bloodships even if all fams agree on the idea.
Anonymous (00:53:30 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 00:30:34 on 12/01:
u are moron...blood is not game stuff..ppl fix blood system on irc understand it ? u cant block it..for example u put 4 bloods ok but who will know if u make secret deal ? u get it idiot ? and aeterna had 3 fams ..dont afraid to die that much hahaha maybe u afraid to turks will shoot you right? :D
Anonymous at 00:20:38 on 12/01:
just for your information aeterna wasn't a fusion of those 3 families. Yes they had a share of those families in their family but for example none of the aeterna tops was from the Fidel family.
Next to that the Aeterna top is completely different from the Lucchese top so your joke makes no sense as well. Last but not least: Lucchese decided to try and help this game by playing it more fair for everyone, what's the reason you'd hate that? Your current family already made a new alliance? Or are you afraid you can't add 13 sister families anymore? What is your problem?
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
just for your information aeterna wasn't a fusion of those 3 families. Yes they had a share of those families in their family but for example none of the aeterna tops was from the Fidel family.
Next to that the Aeterna top is completely different from the Lucchese top so your joke makes no sense as well. Last but not least: Lucchese decided to try and help this game by playing it more fair for everyone, what's the reason you'd hate that? Your current family already made a new alliance? Or are you afraid you can't add 13 sister families anymore? What is your problem?
u are moron...blood is not game stuff..ppl fix blood system on irc understand it ? u cant block it..for example u put 4 bloods ok but who will know if u make secret deal ? u get it idiot ? and aeterna had 3 fams ..dont afraid to die that much hahaha maybe u afraid to turks will shoot you right? :D
The way you type and your way of choosing words doesn't really show a lot of intellectual power thus you shouldn't call someone else an idiot or a moron. Everyone knows bloods are settled on IRC and everyone knows secret deals are possible. The difference is with some unwritten rules, you set a standard, you create norms and values to the way the game is supposed to be played.
When you do massblood, make 3 asone families and 3 asones, you will be spit out not just by your opponents but by the whole community. You'd loose respect and credibility and your win wouldn't be valued as a win but you'd be put on the hall of shame.
You'll probably not understand a word from what is said in this post, just press the reply button and call me a moron instead. :)
Nakketikker at 00:34:19 on 12/01:
why do players have to come up with these kind of ideas ? :)
why do players have to come up with these kind of ideas ? :)
Because if admins did it, people would do the opposite on purpose :)
Nakketikker (00:34:19 - 12-01)
why do players have to come up with these kind of ideas ? :)
Anonymous (00:30:34 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 00:20:38 on 12/01:
just for your information aeterna wasn't a fusion of those 3 families. Yes they had a share of those families in their family but for example none of the aeterna tops was from the Fidel family.
Next to that the Aeterna top is completely different from the Lucchese top so your joke makes no sense as well. Last but not least: Lucchese decided to try and help this game by playing it more fair for everyone, what's the reason you'd hate that? Your current family already made a new alliance? Or are you afraid you can't add 13 sister families anymore? What is your problem?
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
just for your information aeterna wasn't a fusion of those 3 families. Yes they had a share of those families in their family but for example none of the aeterna tops was from the Fidel family.
Next to that the Aeterna top is completely different from the Lucchese top so your joke makes no sense as well. Last but not least: Lucchese decided to try and help this game by playing it more fair for everyone, what's the reason you'd hate that? Your current family already made a new alliance? Or are you afraid you can't add 13 sister families anymore? What is your problem?
u are moron...blood is not game stuff..ppl fix blood system on irc understand it ? u cant block it..for example u put 4 bloods ok but who will know if u make secret deal ? u get it idiot ? and aeterna had 3 fams ..dont afraid to die that much hahaha maybe u afraid to turks will shoot you right? :D
RD (00:28:13 - 12-01)
Even tho i regard Lucchese attention on this matter and while i know the intention was good i respectfully disagree with this.
Even tho i would be willing to take less bloods, you get to kill the purpose of a mafia game, once you set the bar which would make the game less unpredictable cant go good. Massblooding is bad but it’s a part of the game and every action has a reaction I am of the opinion that a Mafia game should be treated like economy there should be no interference in it.
As for having just four bloods its not a bad idea and its an option that should be respected but in my humble opinion I think it should be done leading by example and not trying to micromanage a game that is implied that there is no rules. There is a very good version ahead of us I feel it , a different chemistry then in last ones. Lets not spoil it with being picky with what x or y fam is doing. Lets have fun and play
Even tho i would be willing to take less bloods, you get to kill the purpose of a mafia game, once you set the bar which would make the game less unpredictable cant go good. Massblooding is bad but it’s a part of the game and every action has a reaction I am of the opinion that a Mafia game should be treated like economy there should be no interference in it.
As for having just four bloods its not a bad idea and its an option that should be respected but in my humble opinion I think it should be done leading by example and not trying to micromanage a game that is implied that there is no rules. There is a very good version ahead of us I feel it , a different chemistry then in last ones. Lets not spoil it with being picky with what x or y fam is doing. Lets have fun and play
Anonymous (00:24:45 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 00:22:53 on 12/01:
And half Faffie play in Lucchese.
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
Yes, since Faffie isn't going up their members should just stay famless till Faffie goes back up again. Lame Faffie player base!
Anonymous (00:23:12 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
7 families would still be less than the average Turk family who often have 7 sisters + 7 more bloods + 4 asone families.
Anonymous (00:22:53 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
Anonymous (00:20:38 - 12-01)
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
just for your information aeterna wasn't a fusion of those 3 families. Yes they had a share of those families in their family but for example none of the aeterna tops was from the Fidel family.
Next to that the Aeterna top is completely different from the Lucchese top so your joke makes no sense as well. Last but not least: Lucchese decided to try and help this game by playing it more fair for everyone, what's the reason you'd hate that? Your current family already made a new alliance? Or are you afraid you can't add 13 sister families anymore? What is your problem?
Anonymous at 00:11:59 on 12/01:
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
Anonymous (00:11:59 - 12-01)
hahah its bs.. lemme see ... aeterna..they up last vers 3 fam in 1 fam ( righelli vaffan and fidel ) and they added 4 blood so total 7 xD wtf are they talk now ? wierd :DD
Montreal at 00:05:23 on 12/01:
I'd say blood more, everyone gets an even amount to blood so it really comes down to what choices you make, if you for example have a rank 11 and 12 family, be clever in your decision who may be the better blood. Even if a big family gains a lot of attention, if he doesn't blood as much as the rest does it would simply be stupid. The idea is to stop mass blooding, not to stop people from blooding. There should be no more teaming up, as every side should have equal strength in famworth if they follow the average total of bloods. It comes down to skill instead, and planning. No more gangbangs.
Johnx at 23:48:32 on 11/01:
I like the idea a lot, but what then if a big fam gains a lot attention (without having a giant bloodlist) and they see other fams, who are unrelated to eachother, suddenly start to get closer so they can take down the fam. You can't just expect the big fam to not try and do something for their own survival since it is others who are teaming up against them.
As i said i like, even love this idea, but it would require a really big change in thoughts of tops. They need to start thinking that you don't have to be the bigger side, to win a war, but the better organized, ofc it would also need a KA that supports this (which i do believe this current KA does).
I hope lots of other fams will support this, sadly i won't be around to see if the change happens.
Good luck and nice initiative Lucchese :)
I like the idea a lot, but what then if a big fam gains a lot attention (without having a giant bloodlist) and they see other fams, who are unrelated to eachother, suddenly start to get closer so they can take down the fam. You can't just expect the big fam to not try and do something for their own survival since it is others who are teaming up against them.
As i said i like, even love this idea, but it would require a really big change in thoughts of tops. They need to start thinking that you don't have to be the bigger side, to win a war, but the better organized, ofc it would also need a KA that supports this (which i do believe this current KA does).
I hope lots of other fams will support this, sadly i won't be around to see if the change happens.
Good luck and nice initiative Lucchese :)
I'd say blood more, everyone gets an even amount to blood so it really comes down to what choices you make, if you for example have a rank 11 and 12 family, be clever in your decision who may be the better blood. Even if a big family gains a lot of attention, if he doesn't blood as much as the rest does it would simply be stupid. The idea is to stop mass blooding, not to stop people from blooding. There should be no more teaming up, as every side should have equal strength in famworth if they follow the average total of bloods. It comes down to skill instead, and planning. No more gangbangs.
Italien- at 00:02:39 on 12/01:
(y)
I think there has to be some room to make adjustments with this system. Like some fams will go up in rank now and then, and that wouldnt mean you deblood em. Just like if all your bloods die and you are alone, I think its fair to say that you can grab some new ones if you still live.
Someone mentioned belove that perhaps the placements should be chosen after x days, and still it should allow for some points over/under without people screaming MASSBLOODING.
The essence should imo be that we severly limit the blood amounts shown in previous versions, with a guiding system to make it easier and more fair for everyone.
H`HMD at 23:51:42 on 11/01:
I knew you guys were going to make a statement, and think it could have a positive influence on the game if other families stick to it as well. My family, for example, would be willing to follow that example. I just forgot to ask something about your bloods maximum. Will you replace a family after they die? Because from what I saw last version, after one or two big wars the amount of active families is reduced significantly. Adding new bloods to get to the maximum amount of 4 could still kinda lock a version in that stage.
Italien- at 23:36:46 on 11/01:
Lucchese is at least willing to give this a shot, which other tops will join us and say the same for the sake of a better game? :)
Lucchese is at least willing to give this a shot, which other tops will join us and say the same for the sake of a better game? :)
I knew you guys were going to make a statement, and think it could have a positive influence on the game if other families stick to it as well. My family, for example, would be willing to follow that example. I just forgot to ask something about your bloods maximum. Will you replace a family after they die? Because from what I saw last version, after one or two big wars the amount of active families is reduced significantly. Adding new bloods to get to the maximum amount of 4 could still kinda lock a version in that stage.
(y)
I think there has to be some room to make adjustments with this system. Like some fams will go up in rank now and then, and that wouldnt mean you deblood em. Just like if all your bloods die and you are alone, I think its fair to say that you can grab some new ones if you still live.
Someone mentioned belove that perhaps the placements should be chosen after x days, and still it should allow for some points over/under without people screaming MASSBLOODING.
The essence should imo be that we severly limit the blood amounts shown in previous versions, with a guiding system to make it easier and more fair for everyone.
Well the main point is top fams cant blood each other in this system. If they do theyl have alot of points straight away. Thats the point - Big fams are meant to compete, not get together, lock up the game, and roflstomp everyone. Thats lame and boring. Also if all your bloods are dying shouldn't you be like helping them and either surviving or dying with em? But ye as a concept there should be quite a bit of leeway. It's more of a guideline than a set thing.
Johnx at 23:48:32 on 11/01:
I like the idea a lot, but what then if a big fam gains a lot attention (without having a giant bloodlist) and they see other fams, who are unrelated to eachother, suddenly start to get closer so they can take down the fam. You can't just expect the big fam to not try and do something for their own survival since it is others who are teaming up against them.
As i said i like, even love this idea, but it would require a really big change in thoughts of tops. They need to start thinking that you don't have to be the bigger side, to win a war, but the better organized, ofc it would also need a KA that supports this (which i do believe this current KA does).
I hope lots of other fams will support this, sadly i won't be around to see if the change happens.
Good luck and nice initiative Lucchese :)
I like the idea a lot, but what then if a big fam gains a lot attention (without having a giant bloodlist) and they see other fams, who are unrelated to eachother, suddenly start to get closer so they can take down the fam. You can't just expect the big fam to not try and do something for their own survival since it is others who are teaming up against them.
As i said i like, even love this idea, but it would require a really big change in thoughts of tops. They need to start thinking that you don't have to be the bigger side, to win a war, but the better organized, ofc it would also need a KA that supports this (which i do believe this current KA does).
I hope lots of other fams will support this, sadly i won't be around to see if the change happens.
Good luck and nice initiative Lucchese :)
I'd say blood more, everyone gets an even amount to blood so it really comes down to what choices you make, if you for example have a rank 11 and 12 family, be clever in your decision who may be the better blood. Even if a big family gains a lot of attention, if he doesn't blood as much as the rest does it would simply be stupid. The idea is to stop mass blooding, not to stop people from blooding. There should be no more teaming up, as every side should have equal strength in famworth if they follow the average total of bloods. It comes down to skill instead, and planning. No more gangbangs.
H`HMD at 23:51:42 on 11/01:
I knew you guys were going to make a statement, and think it could have a positive influence on the game if other families stick to it as well. My family, for example, would be willing to follow that example. I just forgot to ask something about your bloods maximum. Will you replace a family after they die? Because from what I saw last version, after one or two big wars the amount of active families is reduced significantly. Adding new bloods to get to the maximum amount of 4 could still kinda lock a version in that stage.
Italien- at 23:36:46 on 11/01:
Lucchese is at least willing to give this a shot, which other tops will join us and say the same for the sake of a better game? :)
Lucchese is at least willing to give this a shot, which other tops will join us and say the same for the sake of a better game? :)
I knew you guys were going to make a statement, and think it could have a positive influence on the game if other families stick to it as well. My family, for example, would be willing to follow that example. I just forgot to ask something about your bloods maximum. Will you replace a family after they die? Because from what I saw last version, after one or two big wars the amount of active families is reduced significantly. Adding new bloods to get to the maximum amount of 4 could still kinda lock a version in that stage.
(y)
I think there has to be some room to make adjustments with this system. Like some fams will go up in rank now and then, and that wouldnt mean you deblood em. Just like if all your bloods die and you are alone, I think its fair to say that you can grab some new ones if you still live.
Someone mentioned belove that perhaps the placements should be chosen after x days, and still it should allow for some points over/under without people screaming MASSBLOODING.
The essence should imo be that we severly limit the blood amounts shown in previous versions, with a guiding system to make it easier and more fair for everyone.
Anonymous (00:02:02 - 12-01)
zaba at 23:55:53 on 11/01:
and lucchese have 50 members from Aeterna...
Italien- at 23:53:35 on 11/01:
To clarify: Lucchese have 9 active/semi-active tops, out of which 1 was top in Aeterna last version.
Anonymous at 23:45:11 on 11/01:
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea you guys came up with. Just ironic to see that after a version where some of Lucchese's tops had a major influence in Aeterna.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea you guys came up with. Just ironic to see that after a version where some of Lucchese's tops had a major influence in Aeterna.
To clarify: Lucchese have 9 active/semi-active tops, out of which 1 was top in Aeterna last version.
and lucchese have 50 members from Aeterna...
I do think you misunderstand the fact Aeterna did end the version with only 2 other families and did try not to pact. It was a first step away from ending versions with 15 families and it it time to make another step. It would've been ignorant to make 1 big step, people tried and people failed that. Change goes step by step. This is a good step from Lucchese.
zaba at 23:55:53 on 11/01:
and lucchese have 50 members from Aeterna...
Italien- at 23:53:35 on 11/01:
To clarify: Lucchese have 9 active/semi-active tops, out of which 1 was top in Aeterna last version.
Anonymous at 23:45:11 on 11/01:
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea you guys came up with. Just ironic to see that after a version where some of Lucchese's tops had a major influence in Aeterna.
Don't get me wrong, I like the idea you guys came up with. Just ironic to see that after a version where some of Lucchese's tops had a major influence in Aeterna.
To clarify: Lucchese have 9 active/semi-active tops, out of which 1 was top in Aeterna last version.
and lucchese have 50 members from Aeterna...
anyways there is so many secret bloodships even if all fams agree on the idea.