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31-08 How to lose friends and alienate people
Author: sbanks
Last updated: 1248d 5h 24m 13s ago by Smul
Comments: 114
Views: 6,891
Votes: 1 (1 average)
Version: 4.1
Involved families: Andalusia, Capitalis, Capulla, Elite, Faffie, Gambino, Koninkrijk
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Andalusia + Capitalis + Capulla + Elite ↔ Faffie
Gambino + Koninkrijk jumped in for Faffie

Capitalis was a merger of Santuario & Tempestuoso (also some Laonda rerankers)
statistics
War started on: 23:02:01 30-08-2013 War ended on: 18:57:01 31-08-2013
Bullet difference: -18,800,895 War duration: 19h 55m
Money difference: -$876,703,800 Players died: 143




deaths
Dead Families:
[Capulla] Family down on 18:54 31-08
[Capitalis] Family down on 13:38 31-08
Deaths per family:
Sw As LC Ch Br CD GF Points
Andalusia | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 1 | brug: 4 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 65
Capitalis | swin: 3 | assa: 2 | lc: 3 | chief: 8 | brug: 18 | cd: 3 | gf: 1 | points: 423
Capulla | swin: 2 | assa: 3 | lc: 6 | chief: 7 | brug: 3 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 159
Elite | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 3 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 44
Faffie | swin: 6 | assa: 5 | lc: 10 | chief: 5 | brug: 8 | cd: 1 | gf: 0 | points: 246
Gambino | swin: 1 | assa: 1 | lc: 1 | chief: 0 | brug: 0 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 11
Koninkrijk | swin: 0 | assa: 0 | lc: 0 | chief: 0 | brug: 1 | cd: 0 | gf: 0 | points: 13
Total | swin: 12 | assa: 11 | lc: 22 | chief: 21 | brug: 37 | cd: 5 | gf: 1 | points: 961
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sbanks Guatemala (15:27:06 - 02-09)
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for what i know at the moment is.
.com will reset when only 5 fams are left (.com will be the same as last version, no 1on1 concept, same spots, KA BUT with bj & pb & anti dupe tool)

.dm will (prolly) have the 1on1 concept

we are getting way off topic for this war, so im closing the article.
use the general comments section if you want to reply/questions/something related to this post
Anonymous (15:13:57 - 02-09)
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gode at 15:03:53 on 02/09:
Ber at 14:37:26 on 02/09:i were there and told u system wont work.

the only people who were talking about this idea were the one who died in early war. And dont tell me in ruining this game. Ask some admins or helpers about my name. The only reason those people help u to get a better situation for them next version. 1 on 1 is stupid. Were do u got friends bloods for? To watch eachother go down 1at te time. Get real.

and enough people know me.

Ber

- remove tiredness
- slower ranking speed
- more expensive bullets or less money income overall
- remove lackey credit limit
- introduce lowrank KS farming or KS not resetted after you die

my ideas for longer versions with rerankers

i don't believe they can implement 1v1 war concept, i'm on same side with Ber about this
its easy to manipulate with fake wars

if they can achieve it like raid concept? well it will be awesome, raid/spots concept is very very good designed.
AS A SIDE NOTE, PLS TEST THIS 1V1 CONCEPT IN .DM VERSION, WHEN IT IS THE TIME.
it will be manipulated and abused in first 1-2 versions, let this happen in .dm

- remove tiredness (agreed, tiredness was a stupid idea to begin with. The idea to make manuals equal to lackeys or scripts, no I won't call it retarded...(
- slower ranking speed (kinda, but won't that just delay the 3 wars/gangbangs that basically decided the version, longer version yes, definately. More interesting, I fail to see that)
- more expensive bullets or less money income overall (yes, we can agree on that)
- remove lackey credit limit (yes, stupid idea to implement it in first place)
- introduce lowrank KS farming or KS not resetted after you die (the first suggestion is a horrible idea in my book. I will tell you what happens then. More dupes getting set up, just to get shot for KS, we have seen that before. The second suggestion, about not resetting it, yes, that looks like a more reasonable approach).
Saros`away Netherlands (15:12:29 - 02-09)
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Ber at 14:37:26 on 02/09:
sbanks at 11:58:40 on 02/09:
Myrddin at 09:10:03 on 02/09:
Ber at 14:21:37 on 01/09:
Saros`away at 11:48:35 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 10:00:29 on 01/09:
this new omerta you speak of and new war systems etc, where can i read this information for myself?

The entire concept will be put here on OB soon(ish) for evaluation. Stuff that Ber spoke about has been thought of ages ago, but it's easier too just bitch about it ofcourse.
Lol been here since the early 2.0 version.

Nothing changed about bloods or pacts. Nothing will change in a other version.

Fams that did good a version will get shot by the rest in the new version.
Then u call it gangbanging again. Then next 2~3 days later 6 fams called an alliance will kill the biggest att fam.

The smaller fams that also shot will join the alliance and form a pact.

The bloodweb is compleet with the remaining fams.

So satoshi or however your name is. I can and may bitch around cause ive seen it all over and over.

The admins should inform us about stuff being tested and why dont let everyone join that beta vers?

Ber

+1

if you don't know shit, don't talk shit.
we organised a feedback moment some weeks ago where everyone could speak up.
did we see you there? no? yes?
if so.. why didn't you participate in this idea, or why didnt u trash talk it down?
everyone was invited, about 10 / 15 people worked out this 1on1 idea.
it not even near to testing. so again.. if you dont know shit, dont bother.. ok?

Saros was one who helped with the 1on1 concept, so he knows what he is talking about.

and please .. don't act all cool with "satoshi" or whatever your name is.. i mean.. who the fuck are you to judge about other people and their ideas?

people like you Ber, ruin this game/community.
i were there and told u system wont work.
the only people who were talking about this idea were the one who died in early war. And dont tell me in ruining this game. Ask some admins or helpers about my name. The only reason those people help u to get a better situation for them next version. 1 on 1 is stupid. Were do u got friends bloods for? To watch eachother go down 1at te time. Get real.

and enough people know me.

Ber
Are you mentally challenged or something? Nobody gives two flying fucks who you are.

Furthermore, you weren't there when the actual concept was being worked out, so yet again, don't talk shit when you have no clue what it's exactly about.

The entire point of the concept is that you take charge of your own damn family for once and stop trash fams from just blindly grouping up and following the bigger ones. I'm sure that is something you would dislike, considering you are a Gambino member and all, but perhaps it's time to re-evaluate your own playstyle when it does get changed.

Keeping the current system is downright unrealistic considering the game is hanging on it's last tread and if something doesn't change fast, Brando might aswell just close it down. I for one have nothing to gain from this personally, yes my fam died first this version, yet we won the one before it. Same counts for everyone else involved who have their own long history around here and don't do it to have some kind of 'advantage' next versions.
gode Turkey (15:03:53 - 02-09)
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Ber at 14:37:26 on 02/09:i were there and told u system wont work.

the only people who were talking about this idea were the one who died in early war. And dont tell me in ruining this game. Ask some admins or helpers about my name. The only reason those people help u to get a better situation for them next version. 1 on 1 is stupid. Were do u got friends bloods for? To watch eachother go down 1at te time. Get real.

and enough people know me.

Ber

- remove tiredness
- slower ranking speed
- more expensive bullets or less money income overall
- remove lackey credit limit
- introduce lowrank KS farming or KS not resetted after you die

my ideas for longer versions with rerankers

i don't believe they can implement 1v1 war concept, i'm on same side with Ber about this
its easy to manipulate with fake wars

if they can achieve it like raid concept? well it will be awesome, raid/spots concept is very very good designed.
AS A SIDE NOTE, PLS TEST THIS 1V1 CONCEPT IN .DM VERSION, WHEN IT IS THE TIME.
it will be manipulated and abused in first 1-2 versions, let this happen in .dm
Anonymous (14:56:36 - 02-09)
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Ber at 14:37:26 on 02/09:
i were there and told u system wont work.

the only people who were talking about this idea were the one who died in early war. And dont tell me in ruining this game. Ask some admins or helpers about my name. The only reason those people help u to get a better situation for them next version. 1 on 1 is stupid. Were do u got friends bloods for? To watch eachother go down 1at te time. Get real.

and enough people know me.

Ber

Sponsor your bloods financially?
Ber (14:37:26 - 02-09)
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sbanks at 11:58:40 on 02/09:
Myrddin at 09:10:03 on 02/09:
Ber at 14:21:37 on 01/09:
Saros`away at 11:48:35 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 10:00:29 on 01/09:
this new omerta you speak of and new war systems etc, where can i read this information for myself?

The entire concept will be put here on OB soon(ish) for evaluation. Stuff that Ber spoke about has been thought of ages ago, but it's easier too just bitch about it ofcourse.
Lol been here since the early 2.0 version.

Nothing changed about bloods or pacts. Nothing will change in a other version.

Fams that did good a version will get shot by the rest in the new version.
Then u call it gangbanging again. Then next 2~3 days later 6 fams called an alliance will kill the biggest att fam.

The smaller fams that also shot will join the alliance and form a pact.

The bloodweb is compleet with the remaining fams.

So satoshi or however your name is. I can and may bitch around cause ive seen it all over and over.

The admins should inform us about stuff being tested and why dont let everyone join that beta vers?

Ber

+1

if you don't know shit, don't talk shit.
we organised a feedback moment some weeks ago where everyone could speak up.
did we see you there? no? yes?
if so.. why didn't you participate in this idea, or why didnt u trash talk it down?
everyone was invited, about 10 / 15 people worked out this 1on1 idea.
it not even near to testing. so again.. if you dont know shit, dont bother.. ok?

Saros was one who helped with the 1on1 concept, so he knows what he is talking about.

and please .. don't act all cool with "satoshi" or whatever your name is.. i mean.. who the fuck are you to judge about other people and their ideas?

people like you Ber, ruin this game/community.
i were there and told u system wont work.
the only people who were talking about this idea were the one who died in early war. And dont tell me in ruining this game. Ask some admins or helpers about my name. The only reason those people help u to get a better situation for them next version. 1 on 1 is stupid. Were do u got friends bloods for? To watch eachother go down 1at te time. Get real.

and enough people know me.

Ber
Anonymous (13:57:56 - 02-09)
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Kris at 05:34:25 on 02/09:
<~Amor|Out> !hop del fuerte
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed Fuerte from the HOP list.
* K`Afk ([email protected]) has joined #tempestuoso
<~Amor|Out> !hop del swatz
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed Swatz from the HOP list.
* FamBot sets mode: +v K`Afk
<~Amor|Out> !hop del perseus
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed perseus from the HOP list.


Rage :D

LOL rage would have been akick or at least kickban for gambino tops.
This is just sheer disappointment and basically saying, We don't want to be blooded with you any longer.
Anonymous (13:10:35 - 02-09)
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Anonymous at 13:01:37 on 02/09:
Tbh, ber, I think saros is a far more known personality than you are. You have a lot of misplaced arrogance and most of your posts make absolutely no sense, probably not the brightest light around here.

TBH, picking fights is not the right thing eitherway. But people don't realise that bitching and the following response points to more bitching and more response.
I sometimes doubt the people here are of an suited age. Instead of open discussions and objectivity, people are picking fights with attacking others personally.
So the discussion goes from objective to personal and that is never ever right.
Anonymous (13:01:37 - 02-09)
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Tbh, ber, I think saros is a far more known personality than you are. You have a lot of misplaced arrogance and most of your posts make absolutely no sense, probably not the brightest light around here.

sbanks Guatemala (11:58:40 - 02-09)
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Myrddin at 09:10:03 on 02/09:
Ber at 14:21:37 on 01/09:
Saros`away at 11:48:35 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 10:00:29 on 01/09:
this new omerta you speak of and new war systems etc, where can i read this information for myself?

The entire concept will be put here on OB soon(ish) for evaluation. Stuff that Ber spoke about has been thought of ages ago, but it's easier too just bitch about it ofcourse.
Lol been here since the early 2.0 version.

Nothing changed about bloods or pacts. Nothing will change in a other version.

Fams that did good a version will get shot by the rest in the new version.
Then u call it gangbanging again. Then next 2~3 days later 6 fams called an alliance will kill the biggest att fam.

The smaller fams that also shot will join the alliance and form a pact.

The bloodweb is compleet with the remaining fams.

So satoshi or however your name is. I can and may bitch around cause ive seen it all over and over.

The admins should inform us about stuff being tested and why dont let everyone join that beta vers?

Ber

+1

if you don't know shit, don't talk shit.
we organised a feedback moment some weeks ago where everyone could speak up.
did we see you there? no? yes?
if so.. why didn't you participate in this idea, or why didnt u trash talk it down?
everyone was invited, about 10 / 15 people worked out this 1on1 idea.
it not even near to testing. so again.. if you dont know shit, dont bother.. ok?

Saros was one who helped with the 1on1 concept, so he knows what he is talking about.

and please .. don't act all cool with "satoshi" or whatever your name is.. i mean.. who the fuck are you to judge about other people and their ideas?

people like you Ber, ruin this game/community.
Myrddin (09:10:03 - 02-09)
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Ber at 14:21:37 on 01/09:
Saros`away at 11:48:35 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 10:00:29 on 01/09:
this new omerta you speak of and new war systems etc, where can i read this information for myself?

The entire concept will be put here on OB soon(ish) for evaluation. Stuff that Ber spoke about has been thought of ages ago, but it's easier too just bitch about it ofcourse.
Lol been here since the early 2.0 version.

Nothing changed about bloods or pacts. Nothing will change in a other version.

Fams that did good a version will get shot by the rest in the new version.
Then u call it gangbanging again. Then next 2~3 days later 6 fams called an alliance will kill the biggest att fam.

The smaller fams that also shot will join the alliance and form a pact.

The bloodweb is compleet with the remaining fams.

So satoshi or however your name is. I can and may bitch around cause ive seen it all over and over.

The admins should inform us about stuff being tested and why dont let everyone join that beta vers?

Ber

+1
Rosegarden Denmark (08:11:17 - 02-09)
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Anonymous at 05:16:40 on 02/09:
Rosegarden at 13:45:06 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 13:11:44 on 01/09:
gambino was a shit fam, and will be a shit fam. only newbies like rose can believe their shit

i have been to told that i can not use the excuse "im a noob" anymore. So lets just go with "Im less intelligent than most people in this game" insted, so forgive me for not understanding, what "shit" is it i believe in?

they backed out from a war against the fams who shot you
they shot you to close the version
you still say "i will not give up gambino"
i dont wanna add other facts thats enough

im not part of capi, never have been, so no they did not shot me. That would also be the reason why i dont have an opinion about that war.
Im not telling you how you should feel about anything here, the only reason i started to say anything in here, was because, If ppl have to talk shit about anybody, they should atleast get the facts right :-)
Anon (05:43:08 - 02-09)
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Amorphis at 04:48:18 on 02/09:
This is sad.. I see that some tops of Gambino saying we were close to beign bloods.. BS! I myself made a meme about becoming blood and gave Perseus in Temp and Gambino blood room.. And reply was "I think we will" then i heard from ffranky that Gambino accepted the blood offer..

I remember telling Jaskich that "ıf Gambino shoots Tempestuoso or any fam they are in, i'll quit the game".. Guess its time to keep promises..

You cant merge into a new fam and expect to keep all your previous bloodrelations. Next vers perhaps Faffie and Levi should merge whahaha, no fams will be able to shoot @ em since they have such a diff set of connections.
Amorphis Cyprus (05:38:34 - 02-09)
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Kris at 05:34:25 on 02/09:
<~Amor|Out> !hop del fuerte
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed Fuerte from the HOP list.
* K`Afk ([email protected]) has joined #tempestuoso
<~Amor|Out> !hop del swatz
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed Swatz from the HOP list.
* FamBot sets mode: +v K`Afk
<~Amor|Out> !hop del perseus
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed perseus from the HOP list.


Rage :D


Nope.. It's what needs to be done..
If they dont see us as bloods they dont deserve to be there..
Kris United States (05:34:25 - 02-09)
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<~Amor|Out> !hop del fuerte
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed Fuerte from the HOP list.
* K`Afk ([email protected]) has joined #tempestuoso
<~Amor|Out> !hop del swatz
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed Swatz from the HOP list.
* FamBot sets mode: +v K`Afk
<~Amor|Out> !hop del perseus
-ChanServ:#tempestuoso- Amor|Out (Amorphis) removed perseus from the HOP list.


Rage :D
Anonymous (05:16:40 - 02-09)
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Rosegarden at 13:45:06 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 13:11:44 on 01/09:
gambino was a shit fam, and will be a shit fam. only newbies like rose can believe their shit

i have been to told that i can not use the excuse "im a noob" anymore. So lets just go with "Im less intelligent than most people in this game" insted, so forgive me for not understanding, what "shit" is it i believe in?

they backed out from a war against the fams who shot you
they shot you to close the version
you still say "i will not give up gambino"
i dont wanna add other facts thats enough
Amorphis Cyprus (04:48:18 - 02-09)
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This is sad.. I see that some tops of Gambino saying we were close to beign bloods.. BS! I myself made a meme about becoming blood and gave Perseus in Temp and Gambino blood room.. And reply was "I think we will" then i heard from ffranky that Gambino accepted the blood offer..

I remember telling Jaskich that "ıf Gambino shoots Tempestuoso or any fam they are in, i'll quit the game".. Guess its time to keep promises..
Ber (14:21:37 - 01-09)
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Saros`away at 11:48:35 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 10:00:29 on 01/09:
this new omerta you speak of and new war systems etc, where can i read this information for myself?

The entire concept will be put here on OB soon(ish) for evaluation. Stuff that Ber spoke about has been thought of ages ago, but it's easier too just bitch about it ofcourse.
Lol been here since the early 2.0 version.

Nothing changed about bloods or pacts. Nothing will change in a other version.

Fams that did good a version will get shot by the rest in the new version.
Then u call it gangbanging again. Then next 2~3 days later 6 fams called an alliance will kill the biggest att fam.

The smaller fams that also shot will join the alliance and form a pact.

The bloodweb is compleet with the remaining fams.

So satoshi or however your name is. I can and may bitch around cause ive seen it all over and over.

The admins should inform us about stuff being tested and why dont let everyone join that beta vers?

Ber
Saros`away Netherlands (14:07:06 - 01-09)
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Ber at 13:09:07 on 01/09:
Saros`away at 11:48:35 on 01/09:
Anonymous at 10:00:29 on 01/09:
this new omerta you speak of and new war systems etc, where can i read this information for myself?

The entire concept will be put here on OB soon(ish) for evaluation. Stuff that Ber spoke about has been thought of ages ago, but it's easier too just bitch about it ofcourse.
Lol been here since the early 2.0 version.

Nothing changed about bloods or pacts. Nothing will change in a other version.

Fams that did good a version will get shot by the rest in the new version.
Then u call it gangbanging again. Then next 2~3 days later 6 fams called an alliance will kill the biggest att fam.

The smaller fams that also shot will join the alliance and form a pact.

The bloodweb is compleet with the remaining fams.

So satoshi or however your name is. I can and may bitch around cause ive seen it all over and over.

The admins should inform us about stuff being tested and why dont let everyone join that beta vers?

Ber

That you have played since 2.0 (as do I btw) has nothing to do with the fact that you haven't read or know what's in the new concept, so stop being ignorant and keep your dense opinions to yourself till you have actually, you know, read it.

And to the Anon below, 'Best backstabber' doesn't sound quite catchy enough, so I'll pass.
Rosegarden Denmark (13:45:06 - 01-09)
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Anonymous at 13:11:44 on 01/09:
gambino was a shit fam, and will be a shit fam. only newbies like rose can believe their shit

i have been to told that i can not use the excuse "im a noob" anymore. So lets just go with "Im less intelligent than most people in this game" insted, so forgive me for not understanding, what "shit" is it i believe in?